2013 — Happy New Cold Fusion Year?

As we end 2012, here’s another interesting comment from Andrea Rossi about the 1 MW E-Cat plant that was seen in the recent Swedish SVT program:

Dear Scott L.:
As I said and wrote many times, the Container of the 1 MW plant is the same tested one year ago, since to the military Customer we delivered different ones. This one, seen also in the Swedish Television, has been used to make tests, modifications, improvements, certification. It has been a tremendous tool for R&D. Now it is destined to a Customer. It will be delivered on March, after further series of modifications we have in course now. Thanks to it now we can pass to a repetitive manufacturing line. After a glorious first life as a prototype for R&D, it is on his way to go to work in a centralized heating plant to supply heat: this will be his seconf life.
Warm Regards,

I am reluctant to make firm predictions about the emergence of cold fusion/LENR, since there are many unknowns — but I will make a cautious statement that the way things stand right now, it seems to me that 2013 may be the year that the technology hits the marketplace and the public consciousness and becomes seen more widely as a viable solution to many of the energy problems we face.

I thank all E-Cat World readers for the time and attention you have given this site over the past year. I feel very fortunate to be able to participate in the discussion of our fascinating topic of study. Without the contributions of the readership here, this site would be very much poorer.

My goal here has been is to follow the evidence, and try to get to the truth of the matter regarding this technology. I am hopeful, but am trying to be circumspect, since the truth is not served well by irrational exuberance.

My best wishes to all E-Cat World readers — may 2013 be a good year for the cause of cold fusion.

Frank Acland

  • Sandy

    Dear Mr. Acland:

    Thank you for all the effort you put into this website. I look forward to coming here every morning to get the latest news about cold fusion.

    Please have a Happy New Year!

    With best wishes, Sandy

    • georgehants

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      • 2013

        As I understand this is a publicly open session?.
        Have I understood correct?

  • Ramsy

    Happy New Year every one.

    • clovis

      Hsppy New Year, everyone,

      • Rudj

        Merry christmas all from Europe (Italy)

    • jos

      Dear Frank
      from the sweltering heath of inland Australia, I wish you and all your readers the very best for 2013. Thank you for your relentless pursuit of knowledge

    • Owen

      New Papp engine video by Ruby Carat, courtesy Vortex list:
      http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg74856.html

      Heinz Klostermann on the Papp engine: “There should be a Marshall Plan to support this”

      Klostermann says his engine works on just air.

      • Zaghlool

        Sorry Owen, it seems that Adris has stolen your “Magin Engine”.

        • Owen

          Some people don’t read the comments before posting. No big deal, but that’s the best approach so the same thing isn’t posted over and over.

          • Peter_Roe

            I like the idea that Klostermann is experimenting using air as the working fluid – the problem of gas loss past the seals (or even just ordinary piston rings) has always looked pretty insurmountable to me. I hope there will be a follow-up on these experiments soon.

      • Pweet

        It’s hard to understand why anyone would still have any belief in anything useful coming from the Papp engine after the recent John Rohner fiasco.
        At his last public exhibition a few weeks back, where after all his promises to display working engines driving useful products, the only thing which was displayed was a half finished prototype which couldn’t be run because,… they said they forgot to bring the starter motor. This was an exhibition which was planned for months and they say they forgot to bring the starter mmotor. Really? (excuse me while I fall about laughing. 🙂 )
        The exhibition went on for three days and yet they didn’t want to get DHL or anyone else to fly it in overnight air express. They also didn’t take up the offer for someone else to provide one when offered.
        There is absolutley no scientific basis for anything using his “plasmic transition process” of ever producing over unity output. None at all. And it was obvious from the beginning.
        And his plasmic transition process is the same Papp noble gas engine process in a more colorful wrapper.
        All evidence and later experiments indicate Joseph Papp was a complete con-artist who took millions from gullible investers over many years and spent most of it on himself and his new found luxurious lifestyle.
        I think you can safely follow this only to satisfy a morbid curiosity.

        • Peter_Roe

          Yes, unfortunately John Rohner has given naysayers such as yourself the ammunition they needed to discount the whole field of investigation (and to crow about it). Meanwhile anyone whose mind is not locked tight shut will simply remain neutral until such time as any good evidence is presented.

