Rossi on the E-Cat Factory

For a long time Andrea Rossi has spoken about preparing for mass production of E-Cats and has mentioned on numerous occasions the preparation of a factory where E-Cat product would be manufactured. On the Journal of Nuclear Physics a reader expressed some concern over the fact that critics are pointing out that while Rossi had talked about the factory for a long time, it still has never been revealed. The question put to Rossi was, “what happened to the factory? Were any E-cats ever produced there?”

Rossi’s response:

In our factory we are completing our cycle of validation and R&D, as well as we are manufacturing reactors for the plants. The results of the validation can be positive or negative, and I cannot give so far precise answers on the issue. The mass production line, for which parts have already been prepared, will be set up and put in operation when the mass production will begin, but, as I said many times, we cannot begin a mass production until the R&D and validation work will be completed. About the pathos: they are not our problem.

Rossi has never stated that a commercial production line has been completed, rather he has talked about preparing one — and again here he says that parts have already been prepared ready for mass production, ready to roll if and when successful validation has been completed.

It would seem to me from this response that Rossi is currently doing his R&D work in the same facility where Industrial Heat is producing the reactors (Rossi said he was personally not involved in production any more), and that most probably this facility is in Research Triangle Park, in North Carolina.

It’s interesting to me that Rossi keeps saying that nothing commercial can happen until the R&D and validation has been completed. Why would that be? I think one reason is that if successful, this latest round of tests (if successful) could be the trigger that finally demonstrates the potential of the technology, and have the ability to attract the attention of people with the funds that will be required for mass production.

  • Gerard McEk

    To me it looks quite logical that IH does not start real production until the E-cat is proven and does what it has been promised to do. It is good that the tested prototype validation includes the mass production line.

    • Donk970

      Indeed, there’s no better way to kill a company than to rush an untested and unreliable product to market. I was recently employed by a company that did just that and earned such a bad reputation that it killed the company. It’s frequently the case that investors get impatient and want to start making profits now so they ignore the engineers and rush to market.

    • BroKeeper

      In Rossi’s mind it has been already validated. He has been using the year long testing time as a hedge to perfect it for market. I believe he’s confident most of the bugs will be resolved by the time the 3rd party validates it early this spring, then the assembly line begins to roll along with the media presses.

      • Allan Shura

        At the risk of losing some market share. There are at least 3 or 4 self looped generator systems on the market in the last 2 months but no word yet of growing sales with the price point just low enough to be below grid rates but not low enough yet to make consumers jump.

        • BroKeeper

          ECATs?

          • Allan Shura

            No. I am making a reference to the market that are or have the potential to compete with cold fusion products
            including the e-cat. Some are starting to show up in the market and some could also in the very near future
            produce as much energy without pollution at a low cost less than 1 cent a kilowatt hour. In the past Rossi had
            stressed that his plan was to produce on such a scale that the cost would be to low for competitors to match.
            They should not be discouraged given the fact that the timelines are being stretched beyond past predictions
            of milestones for an easily available product.

          • BroKeeper

            Allan, you have my attention. Please elaborate on said products if it is other than solar or wind generation. Are there websites you could add? Thanks Bro.

          • Allan Shura

            Yes http:www.peswiki.com has reported on a number of self looped category generators or other over unity electrical devices and or configurations with 3 or 4 on the market now for sale.

          • BroKeeper

            Sorry for my persistence Allan, but could you list those for sale?

          • Allan Shura

            According to the site and the sites of the sellers:

            1) Vitaly Shilov, Russia

            2) Valley Energy Star, Romania
            3) Magnacoaster, Canada

            4)Platinum Invests Group, Spain (special order)

            5)Mid Tech, USA

            6)Evolutions in energy, Brazil (Brazil only)

          • BroKeeper

            Thank you Allan. I have been aware of the closed self-looping magnetic phenomena devices, but had not realized they were in market for sale. The price on most are way too expensive compared to the promises of what the E-Cat would sell for, the physical wearing appears could be high and energy density is not as high as LENR devices. But, again who knows the evolution of things it may surpass all other free energy devices. Cool.

