Celani Demonstrates Excess Heat from Nickel Hydrogen Reactor at NIWeek [New Photo]

Francesco Celani of the Italian National Institute of Nuclear Physics has been presenting a Nickel-Hydrogen based LENR reactor at the National Instruments NIWeek in Austin Texas. New Energy Times today reported on Celani’s process which involves preloading a nickel wire with hydrogen for up to three days. Celani brought a preloaded wire to the NIWeek convention center to demonstrate his device.

Austin-based LENR researcher told New Energy times: “As soon as we applied the electrical power to the internal nichrome-wire heater (48 Watts DC), we began to see excess heat. There was no incubation period. Celani has eight thermocouples in the reactor, and he measured between 58 and 68 Watts heat output. So, conservatively, it produced an average of 10 Watts of excess heat continuously from the time we started, at 1 p.m., until we left, at 7 p.m. – for six hours.”

Daniele Passerini of 22passi.blogspot.com spoke today with Celani who said that the reactor had been running continuously for over 55 hours and that National Instruments measuring tools showed that the peak of excess heat was 22W with a stable excess heat measurement of 14W.

A detailed report of Celani’s reactor and excess heat measurements  can be found here.

  • Ivan Mohorovicic

    Nice photo! Have you got more?

    • admin

      No, this is the only one at the moment, I will see if I can get more.

  • Any qualitative or quantitative observation/comment re. mutation reported by Celani during the formal presentation or in informal discussions?

    • Ged

      Wish we had someone there with a camera to document that and all the other LENR posters/presentations…

      • Surely NI would have a couple of video reporters there to record the presentations? But there again maybe not.

    • If you mean transmutation, sadly no, AFAIK. It would be an obvious thing to do – keep a bit of unused but treated wire and do a comparative analysis with a well-used piece. Perhaps that’s in hand.

      • Yes, I meant transmutation,Peter.

    • GreenWin

      Krish, I note that NI LabVIEW can control a SEM but NI itself does not sell an SEM product. That would be helpful to verify transmutation. But keep in mind I have linked to a student web site at Portland State College where regular cold fusion experiments result in both excess heat (<1.0W) AND transmuted catalyst.

      It is a well documented observation in LENR.

      • How ’bout a mass spectrometer? Surely they make those?

  • SH

    There might just be another LENR demo today at NIweek…. In the KW range.

    Stay tuned.

    • artefact

      Brillouin or Defkalion? 🙂

      • Pachu

        DGT i bet.

  • georgehants

    While denying Cold Fusion they are already planning where to spend billions of dollars to keep their jobs safe.
    ——
    Home Nanotechnology Physics Space & Earth Electronics Technology Chemistry Biology Medicine & Health Other Sciences General Physics Condensed Matter Optics & Photonics Superconductivity Plasma Physics Soft Matter Quantum Physics Physics group looks ahead past LHC to LEP3 August 8, 2012 by Bob Yirka report LHC Enlarge (Phys.org) — A group of physicists is looking beyond the usefulness of the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) to a new collider that would sit in the tunnel still occupied by the LHC, to an updated version of what was there before, the Large Electron-Positron Collider (LEP). The new one would be called, aptly enough, LEP3. The group, from the UK, Russia, Japan, Switzerland and the US, say the collider would be used to study the Higgs boson.
    Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2012-08-physics-group-lhc-lep3.html#jCp

    • GreenWin

      george, one of the fortunate outcomes of a new era in physics/science is de-mythology of old fiefdoms. How much better to apply the billions earmarked for LEP3 to public education about the “atom unexplored.” We will of course need research into the new physics – but the public needs to un-learn some old science in order to make way for funding the new.

  • Van den Bogaert Joannes

    What has been absorbed (H) endothermally in nickel will be desorbed exothermally
    (releasing heat) ?

    • My understanding is that it is the other way around – gas loading is marginally exothermic, while unloading is equally endothermic. I may be wrong, but in either case the amounts of heat involved are insignificant compared with the anomalous heat produced.

    • Ged

      We’re talking continuous watt production for over days. And as Peter points out, loading is very slightly exothermic and degassing a metal is similarly in magnitude endothermic, so it’s actually backwards, and the device should be gobbling up energy if it was simply degassing.

