Blacklight Power Raises Millions in Financing Round

It looks like the recent efforts of Randell Mills and Blacklight Power in reaching out to the public and putting on demonstrations of their technology have been successful from a financial standpoint, at least.

Posted on the BLP website today is the following statement:

“On July 31, 2014, BlackLight Power closed on $11 M in private equity financing that was oversubscribed by $1 M.”

Also, on the BLP web site is an interview conducted by Sterling Allan and John Maguire with Randell Mills. Mills reports that the company is getting closer to commercialization and expresses confidence that they have now have a technological solution using the Sun Cell system which uses photovoltaic conversion system.

He mentions that the Blacklight power team is made up of 20 employees, and they have recently added another engineer. He says that they want to license their technology to all types of businesses with energy needs, and will be using a model where they will give equipment to distributors and they will share revenue from energy sales.

I didn’t hear a projected date for when the first BLP systems will be available commecially, but Mills said again that they have an agreement in place for some kind of energy distribution in Canada.

  • Jonnyb

    Seems BLP are able to raise money more easily than most, surprising as I would put my money with Santilli or Rossi if they would let me and if I had any. Also Jet etc. all seem a better bet in my opinion.

    • Daniel Maris

      Surprising if true, indeed.

  • Jonnyb

    Seems BLP are able to raise money more easily than most, surprising as I would put my money with Santilli or Rossi if they would let me and if I had any. Also Jet etc. all seem a better bet in my opinion.

    • Kwhilborn

      Putting all your money on Rossi would be silly. Even though I am a firm believer in LENR and the ecat there are so many scientific fronts that could “win” this.

      Imagine a company manages to split water fast enough to fuel our cars with water. This is very possible, and might have already been done.

      • Broncobet

        It’s certaintly true that they used to sell pills that you put in your gas tank and then you filled your tank with water and you could drive on the power of the H2 in the water, they still sell the same basic thing,how well do you think that works??

      • mike

        I read about water splitting at Stanford university. no shit.

        • friendlyprogrammer

          Splitting water is how hydrogen is made. It is a process of running electricity through water and the vapor it gives off is Hydrogen.

          This has been done for many years and is accepted science and every university teaches the process.

          For this process to be practical as a car fuel though, the process would need to be done much faster and with stored electricity. This is the concept many are currently researching.

          Splitting water though is standard procedure worldwide.

    • mike

      But Mills had the theory first. Than the experiments to prove the theory. The other are tinkerers in comparison.

  • optiongeek

    Another interesting fact is that Mills has mentioned that the share price was $12,000. We don’t know how many shares have been floated but most startup companies generally, at a minimum, issue 1M sshares; 5M or even 10M is more common. But even at 100k float, that would put the valuation at over $1B.

    • Broncobet

      You can start with ten shares or one share.

      • mike

        yep.

  • Obvious

    A sincere congratulations to Mr. Mills and BLP. Obviously they have something that is interesting enough to some well-heeled folks. Lets hope they use that cash effectively.

  • Obvious

    A sincere congratulations to Mr. Mills and BLP. Obviously they have something that is interesting enough to some well-heeled folks. Lets hope they use that cash effectively.

  • bachcole

    Sorry, but I am still unconvinced. I hope that the investors had enough good sense to do their own testing. Mills seems to have a way of convincing people. I hope that he is doing it because he has the goods, and not because he is an impressive talker.

    • LilyLover

      He’s not an impressive talker. His theory, predictions based thereupon and his product are impressive. That fetches money.

      • bachcole

        Apparently.

    • Job001

      Agreed, Suggest reading his book and spectroscopic research.

      I have not seen any adequate rebuttal from his haters(not you). The best haters explain his work as a clever cover meant to trick below average people. That argument is the “argumentum ad hominem” fallacy and thus not even right nor wrong but truly invalid.

      I neither believe nor disbelieve but make this point, someone who manages to tick off the entire egotistic science community has more going for them then first impressions warrant.