  • Gerard McEk

    To me it looks quite logical that IH does not start real production until the E-cat is proven and does what it has been promised to do. It is good that the tested prototype validation includes the mass production line.

    • Donk970

      Indeed, there’s no better way to kill a company than to rush an untested and unreliable product to market. I was recently employed by a company that did just that and earned such a bad reputation that it killed the company. It’s frequently the case that investors get impatient and want to start making profits now so they ignore the engineers and rush to market.

    • Steve H

      If you consider how long it took for domestic gas boilers to reach the efficiency and reliability levels that we presently enjoy – it is probably going to be a while before that point is reached with this new technology.
      However, I do concede that innovation appears to be following an exponential path and therefore the timeframe for development will probably be shorter.

    • Brokeeper

      In Rossi’s mind it has been already validated. He has been using the year long testing time as a hedge to perfect it for market. I believe he’s confident most of the bugs will be resolved by the time the 3rd party validates it early this spring, then the assembly line begins to roll along with the media presses.

      • Allan Shura

        At the risk of losing some market share. There are at least 3 or 4 self looped generator systems on the market in the last 2 months but no word yet of growing sales with the price point just low enough to be below grid rates but not low enough yet to make consumers jump.

        • Brokeeper

          Are you referring to ECATs?

          • Allan Shura

            No. I am making a reference to the market that are or have the potential to compete with cold fusion products
            including the e-cat. Some are starting to show up in the market and some could also in the very near future
            produce as much energy without pollution at a low cost less than 1 cent a kilowatt hour. In the past Rossi had
            stressed that his plan was to produce on such a scale that the cost would be to low for competitors to match.
            They should not be discouraged given the fact that the timelines are being stretched beyond past predictions
            of milestones for an easily available product.

          • Brokeeper

            Allan, you have my attention. Please elaborate on said products if it is other than solar or wind generation. Are there websites you could add? Thanks Bro.

          • bachcole

            I want to see that also.

          • Allan Shura

            Yes http:\www.peswiki.com has reported on a number of self looped category generators or other over unity electrical devices and or configurations with 3 or 4 on the market now for sale.

          • Brokeeper

            Sorry for my persistence Allan, but could you list those for sale?

          • Allan Shura

            According to the site and the sites of the sellers:

            1) Vitaly Shilov, Russia

            2) Valley Energy Star, Romania
            3) Magnacoaster, Canada

            4)Platinum Invests Group, Spain (special order)

            5)Mid Tech, USA

            6)Evolutions in energy, Brazil (Brazil only)

          • Brokeeper

            Thank you Allan. I have been aware of the closed self-looping magnetic phenomena devices, but had not realized they were in market for sale. The price on most are way too expensive compared to the promises of what the E-Cat would sell for, the physical wearing appears could be high and energy density is not as high as LENR devices. But, again who knows the evolution of things it may surpass all other free energy devices. Cool.

  • Charles

    I am getting boring because I always keep going back to the refrain that I believe that Rossi has succeeded in everything except being able to control – with finality and exactness – the operation of the E-Cat. That would include starting it when desired, setting levels and keeping them constant (nearly – at least), and shutting it down when and as desired. Time will tell whether I am right or not. For the sake of showing my means for believing this, I would point out that I have experience in control engineering for motor systems and production experience for the world’s greatest atomic submarine control inertial guidance systems. From what I have seen on Google Earth (TM) of the IH plant in the Research Center, it is inadequate in size for large scale production of the E-Cat.

    Industrial Heat LLC is located in a near perfect place to obtain great academic consultants that could help them with the Control Engineering aspects that I have just mentioned, namely, NC State, Duke and UNC.

    My personal feeling is that the world is on the edge of massive change because of LENR.

    • AB

      Somebody should visit the plant and make some photos. Where is it located by the way?

      • Charles

        Industrial Heat has their address listed as 6025 Triangle Drive Raleigh NC. That is the Research Triangle and the Press Release was done from Research Triangle. They may have factories elsewhere, if the do I haven’t found out about them (it) yet.