  • paulc

    A champagne toast to all, Welcome to the new World of Cold Fusion !!

    • dragonX

      Sorry, but your enthusiastic outburst looks more like Bush “Mission Accomplished” meme.

      Let’s save the champagne until Rossi/Defkalion/Brillouin (or others) release a product on the market. Even then, it is still premature to open the champagne, as we saw in the case of General Motors EV1, when after release in 96′-99′ they redraw them, never to be heard again (so TPTB are powerful enough to do even that).

      I hope that some rather heroic figure will spearhead with a product release outside US and even Europe, so it could force TPTB to go with the cold fusion wave rather than fight against it.

      • georgehants

        dragon X, what right have you to criticise somebody for celebrating an advance in Cold Fusion.
        You save your champagne for what you like.
        Please learn some basic manners.

        • dragonX

          The right is basically based on the boy who cried wolf story. Why do you think Cold Fusion will benefit from false assessment regarding success?
          If you cheer so many times for the “NEW WORLD OF COLD FUSION” and it is a false assessment every time you do that, people will not pay any attention to you anymore and you will be celebrating alone everything.
          Again georgehants, your overly optimistic approach gives no real support to the LENR field, but it works rather against it.

          So the question remains, who is really working for a healthy cold fusion environment here? The one that ask for real proof and developments? Or the one that gets overly excited to crumbs?

          • Ged

            Looking at Celani’s report again, I see that Technova and Kobe University were also collaborating with him (they seemed to be working on a different alloy that had zirconium). This makes me even more excited for their presentation later today. Keep an eye out guys!

          • georgehants

            Smithsonian.com
            August 8, 2012 11:36 am
            The Man who “Discovered” Cold Fusion Just Passed Away.
            http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/smartnews/2012/08/the-man-who-discovered-cold-fusion-just-passed-away/

          • GreenWin

            Some of this is better than a great Kabuki play.

          • georgehants

            dragonX, you do not warrant any debate on your trouble making.
            If somebody wishes to celebrate every little advance, that is their prerogative.
            On this site there is pride that a person can put a fair view without being abused.
            You clearly are in the wrong place, and should retire back to a more fitting enviroment.

          • Edog

            Chill guys. Once energy is out of the hands of the evil elite. Then our next task is to learn how to be good to each other! Kiss

          • dragonX

            If you can’t take even a moderate opinion regarding results, I wonder how prepared are you to defend cold fusion against biased opinions (aka skeptics)?
            Your fairyland is just that: your fairyland. Welcome to real world where you are judged by meaningful results. If you will be working in my department, you will be fired because of your laxed attitude regarding results.

            Real world wants commercial results. Celani experiment is not considered meaningful result by anybody in real world. Please scale up to kilowatts and then we can all celebrate.

            If you think you can outrun the skeptics just by saying they are in the wrong place you are gravely mistaken. You cannot hide in here.
            And I am not even a skeptic.

            Let’s not defend beliefs anymore and dare ask for some real results (commercial results that is).

          • Barry

            dx can’t you acknowledge the accumulating body of evidence from multiple sources, telling us it is all real?

            I’m getting my cork screw Paulc.

    • georgehants

      paulc, I’ll drink to that, still a ways to go before acceptance though.

  • Tyuratam

    Perhaps the most important consecuence of the demonstration of Celani is the credibility that it gives to the results supposedly obtained by Andrea Rossi.

    The analysis of E-CAT ashes conducted by Kullander (Uppsala University) showed a composition that was 10% copper and 11% iron. In addition, Kullander said that copper was in the natural isotopic composition, suggesting that Cu was part of the original preparation, not the result of the transformation of Ni by nuclear processes. Well, now, thanks to Celani, we know why was the Cu in the ashes… But why iron appeared also in the analysis? Could an Fe/Ni/Cu alloy further enhance the anomalous
    power effect?

    What is clear is that following the bread crumbs left by Rossi greatly amplifies the LENR process yield.

    • artefact

      The reaction could than be h + h = d ; .. He4 like Brillouin says if the iron is part of the catalyzer. And after 6 month the reactor needs degassing. The Ni, Cu and Fe could be reused.

      • Ged

        This is how it seems to be. I think the copper bit fooled Rossi and co for awhile as a potential mechanism; but our understanding has greatly grown since then.

