Research Triangle Foundation Announcement Monday about 'Centerpiece' Project. [Update: Livestream Link]

I thought I’d put up a thread about something that a number of people have mentioned here today, which is a news conference scheduled by the Triangle Park Foundation for Monday where a major announcement is supposed to be made. In the Triangle Business Journal, Lauren K. Ohnesorge, writes that Bob Geolas, CEO of the Research Triangle Foundation said that the announcement will be worth watching, and the Triangle Park Foundation has made a statement saying that they would “unveil a project that will be the centerpiece of the Research Triangle Park’s plans for an innovative future.”

The Research Triangle’s Facebook page suggests Monday’s announcement is ‘One of the biggest announcements in @TheRTP’s history’, and an announcement on Eventbrite waxes poetical:

Calling all makers, thinkers, doers and dreamers:
this one’s for you, the never-disbelievers.
On February third, it’s going to be a big day;
— please come on out, if you can find a way.

At 11:00, visit Research Triangle Park headquarters
Bring along your friends, bosses and co-workers.
There’ll be cookies and coffee; hope and good cheer.
As we announce a surprise & make our plans clear.

Of course followers of the LENR story are likely to be interested in this announcement because Industrial Heat LLC, who now own the rights to the E-Cat, are based out of the Research Triangle in the Raleigh-Durham area of North Carolina (although their exact whereabouts there is still unidentified) — however personally I am not convinced that this announcement will be dealing with Industrial Heat or the E-Cat.

I have no special information about this event one way or another, but I would have expected that if there was going to be a major announcement regarding Industrial Heat and the E-Cat, it would take place after the long-awaited third party report is published. However, I might be surprised like I was when Industrial Heat put out its press release last week. I do wonder why the Research Triangle Foundation would be hyping this event so much. If it’s not to do with a technology as revolutionary as the E-Cat, what else could it be?

I guess we’ll be watching and waiting on Monday.

UPDATE: Here’s a link to a page where a livestream of the event should be available:

http://rtp.org/bigannouncement

  • LENR G

    While I won’t rule out this event including Industrial Heat/LENR at some level, I think people should read this article from September before connecting any dots.

    http://www.bizjournals.com/triangle/print-edition/2013/09/27/convergence-center-in-middle-of-rtps.html?page=all

  • While I won’t rule out this event including Industrial Heat/LENR at some level, I think people should read this article from September before connecting any dots.

    http://www.bizjournals.com/triangle/print-edition/2013/09/27/convergence-center-in-middle-of-rtps.html?page=all

    “Imagine a place, a mix between a Guggenheim, a World’s Fair and the Epcot Center,” Geolas says. “You’ll have something unlike anything anyone is doing in the world today.”

    • bachcole

      Probably.

  • Ophelia Rump
    • bachcole

      The word “Convergence” does not show up anywhere in the article.

  • friendlyprogrammer

    Hype is key to media. They also promise refreshments to lure the media. Cold Fusion could stand alone without refreshments.

    Maybe they will build something with a 3D printer.. Hmm.. Maybe they will have robot trains transporting people to their cars or bringing food. Guess we will see. I’m learning not to cross my fingers as much as the tech will come in its own time.

  • friendlyprogrammer

    Best wild guess… — They will build a shuttle of some futuristic design that will bring people to and from their neighboring International Airport (next door neighbor).

    @ LENRG below,
    Epcot and World fair had a Monorail, and nobody has an airport shuttle to their facility.

    Hype is key to media. They also promise refreshments to lure the media. Cold Fusion could stand alone without the cookies.

    Maybe they will build something with a 3D printer.. Hmm.. Maybe they will have robot trains transporting people to their cars or bringing food. Guess we will see. I’m learning not to cross my fingers as much as the LENR tech will come in its own time.

    The Research Triangle Park
    12 Davis Dr
    North Carolina, NC 27703

    Monday, February 3, 2014 from 11:00 AM to 12:00 PM (EST)

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Research_Triangle_Park

    Wikipedia link does not even list Industrial heat as a tenant on their very long list.