      • observer

        You realize that if you publicize Industrial Heat’s location, you will be empowering Gary Wright to force a regulatory show down. It would be a tragedy if the 6 month tests had to be unplugged due to malicious meddling.

      • Iggy Dalrymple
    • Paul

      If you know where the IH plant is you are the first and posting the address or the Google map link welcomed. Nobody knows at the moment.

    • Donk970

      The real Hob Goblin of CF has always been reliability and controllability. It’s what got the whole field of CF research squashed flat in 1990 and it continues to dog the heels of CF researchers to this day. For commercialization the product must be 100% reliable/controllable and safe. It could be years before anyone really gets to that point but I have no doubt at all that it will.

  • Charles

    I am getting boring because I always keep going back to the refrain that I believe that Rossi has succeeded in everything except being able to control – with finality and exactness – the operation of the E-Cat. That would include starting it when desired, setting levels and keeping them constant (nearly – at least), and shutting it down when and as desired. Time will tell whether I am right or not. For the sake of showing my means for believing this, I would point out that I have experience in control engineering for motor systems and production experience for the world’s greatest atomic submarine control inertial guidance systems. From what I have seen on Google Earth (TM) of the IH plant in the Research Center, it is inadequate in size for large scale production of the E-Cat.

    Industrial Heat LLC is located in a near perfect place to obtain great academic consultants that could help them with the Control Engineering aspects that I have just mentioned, namely, NC State, Duke and UNC.

    My personal feeling is that the world is on the edge of massive change because of LENR.

    • AB

      Somebody should visit the plant and make some photos. Where is it located by the way?

      • Charles

        Industrial Heat has their address listed as 6025 Triangle Drive Raleigh NC. That is the Research Triangle and the Press Release was done from Research Triangle. They may have factories elsewhere, if the do I haven’t found out about them (it) yet.

      • observer

        Cherokee Investment Partners specialize in recovering industrial real estate. Industrial Heat could be located anywhere.

        • bachcole

          LOL!! Right on! Good insight.

      • observer

        You realize that if you publicize Industrial Heat’s location, you will be empowering Gary Wright to force a regulatory show down. It would be a tragedy if the 6 month tests had to be unplugged due to malicious meddling.

        • bachcole

          I agree 1000%.

      • Iggy Dalrymple
    • Paul

      If you know where the IH plant is you are the first and posting the address or the Google map link welcomed. Nobody knows at the moment.

      • Charles

        Sorry Paul. Industrial Heat’s address is listed as 6025 Triangle Drive Raleigh NC. If you don’t have Google Earth just Google it and then free download it. You’ll love it.

        Industrial Heat may have mfg facilities elsewhere, but if the do I don’t know about that.

        • Frank Acland

          Thanks Charles, I have seen this address mentioned previously, but not sure what the source of that is. The SEC documents I have seen have them listed at 111 E Hargett St, Raleigh, NC — the same address as Cherokee.
          Got a link? Thanks very much.

    • Donk970

      The real Hob Goblin of CF has always been reliability and controllability. It’s what got the whole field of CF research squashed flat in 1990 and it continues to dog the heels of CF researchers to this day. For commercialization the product must be 100% reliable/controllable and safe. It could be years before anyone really gets to that point but I have no doubt at all that it will.

  • Just found out John Huizenga died. Believe it or not Peter Hagelstein had only good things to say about him and how he scrutinized the early CF data unbiased (from Ruby’s site http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UUH78efhknLR-cuL9w2hVcUQ&v=5hyMIJLhfPI#t=1494 go to the 24:35 mark) It’s funny, I’ve been angry with him for years until PH diffused my perspective. A few days after I realized there was another side to him, I find out he died. Rest in peace John Huizenga.

    • ecatworld

      Thanks, Barry. I put a link up to his obituary on ECW today. We know of his involvement in CF history, and even if people disagree with his contributions in this area, there was more to his career. For example, I just learned today he helped identify two new elements which were added to the periodic table of elements: ensteinium (99) and fermium (100). I am sure he will be missed by his family and friends, and I extend my condolences to his loved ones.