      Standard science has some serious unresolved issues, OTHERWISE we would not need to do research. We wisely spend billions on research of the UNKNOWN, which is bigger than small minded skeptopathetics can possibly imagine, IMO.

      Yes, also agree his demo’s seem primitive, yet they were effective for obtaining funding.

  • curious

    I have a welder too. How can I sell it for a few millions?

    Seriously, Mills’ feat is in convinced people -with more money than sense- that sparks from a welder are LENR reactions. This deal only removes potential funding from legitimate researchers

    • Kwhilborn

      You think it is as bright as a welder because you see it on your monitor? That is a great comparison considering your monitor cannot display blinding lights.

      If a welder was using water as fuel then it would be as impressive yes.

      • Colophon

        Well the fact that people are happily looking at it running with no eye protection other than clear safety goggles is a bit of a clue.

        And it’s not running on water. It’s running on electricity.

    • enantiomer2000

      You are deluded if you think that he just has a welder with some sparks. Many papers from research labs and universities confirm the excess energy. Since you don’t even know that Mills does not believe that his tech is LENR, I don’t think anybody should take you seriously..

      • mike

        I don’t know if LENR is the right word for any of the new excess heat experiments.

    • mike

      Wrong. the legitimate funding is being held back from him. While most all money goes to BAD science.

  • DMA

    The timeline stated at the demonstration was 16 to 18 weeks, so before Christmas for field testable 100 KW units

  • DMA

    The timeline stated at the demonstration was 16 to 18 weeks, so before Christmas for field testable 100 KW units

  • DMA

    The demonstration video has presentations by 3 authenticators, Two from universities and one from ARA a large engineering/testing firm. I found their testimony very convincing as I doubt they could be shills. Googling them confirms their statements of professional status.

    • bachcole

      Seems like excellent authentication with terrible demos. Reminds me of the hundreds of BigFoot sightings but no bones. Only in this case we do have some bones, like maybe a finger bone or two. {No, I am NOT a BigFoot disbeliever, and I am not putting Mills and BLP down. I am merely making an epistemological parallel. Since starting to follow Rossi in October 2011, I feel like I deserve a PhD in epistemology. (:->) }

  • DMA

    The demonstration video has presentations by 3 authenticators, Two from universities and one from ARA a large engineering/testing firm. I found their testimony very convincing as I doubt they could be shills. Googling them confirms their statements of professional status.

    • Er… Nope

      The presentations don’t test the device though. One of them is merely replicating an unexplained temperature rise when mixing two copper compounds! http://www.blacklightpower.com/wp-content/uploads/papers/CrouseDSCReplication.pdf

      Hardly “verification” is it?

    • bachcole

      Seems like excellent authentication with terrible demos. Reminds me of the hundreds of BigFoot sightings but no bones. Only in this case we do have some bones, like maybe a finger bone or two. {No, I am NOT a BigFoot disbeliever, and I am not putting Mills and BLP down. I am merely making an epistemological parallel. Since starting to follow Rossi in October 2011, I feel like I deserve a PhD in epistemology. (:->) }

  • Er… Nope

    Duplicate post.

  • GreenWin

    Many LENR theories center around a lower ground state of Protium. Storms suggests the anomalous energy appears in Nuclear Active areas like tiny cracks in a metal lattice. Ahern insists nano-powders must be <50nm to produce excess energy. These NAEs may play a part in DGT theory, W-L theory and Mills' early (experiments with raney nickel) hydrino theory.

    In another theory, stochastic electrodynamics (SED) interpretation of the hydrogen atom, the ground state is interpreted as effectively equivalent to a classically orbiting electron whose velocity is c/137. University of Colorado and inventors Haisch & Moddel use SED as the basis of their patent on "Quantum vacuum energy extraction," Protium's electron transitions to a lower than ground state in tiny Casimir cavities — due to lower energy density in the cavity.

    Mills' is well known in high tech VC circles populated by hard-nosed investors whose business is technical due diligence. This round was oversubscribed so it appears investor lights have turned green at Blacklight Power.