          • Pweet

            Pete, I am not always a naysayer; only when logic dictates and only after much consideration.
            I was never a supporter of Papp or Rohner or any of their offshoots because the basic idea is totally without foundation and clearly a con from start to finish. I thought that was proven many years ago but it seems to have resurfaced to perform before a new audience who didn’t see the first showing. So for this I was a naysayer and so I should be.
            I am an engineer with a uni. degree in engineering and with around 50 years experience. (Yes, I am that old.)
            Much to the amusement of my scientific and engineering friends I have been an enthusiastic follower of so called “cold fusion” since F & P times, over twenty years ago. I still hold out hope that something will come of it,.. from someone, somewhere. I don’t care who they are or where they are from.
            I was initially a strong supporter of A.R. for over a year when he first made his announcement to the world that he had something which could produce kilowatts of power with a COP of around 6. I willingly overlooked the few small signs that things were not quite as they were reported because it fitted in with my dream so I was willing to wander off after it when it presented itself. Why not? It cost me nothing and I find it intereting.
            Engineers by their training have to deal in facts. You are free to use your imagination but in the end, the finished product has to rely on proven facts. You cannot build a bridge or a building or an aeroplane based on wishful thinking or hearsay and then use the customer to verify (or not) your product. I see anyone who proclaims this as a reasonable way to run a business as being seriously suspect.
            In spite of what my educated friends tell me I still do not think LENR is without foundation and I will be following it until I get conclusive proof to the contrary, so in that respect I am not a “naysayer.”
            However, I have to say that for over a year now, I see every claim coming from one particular direction as being either contrary to demonstrated fact, without foundation in fact, contradictory to previous statements, or just plain wishful thinking.
            In this regard I have long since accepted that from this particular direction, my dream has deserted. Barring some miracle, I do not see this changing.
            Maybe for me at the rear end of life, LENR will always be only a dream, although I hope not because otherwise this world is heading for a very messy and troubled future.
            Happy new year Pete,
            and my advice for the new year is,.. don’t bet the farm on your present leanings.

          • Peter_Roe

            Pweet, thank you for your explanation of ‘where you are coming from’. I am similarly ancient, in my case retired after a career that began in bacterial genetics research and moved through engineering (biological systems) to (sub)editing a scientific journal and writing.

            You are on a pretty safe bet with cold fusion I think, but if you’ll take my advice, don’t bother to mention it to anyone who does not have a scientific background, and has not already shown some ability to think outside the box. As far as Papp engines are concerned, I am following my own suggestion and remaining neutral pending better evidence.

            To be honest, your fuller explanation of your position is something of a surprise, as your comments have seemed (and continue to seem) deliberately negative, and in general along the lines of what can be expected from the naysayers and shills who occasionally frequent this blog. I hope that you are actually more able to take on board the real evidence available for CF, including evidence supporting Rossi’s claims, than your comments so far might indicate.

            I agree with your sentiments regarding LENR. There is now an incredible degree of corruption in almost every area of ‘authority’, almost nothing is as it seems in the world, and if nothing changes to weaken the stranglehold of what Robert Mockan calls the ‘mad oligarchs’, we are heading for a horrific future. Rossi’s devices or other new energy sources may be about the only thing that can avert or modify some very sinister developments, many already in hand.

            I wish you a happy new year – but unless a few more people ‘wake up’ very soon I don’t actually have that much confidence in it being so for anyone except the bankers and their minions.

          • GreenWin

            Peter, I believe Robert likes to refer to the “insane oligarchs” – mad is simply too kind for the damage they have wrought.

            2013 cold fusion rules.

      • Peter_Roe

        As noted in the comments, there is not enough instrumentation data to determine whether this is an ‘overunity’ device or not. The energy stored in a capacitor can be significant and without knowing the capacitance, a measurement of voltage drop is not very useful. I think there may be some new physics here, but only a working prototype linear generator or instrumented motor will prove that there is anything worthy of a ‘Marshall plan’ here (I look forward to that day).

  • Zeddicus Zul Zorander

    Lectori Salutem!

    Happy new year to all you guys and girls out there.

    Here’s hoping the MFMP project is succesful today as I believe they wanted to try a replication effort on the 31th. Wouldn’t the new year start with a big bang if they succeeded?