    • Gerard McEk

      What the academic world has done with Pons and Fleischmann was unforgivable. I have heard from insiders that no positive test was to be published. I have read the article of P&F nearly 25 years ago, in fact I have still got it (as an relic) and in my view it was quite convincing then. I was extremely disappointed as nothing came out later on, but with the todays developments I am very exited. No doubt Huiznga’s role was not too big at that time.

    • MaxToll

      Huizenga was a good scientist. The skepticism he brought into the CF debate up front was a good thing. Thats what every good scientist should do. Things started turning south when it became a crusade to debunk it. This is where skepticism becomes a religion and blinds you from investigating with an open mind. Recall the 60 minutes piece where he summarily dismissed everything without even looking at the data.

  • Just found out John Huizenga died. Believe it or not Peter Hagelstein had only good things to say about him and how he scrutinized the early CF data unbiased (from Ruby’s site http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UUH78efhknLR-cuL9w2hVcUQ&v=5hyMIJLhfPI#t=1494 go to the 24:35 mark) It’s funny, I’ve been angry with him for years until PH diffused my perspective. A few days after I realized there was another side to him, I find out he died. Rest in peace John Huizenga.

    • Frank Acland

      Thanks, Barry. I put a link up to his obituary on ECW today. We know of his involvement in CF history, and even if people disagree with his contributions in this area, there was more to his career. For example, I just learned today he helped identify two new elements which were added to the periodic table of elements: ensteinium (99) and fermium (100). I am sure he will be missed by his family and friends, and I extend my condolences to his loved ones.

    • Gerard McEk

      What the academic world has done with Pons and Fleischmann was unforgivable. I have heard from insiders that no positive test was to be published. I have read the article of P&F nearly 25 years ago, in fact I have still got it (as an relic) and in my view it was quite convincing then. I was extremely disappointed as nothing came out later on, but with the todays developments I am very exited. No doubt Huiznga’s role was not too big at that time.

    • MaxToll

      Huizenga was a good scientist. The skepticism he brought into the CF debate up front was a good thing. Thats what every good scientist should do. Things started turning south when it became a crusade to debunk it. This is where skepticism becomes a religion and blinds you from investigating with an open mind. Recall the 60 minutes piece where he summarily dismissed everything without even looking at the data.

  • Jimr

    Interesting interview with Defkalion on Oilpice.com. First estimate of a price I have seen.

  • Jimr

    Interesting interview with Defkalion on Oilpice.com. First estimate of a price I have seen.

  • Daniel Maris

    Great news.

    Definite progress. Let’s hope we learn more from Industrial Heat very soon.

  • MaxToll

    I dont understand the hoopla about the magnificent factory and mass production if the “negative result” is still a possibility. And until there is a theory that explains all this, I doubt that certification will ever happen. In that respect, I like Mills approach better.

    • bachcole

      We know exactly how the automobile works, but I just read that Toyota is recalling some. Edison did just fine without any theories.

      • US_Citizen71

        It is not that Edison didn’t use the scientific method, theory included, he just tended to occupy himself with theories that were more practical and testable than an exotic equation, such as what happens when you do x to y. His research style was the shotgun method try as many variations on a testable theory as possible. I’m sure he had a theory of what might happen otherwise he wouldn’t have done each of the experiments or at least his assistants wouldn’t have.

    • Pekka Janhunen

      “Negative result” could mean, for example, that one or some of the HotCats tested failed during testing while others continued. If a theory is essential for certification, it must be a widely accepted one.

  • bachcole

    “negative result” does NOT mean that the phenomena is not proven or the thing does not put out mega-excess heat. It means that for some reason it cannot at this time be sold to the public and therefore should not be manufactured. What would happen if 1 in a 1000 exploded, like shrapnel all over the place? What if lots of cold water shut down the reaction. They could be testing for all sort of things when Rossi says “negative or positive”.

    • Allan Shura

      Back to the old drawing board.

  • bachcole

    I don’t want to know where Industrial Heat is, and I don’t want anyone telling me where it is. And I would hope that those who care about the future would not look for where Industrial Heat is, and should they find it, not tell anyone.

