Solar Hydrogen Trends CEO Konstantin Balakiryan Comments on Hydrogen Production Process

The following comment by Konstantin Balakiryan, founder and CEO of Solar Hydrogen Trends was submitted on the earlier thread about the SHT press release. I thought it should have its own thread.

Dear Colleagues,

I am closely following all the discussions on multiple forums.

I really like your judgments and their proximity to understanding the processes that occur in reality in the hydrogen reactor “Symphony 7A”.

Unfortunately, according to the existing ethics in the scientific community, the authors are not encouraged to discuss about any research results with the media before they are published in scientific journals.

However, in order for you to understand what a great discovery GOD gave to us all please try to find answers
in the following questions:

1. If the working substance in the reactor is water, how come the output is almost only hydrogen?

2. After splitting water where do molecules of oxygen disappear?

3. What role in stunning efficiency of “Symphony 7A” plays a collective excitation of nucleons in the nuclei of atoms of oxygen?

4. Is it possible at a rate of 0.5 kW energy hour and at operating temperature 60 degrees centigrade, to have a nuclear fission and fusion?

5 . To produce 1kg of hydrogen it is necessary to split 9 liters of water, then how or in what way in this hydrogen reactor “Symphony 7A”, it takes only 1 liter?

Sincerely,
Konstantin Balakiryan
PhD, Professor

  • Bento

    any links??

  • Bento

    any links??

  • LENR G

    This one is starting to smell rank.

    First he invokes GOD and then throws a bunch of what would be scientific miracles in our face and says do your own research. HA!

    The only way they have what they say (if I understand their claims of 1 liter water to almost 1 liter of pure hydrogen) is if they found a way to fission the oxygen nuclei all the way down to single protons with their little Symphony box. This is sooooooo far outside what is understood to be possible and would involve incredible amounts of energy that I will not pay them any more attention.

    Truly a prove it or GTFO situation. They might as well be claiming they found a way to teleport to the Moon and back.

    • LENR G

      My cryptic curse word acronym was removed. To paraphrase… this is a “prove it or please leave us alone” situation.

    • bachcole

      I agree about his use of “GOD” and the rest of the sentence, like perhaps he read a few posts here and got the idea that we all genuflect (and forget about critical thinking) as soon as someone uses the word “god”.

      I’m sorry, but perhaps there was a correction between when some of you guys posted and I am writing this. I see 9 liters of water to 1 kg. of hydrogen clearly and distinctly.

      • LENR G

        #5 Seems to say you’d think it’d take 9 liters of water to get 1 liter of hydrogen, then how come we can do it with only 1 liter of water?”

        Maybe I’m reading it wrong or it’s a language thing.

        If he’s saying they can extract hydrogen from water efficiently then ok lets see what scientific papers and commercial products emerge. If he’s saying he transmutes water into mostly hydrogen then he’s teleported to the Moon.

  • This one is starting to smell rank.

    First he invokes GOD and then throws a bunch of what would be scientific miracles in our face and says do your own research.

    The only way they have what they say (if I understand their claims of 1 liter water to almost 1 liter of pure hydrogen) is if they found a way to fission the oxygen nuclei all the way down to single protons with their little Symphony box. This is sooooooo far outside what is understood to be possible and would involve incredible amounts of energy that I will not pay them any more attention.

    Truly a prove it situation. They might as well be claiming they found a way to teleport to the Moon and back.

    • My cryptic curse word acronym was removed. To paraphrase… this is a “prove it or please leave us alone” situation.

    • bachcole

      I agree about his use of “GOD” and the rest of the sentence, like perhaps he read a few posts here and got the idea that we all genuflect (and forget about critical thinking) as soon as someone uses the word “god”.

      I’m sorry, but perhaps there was a correction between when some of you guys posted and I am writing this. I see 9 liters of water to 1 kg. of hydrogen clearly and distinctly.

      • #5 Seems to say: “you’d think it’d take 9 liters of water to get 1 liter of hydrogen, then how come we can do it with only 1 liter of water?”

        Maybe I’m reading it wrong or it’s a language thing.

        If he’s saying they can extract hydrogen from water efficiently then ok lets see what scientific papers and commercial products emerge. If he’s saying he transmutes water into mostly hydrogen then he’s teleported to the Moon.

        • bachcole

          I take it that the 1 liter of H2O ==> 1 kg of H2 was a typo or misunderstanding by some idiot. But, I still have SHT on my 2 out of 0 to 100 scale.