    IBM has their 2nd largest facility there. My guess is that they have a robot train touring the grounds or transporting to/from the airport which they suggested 6 months ago.. My second guess would be IBM is downsizing their India location and so this will be their largest location in the world.

    But I’d love it to be LENR.

  • Facepalm

    Off topic: Method and apparatus for generating energy through inertial confinement fusion
    https://data.epo.org/publication-server/pdf-document?PN=EP2680271%20EP%202680271&iDocId=8121939&iepatch=.pdf

  • MasterBlaster7

    I’ll put this up there with “Hey, maybe Obama will say something about LENR and Rossi in the State of the Union address.”

    I like the epcot/tomorrow world announcement idea….but I am going to go with revolutionary solar powered sex toy. haha.

  • Ophelia Rump

    Maybe they will power their new Centerpiece with LENR, and astound the world.
    You don’t lead with your big finish, so lets wait and see.
    This sounds like a three ring circus of technology. Very cool even without LENR.
    Power it with “Cold Fusion” and you have pure awesome.

  • stefan

    The question is how far has the patent writing come on their side and how certain results IH have at the moment.

    If the needed patents have been written, and if enough results are ready in such a form that you get good summary
    judgement from independent sources, it is quite good strategy to announce it in order to be able to collect capital for further
    investment and attract partners, with out selling out cheaply. Also you typically do not want this to be spread in secret channels
    if you are serious. So depending on these unknowns an announcement of some strength can perhaps be anticipated from now on
    and maybe 3-4 month’s into the future. Now, having the patents ready means that IH and Charokee most certainly speak about this
    amazing results with quite many important people. Also it looks like an event has been planed for some time. Of cause if
    the chief of this event hear about this breakthrough, and by know the technology must have proven itself quite well, so the
    words that this chief pick up about the IH should be of such a magnitude that, at least I would, would try to incorporate a technology
    announcement of the ECAT technology together with the original event.

    So because that the ECAT at this time should be obviously amazing for the inner circle and that the patents is probably written, and also looking at the selected wordings in the teaser, I would if I was living nearby, go to the event, because it is such a high probability for it to be a historical event.

    Cheers!

  • Stefan Israelsson Tampe

    The question is how far has the patent writing come on their side and how certain results IH have at the moment.

    If the needed patents have been written, and if enough results are ready in such a form that you get good summary
    judgement from independent sources, it is quite good strategy to announce it in order to be able to collect capital for further
    investment and attract partners, with out selling out cheaply. Also you typically do not want this to be spread in secret channels
    if you are serious. So depending on these unknowns an announcement of some strength can perhaps be anticipated from now on
    and maybe 3-4 month’s into the future. Now, having the patents ready means that IH and Charokee most certainly speak about this
    amazing results with quite many important people. Also it looks like an event has been planed for some time. Of cause if
    the chief of this event hear about this breakthrough, and by know the technology must have proven itself quite well, so the
    words that this chief pick up about the IH should be of such a magnitude that, at least I would, would try to incorporate a technology
    announcement of the ECAT technology together with the original event.

    So because that the ECAT at this time should be obviously amazing for the inner circle and that the patents is probably written, and also looking at the selected wordings in the teaser, I would if I was living nearby, go to the event, because it is such a high probability for it to be a historical event.

    Cheers!

    • Ophelia Rump

      The Centerpiece seems to be getting quite a bit of attention from the White House.

      Obama visited Triangle Park this month.
      I do not believe this is a coincidence.
      I have to believe they gave the President of the United States their grandest vision of the future. I doubt they would fail to mention that they have R&D and a manufacturing for LENR.