    “About the pathos: they are not our problem.” I knew that Rossi was a conservative. He is not responsible for other people’s emotional issues. (:->) Rossi is accountable for his actions, not for other people’s issues.

  • Rich P

    Perhaps a simple explanation ties back to the patents we’ve been told are being prepared, the results of the latest round of testing may be the needed supporting evidence to push the patents through to approval in the US.

  • Bernie Koppenhofer

    I like how he keeps confirming the March time period for research, testing confirmation

    • LENR G

      If 23 Mar (25th ann. P&F announcement) passes without something interesting happening I’m going to be disappointed.

      With all the players in the field __somebody__ has to jump on that one.

  • Bernie Koppenhofer

    I like how he keeps confirming the March time period for research, testing confirmation

    • If 23 Mar (25th ann. P&F announcement) passes without something interesting happening I’m going to be disappointed.

      With all the players in the field __somebody__ has to jump on that one.

  • Dods

    Sorry this is off topic but feel its important enough to post here. So please sign this because without a free internet I doubt this site would even exist

    https://secure.avaaz.org/en/internet_apocalypse_pa_eu/?r=act

    Maybe Frank you could sticky this or make it a Topic all of its own.

  • bachcole
    • Sugar battery??? LOL. SCAM! SCAM!

      Oh wait.

    • Omega Z

      Sweeeet

  • Ophelia Rump

    Mod, I think your concluding line is needlessly pessimistic.

    “It’s interesting to me that Rossi keeps saying that nothing commercial can happen until the R&D and validation has been completed. Why would that be? I think one reason is that if successful, this latest round of tests (if successful) could be the trigger that finally demonstrates the potential of the technology, and have the ability to attract the attention of people with the funds that will be required for mass production.”

    You simply cannot mass produce until you have finished designing the product and validating it’s safety, or you have a warehouse full of useless garbage when you make any modification to your design.

    You cannot even finalize your production line or, you could also end up with a production line requiring costly modification and possibly partial replacement. An automated production line can cost many millions of dollars and getting it so wrong that it requires complete rebuild or replacement would be the death of almost any company.

    The E-Cat is currently in a Closed Beta, or pre-release. Depending upon whether any are actually fielded.

    How Many E-Cats, actually fielded at this time?

  • Kim

    Randall Mills likes to write scientific theory and produce 3d cad drawings.
    Rossi likes to get his hands dirty like Graham Bell.

    What really disgusting is that key people in key positions are holding every
    thing up. We all know it.

    Respect
    Kim

  • Kim

    Randall Mills likes to write scientific theory and produce 3d cad drawings.
    Rossi likes to get his hands dirty like Graham Bell.

    What really disgusting is that key people in key positions are holding every
    thing up. We all know it.

    Respect
    Kim

  • Miles

    It seems to be a common theme / goal that all the readers at eCatWorld just want a product to come to market. We want to hear and see progress or read the latest news or results. We want Rossi & BLP/Mills to be accountable. We seem to be clinging on every word in an over analysing way. We all hope to have dirt cheap energy costs & have a car that travels 300,000 km on a single charge. The Movie “Elysium” reminds me in some ways of what this technology can do. If a product does come to market and Rossi does have a production line ready, then I see the wars ending over water /oil / gas /electricity & food. But if they can’t deliver, I hope I’m not alive in 60 years. Life will get tough, over population leads to over used resources. Hoping for some inspiration in 2014. Still sitting n waiting.

    • GreenWin

      Miles, I don’t know if you are Dr Melvin Miles, but you raise good points. BTW, Mel Miles just published a letter from a guy at ARPA-E re their “Open Innovative Development In
      Energy-Related Applied Science (Open Ideas) issued September 27, 2013.” The guy, Dane Boysen does not run the show at ARPA-E. Dr. Cheryl Martin does. “Dr. Martin is responsible for oversight of the Agency. Additionally, Dr. Martin leads ARPA-E’s Technology-to-Market program, which helps breakthrough energy
      technologies succeed in the marketplace.”

      I hope Mel Miles who is a CF pioneer re-approaches ARPA-E and writes to Dr. Martin. LENR is precisely the area of research ARPA-E should be generously investing in.