  • AlanSmith

    I have got to say that this is too good to be true. But seeing as they are not asking anyone (we know of) for money…let it play some more. If they are rogues, they are (sadly) not alone.

    • Ask yourself this. If you are the CEO of a company that managed to pull off this incredible — I mean really holy moly incredible — technological feat, would you be trolling forums and making brash, defensive, cryptic posts or would you be spending your time on more serious business and scientific pursuits?

  • Andreas Moraitis

    According to the test protocol, not only hydrogen, but also oxygen, nitrogen and apparently some water (“moisture”) have been detected. Even if the 1 kg claim were true, how could you explain the additional mass? The only reasonable explanation seems to be that in addition to the water other chemicals are consumed (presumably in high quantities). But then they should say right away that they produce 1 kg H2 from 1 kg H2O plus something else.

    • bachcole

      I’m sorry, but the name said 1 kg. of hydrogen from 9 kg. of water. He has corrected the previous nonsense. I am not defending him. I am attacking your inability to read.

      • Andreas Moraitis

        You can interpret his question in different ways. My interpretation was that you usually need 9 liters, while the reactor consumes only 1 liter.

  • Andreas Moraitis

    According to the test protocol, not only hydrogen, but also oxygen, nitrogen and apparently some water (“moisture”) have been detected. Even if the 1 kg claim were true, how could you explain the additional mass? The only reasonable explanation seems to be that in addition to the water other chemicals are consumed (presumably in high quantities). But then they should say right away that they produce 1 kg H2 from 1 kg H2O plus something else.

    • bachcole

      I’m sorry, but the name said 1 kg. of hydrogen from 9 kg. of water. He has corrected the previous nonsense. I am not defending him. I am attacking your inability to read.

      • Andreas Moraitis

        You can interpret his question in different ways. My interpretation was that you usually need 9 liters, while the reactor consumes only 1 liter.

        • Konstantin Balakiryan

          Thank you!

  • Gerard McEk

    Dear Konstantin, do you know it yourself? What you are telling us is impossible, so explain it to us, please!

    • bachcole

      Gerard, all his numbered sentences are all questions. You’re the one who is supposed to answer his questions. And anyway, he said that the process takes 9 liters of water to get 1 liter of Hydrogen, which is not impossible.

      But don’t get the idea that I believe him. Nuclear transformation (a deliberately nebulous term) at 60 degrees C (140 degrees F) does seem unlikely. But I am ready to be convinced, but with a demonstration, not with pronouncements.

      • Gerard McEk

        He says: “To produce 1kg of hydrogen it is necessary to split 9 liters of water,
        then how or in what way in this hydrogen reactor “Symphony 7A”, it takes
        only 1 liter?”
        I did not check if the quantity “1kg H2 out of 9 litres of H2O” is right. But assuming that is true, the second part of the sentence assumes another H2 source. Perhaps he got a hidden bottle of 8 litres H2 somewhere, or maybe moister in the air?
        But as you say, let him convince us by producing 1000 kg H2 out of 1000 litres water in a proper demo of his Symphony 7A reactor.

      • E_man

        Answers to questions!?
        1. Mr.Balakiryan found method to separate hydrogen from oxygen ?!
        2. Oxygen escaped to athmosfere?!
        3 Oxygen serves as catalyst?!
        4. No (or I do not believe in fusion-fision in this case)?!
        5. Good question.
        Could I be right Mr. Balakiryan ?
        Thanks for answer.

  • Gerard McEk

    Dear Konstantin, do you know it yourself? What you are telling us is impossible, so explain it to us, please!

    • bachcole

      Gerard, all his numbered sentences are all questions. You’re the one who is supposed to answer his questions. And anyway, he said that the process takes 9 liters of water to get 1 liter of Hydrogen, which is not impossible.

      But don’t get the idea that I believe him. Nuclear transformation (a deliberately nebulous term) at 60 degrees C (140 degrees F) does seem unlikely. But I am ready to be convinced, but with a demonstration, not with pronouncements.

      • Gerard McEk

        He says: “To produce 1kg of hydrogen it is necessary to split 9 liters of water,
        then how or in what way in this hydrogen reactor “Symphony 7A”, it takes
        only 1 liter?”
        I did not check if the quantity “1kg H2 out of 9 litres of H2O” is right. But assuming that is true, the second part of the sentence assumes another H2 source. Perhaps he got a hidden bottle of 8 litres H2 somewhere, or maybe moister in the air?
        But as you say, let him convince us by producing 1000 kg H2 out of 1000 litres water in a proper demo of his Symphony 7A reactor.

