Ugo Abundo Demonstrates Simple Experiment (Video)

Ugo Abundo is the instructor at Pirelli High School in Rome who became well known in the LENR community for leading a student project in building a cell designed to demonstrate cold fusion. In this video, Abundo demonstrates an experimental setup designed to demonstrate an LENR phenomenon.

I’m not exactly sure what this experiment is supposed to prove — he shows that at a fully developed plasma production in the device no electromagnetic waves are detected. Abundo says that this is the first of two videos, the second one will apparently show a more complex device — probably the hydrobetatron which the Pirelli project has been building over the last year.

  • Peter_Roe

    As admin says, it isn’t clear what this demo seeks to show – we have seen the phenomenon of submerged plasma arcing a number of times on various videos, but I don’t recall any experimenters claiming to have seen any direct indication of cold fusion such as gamma/x-ray production, free neutrons or transmutations arising from this, or who have shown excess energy.

    There is obviously some EM in the visible spectrum and possibly it might be worth looking in the UV and IR for extended emissions, but I’m not sure why RF would be expected, so the null result is not too surprising. Perhaps the next video will be a bit more informative.

    • GreenWin

      Peter, it seems Abundo demonstrates the abrupt loss of the ~300mHz RF signal at some threshold. It is curious the reaction suddenly screens RF, possibly the radiation jumps to higher frequencies (above scanner capacity) as the plasma heats.

      • Peter_Roe

        Ah – thanks, I missed that. I’ll watch again now I’ve had some coffee!

      • Peter_Roe

        btw GW, did you see the links that I posted in reply to one of your comments in the Miley thread? (interesting comments on the newvortex blog and a revealing exchange on moletrap)

        • GreenWin

          These are old style argumentation tricks picked up from debating clubs at prep schools, where I’d wager kemoyammer developed their effete intellect. Meanwhile, look for a fascinating Mallove account of how an MIT skep quietly went to EPRI seeking funds to study CF effects!!

  • buffalo

    looks like the old tungsten arc experiment done by many before.tungsten cathode and carbon anode in potassium carbonate solution.many claimed that excess heat was being liberated but no conclusive evidence.

  • Sanjeev

    Its not enough to show glowing plasma or secondary effects (like rf). He needs to measure output energy also. I’ve not yet seen such measurements in any of these wet lenr experiments, may be I missed it.

    Input is easy to measure, its about 400W here. I doubt that there will be a 10x or 20x output here (else the water will vaporize in an instant). Hopefully the next video will show output.

    • Chris I

      So am I waiting for them to conduct good calorimetry, before I’ll be hopping from foot to foot about it. But to be fair, you ought to remember about the inversion point; the current decreases so much that the power decreases too. There’s less than a hundred W by the time you see the greatest pyrotechnical display.

      Still, a relevant COP would mean several hundred W or getting on for 1kW and the bubbling doesn’t look anywhere near that.

  • Allen Gage

    I see no reason for excitement in an a submerged electric arc. Aren’t such phenomonea routinely common in underwater welding? As others have pointed out, it’s just an electric arc under water, with no measurement of energy in compared to energy out.

  • I find this video compelling. What I see is a strong divergence between energy in and apparent energy out. As the voltage is increased, the current goes down. When this happens the energy being put into the system is literally dropping. (Energy, again can be measured by voltage * amperage.)

    Is calorimetry called for? Oh yes? Is the idea worth pursuing? Absolutely? Has this phenomenon been noticed by undersea welders and the like? Maybe so, so what? If people don’t know to be looking for LENR, if people believe that LENR is not something to be looking for, they often simply don’t see it.

    In a couple of years my very science-focused daughter will be doing the science fair. She and her dad are likely to build one of these for the science fair.

    More importantly, however, if this really is LENR, then the number of people with the technical skill to reproduce LENR becomes huge. What is called for is a simple calorimetry system.

  • Roger Bird

    I don’t see that this is an “experiment”. There is no measurement of heat. It is an interesting demonstration. It is not an experiment.