  • Allan Shura

    Back to the old drawing board.

    • Sanjeev

      Next obvious question is – is that factory located in Technology Innovation Park in Baoding China?

  • LENR G

    Sugar battery??? LOL. SCAM! SCAM!

    Oh wait.

  • Hyper

    For some reason people seem to miss the obvious part of what is going on. When he says negative it’s most likely not negative about the COP or that his process works etc. It all comes down to sustainability. When you buy a car battery or a sola panel it has ratings that allow you to compare the value of your investment, which includes installation etc against other another manufacture or alterative energy source.
    So basically It’s not difficult to guess that Rossi is trying to stress test his designs and be able to make a claim of what it’s output is over a period of time within some margin of error. As in if you buy or install this system will it work safely for 1 year or 10 years. While it work world wide or only work correctly in cold climates etc. So when it finally arrives as a the first generation product, people/customers/companies will have some idea of what they are getting even if it appears 1/10 the cost of the nearest equivalent heat source / energy source such as solar, what’s the point if it only works for 3 months and has to be disposed. That would be a disaster for the company to have to damage control even small scenario where it only happened to 10% of their customers.

    Mark

  • Bill2024

    Frank, what does Rossi mean by the word “validation” when he refers to “our cycle of validation and R&D”? Perhaps you could ask him on the JONP to explain what it means and give some specific examples to show how it applies to the E-Cat work being done. Also how does he know when the “validation” is completed? That is to say what are the criteria of “validation” that needs to be met? Bill

  • Omega Z

    Sweeeet

  • Lelien

    Did Rossi talk about any protocol for validation?
    How the hell is anyone to build a factory *before* having validated his product? There is no way! That makes me even more skeptical.

    Since he told us he can reproduce his LENR experience he didn’t give any clue yet. What is the point of this? I can’t see any, as such a secret is realy realy easy to keep during a test.

    Why does he use so many manipulation tricks if he is so sure of his ecat?

    Why would does no gouvernement care if it was true? We are now sure that CIA or NSA have competent spies now and that their eyes are everywhere (thanx to Snowden).

    The more I read about eCat, the more I become skeptical.

  • mytakeis

    A successful E-cat: not like a car with programmed obsolescence. It needs to be as reliable as an electric motor in a washing machine or refrigerator, or as reliable in generating heat as a radiant electric heater. Obviously LENR exists, and yes, validating a continuously operating product, or its sustainability is necessary. Also, validating a iron-clad patent for the product may be a challenge that needs accomplishing prior to production line start up. This is 2014! The more the world changes via open source internet connectivity, the more you can’t keep world ignorance afloat. I’m on the list, and patiently waiting for long-life e-cats, to be made. And I heartily concur that I too ‘see the wars ending over water /oil / gas /electricity & food.’ Francis should invite Andrea for a Vatican visit, their goals converge.

  • HS61AF91

    A successful E-cat: not like a car with programmed obsolescence. It needs to be as reliable as an electric motor in a washing machine or refrigerator, or as reliable in generating heat as a radiant electric heater. Obviously LENR exists, and yes, validating a continuously operating product, or its sustainability is necessary. Also, validating a iron-clad patent for the product may be a challenge that needs accomplishing prior to production line start up. This is 2014! The more the world changes via open source internet connectivity, the more you can’t keep world ignorance afloat. I’m on the list, and patiently waiting for long-life e-cats, to be made. And I heartily concur that I too ‘see the wars ending over water /oil / gas /electricity & food.’ Francis should invite Andrea for a Vatican visit, their goals converge.

  • Sanjeev

    Next obvious question is – is that factory located in Technology Innovation Park in Baoding China?

    • Julian Becker

      The answer to this is maybe NO, it could also be in Nanjing, Jiangsu Province which is closer to Shanghai

      I have found this article in Chinese. With automatic Google translation it looks like that Mr. Darden did not only meet with people in Baoding but also with people in Jiangning, Nanjing. It also mentions a “McDonald Cherokee Investment Development Corporation” in it. They plan to build “innovation demonstration garden” in the Jiangning south of Nanjing, capital of Jiangsu province.

