Italian Senators Call for Celani Support (Restoring Funding, Lab)

There has been some activity in the Italian political and scientific communities recently over the funding of Francesco Celani, research in the Italian National Institute of Nuclear Physics. Apparently funding for his LENR research has been cut, and he has also been forced to leave his laboratory where he was carrying out his research.

Not reading Italian, and not being familiar with the political systems in Italy, this story has been a little hard for me to follow, but it has been significant enough for three members of the Italian Senate, Manuela Serra, Fabrizio Bocchino, and Gianni Peter Girotto, to have sponsored a proposal to restore funding and a laboratory to Celani for his LENR research.

The following link is to a document published on October 3 in the records of the Italian Senate, and makes a strong case for supporting LENR research in general, and Celani in particular.

I have to say that the Google translation of the document is quite hard to follow in detail, but the general idea is clear. The senators consider LENR to be a valid field of research (not junk science) that could prove to be a valuable energy source, and that Celani’s work should be supported.

Any help from our Italian readers would be appreciated here — please feel free to correct or clarify anything I’ve posted that might be inaccurate.

  • artefact

    Dr. Michael McKubre: Experimental Cold Fusion, Nonsense Skepticism, and Progressing LENR

    • GreenWin

      Thanks artefact! John Maguire’s McKubre interview is fascinating:

      “You can’t “Science” this thing into existence with the establishment hostility that exists today. I’ve moved my attention away from the pure science side to supporting commercialization activities…Go ahead, make something. Make heat, make lightning, make tritium… Make something that works.”

      • In effect a restating of Rossi’s views on the only way to get CF noticed by the public at large. Elforsk shows however that even scientific proof of ‘anomalous’ heat is not enough – it will have to be something so big it can’t be ignored by politicians and media without openly revealing an agenda to suppress, or demonstrating a profound inability to process reality in the case of ‘skeptical’ scientists.

        I don’t think even the extended tests apparently now under way will do more than cause a few ripples when the results are released, and will be quickly lost in a sea of trivia, spin and disinformation. All my chips are on an accessible 1MW+ pilot generator plant being ‘unveiled’ some time in the next year or two, but the chances of this happening may only be ‘evens’ at best.

        In any case it would now be too late to stop the new UK nuclear fission bandwagon that is being so relentlessly driven forward by Cameron for his own reasons, in the face of the deep opposition of a large majority of the population. So long as the MSM continues to ignore or misrepresent the true scale of the damage being done by Fukushima, and to hide the fact that over time, similar disasters at other nuclear plants are inevitable, probably only another major financial collapse (seemingly not at all unlikely in the fairly near future) can derail the process at this stage.

        • GreenWin

          Peter, I have been focused lately on making sure the nuke village here in the States gets a clear signal its time is up – at least with re to new nuke plants. We have had an unprecedented FOUR plant closings in one year, with 30 more on the chopping block. Nat gas has pretty well evaporated any potential profits from nukes and Wall Street has turned away.

          The rest of the West has pretty well decided to phase out nukes and follow the German model. The Japanese former PM just announced opposition to nukes (New York Times.) But it has been an uphill battle since the 2005 “renaissance” led by a certain large JV managing much of the USA’s nuke security:

          Have lovely Fall evening fortyniner.

          • fortyniner

            GreenWin – it looks like EDF’s man in the UK will ensure that there is no repetition of their failure in Italy. Interestingly, Cameron’s first significant actions in office were to visit EDF’s HQ in France, and to cancel all funding for the 14MW Severn barrage scheme.

          • P.S. Thanks – we did have a lovely late autumn evening last night. Beer and a BBQ – naturally!

        • Omega Z


          Until the Fuel Rods are in place & fired up, there’s still the possibility of stopping it.
          Only 1 Component is missing for a strong argument to Stop it.

          Just a single Working E-cat coupled to a generator.
          Given the time to completion of a Nuclear plant(5 YEARS plus), this is still a VERY strong possibility.

          They will no doubt Argue it is still needed in the interim period.

          Opponents can counter-
          Fukushima. More on Fukushima to be disclosed. It’s not over.
          Future Cost- Of disposal of Spent Fuel.
          Future Cost- Of disposal of the Radioactive System/Plant, Site Cleanup.
          Soon to be non-competitive Energy costs that people wont purchase. No Profits. EVER.
          One can also point out the possibility of Drop in replacement factor.
          Retrofitting can be expensive, but cheaper then the alternatives left to them.
          NOTE: Once this plant has been powered Up, this option is removed due to the radioactive components.
          As WE know, A minority can over ride a majority as in building this plant.
          BUT, A super Majority can kick them to the Ditch.
          The Promise of Clean, Safe, Cheap Energy will provide that Super Majority.
          It Ain’t Over till it’s Over. The Fat Lady hasn’t sang yet…

          • OZ – all true, and I’m still hoping that the wheels will fall off the instant our present unelected ‘government’ is finally kicked out of office. However this is a huge project and many people’s careers (and ‘pensions’ in the case of some politicians) will now depend on it. As momentum gathers, these things get harder and harder to stop, especially in this case where a vast multinational investment will go into concrete and steel right up front. Retrofitting might just be an option before the reactors are built, but I can’t see CF being able to produce the sort of centralised outputs concerned (32GW in the case of HPC) for decades.

            All the rational arguments against have already been presented and are routinely dismissed without consideration, and in fact the whole basis of the ‘need’ for this installation is based on political manipulation rather than any actual facts ( Cameron and his fascist-inclined cronies are steadily removing all channels for opposition by centralising decision-making in tame institutions and cutting local and district councils right out of the process to ensure that no local voices are heard. To quote GreenWin from a couple of threads back:

            “While the rest of the West is moving on to sustainable energy resources – Cameron’s UK remains mired in the 1960’s vision of nuclear utopia. Perhaps when UK taxpayers realize this debacle will cost them £20bn before producing a single Watt – they will throw these backward visioned leaders out.”

            Unfortunately we have a deep problem with representational democracy here in the UK in that, despite the fact that the population is overwhelmingly against it, all three major parties now support new nuclear fission (the ‘libdems’ having caved in recently under tory pressure and the corruption arising from finally having some power) so we no longer even have the ballot box to turn to. Given all this I’m not terribly hopeful that this idi*cy can be stopped, but if the second financial collapse that is being predicted by many does actually happen soon, this would certainly crimp their style considerably, and just maybe, permanently.

          • Omega Z

            Yes, Their actions lead me to believe there may really be a CO2 problem.

            They apparently aren’t getting enough Oxygen to their Brains.

  • GreenWin

    Mats Lewan suggesting three good reasons to expand financing of LENR research and development.