  • Kimball

    Happy New Year everyone from the Crossroads of the West, USA.

  • Garry

    Happy New Year to all. My New Year’s Resolution– promote the idea of cold fusion research to as many of my colleagues as possible to spread the “potential”.

    And thanks Frank for running the best informational site out there I have found on this subject.

    • Jorge

      Hi all,
      I’m a bit fearful. I’m afraid that the acquisition of Rossi’s IP by this big player means that cold fusion technology will be on some company’s drawer for another 20 years.
      Yes, I know it’s pessimistic, but if they pay him all he could ever expect to achieve with actually selling it, than what is the motivation for him to continue?
      I’m worried because I believe in it and it’s potential, but also on the business destructive potential for established industries.
      Am I being too paranoid?

      • Peter_Roe

        When it comes to large corporations, banksters and pocketed politicians, paranoia seems to be a reasonable general approach. As Rossi’s IP is now in the hands of some corporate entity, the outcome will be determined by corporate self interest and competition at the lowest levels, and by the calculations of the bankers who own the energy cartels at a higher level.

        The interests of the population at large will of course be immaterial, but at the least, CF powered grid electricity is probably inevitable because it will be so incredibly profitable. Of course, set against this is the incredible investment by the same cartel-owning bankers in non-redeemable assets such as nuclear power stations, gas pipelines, oil drilling platforms, refineries, tanker fleets etc., so the roll-out is likely to be much slower and far less complete (no vehicle propulsion for example) than we might otherwise hope for.

        • lcd

          The reason people are not making copies of the eat cat is because 99.9 percent of the world still believes “LENR+” does not exist.

          Once people believe, things change overnight.

      • Bernie Koppenhofer

        It is really up to us. Get the word out. When I first started sending information about LENR to my friends, they laughed at me. Now they are starting to listen. It is great to live in an era of instant communication, it will be great for LENR. I just copied georgehants information about the MIT course and will send it to all my friends. Information like this will make believers, if we have enough believers, it will be hard for anyone to suppress LENR.

  • Pietro F.

    Buon anno dall’Italia!!!

    il 2013 sarà l’anno del gatto!!!

    • Fibb

      Happy new year to Frank and his readers. May 2013 be the year the world goes, “Wut?”

      • john E

        —”WUT?!” —

        Our new greeting, our new motto, and our new cheer. 🙂


      As I hang my “coldfusionnow.org” calendar having just watched BIGBEN chime in the New Year, I wonder if this year is to be the dawn of the fusion era.

      I have watched the Rossi news for the last 2 years and wanted to see it on the market. I am sure this year in 2013 there will be a great emergence of information in the media and people will at last see the efforts of the amazing work of Dr’s Fleischmann and Pons become the dream technology we need so badly.

      It is a shame Dr. Fleischmann had to leave us on the verge of the fusion era, but I am certain his name will live on into the future as we see his and Dr. Pons discovery slowly and completely change the world for the better.

      A very Happy New Year to all the people involved in the site and to all the readers,lets hope 2013 is the year we saved the world.

      • Adris

        Well, Every one will pass away some day.
        Dr. Fleischmann passed away at age 75 which is not bad at all.
        The Prophet Moses said 3500 years ago:
        “Normally man’s life time is 70 and with strength it is 80 and most of it tiredness and Woes.”

        • Peter_Roe

          Thank you for that cheerful ‘thought for the day’!

  • Richard Freeman

    A warm and very Happy New Year to Frank and Andrea.
    Thank you all for Lighting the light for our Grand Children’s future.
    Warm regards from a cool Norfolk coast.

  • Jaroslav

    As a working scientist I’ve been following the CF thread since the original P&F announcement. In those days I didn’t realize the destructive nature and small mindedness of narrow self-interest. The fact that “something” happened in that beaker even though not fully reproducible should have been the active thread. Instead two great scientists were sacrificed as the scientific community fell into the trap and antithesis of our profession, a fear of discovery. Maybe that’s a given and the inherent cost of changing the world.
    In any case, throughout the past decades that unexplained phenomena has been my overriding question.
    With the current and expanding set of LENR players and the existence of this and other platforms of discussion and witness we are hopefully at the tipping point where the technology will be allowed to fairly play out.
    So to you Frank, many thanks for your excellent efforts and a Happy New Year.