      Durham Herald Sun-Jan 14, 2014
      President to visit Vacon’s Research Triangle Park site

      • Stefan Israelsson Tampe

        Yes, Obama was most likely informed and ECAT has all of what it takes to initiate such a statement, and
        the leaders can make it happen. But it’s not a certain thing.
        * The technology park is large, there might be other focus areas of interest.
        * Rossi maintain the attitude to wait for the third party tests to finish.
        * Patent issues may not be resolved yet.

        Else it wold be a no brainier that people would like to make a spin on the ECAT technology.

  • BroKeeper

    If one concludes with ‘grandiose’ hopes from:
    >Rossi’s experience acquiring material, tools, resources at one’s beckon call;
    >Concentration of broad spectrum high scientific endeavors within the industrial park area.
    >Bordered by leading technological universities and colleges;
    then this could have provided an environmental opportunity to evolve a new visionary way of cooperative and collaborative strategy between the scientific driven industries in the area.

    An agreement between these entities could have been formed to afford an open source of resources, material and ideas to share among these progressive innovation developers and academia. To me this paradigm shift in business practices of unionized R&D directed by the creation of a new centerpiece ‘Convergence’ Center to mediate between such entities would be much more news worthy than just one great device.

    To showcase this new visionary capitalistic cooperative, the latest developmental results of the new world game changing E-Cat fire along with the other new innovations within the NC Triangle Park could convince the rest of the world of its success and a new hope for all. Rossi’s “Dream Team”.

  • Brokeeper

    If one concludes with ‘grandiose’ hopes from:
    >Rossi’s experience acquiring material, tools, resources at one’s beckon call;
    >Concentration of broad spectrum high scientific endeavors within the industrial park area.
    >Bordered by leading technological universities and colleges;
    then this could have provided an environmental opportunity to evolve a new visionary way of cooperative and collaborative strategy between the scientific driven industries in the area.

    An agreement between these entities could have been formed to afford an open source of resources, material and ideas shared among these progressive innovation developers and academia. IMO a paradigm shift in business practices of unionized R&D mediated by the newly created ‘Convergence’ Center centerpiece would be much more news worthy than an announcement of just one great device.

    To showcase this new visionary capitalistic cooperative, the latest developmental results of the new world game changing E-Cat fire along with the other new innovations within the NC Triangle Park could convince the rest of the world of its success and a new hope for all. Rossi’s “Dream Team”.

  • stefan

    The ECAT has been demoed many times and was most certainly in enough good state for a demo when
    it was tested by Levi et al. The problem was that one could question the independence. By know that
    should be a moot point, the testers have had maybe 1 month time, to verify the old tests with their own
    set of meters (that was the main issue before) and a few more significant names to testify that it was correctly
    done. By know the inner circle knows if we have a new source of energy and most probably can get enough
    statements that it works (just by pulling their connections) for it to be ok to make a public statement.

    For it to be a successful product, that may be too early to judge, for it being a scientific fact, it is too early, but
    if you want to get good partners at a good deal you need to attract them and a reasonable good technical
    announcement is not a bad idea, you may not get the die hard skeptics on board though. On the other hand
    If you keep the profile too low and try to work in silence you may not progress fast enough and get into backwater
    compared to DGT BLP Brillouin etc.

    Is BLP looking foolish, by you perhaps, but you are not an investor! And BLP has been good at seeking financial
    supporters. That’s speeks a lot more than a anonymous voice here. Also let’s see what tickles out from the
    supposed demo, they are claiming a fantastic COP, this most certainly challenge the other players.

  • stefan

    Yes, Obama was most likely informed and ECAT has all of what it takes to initiate such a statement, and
    the leaders can make it happen. But it’s not a certain thing.
    * The technology park is large, there might be other focus areas of interest.
    * Rossi maintain the attitude to wait for the third party tests to finish.
    * Patent issues may not be resolved yet.

    Else it wold be a no brainier that people would like to make a spin on the ECAT technology.