      To cut things short here is the automatic translation I got as well as the link.

      http://www.jiangning.gov.cn/jnkxygzdt/90092.htm

      Yang met with U.S. Macdonald guests Cherokee Investment and Development CompanyAuthor: Jiangning Science Park Date :2012 -01-16 15:55:56 Views: 329

      Recently, the Provincial Committee and Party Secretary Yang met with the chairman of the U.S. Joint McDonald Cherokee Investment Development Corporation Thomas Dutton, the two sides plan to build an international (US) emerging industry innovation demonstration garden for the exchange negotiations, Municipal Committee, District Committee Secretary Zhou Qian, Party Committee, Deputy Mayor Wang Lei, Gaoxinyuan Party committee secretary, director of the CMC Zhouyu Gang attended the meeting.

      It is understood that the preparation of the International (China-US) emerging industrial innovation demonstration park, to be organized by the Chinese Ministry of Science and Technology Policy Committee, led by the White House, set up a “China-US emerging industry investment company”, a joint American Foundation for Innovation and Technology Park, American MacDonald Group companies, more than 100 U.S. Small Innovative Enterprises USA Cherokee fund companies associated with the California Institute of C2C innovation, industrial innovation Emerging Europe Fund, the integration of the domestic Peking University, Tsinghua University, Tongji University and Yale University, Stanford and other university resources to conduct a joint government emerging industries of strategic research cooperation.

      Yang and his party for Thomas Dutton welcomed. He said that Nanjing is one of China’s four famous ancient capital, is one of the four major cities in China Science and Education Center, the number of resident population and the number of college students graduate tops in the country, rich in science and human resources. Meanwhile, Nanjing, location, transportation advantages, there is Asia’s largest railway hub and airmail hub, with the country’s major international hub airport, played undertake Shanghai, Anhui radiation important role. Currently, the Nanjing Science Park incubator being through science and technology investment and financing system, the history of science talent and cultural advantages into development advantages. North Carolina has the technical and biological aspects of medical research experience, the two sides to build new industries and the establishment of Innovation Demonstration Park Branch Chong fund, in full compliance with industry-oriented conditions and advantages of Nanjing, Nanjing biotechnology can fully release the personnel and clinical resources advantage, hoping the two sides orderly pace of cooperation and achieve mutual benefit and win-win. Yang stressed 江宁智 energy grid, wind power equipment and other industries among the nation hope that both sides can seek more opportunities for cooperation, expand areas of cooperation, share opportunities in the new round of development.

      Thomas Dutton said MacDonald Cherokee Investment and Development Company attaches great importance to cooperation and Nanjing, Nanjing excellent ecological environment, a good industrial base attracted a large number of innovative entrepreneurs. North Carolina’s famous biomedical platform “Research Triangle Park” was initiated by the government, government-led organizations, parties and build new industries innovation park is operational experience should “Research Triangle Park” is brought to Nanjing, Nanjing and talent ecological advantages into full overlay, building future-oriented platform for the development of new industries. I hope the two sides in technology finance, build high-tech industrial park areas to deepen partnership to achieve common development.

      The site also has some images of the meeting showing Darden with local party officials from Nanjing.

      Cheers,

      Julian

      P.S. Nanjing used to be my home for a year and I know the city quite well. Now I live in Changzhou not far from it. About one hour by train.

  • Ophelia Rump

    Industrial Heat has raised ten million of funding out of 20 million dollar first round, as of last month.
    That is considerable. I expect the Chinese are doing their own R&D and other preparation, under license.
    Whether that license has anything to do with the initial 10 million, is unknown.
    Once the production and sales start to roll, there will be mega opportunities for licensing and distribution.
    Factories will sprout like mushrooms.

  • Ophelia Rump

    Industrial Heat has raised ten million of funding out of 20 million dollar first round, as of last month.
    That is considerable. I expect the Chinese are doing their own R&D and other preparation, under license.
    Whether that license has anything to do with the initial 10 million, is unknown.
    Once the production and sales start to roll, there will be mega opportunities for licensing and distribution.
    Factories will sprout like mushrooms.