  • timycelyn

    Frank, thanks for all your diligent efforts for keeping us all so well informed in 2012. ECW now towers above all other LENR news sites as the place to go.

    I agree with you that surely 2013 is the year this technology breaks cover in the public consciousnesses. With the accelerating pace of events we have seen in Q4 2012, ir is hard to imagine otherwise.

    I look forward to following the twists and turns of the story as it unfolds, right here.

    Once again, many, many, thanks…..


  • Lu

    Happy New Year to Frank and all E-Catworld readers! My 2013 truly be the year of the E-Cat.

  • mikeS_50

    Happy New Year 2013 the year Cold Fusion became mainstream!

  • Cyle Moore

    Happy New year, from Austin TX

    Thank you Frank for all your efforts!


  • john E

    Happy New Year to everyone and sincere thanks to Frank for this forum.

    It will be a wonderful thing if we are able to celebrate LENR together. May it be this year and, if so, may we all use the stations in our lives to help smooth the formidable transition to a new source of power. It will probably usher in somewhat changed if not unfamiliar world. If it arrives this year the impact could well be as if just fell out of the sky… changes in economics, he fortunes of countries and individuals, and the tearing down of institutions and building up of new market markets, technologies, industries, opportunities and visions.

    What will become the critical resource if energy is available to all? In theory it will make water, food and transportation more available. I’m guessing power and politics will pivot around technology which could mean greater investment in human resources and thus a kind of education or training very different from what we invest in now.

    I wonder who the new players will be and who will find themselves exploited.

    Frank, I have not read your novel. Do you speculate on this?

    • admin

      Hi John,

      I think of my novel as more of an adventure story than anything else — just with a free energy theme. It does get into what the effects of cheap and abundant energy could be — but it’s not a prediction, just one possible scenario.

      Happy new year to you!



  • Invy

    Odd place to put this question, but the forum menu link isn’t there so…

    Has anyone read or can recommend a konstantin meyl book for someone that wants to understand his theory?


    • Krish

      I too miss the FORUMS link.

    • Krish

      I too miss the lively FORUMS link.

  • pl

    Happy New Year!Welcome 2013 E-CAT YEAR

    Yes Virginia, there IS a Santa Clause and he will bring the world CF/LENR energy reactors for safe, clean, and abundant energy. Then the world will be a much better place for us. jdh

  • Adris
    • Thank you, Frank! I don’t think a site has ever captivated me like this one, and I am deeply proud of your restrained optimism, your reserve and your research-guided comments. I’ll be out there hoping with you that 2013 is the Year of LENR! Happy New Year!

      • GreenWin

        The Swedish Public TV documentary on Andrea Rossi, (World of Science, 3.3M viewers) has apparently made a positive impression throughout Europe. Looks like Germany might reconfigure it’s fission industry to accept cold fusion. An intelligent choice – made sooner than later:


        • barty

          In germany there is extremly less acceptance of LENR.

          I posted serious informations about LENR experiments (not about Rossi) in a few big german online forums, and the feedback is very disappointing 🙁

          • captain

            It seems to me that the music sounds the same in other countries, no surprise at all.
            In Germany, in particular, Rossi’s figure is described, IMO, as not worthy of any attention, and criticised too for his results in efficiently converting wastes into fuel oil. From 7 tons of waste, 2 tons of oil!!!

            As I’ve sasind in another of my comments, germans don’t take in any consideration what is discovered, by italians: they think that only germans can make great discoveries. Not all, but still most of them.

            And I’ve already said that the E-Cat/LENR is the result of a complex italian studies and researches at high level, made thru universities by a bunch of qualified scientists. And that dr. or prof. or eng. Rossi is simply the last one, chronologically speaking, of the series.

            As Rossi said, the results will speak for themselves. ENVY IS A BAD THING.

          • captain

            Add to my comment:
            – ‘sasind’ plz read ‘said’
            – should someone prefer, call mr. Rossi a selfmade scientist, it’s always an honor for him.