  • GreenWin

    Many LENR theories center around a lower ground state of Protium. Storms suggests the anomalous energy appears in Nuclear Active areas like tiny cracks in a metal lattice. Ahern insists nano-powders must be <50nm to produce excess energy. These NAEs may play a part in DGT theory, W-L theory and Mills' early (experiments with raney nickel) hydrino theory.

    In another theory, stochastic electrodynamics (SED) interpretation of the hydrogen atom, the ground state is interpreted as effectively equivalent to a classically orbiting electron whose velocity is c/137. University of Colorado and inventors Haisch & Moddel use SED as the basis of their patent on "Quantum vacuum energy extraction," Protium's electron transitions to a lower than ground state in tiny Casimir cavities — due to lower energy density in the cavity.

    Mills' is well known in high tech VC circles populated by hard-nosed investors whose business is technical due diligence. This round was oversubscribed so it appears investor lights have turned green at Blacklight Power.

  • GreenWin

    You sound so bitter. Is it that someone other than you is successful? Or that they did not do it through orthodox science?

  • LilyLover

    He’s not an impressive talker. His theory, predictions based thereupon and his product are impressive. That fetches money.

  • Colophon

    “Cranbury, NJ, USA — BlackLight Power Inc. announced Wednesday the successful testing of a new energy source. The company has successfully developed a prototype power system generating 50,000 watts of thermal power on demand.
    The company is presently in discussion with various engineering and manufacturing firms to to prepare this 50 kW unit for commercial production.”

    Sounds great, right? Oh wait, that story was posted in May 2008.

    Why should we trust them this time when they were making the same promises six years ago?

    • DMA

      maybe the heat generator didn’t make it in the engineering phase2008 wasn’t a great time for venture capital. Look at the video especially the authenticators part, check the patents—don’t assume past failures were due to dishonesty–evaluate the evidence you can find. I have been impressed when I have done these steps and think the chances of this being the real think are better than even.

      • deleo77

        I agree, if you really want to learn about BLP you have to watch the demonstration videos multiple times – ideally with a good set of headphones. You have to read the papers and the slides on their site to understand the science. I am not a scientist, but I spent a lot of time doing all of this before I got it. They have had multiple independent replications from different labs. Some of the scientists who have done replication work for them are at the top of their respective fields. All of the criticisms I have seen on this forum and others have been addressed by Mills. He knows these criticisms better than anyone and has thought about them and hashed them out.

        What company in the exotic energy space is a slam dunk? Not BLP, not IH. But smart people have done major due diligence and have invested. The private equity putting millions into BLP have done a ton of due diligence. If BLP has a working prototype in the field in six months and they do an IPO, I’m I buying that stock.

        • Colophon

          You are not a scientist. Well that’s fine. I am. (Or at least I have a masters in chemistry, I no longer work in the field.) I have watched the videos and studied the presentations and it doesn’t convince me in the slightest. It comes across as being an assemblage of pseudoscience designed to sound impressive to the layman. What I don’t understand is that even the practical specifications for the SunCell, which don’t require science to understand, are clearly totally inconsistent. You simply cannot pack that level of cooling into a tiny box.

          • Stefan Israelsson Tampe

            I can take 100kW of that box as a success as well, that is their target atm. Then when they try to increase the power they could very well hit limits with cooling, so what, it’s still a sucess, they just make the box large to get the heat out properly, as a scientist you seam to be very academic.

            On the other hand I bet you are a clever guy, can you show some example of what you consider pseudoscience, Mills own theory? If so then
            head down to his calculation of the g-factor with 11 correct digits, go backwards and try to find his error, clue there is none. A true scientist would not call Mills theory pseudoscience after that exercise if no tricks is found.

          • optiongeek

            Yes Stefan, truth is a hard thing to move. Mills’ g-factor calculation is both beautiful and true. It can’t be set aside.

          • mike

            No, but they will ignore it. The propaganda machine will try and destroy Mills, because in their eyes he is committing blasphemy.

          • optiongeek

            Did you ever read Carl Sagan’s book “Contact”? The g-factor calculation is like the bit where the astronomer discovers the message hidden in the decimal expansion of pi. It’s a revelation of the underlying structure of the universe.