  • Sanjeev

    Demonstration of the High Energy SF CIHT Technology Full length Presentation (uploading soon), (2 hours 15 minutes)
    (Not yet live)

  • Sanjeev

    Demonstration of the High Energy SF CIHT Technology Full length Presentation (uploading soon), (2 hours 15 minutes)
    (Not yet live)

    • Thanks Sanjeev. Three hours later nothing yet. Oh well maybe something to wake up to.

      • artefact

        I think the “2 hours 15 minutes” is just the length of the video.

  • bachcole

    I’m telling you, if it is not about LENR+, then they will be running to their thesauruses when it is.

  • bachcole

    For me, at this point, I would give LENR about a 5% chance of tomorrow’s announcement having anything to do with LENR.

  • Mr. Moho

    While I doubt this announcement will be related to anything LENR, when they mentioned “never-disbelievers”, that reminded me of this movie: http://coldfusionnow.org/the-believers-the-movie/

    I guess we’ll find out in a few hours.

    • LENR G

      I did some searching for the term “never-disbelievers” yesterday and came up empty. If it’s from literature or pop culture it’s not clear where.

      It sure is an odd turn of phrase.

      Maybe a big clue. Maybe just happenstance.

      Maybe a Disney Store. j/k

  • Stanny Demesmaker
    • Daniel Maris

      Could be plenty of other things no one’s thought about – but if it’s LENR I’ll be cheering to the rafters! 🙂

      • Stanny Demesmaker

        A “historic” announcement, a week after a company from Raleigh NC announced that they are going to sell cold fusion reactors ? I don’t see alot of other options. (There are no guesses in the media)

        The newsletter of Industrial heat also called for collaboration.

        A controversial topic like cold fusion needs this type of an announcement. If you would announce that before the meeting, you would create an hostile environment from the beginning.

  • Stanny Demesmaker

    Here is the attendee list:
    https://www.eventbrite.com/e/calling-all-doers-and-dreamers-and-never-disbelievers-tickets-10452205829#m_1_200

    “TLDR? On Feb 3 – 11:00 am, you’re invited to come see us at 12 Davis Drive, RTP HQ, to hear a historic announcement over cookies and coffee.”

    What else then LENR can this be?

  • artefact

    I think the “2 hours 15 minutes” is just the length of the video.

  • Andre Blum

    TheRTP ‏@TheRTP Jan 31
    Thanks! We’ll be livestreaming our announcement Feb 3, 11:00 am. URL will be @ top of: http://rtp.org/bigannouncement . @Citiscope @TriangleRegion

  • psi2u2

    Do we know anyone who is attending? Frank, how are we going to get an update on this?

    • BroKeeper

      Interesting, no representative from Cherokee Investments is on the attendee list. If one is part of the announcement are they then not considered an attendee?

  • Andre Blum

    TheRTP ‏@TheRTP Jan 31
    Thanks! We’ll be livestreaming our announcement Feb 3, 11:00 am. URL will be @ top of: http://rtp.org/bigannouncement . @Citiscope @TriangleRegion

    • bachcole

      Andre, what does @Citiscope @TriangleRegion mean?

      • Andre Blum

        My entire post was a cut-and-past from twitter. Like hash-marks are used to denote a keyword, at-signs are used to denote a twitter username. so @Citiscope and @TriangleRegion are twitter users, and I am not sure why they were mentioned in the tweet.

  • psi2u2

    Do we know anyone who is attending? Frank, how are we going to get an update on this?

  • Guest

    I remember when E-catworld readers/visitors spread that awkward rumor about a NASA announcement and it turned out to be a music video about a Purple Ninja.

    So what is indicating this is not another unicorn chase?
    * Obama have once visited this research park?
    * Obama have mentioned this research park in the state of the union speech?
    * Industrial Heat have some kind of research and developing project going on over there?

    was that more or less correct?