        • bachcole

          I am surprised that we are spending so much time with this dude, really. When I see a demo, then perhaps he will garner a little more of my interest.

  • Robert Ellefson

    These riddles are like school-yard taunting and teasing. The implications of this technology, if accurately described, are profoundly important. Exactly what “existing ethics” would prevent you from providing at least a meaningful description of your process? Priority claims? Patent applications? Are you sure that it is not possible for you to provide a meaningful description of the process without relying on such profoundly opaque riddles and marketing doublespeak? I doubt it. I suspect that if there is indeed protectable IP then you would not be relying on such vague non-explanations as you are. Instead I suspect the process is so “non-extraordinary” from a historical perspective that you are planning to rely exclusively on trade secrets and obfuscation. My first reaction on reading the initial announcement was that this sounds like an evolution of the work of Stanley Myers, perhaps with new process additions or enhancements. Please, I beg of you, find a way to reserve just enough trade secret of your process to slow down copycats/maintain a technology advantage, but provide enough information for meaningful evaluation and at least a partial replication of the process. The “old ways” of science and technology development are not only broken, they are also quite harmful to society in cases such as this. Please, I beg of you, find a new way forward; don’t perpetuate the same institutionalized failures that have created the ongoing 25-year tragedy of Cold Fusion to date. Share knowledge, not teasers!

    • bachcole

      “if accurately described”

    • This is the email address that prof. Balakiryan used to reply to my email requesting further info. You could try addressing your questions to him, but in view of the content of the obviously generic reply, I wouldn’t hold out much hope of further enlightenment.

      Kayaran@aol.com

  • Fortyniner

    This is the email address that prof. Balakiryan used to reply to my email requesting further info. You could try addressing your questions to him, but in view of the content of the obviously generic reply, I wouldn’t hold out much hope of further enlightenment.

    Kayaran@aol.com

  • US_Citizen71

    Personally I am filing this one under elaborate hoax/joke until further information appears. The picture of a piece of bottling machinery on their website combined with a CEO that prefers riddles to information makes it very difficult for me to take this claim seriously.

  • US_Citizen71

    Personally I am filing this one under elaborate hoax/joke until further information appears. The picture of a piece of bottling machinery on their website combined with a CEO that prefers riddles to information makes it very difficult for me to take this claim seriously.

  • Ophelia Rump

    OK Prof, I’ll bite, Here are my answers to your questions.

    1. If the working substance in the reactor is water, how come the output is almost only hydrogen?
    A: The oxygen would have to be transmuted into hydrogen, or you are completely mistaken about the end product.
    Tough choice. Final answer reserved.

    2. After splitting water where do molecules of oxygen disappear?
    A: See above, transmutation or error.

    3. What role in stunning efficiency of “Symphony 7A” plays a collective excitation of nucleons in the nuclei of atoms of oxygen?
    A: Wait, what?

    4. Is it possible at a rate of 0.5 kW energy hour and at operating temperature 60 degrees centigrade, to have a nuclear fission and fusion?
    A: Both? Woo hoo, new world record room temperature Fission Fusion combined reaction, Yes baby Yes!

    5 . To produce 1kg of hydrogen it is necessary to split 9 liters of water, then how or in what way in this hydrogen reactor “Symphony 7A”, it takes only 1 liter?

    A: Wormhole siphoning to a parallel universe comprised entirely of hydrogen?

  • Ophelia Rump

    OK Prof, I’ll bite, Here are my answers to your questions.

    1. If the working substance in the reactor is water, how come the output is almost only hydrogen?
    A: The oxygen would have to be transmuted into hydrogen, or you are completely mistaken about the end product.
    Tough choice. Final answer reserved.

    2. After splitting water where do molecules of oxygen disappear?
    A: See above, transmutation or error.

    3. What role in stunning efficiency of “Symphony 7A” plays a collective excitation of nucleons in the nuclei of atoms of oxygen?
    A: Wait, what?

    4. Is it possible at a rate of 0.5 kW energy hour and at operating temperature 60 degrees centigrade, to have a nuclear fission and fusion?
    A: Both? Woo hoo, new world record room temperature Fission Fusion combined reaction, Yes baby Yes!

    5 . To produce 1kg of hydrogen it is necessary to split 9 liters of water, then how or in what way in this hydrogen reactor “Symphony 7A”, it takes only 1 liter?

    A: Wormhole siphoning to a parallel universe comprised entirely of hydrogen?