    • optiongeek

      Mills has explained failure to commercialize prior technology generations. The reaction failed to scale up, which they discovered was due to unfavorable kinetics of the catalyst. Basic research led to breakthrough of using arc current plasmas, which foster negative resistance and chain reaction of the fuel – BOOM. There might be unforeseen engineering complications this time, too. But COP 100 reaction energy balance gives lots of slack to find workarounds as they occur.

    • Ophelia Rump

      “The company has successfully developed a prototype power system generating 50,000 watts of thermal power on demand.”

      Is there a film of the 50,000 watt prototype system generating that much power on demand? How many days continuous run time has it achieved? What did they use for a power sink to test this, 500, 100 watt bulbs perhaps?

      It is not Schrodinger’s statement, it cannot be both true and false at the same time.

      They either have a working 50,000 watt electrical generation system, or they do not.

      • Mark Underwood

        It is true. It’s just that you assume that the 50,000 watts was continuous. The problem is getting the anomalous burst of high power to be sustained. Apparently it couldn’t be sustained and the reaction was self quenching.

        • Colophon

          Almost like a brief electrical arc, you mean…?

          • Mark Underwood

            No. If I recall correctly the 50,000 watts was in the form of a heat spike. Heat would be applied to a powder, a reaction would be initiated, and a huge spike of heat would be measured in the powder mixture. The amount of energy released could not be attributed to any known chemistry. But that was what, six years ago.

          • mike

            More like a brief falsification of quantum physics.

      • Anon2012_2014

        It is 50K watts for 1 mS, i.e. 50 watt seconds. Oh boy.

    • mike

      You don’t have to trust them. Seems you trust the people who taught you that below ground state is unattainable like the 4 minute mile, or flight.

      • bachcole

        I must confess as a certified ignoramus that I find it easier to believe in the hydrino-below-ground-state theory than I do in the Coulomb barrier being breached. This is not to say that either of these theories have much of an impact on my belief in LENR or BLP. My belief is based solely upon the demos and the third party test (Levi, et. al., 2013) and the people reporting the demos and tests.

        What is your (all of you guys) belief based upon.

  • DMA

    maybe the heat generator didn’t make it in the engineering phase2008 wasn’t a great time for venture capital. Look at the video especially the authenticators part, check the patents—don’t assume past failures were due to dishonesty–evaluate the evidence you can find. I have been impressed when I have done these steps and think the chances of this being the real think are better than even.

    • deleo77

      I agree, if you really want to learn about BLP you have to watch the demonstration videos multiple times – ideally with a good set of headphones. You have to read the papers and the slides on their site to understand the science. I am not a scientist, but I spent a lot of time doing all of this before I got it. They have had multiple independent replications from different labs. Some of the scientists who have done replication work for them are at the top of their respective fields. All of the criticisms I have seen on this forum and others have been addressed by Mills. He knows these criticisms better than anyone and has thought about them and hashed them out.

      What company in the exotic energy space is a slam dunk? Not BLP, not IH. But smart people have done major due diligence and have invested. The private equity putting millions into BLP have done a ton of due diligence. If BLP has a working prototype in the field in six months and they do an IPO, I’m I buying that stock.

  • Sanjeev

    Looks like you did not read the slides yet and you are imagining these “problems” in your mind. I highly recommend reading it, especially the specifications part (of the current device, not of the future one – it does not exist).

    Whether it works or not, no one knows, but the plan looks ok to me, its feasible assuming that the basic principle works. Mills has so far taken many millions from investors and produced nothing at all, but the strange thing is not even one of those investors is complaining, they seem to be happy with their investment.

    If these 11m$ also do not produce any visible product, I won’t be surprised, but I’m sure that those who invested did not do so on faith. In today’s world one can hire a team of engineers and scientists easily (or use their own employees) and get a quick and dirty validation done to rule out any trickery. I would do so if I had a million to invest in any unknown tech, I would first spend at least 10K in validations.