          • I spoke to a German rocket scientist later winter last year. He didn’t believe that Vega (the new Italian small launcher system) will ever fly, he was accussing it of infinite delays, bad management etc. When I mentioned to him that as far as I recall Vega already flew successfully a few weeks back, he said that it was impossible, it must have been some other rocket.

            Disclaimer: Obviously not all Germans think like that about Italian projects, but anyway these national moods are a reality where we are living in.

          • captain

            Hi Pekka, thanks! I’m satisfied for your comment.

    • Zaghlool

      Well, that scientist does not have any measuring instruments to prove that his magic engine’s efficiency is greater than 1.

      • b4FreeEnergy

        Yes that’s true, he didn’t prove a thing but it’s apparently yet another elegant way to produce energy which was available a long time ago and did not surface!

        It makes you wonder what else did they hide away because it was way to efficient and cannot be ‘metered’.

        Brings me to the question what I would do if I had an over-unity machine running smoothly on my attic … Would I quietly run my house on it, would I try to get it patented or would I put the blueprints for free on the internet for everybody to use?

        Suppose I don’t want money and I put it on the internet, would anybody believe it works? It would probably get lost anyway between all the other stuff floating around on the internet … 😉

        Happy 2013 to everybody and especially to Frank keeping this site up and apparently somehow magically being able to read every single word posted! 🙂

        • b4FreeEnergy

          “… too efficient … ”
          Now everybody knows, once more, English is not my native language …

          • Zaghlool

            Well, I’m waiting from that scientist to show a working engine producing electricity with efficiency greater than 1.

          • Omega Z


            For not being your native language you do quite well. Better then some who’s native language is English…

  • Nick Pourmi

    Sincere congratulations to you, Frank, for your determination in spreading into the world the good news about Andrea Rossi’s marvel: The New Fire. We should be proud with our brightest minds’ achievements.
    Let us all hope the years to come will gloriously reward humankind with something it honestly deserves, after all.

    Best wishes from Romania.

  • admin

    Thanks so much for all the kind comments and good wishes! I greatly appreciate it. I am surprised that our topic of study does not get the coverage I think it deserves, and I really hope this begins to change.

    I believe that in time cold fusion/LENR will have as significant an impact on our world as has the discovery of electricity — perhaps more. So in my opinion, it is certainly worth my efforts keep up with the news and developments. I’m very glad to have such good company!

  • Karl

    Happy New Year!

    Many thanks to you Frank for your good work to keep the discussion interesting, tidy and open minded about the very important subject of solving the issue of abundant clean and cheap energy, currently one of greatest problem to solve for all on this earth.

    Internet is a powerful tool to make it possible to spread and enlighten the minds of many but it also offers a considerable trap for the ill will or pure fatuity. It is easy to spread sick information and radicle serious discoveries and persons for whatever agenda. We clearly see clever scientists that refuse to grasp new findings and irrefutable proofs even if human surely still have much to reveal from nature to say it mildly.

    In this light, I think you deserve a considerable respect and gratitude from many of us providing one of a most open and fresh place to discuss the matter of CF/LENR with very few exceptions in the entire world. Your blog is a shining star handling so well the promising emergence of CF/LENR which until now discoveries is still so shamefully, stupidly and cowardly hidden by the main stream science community and thus full media coverage.

    This blog cover so much more than the emergence of the E-Cat and A. Rossi who also deserves a considerable respect for the attention and hope his work creates. The advantages with the emergence of the E-Cat are that it allows many other innovators to get attention and being funded with similar or totally different technologies.

    There appears to be so much of hidden and even forgotten knowledge that could release the vast energy conserved in matters and space, smarter and totally clean. I think we have reasons to look forward to a really interesting 2013.

  • Peter_Roe

    Best wishes for a happy and prosperous New Year to everyone, and special thanks to Frank for building this great forum and maintaining it with such dedication. May all our hopes for a brighter future begin to become reality very soon.

    Wow – 2013. According to my boyhood comics we should all be living in silver towers and rushing around in our aircars while wearing tight jump suits with little cloaks. I thank providence that I can still live in a pile of rubble and dress like a tramp. I’d quite like the aircar though.

    • Peter, you are joking but I’m not: I believe more in future transportation by vacuum trains or smaller vacuum cars than to widespread personal air transportation. I see noise almost as a showstopper issue for 8 billion personal airplanes, while vacuum tube transportation would be silent (and ironically enough, in principle it could run with no energy).