    I doubt we will see anything like Purple Ninja this time around – but surely it is a hype with no give away

  • gioj

    “never-disbelievers”……..

    a well-chosen term, curious, from a semantic point of view, or perhaps better,
    from a “philosophical” point of view; a double negative that does not mean exactly the
    opposite truth: I believe!

    and so the best explanation, Rossi gives to me, answering my question ”

    Andrea Rossi

    February 2nd, 2014 at
    1:55 PM

    Gio:

    A scientist must never disbilief himself, but always put in discussion his
    work: I must exercise epochè against known knowledge, but , by coherence, I
    must exercise epochè also against myself.

    Warm Regards,

    A.R.

  • gioj

    “never-disbelievers”……..

    a well-chosen term, curious, from a
    semantic point of view, or perhaps better,

    from a “philosophical” point
    of view; a double negative that does not mean exactly the

    opposite truth: I believe!

    and so the best explanation, Rossi gives to me, answering my
    question ”

    Andrea Rossi

    February 2nd, 2014 at

    1:55 PM

    Gio:

    A scientist must never disbilief himself, but always put in discussion his

    work: I must exercise epochè against known knowledge, but , by coherence, I

    must exercise epochè also against myself.

    Warm Regards,

    A.R.

  • gioj

    “never-disbelievers”……..

    a well-chosen term, curious, from a
    semantic point of view, or perhaps better,

    from a “philosophical” point
    of view; a double negative that does not mean exactly the

    opposite truth: I believe!

    and so the best explanation, Rossi gives to me, answering my
    question ”

    Andrea Rossi

    February 2nd, 2014 at

    1:55 PM

    Gio:

    A scientist must never disbilief himself, but always put in discussion his

    work: I must exercise epochè against known knowledge, but , by coherence, I

    must exercise epochè also against myself.

    Warm Regards,

    A.R.

  • Freethinker

    I guess we see soon enough.

    Most if not all attending this forum thinks (or so I conjecture) that LENR, or any incarnation there of, is worthy of an EVENT like this (or at an even greater magnitude).

    But it all boils down to expectations. We want it. We want to believe it is about it. But is it?

    The “never-disbelievers” could be about those knowing better than not believing in the in the future of RTP. It could be that what they announce is just that some real estate will be filled by some big company, doing some new kewl stuff. Creating spin-off business around Raleigh, and increased status for RTP.

    In trying to create a buzz the slightly enigmatic invite is created.

    I guess in an hours time I will be either looking stupid or very wise.
    I would love to be proven wrong.

    Bon chance.

  • Freethinker

    I guess we see soon enough.

    Most if not all attending this forum thinks (or so I conjecture) that LENR, or any incarnation there of, is worthy of an EVENT like this (or at an even greater magnitude).

    But it all boils down to expectations. We want it. We want to believe it is about it. But is it?

    The “never-disbelievers” could be about those knowing better than not believing in the in the future of RTP. It could be that what they announce is just that some real estate will be filled by some big company, doing some new kewl stuff. Creating spin-off business around Raleigh, and increased status for RTP.

    In trying to create a buzz the slightly enigmatic invite is created.

    I guess in an hours time I will be either looking stupid or very wise.
    I would love to be proven wrong.

    Bon chance.

  • Andre Blum

    Hope to be proved wrong, but I don’t expect this has anything to do with E-Cat / Industrial heat. It does not make sense to me somehow. Even if working, and ready for an announcement, the E-Cat is not likely to immediately require the whole research triangle to be supporting it. And reasoning in reverse: if ready for an announcement, it is not likely to first announce via this channel.

  • Andre Blum

    Hope to be proved wrong, but I don’t expect this has anything to do with E-Cat / Industrial heat. It does not make sense to me somehow. Even if working, and ready for an announcement, the E-Cat is not likely to immediately require the whole research triangle to be supporting it. And reasoning in reverse: if ready for an announcement, it is not likely to first announce via this channel.

  • Andre Blum

    TheRTP ‏@TheRTP 36m
    We’ll be Tweeting a livestream URL to today’s 11:00 announcement shortly. @_JulieTerry is on it.

  • Andre Blum

    TheRTP ‏@TheRTP 36m
    We’ll be Tweeting a livestream URL to today’s 11:00 announcement shortly. @_JulieTerry is on it.