    • “thanks to Celani, we know why was the Cu in the ashes”, it is an interesting comment. Although Celani did not replicate the e-cat conditions, but let us assume for a moment it would be comparable and the Cu was present in the e-cat material from the beginning, and let us assume the e-cat device is real, then what is the procees ?
      I suggest to look at the periodic table. Fe is lighter can Ni. It cannot be made by a fusion product, it would be a product of fission (Ni-2H). Something totally new in the context.
      Only Cu would be the primary product of (Ni+1H) fusion. But there the isotope ratio of the Cu formed must match the model or the model is wrong. A natural istope ratio was found which is only possible if formed radioactive instable Cu would convert completely further to other products. In this context, interestingly, the Rossi patent claims the formation of Zn which could be formally (Ni+2H). This must go through intermediate Cu stage again (Cu+1H). But it seems very unlikely there would be a complete conversion of Cu to Zn, retaining natural Cu isotope ratio.
      Where is the Fe coming from ? What is its function ?
      If only a “catalyst”, then it must have been present before in the starting material. This can be measured easily. Rossi claims to use only Ni.
      If Fe is a “catalyst”, what is then the process ? If not a Ni-H reaction (as claimed by Rossi), what then ? If it is H+H, the product would be Helium or subsequently Lithium.
      All these things can be measured. Serious scientists would measure the elemental composition of the starting material before experiment and the ash afterwards, and compare to provide evidence. Then measure the excess heat and correlate with the model.
      Suppose Rossi knew this all along and misinformed to protect his know-how, there are other implications. 1. he would risk to lose his patent. It is weak already due to insufficient disclosure as confirmed by patent examiner reports. 2. with this confusion he would risk the certification. Hard to imagine that authorities in US or Europe would certify a nuclear process without knowledge and evidence what is going on.

  • Jim Johnson

    I was reading Celani’s report with a view to how close it was to a “cookbook recipe” for replication. My understanding broke down around the preparation of the wire. I got that he starts with a commercial product (good), and that he burns off the insulation, and puts it through heat cycles (?) to cause the surface to fracture (?). But I was left with a feeling that there was still a considerable gap between the given information and what a high school science class could put together. Any thoughts on what specific information would be needed to close that gap, specifically around the preparation of the wire? Or was it there and I missed it?

    • N810

      But didn’t a European high school class allready make one?

      • GreenWin

        The Italian Abundo, Athanor cell uses tungsten powder as the cathode. It’s details and COP will be published shortly according to Abundo. Prof Stremmenos says a period of de-gassing prior to loading the lattice increases repeatability and range of the excess heat.

    • Ged

      Hmm, can you point out exactly where in the text you mean?

      Before the “New Wire” section, we see a lot of talk about many experiments on the wires, and then we get the specific “New Wire” section discussing the optimized case he’s demonstrating now. There’s a lot of information packed into a small report, so I’m not sure exactly where you are looking at the moment.

      • Jim Johnson

        Just to make sure we’re on the same page, this is what I was originally referring to:

        http://lenrnews.eu/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/PresICCF17_NewA3A.pdf

        wire preparation start with this text

        <>

        and continues with this section in italics

        << (start italics) We found that increasing both the current (up to 2500-
        3000mA) and the time at high power (5-1000s),
        decreasing the cooling speed (from 100s down to <1s)
        had dramatic effects on the growing of nanomicrostructures and their dimensions. The role of O2,
        because free air treatment, is quite important. The wire
        temperature, in some tests, was even larger than 1000°C
        (rough evaluation by colour temperature; the melting
        point of pure Cu is 1083°C). (end italics)

        <>

        and then reference other work

        <>

        The “Results with New Wire” section seems to only refer to what they *did with* the wire, having produced it as above.

        They reference using a SEM (scanning electron microscope) to find the “best” wire (smallest nanostructure, and BTW, Ivan’s post below has GREAT pictures of what they mean by smallest nano-structure.

        So, I get that it’s replicatable, but if it requires a SEM to sort for the best wire, that’s big hurdle for the “high school” grade experimenter.

        I am only focused on what can be done to accelerate LENR to “escape velocity”. Low cost replicatability is obviously a key. If the gaps can be identified, perhaps that will help the non-commercial researchers.