    Its strange that in last 20 years no one has sued BLP, no one came out with a proof of fraud or tricks or measurement error. Not even one investor complained. This makes you sit firmly on the fence. If the investors are happy, who are we to judge.

  • Ophelia Rump

    “The company has successfully developed a prototype power system generating 50,000 watts of thermal power on demand.”

    Is there a film of the 50,000 watt prototype system generating that much power on demand?

    It is not Schrodinger’s statement, it cannot be both true and false at the same time.

    They either have a working 50,000 watt electrical generation system, or they do not.

    • Anon2012_2014

      It is 50K watts for 1 mS, i.e. 50 watt seconds. Oh boy.

  • jousterusa

    A lot of the respondents here sound just like the skeptopaths who doubt the E-Cat. If there have been inconsistencies and shortcomings in Randell Mills’ public statements in the past, they compare well to the ever-shifting date of the publication of the third independent party test and some other of Rossi’s claims. I don’t doubt the sincerity, fundamental truthfulness or motives of either man. They are under tremendous pressure to perform miracles, and I am sure that is not the best environment for miracles to occur. I think both will succeed in slightly different niches.

    • Colophon

      Surely the only reason they are “under tremendous pressure to perform miracles” is that they told people they are miracle workers in order to attract funding. Either they are or they aren’t. Nobody forced them to make these astounding claims.

      • Ophelia Rump

        Perhaps they are under pressure because of statements like this.

        “The company has successfully developed a prototype power system generating 50,000 watts of thermal power on demand.”

        Their videos look like an arc welder, which happens to be a fair description of the mechanism.

        • Colophon

          Totally agree. If this is supposed to be “plasma”, then why does it bounce off the walls of the container and drop to the floor, like solid sparks of… um, metal?

          Randell Mills has reinvented the sparkler.

          • optiongeek

            Yes, a sparkler that somehow generates energy in a part of the spectrum that no known chemical reaction can generate.

          • Obvious

            I bet my home made Atomic Arc welder comes close.

          • Mark Underwood

            You speak as if plasma and metal sparks are somehow mutually exclusive, how strange. The fact is that yes, in some demos the fuel was contained in a thin aluminum casing. The sparks would come from that aluminum.

        • Mark Underwood

          No, not a fair description. It is more like a spot or seam welder. Low voltage, high current. Try getting such high energy light from that, as Mills does. Consider the inverse. Someone performs a photo electric effect experiment by shining low energy red light on a certain metal. Because we are familiar with the photoelectric effect we do not expect high electrons flying off the metal, no matter what the intensity of the incident red light. But if such actually occurred, what then?

      • bachcole

        Right on comment.

        I would not say that “miracle worker or not” is a binary reality. There is an in between. I am speaking in general. I am not saying anything about Mills. I am saying something about thinking.

        Also, perhaps Mills is “under tremendous pressure to perform miracles” because he has lallygagged for 20 years and all of a sudden this short Italian guy comes along and blows past him.

        • mike

          lollygagged? With the minimal funding he has had, he created a new science and will put it to use. Einstein could not have done that. It sure sounds to me like a life’s work coming to fruition. not lollygag.

      • mike

        That’s right. And if they get it out they will reap the rewards as well. Question is will they get the apologies they deserve from all the skeptics and the whole scientific community? I think not. as a matter of fact, they will probably try and steal the credit from them.

    • There is a difference between Rossi and Mills. Mills has been making the same claims for twenty years. To take him at is word at this point makes me feel gullible. Rossi is not asking for independent investors for $ to the tune of 60 mil, but has found a company who finances him. And as far as third party testing Rossi states “could be positive, could be negative”. But the greatest verification will be as Rossi stated, “Let the maket decide”. Mills on the other hand has lost his credibility.

      • bachcole

        I hear you. And I would add that Mills’ crack about e-catworld.com being a cult sounds sort of manipulative, something that con artists might do. I remain very unconvinced about Mills.