  • Andre Blum

    The announcement is about redevelopment of the park.

    • Freethinker

      Yupp…. No ECAT there …

  • Andre Blum

    The announcement is about redevelopment of the park.

    • Freethinker

      Yupp…. No ECAT there …

  • Robert Ellefson

    So far, it sounds like nothing more than a real-estate development announcement. A big one, the kind that gets politicians salivating about enhanced tax revenues, bragging rights, etc.

  • bachcole

    Well, that was a dud. But it was only a dud because I got my hopes up, even if only 5% of full-on enthusiasm. I woke up this morning thinking what if Bob Geolas is a conservative Christian and what if he knows Vaughn, then the news and enthusiasm for LENR+ could travel a lot faster, and I let my enthusiasm and hope grow. But, perhaps I was looking for reasons to hope. Dang! So I guess it is back to bickering about whether there is a conspiracy of rich people holding us poor victims down or if HOH = HHO or if AGW is true, etc.

    • Brokeeper

      Yeah, next time we hear of a big important announcement coming we’ll think: Oh yeah, yawn.

    • MasterBlaster7

      If it is mainstream, never ever ever get your hopes up. Two recently; the State of the Union Address and this one. You aren’t going to see anything big ‘mainstream’ until you have a ‘bloom energy moment; my term. That is when you install one of these, at lets say Google server farm, and it works as advertised. Then the worm will turn. In the case of LENR, I think it will be a stranded asset coal power plant, bought, and retrofitted with LENR tech. Once that starts pumping electricity to the grid….then you can expect something big ‘mainstream’ but not till then.

      Did you think that Bob Geolas being a conservative Christian would ‘help’ the spread of LENR tech? What is the logic there?

      • bachcole

        JT Vaughn is a seriously hardcore conservative Christian. If they went to the same church, then it would be natural for them to get together.

  • E-CAT suomi

    Dissapointing video, I new that they would announce investing news but I was believing that they would announch big deal with Industrial Heat to manufacture e-cats there but I guess cold fusion news lately has not been on the spot.

  • E-CAT suomi

    Dissapointing video, I new that they would announce investing news but I was believing that they would announch big deal with Industrial Heat to manufacture e-cats there but I guess cold fusion news lately has not been on the spot.

  • David Linebarger

    I was looking forward to this but I was not overly enthusiastic. I didn’t think about it too much but when I got up today and checked to see that LENR was not involved. I am sure that we will be getting the good news soon again. No biggie.

  • BroKeeper

    Yeah, next time we here of a big important announcement coming we think: oh yea, yawn.

  • psi2u2

    : (

  • Andre Blum

    My entire post was a cut-and-past from twitter. Like hash-marks are used to denote a keyword, at-signs are used to denote a twitter username. so @Citiscope and @TriangleRegion are twitter users, and I am not sure why they were mentioned in the tweet.

  • MasterBlaster7

    If it is mainstream, never ever ever get your hopes up. Two recently; the State of the Union Address and this one. You aren’t going to see anything big ‘mainstream’ until you have a ‘bloom energy moment; my term. That is when you install one of these, at lets say Google server farm, and it works as advertised. Then the worm will turn. In the case of LENR, I think it will be a stranded asset coal power plant, bought, and retrofitted with LENR tech. Once that starts pumping electricity to the grid….then you can expect something big ‘mainstream’ but not till then.

    Did you think that Bob Geolas being a conservative Christian would ‘help’ the spread of LENR tech? What is the logic there?

  • gioj

    http://www.bizjournals.com/triangle/blog/2014/02/unc-president-outlines-universities.html

    …While no “firm commitments” have been made(cit.),….

    therefore lacked something!

  • gioj

    http://www.bizjournals.com/triangle/blog/2014/02/unc-president-outlines-universities.html

    …While no “firm commitments” have been made(cit.),….

    therefore lacked something!