      • Peter_Roe

        Pekka – here in the UK, mending holes in the roads seem to be more of an investment in infrastructure than many local authorities can afford. We haven’t even managed to get our grid power lines underground, let alone any of our transport network outside London.

        Where I live I am overflown by several ‘microlight’ aircraft every morning and evening during the working week, so there are already some pioneers commuting to work this way. As far as noise goes, everyone under 40 seems to wander around with headphones or earpieces permanently fitted – they probably wouldn’t even notice the aircars, even if they were powered by noisy lawnmover engines like the microlights.

        • captain

          Frank, U’are doing a good job with this blog: keep on running it ASmoothAP 😉

          Steven Karels
          December 31st, 2012 at 2:28 PM

          Dear Andrea Rossi,
          You stated “As I said and wrote many times, the Container of the 1 MW plant is the same tested one year ago, since to the military Customer we delivered different ones.”
          Are we, therefore, to understand that you have delivered several (more than 3?) Warm eCats to a single military customer?
          The scheduled release of another eCat in February/March? Is that to a non-military customer? Please clarify. Happy New Year!

          Andrea Rossi
          December 31st, 2012 at 2:42 PM

          Dear Steven Karels:
          I cannot give information about our military deliveries.
          The civil industrial plants deliveries will start in February/March.
          Warm Regards,

          Now Rossi’s says what he’s allowed to say, and this is understandable.
          But time ago he mentioned a ‘deal for an 12MW warm thermal power plant’ and I think that has been the real ‘commercial’ startup, though with a still unknown (military) customer.
          If one of more 1MW plants were supplied, that doesn’t matter too much: it’s a secret and it’ll remain a secret for awhile…
          But almost surely that deal has been done and Leonardo corp., thru that, has got the opportunity to grow up nicely.

          Officially Obama said that US Navy will endeavor to supply clean energy to a large numbers of units thru the states, with wind and solar technology… and in my comments I’ve written that Navy’scubadivers will mount the wind towers with … propellers 🙁 and the like.

          IMHO I think thast prez Obama has not said all the truth, just my opinion, about clean energy sources program for the nation.

          Instead I believe that US Navy has already bought a consistent number of E-Cat 1MW plants, has improved (thru Rossi?) the technology and should be already using it on the large submarines. At least with taxpayers’satisfaction this time, though they still unaware 😉

          In other words: E-Cat technology is going to replace almost all the existing nuclear power plants in the world. Like it or not.

          Thanks again Admin: hopefully this will not be deleted!

  • dandelion

    Happy New Year to all of you and a big Thank You to Frank and the people here who keep the interest for LENR alive and well!

  • captain

    In my last comments of a couple of minutes ago. the word ‘UNITS’ must be read as ‘HOUSES’.

    Sorry, but so far I cant see my comment nor I can edit it.

  • psi

    Let me ad my best wishes to all, and special thanks to Frank for keeping the midnight LENR lamp burning. I look forward to an exciting 2013 in LENR development.

  • Again a long thread on Vortex http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg74920.html where Jed Rothwell writes e.g. the following:

    “They tested a device with flow calorimetry in their own facility in the
    U.S. for a couple of weeks, when Rossi was not present. This was some years
    ago. The device was in the same class as the heater that ran for a year in
    the Italian factory… “

    I don’t remember Jed having said that earlier. It wasn’t mentioned who “they” are, though.

    • Renzo

      Jed has always said he knew well about other private tests but this time he added some more details

  • From JONP
    Lande, January 1st, 2013 at 9:53 AM
    1. Do you think you will be able to publish your theory on this energy phenomenon in 2013? AR: Yes.
    2. Have you plans to scale up production facilities in 2013 (to start on an exponential growth of production…)..? AR: Yes.

  • jacob

    thanks frank for your time and effort for bringing E-cat World
    to us.
    Over 2012 we have seen some progress made by mainly Mr.Rossi and partners,
    however us the consumers have been kept in the dark by those who kept information secret.
    the majority of the world has not heart about this new technology and its potential to change over our current infa structure to a possible utopia,but I know for the mayority of the population that will never happen.
    those who control this technology now ,in the end will make lots of money
    while us the consumers will still have to pay dearly for energy for a long time to come,even if LENR is integrated in the next decade.