        If Mills has the goods, then it still seems like he wasn’t in a very big hurry until it became obvious that Rossi was about ready to break-out, then all of a sudden Mills started doing demos (as pathetic as they were). Mills was content with being an egotistical egg-head driving around in his expensive car, getting lots of attention. Suddenly he becomes a man on a mission, just when it seems that Rossi is about to garner a massive amount of attention. What a co-incidence!!!

        • Ophelia Rump

          His credibility is what it is. If people are willing to believe in Rossi with his checkered past, and those same people disbelieve Mills, the problem belongs to Mills, not the people.

          Some people will follow anyone with enough diplomas. Some people sift through mountains of lies, looking for a glimpse of credibility.
          It is largely a matter of whether you are a self actualized individual, trusting your own judgement, or completely socialized, and totally dependent upon the dictates of social hierarchy .

          • optiongeek

            The difference being that I can check Mills’ math myself. With my own calculator, I can verify the equations that fall out of his elegant theory actually add up to known observations – with exact precision. And he can do it relying only on interpretations of physical phenomena that I can understand and accept to be true. Mills’ past is irrelevant, you can’t hide lies in math. None of that applies to Rossi. He has no math, no theory to tie it all together.

          • mike

            Bingo. And I think Rossi’s device works too.

          • mike

            diplomas? http://members.bellatlantic.net/~userwho/aquarian/millsbio.html
            Mills is brilliant. Maybe that is why he is a little weird at times.

        • mike

          I don’t know, I would think Mills’ anger has to do with rossi taking a short cut and bypassing theory.

      • mike

        Hey you may be right, but look it this. http://members.bellatlantic.net/~userwho/aquarian/millsbio.html
        Rossi doesn’t compare. Not only that, if Mills is right rossi’s is obsolete now. Right?

    • bachcole

      You could be right. I think there is an identification issue: My hero is better than your hero. There is also a familiarity issue: I am more familiar with my confirmers (Levi, Essen, Evelyn, etc) than I am with your confirmers (See, I don’t even know the names of Mills’ confirmers.). In fact, I confess to falling into that trap. But there is also the fact that Rossi’s demonstrations are boss and Mills’ demonstration are pathetic. But I am being converted, not away from Rossi but to include both inventors. (:->)

    • Ophelia Rump

      Do not confuse selective skepticism with pathology. Some of us are willing to believe in some things, just not any and everything. The opposite of skepto-path is gullible fool.
      Neither one is a mark of distinction.

      • Job001

        Opposite of believers(i.e. skepto-pathetics and gullible fools) are successful statistical scientists and investors.

  • Obvious

    I’ve helped spend millions of dollars of investor money over the past 15 years (not alternate energy related), and although we often got decent results, most of that never generated a profit. That’s often the way it goes. We did generate some substantial tax losses, which for many of the investors, was almost as good as a return.

  • Barry8

    A red flag with Mills is he gets on a roll and jabbers on and on. He is brilliant, but he seems High on the Einstein and low on the Edison approach.

  • Ophelia Rump

    Perhaps they are under pressure because of statements like this.

    “The company has successfully developed a prototype power system generating 50,000 watts of thermal power on demand.”

    Their videos look like an arc welder, which happens to be a fair description of the mechanism.

  • Ophelia Rump

    His credibility is what it is. If people are willing to believe in Rossi with his checkered past, and those same people disbelieve Mills, the problem belongs to Mills, not the people.

  • bachcole

    Right on comment.

    I would not say that “miracle worker or not” is a binary reality. There is an in between. I am speaking in general. I am not saying anything about Mills. I am saying something about thinking.

    Also, perhaps Mills is “under tremendous pressure to perform miracles” because he has lallygagged for 20 years and all of a sudden this short Italian guy comes along and blows past him.

  • Alan DeAngelis

    I really haven’t been following this closely. If it’s a chemical reaction there should be a lot of the reaction product to analyze. Has it been cooled to form a crystal for an x-ray analysis to see how it differs from normal solid metallic hydrogen? You’d think it would be a more densely packed lattice. X-ray crystallography could be used to determine the lengths of chemical bonds.