  • E_man

    Answers to questions!?
    1. Mr.Balakiryan found method to separate hydrogen from oxygen ?!
    2. Oxygen escaped to athmosfere?!
    3 Oxygen serves as catalyst?!
    4. No (or I do not believe in fusion-fision in this case)?!
    5. Good question.
    Could I be right Mr. Balakiryan ?
    Thanks for answer.

  • Obvious

    Catalytic (carbon) oxidation of aluminum to aluminum hydroxide and releases lots of H2. Aluminum hydroxide plus nitric acid makes aluminum nitrate plus water and more hydrogen (depending on mixture of components). Recombine the water into the beginning. If enough heat is created then nitric acid can be made from heating air enough to combust nitrogen into nitric acid when combined with water vapor (steam).
    Maybe something like that?

  • Obvious

    Catalytic (carbon) oxidation of aluminum + water to aluminum hydroxide and releases lots of H2. Aluminum hydroxide plus nitric acid makes aluminum nitrate plus water and more hydrogen (depending on mixture of components). Recombine the water into the beginning. If enough heat is created then nitric acid can be made from heating air enough to combust atmospheric nitrogen and oxygen into nitric acid when combined with water vapor (steam).
    Maybe something like that?

  • Obvious

    I note that the letter quoted in this thread subject article was submitted to many sites where discussions were held on this SHT news release.

  • Obvious

    I note that the letter quoted in this thread subject article was submitted to many sites where discussions were held on this SHT news release.

  • Obvious

    Advanced Plasma Industries made similar claims in 2011, but seem to have moved on to turning the product into hydrocarbon fuels now.

    http://www.planetforward.org/idea/plasma-based-hydrogen-generation-from-sea-water

  • Obvious

    Advanced Plasma Industries made similar claims in 2011, but seem to have moved on to turning the product into hydrocarbon fuels now.

    http://www.planetforward.org/idea/plasma-based-hydrogen-generation-from-sea-water

  • observer

    One liter of water has a mass of 1 Kg. You claim to generate 1 Kg of hydrogen from 1 Kg of water.

    Are you claiming to be able to convert the 8 protons and (on average) 8 neutrons in each oxygen atom into 16 free protons?

    Or is there some other hydrogen containing consumable we are not taking into account?

    Does the name “Symphony 7A” refer to the Halogens in the periodic table?

    Is there a conservation law being broken when your questions produce more questions than answers?

  • observer

    One liter of water has a mass of 1 Kg. You claim to generate 1 Kg of hydrogen from 1 Kg of water.

    Are you claiming to be able to convert the 8 protons and (on average) 8 neutrons in each oxygen atom into 16 free protons?

    Or is there some other hydrogen containing consumable we are not taking into account?

    Does the name “Symphony 7A” refer to the Halogens in the periodic table?

    Is there a conservation law being broken when your questions produce more questions than answers?

  • Ophelia Rump

    You are too gracious bachcole. The professor was not arcane, and likely not a professor either.

    Google his name and you get this little gem.

    An Evening Stroll with Mason | Kourtney Kardashian

    http://www.kourtneykardashian.com/2010/10/an-evening-stroll-with-mason/‎

    Oct 12, 2010 – Konstantin Balakiryan /0. Dear Kourtney, I have an idea for a new line of jeans named ”Salvador Dali” by Kourtney Kardashian. This innovative …

    • Obvious

      I saw that too. I was wondering if it was the same person as Constantine Balakiryan, PhD, Professor… of considerable oil spill posting… but decided I didn’t care.

  • SolarHydrogenTrends

    I’m an old, conservative and old fashion man.

    So I can’t break the tradition of the scientific community which I belong to for more than
    40 years.

    I ask all participants to wait a little more for theoretical justification for anomalous
    processes that occur in hydrogen reactor “Symphony 7A”.

    All the data that we have published is within statistical error of 2-3%.

    As you know every scientist cherishes its scientific reputation and his life .

    Result of 1Lit. of water = 1 kg of hydrogen is a Damoklov sword for our reputation (sharp sword hovering over our heads), our lives and the lives of people we love. We are not stupid to risk the most valuable things
    we have.

    To understand how serious this is, please remember the fate of Stanley Meyer,
    Andrea Puharich and Francisco Pacheco, as well as a dozen other mysterious
    deaths of researchers working on the hydrogen problem.

    For all those who we throw the challenge, their own profits are more important than
    happiness that will bring humanity Great Hydrogen Revolution .

    Sincerely,
    Konstantin Balakiryan
    PhD, Professor