    I think progress will continue to be slow.

    If it wasn’t for the oil industry in my country,we would be a banana republic.

    low cost heat is wanted by all of us,we could all greatly benefit from it, specially in the winter here in Canada.

  • Fibb

    Frank, I am hopeful that Rossi and other LENR device makers are going to rock the world in 2013 with irrefutable 3rd party verification and I do believe patience is a virtue in these matters. Having said that, there have been a number of less than flattering circumstance surrounding Rossi’s claims and demos and he has his ardent critics.

    This concern raising summary of ecat history http://blog.stepchange-innovations.com/2012/12/e-cat-fading-dream-for-free-energy/#.UOMPuKONCK4 could use a counter blog post. It would be grand to have each concern addressed in detail.

    Or we could just wait and see how Rossi does with his future public customers I suppose.

  • Nixter

    Even though it is in bad taste to characterize an entire Nation with a quick summary statement, (I’ll do it anyway in the name of Science.), I think it is a fact that Germans are in general, pragmatic, when they see the reality of LENR and it’s obviously working, they will not only accept it, the Germans will adopt it and make it their own, Rossi is an Engineer, the Germans are amongst the best Engineers on the Planet.

    The article in question is interesting, the statement, “Oettinger predicts advances in nuclear fusion could convince the government to change its view.”, does reflect a kind of turn around for the nations states policy. It makes one wonder, has someone in a position of authority received insider information pertaining to the validity of certain LENR devices?

    The independent third party report was finished around Dec. 16th 2012 , if it does contain positive information regarding Rossi’s technology, I would expect some amount of information “leakage”, especially when the news is that not only does it work, it works very well. Something commonly thought to be “impossible”, by 99% of the worlds scientific “hive mind”, has been seen by a handful of skeptical insider technicians, and it appears to be real. No matter how tight the security, I would predict that a buzz would ensue, perhaps not the full story will be leaked, but awe struck witnesses, insiders present at the testing will be whispering that something quite monumental has been seen and it is about to be made public.

    Government institutions will be affected by the whispers if the sources are credentialed entities with reputations unsoiled by controversies. I suspect that information “backscatter”, has sown seeds of confirmation into the wind that Engineer Rossi’s crazy sounding E-Cat invention actually passed the tests with flying colors. And with that we should expect to start seeing positions changing, bending, adapting to the latest intel.

    • GreenWin

      Reasonable speculation Nix. Oettinger said this yesterday:

      “The research into nuclear fusion, which is also a form of nuclear energy makes just great progress. Maybe one day this technique is accepted in Germany.”

      He also predicted that at the present rate of increasing electric cost, many German homes would be unable [impoverished] to pay their electric bill.

  • robyn wyrick

    Hi Frank,

    This forum has been incredibly helpful to me – and the fact that you have kept at it every day is a real benefit, (which I imagine is not at all easy some days.)

    That said, I would like to renew my call/request for something that consolidates some of the information like a wiki or better – like your “Why I Believe In The E-Cat” that is structured as “The Case For Cold Fusion”.

    I just posted on Facebook how I think things look, but a FB post if quickly lost in the flotsam. The news of the Toyota/Mitsubishi replication, the MIT program, the Miley patent, and on and on, are huge stories that came this year, but don’t live in an organized location.

    I could organize something on my own website, but no one would ever think to look there – and I could not do it as well as the community of people contributing here.

    I’d like to ask it there is a way to do this. If all you do is post a page and allow for comments, we contributors could gather all the material for you; probably even some of us would be willing to help curate it.

    Well, that is my wish: I really can’t thank you enough for your excellent website and your diligent work.


    • Pedro

      Hi Robyn, there is a very good summary of the lenr-field from Tyler van Houwelingen. See http://www.slideshare.net/tylervan/lenr

    • One thing which is kind of missing is that JONP contains 13000 entries for which no synthesis or summary exists. A newcomer probably won’t read them all. A month by month summary of Rossi’s doings, just based on JONP, would be good to have, in my opinion. Not anything that tries to interpret it, only a couple of bullet points per month about what Rossi has said on JONP, nothing else.