MFMP Progress on New Powder Cell

I chatted with Bob Greenyer at the Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project just recently and he gave me an update about the work they are currently doing on their new powder cell. Below is a report and videos.
We have some really nice videos of the New powder cell and work on the sparker.These really show people what it is like to actually do this stuff and the precautions that need to be taken.

We’re going to  ramp up into “activation zone” – according to Mizuno, Celani, etc., — butwe have not decided yet how much it loaded over last night – but looks like it might have been a lot. We are following what we know of Brian Aherns approach with this and we have a dummy run with larger powder to refer back to. Going to hold at 1W for a little while longer before ramping up to 2W.

– Taking out the powder cell from the rest of its apparatus

http://youtu.be/BVOoHyIJhGM

– Swapping the micro powder (used for the dummy run) with the Quantum Sphere Inc Nano 10nm powder

http://youtu.be/yhXi24UQ1gw

– Preparing to test noise suppression circuitry on acquisition boards intended to run alongside Stoyan Sarg’s Tesla tech based HV sparker

http://youtu.be/Fp3ofBfEQC4

Also – over the last few days – we have done room temperature and “below activation” temperature loading (adsorption and absorption) of the 10nm QSI powder – a stunning pressure reduction was observed. Now approaching the first critical phase of this Nano Ni powder only experiment series.

For more information and access to date files go here: http://www.quantumheat.org/index.php/en/follow/powder-test-cells/374-google-drive-embed-test

  • bachcole

    Let me know when they go over unity and can demonstrate it with input and output. They don’t have to have the Supreme Court of the United States there to insure that they aren’t cheating. I trust them.

  • For those watching the live data I caution that if the excess power calculation rises above zero, that does **not** by itself indicate an over-unity device. The device they are testing could store up energy and then release it in bursts.

    The metric of most interest is the integral of the energy over the duration of the entire experiment (and they don’t show that). If *that* is significantly above zero then they may have triggered over-unity. I say may because you can’t rule out equipment failure or calibration problems until you get similar results repeatedly at several labs.

    So what you should be looking for are sustained periods of significant excess power that last long enough to leave the energy integral strongly positive and hopefully large enough to even rule out any chemical reaction.

    • Mr. Moho

      I’m not getting the impression that the MFMP team is relying on that figure alone to assess whether excess heat is being produced or not. That’s mostly a calculation for convenience purposes that is only as accurate as the calibrations performed, how close operating conditions are to them and how good the calibration formula inputted is, and can give positive values even just by removing power after heating the device for a while – due to the heat temporarily stored by the entire reactor mass.

      I seldom read it being discussed in their blog comment section unless it’s showing weird values – I believe most participants are well aware of its limitations. You have a point that people who are not following them very closely might not know that, however.

      • I wasn’t implying that the MFMP team is doing anything wrong. Just trying to head off some potential confusion on this forum.

      • jousterusa

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    • theBuckWheat

      The only course of action is one of patience, discipline, attention to detail and a solid trail of data. There is a mystery to be solved here, but this mystery is one rooted in physics that remain to be figured out. One thing it is not is magic or a mirage. So I cheer on any team dedicated to practicing sound science. Let the facts speak!

      The implications of usable and commercially viable LENR for improving lives and conditions of all humans cannot be understated.

  • For those watching the live data I caution that if the excess power calculation rises above zero, that does **not** by itself indicate an over-unity device. The device they are testing could store up energy and then release it in bursts.

    The metric of most interest is the integral of the energy over the duration of the entire experiment (and they don’t show that). If *that* is significantly above zero then they may have triggered over-unity. I say may because you can’t rule out equipment failure or calibration problems until you get similar results repeatedly at several labs.

    So what you should be looking for are sustained periods of significant excess power that last long enough to leave the energy integral strongly positive and hopefully large enough to even rule out any chemical reaction.

    • theBuckWheat

      The only course of action is one of patience, discipline, attention to detail and a solid trail of data. There is a mystery to be solved here, but this mystery is one rooted in physics that remain to be figured out. One thing it is not is magic or a mirage. So I cheer on any team dedicated to practicing sound science. Let the facts speak!

      The implications of usable and commercially viable LENR for improving lives and conditions of all humans cannot be understated.

  • Daniel Maris

    Good luck to MFMP – nice to see them finally working with powder.

    Let’s hope they get some clearly positive results.

  • Hope4Dbest

    Go get ’em, guys!

  • clovis ray

    Hi, guys,good work MF/MP, i am always impressed , when we get to watch you guys work.
    good luck, and gods speed, i will be glad when Alan smith gets back from japan, and we get our ECW experiment up and running, i can’t tell you how happy it makes me to be involved in this cutting edge stuff, i have been learning a great lot about this subject, it is so interesting.

  • deleo77

    Interesting quote from Rossi today:

    “Therefore I want to say sound and clear: we have replicated all the existing patents and know hows regarding the LENR and no one of them has manifested a real heat excess with the following exceptions: Ikegami-Petterson system and Brian Ahern System. These are the only two systems that actually gave us evidence of a heat excess. All the other systems that we have reproduced ( and we have reproduced, with huge investments, all of the systems that have been proposed in all the world in the last 10 years) have not given any heat excess evidence…”

    • Ophelia Rump

      That does not mean that the rest do not have something which works. Only that they have not documented a complete working system sufficiently to replicate. I fully believe that most do not have something which works yet. There could be a couple of hidden contenders in the crowd.

  • deleo77

    Interesting quote from Rossi today:

    “Therefore I want to say sound and clear: we have replicated all the existing patents and know hows regarding the LENR and no one of them has manifested a real heat excess with the following exceptions: Ikegami-Petterson system and Brian Ahern System. These are the only two systems that actually gave us evidence of a heat excess. All the other systems that we have reproduced ( and we have reproduced, with huge investments, all of the systems that have been proposed in all the world in the last 10 years) have not given any heat excess evidence…”

    • Ophelia Rump

      That does not mean that the rest do not have something which works. Only that they have not documented a complete working system sufficiently to replicate. I fully believe that most do not have something which works yet. There could be a couple of hidden contenders in the crowd.

      Perhaps AR is trying to steer some of the current or new entries into the race toward these forms of LENR research. Is he being benevolent or subversive?

      Maybe he is just trying to steer some funding toward people he respects, to raise them above the waves. Expect to see those projects suddenly see an influx of funding interest.

      Three possibilities so far, two benevolent one subversive. I will go with benevolent until I see evidence otherwise.

      • friendlyprogrammer

        Maybe he just wants to try their methods with his catalyst.

  • friendlyprogrammer

    I thought Andrea Rossi was going to keep us informed on everyone’s progress

  • Mariusz

    Prof Bolotov from Ukraine says their heating element based on CF boiled water 4 times quicker then oridinary (with 99% efficiency). So measurments don’t have to be expensive and long lasting 🙂