        And, hoo-ah on the Toyota reference. Never plug your Prius in again?

    • Ivan Mohorovicic

      This presentation might cover that a bit more in detail:

      http://www.iscmns.org/work10/Celani.pdf

      • Edog

        Love you all. This is great . Im so lucky to be reading the storyas it happens. Wow

        • for once we have proofs that , even if DGT and Rossi have nothing, some engineer will solve the problem…

          if you don’t know how, and don’t want to read me, just pay me a few million euro…
          it will be wasted money because I will just do the same as defkalion and rossi. just scale up, increase reactive sites and COP, manage safety and control (will be tricky, but that is a job).

          • “we have proofs that , even if DGT and Rossi have nothing, some engineer will solve the problem…”

            The significance of that is actually quite hard to grasp, now that it has finally arrived. It is no longer a question of optimistic interpretation of partial information, or ‘belief’ in Rossi or anyone else… suddenly it is REAL. Whether the media report on Celani’s presentation or not, the world really has changed today, and I think the date may well be remembered.

          • georgehants

            Peter, thats what I was asking this morning.
            Now we wait for the World to move and Mr. Rossi to do his stuff. (hopefully.)
            My interest stays also with reports in Cold Fusion of transmutation, I want to see the old alchemists vindicated.
            They where the top scientists of their day and cannot as many arrogant modern people do, be put down as if they where backward.

      • Ged

        That presentation is quite amazing. Wealth of information on everything I can think of we could want to know. 95 times higher than the chemical energy limit of nickel is quite impressive.

      • Jim Johnson

        Ivan, thanks for the link. Great pictures on what they mean by “best wire” = “smallest nanostructure”. However, the authors admit the reality with this statement in the sample preparation section:

        [[ More work, systematic and long/expensive, is necessary
        to optimize the multi-parameters operating conditions.]]

        Got to respect their integrity for that.

        The pictures do help close the gap if you happen to have a SEM. I’m not doubting or complaining, I just want to know how close to cookbook we are. From their quote above, maybe a good bit away, on this particular route. On the other hand, if they can produce the wires and drag an experiment 5000 miles to a conference hall and show excess heat, a reliable recipe might not have been one of their priorities. And maybe the parameter space for wire preparation isn’t that large.

  • Edog

    Hot topic frank! This might break ecatworld records! I am happy today

  • georgehants

    repeat

  • barty

    WOHOO – FIRST ARTICLE IN MAIN STREAM NEWS:

    [b]New Burst of Energy Could Bring Cold Fusion to Front Burner[/b]

    http://www.usnews.com/news/blogs/at-the-edge/2012/08/08/new-burst-of-energy-could-bring-cold-fusion-to-front-burner

    • georgehants

      Good one barty, even the bloggers are mostly positive.

    • Is this publication online only, or is there a print version?

    • daniel maris

      An important step forward… 🙂 Thanks for that.

    • GreenWin

      Someone smell Pulitzer?? Factual error – they write that SPAWAR shut down their research when in fact they moved it to another federal agency (according to SPAWAR spokesman.) The Pulitzer will go to the reporter(s) who are unafraid to look at the bad behavior of scientists, politicians and academics following Pons and Fleischmann’s announcement.

      Who will be courageous enough to take a hard look at Dr. Eugene Mallove’s public accusation of malfeasance and falsified data at MIT following F&P??? REAL journalists show us the underbelly of the beast – and in so doing, enlighten the world.

      • AB

        Got a source for that? I always assumed the program was shut down.

        • GreenWin

          From kirvit:

          “…James Fallin, the director of public affairs at SPAWAR San Diego, asked for confirmation.

          “In response to your recent query,” Fallin wrote, “while I won’t discuss details of our internal decision-making processes, I will confirm SPAWAR plans no further low-energy nuclear reaction (LENR) research. There are other organizations within the federal government that are better aligned to continue research regarding nuclear power. We have taken initial steps to determine how a transition of low-energy nuclear reaction (LENR) research might occur.”

          But apparently there is contrast in the ranks as Ray Mabus, Secretary of the Navy stated last year:

          “This is what we do,” he said. “We change the way we use and produce energy, and we’re doing it again, and we’re at the cutting edge, which is where the Navy has always been on energy use.”