    • Alan DeAngelis

      After all that energy is released there should be an
      extremely stable produce that’s quite different chemically from the water that
      was there initially. It’s in such a deep energy well that it’s not going to
      revert back to plain old water. So, what is the stuff? How does this new
      chemical entity differ from water?

      • Alan DeAngelis

        ..stable PRODUCT…

    • Alan DeAngelis

      Do some cyclic voltammetry experiments on the reaction product and see if it’s different from water.

    • Mark Underwood

      All kinds of tests have been performed on the products. Unique signatures of the low energy hydrogen gas (hydrino) have been identified. Check out the BLP website, lots of technical papers to explore.

      • Alan DeAngelis

        Thanks

  • depreciationman

    Apologies if I missed an earlier discussion of this point (and I am not a scientist!), but if the fuel for the BLP reactions is water-based, why is it necessary to run a venting system whenever they test the reaction. Shouldn’t the reaction products of water-based fuel be clean? And, if they aren’t clean, I have not seen the toxicity of the emissions addressed.

    • Mark Underwood

      The water is bound in a hydrate (I think it is a hexahydrate) and mixed with a metal salt Upon the explosion, the hydrate and metal salt remain unchanged, except the hydrate needs to be rehydrated. Whatever solid products don’t fall out of the plasma ball to the bottom are vented out. If I recall correctly, Mills alluded to capturing the vented product with a filter and recycling it with the rest. Neither the hydrate nor the metal salt are toxic in reasonable amounts.

  • Alan DeAngelis

    Have nuclear reactions been ruled out?
    H(2) + O(16) > He(4) + N(14) 3.11 MeV
    H(2) + O(17) > He(4) + N(15) 9.80 MeV
    H(2) + O(18) > He(4) + N(16) 4.24 MeV

    Deuterium depleted water is commercially available. I wonder if the results would be different if deuterium depleted water were used.

    Or when the reaction that they usually run goes to completion, I wonder if it could be revived by spiking it with D2O.

  • Alan DeAngelis

    Have nuclear reactions been ruled out?
    H(2) + O(16) > He(4) + N(14) 3.11 MeV
    H(2) + O(17) > He(4) + N(15) 9.80 MeV
    H(2) + O(18) > He(4) + N(16) 4.24 MeV

    Deuterium depleted water is commercially available. I wonder if the results would be different if deuterium depleted water were used.

    Or when the reaction that they usually run goes to completion, I wonder if it could be revived by spiking it with D2O.

  • Asterix

    It would seem that several people were correct in surmising that the reason for the demonstration was that BLP needed money. But ever since Mills announced production plans in 2008 to culminate in delivery of working units in 12-18 months, I take pronouncements of “real soon now” with a grain of salt.

  • michael hammer

    Er….Nope;
    may I add a couple of further points based on the data on the compnay website. This says the temperature reached is the same as the surface of the sun ie: 5500K. But what is the emissivity of water vapour or air at 5500K. I can tell you from personal experience, its really low. I routinely run a air/water vapour plasma at 5500K as well as nitrogen/water vapour. The emissivity is so low you can easily look at with unprotected eyes and indeed see right through it. The emission is so low its not easy to even detect with a silicon cell let alone producing power from it. If conduction and convection are blocked (by an air shear) you can put your hand 1cm from the 5500K plasma and feel absolutely nothing.

    Further, I also routinely use high current pulses to produce intense light flashes not in air or nitrogen but in Xenon and possibly Argon. Current pulses are up to 1000 amps and yes they produce very bright flashes in the mentioned gases. We have all seen similar situations – camera flashes! No nuclear reactions however.

    Lastly, they claim the fuel has an energy density 1000 times that of petrol. If so a lot of hydrino mass would be produced (think about how much petrol is used by a 1MW generating plant). How about a kg or so for analysis – that would really prove the system beyond doubt but I have not heard any mention of this waste product.

    This is all in addition to your relevant comments of course which I also agree with.

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  • GreenWin

    One of the more intriguing results of this SF-CIHT action is the apparent lack of spectral lines in the spectroscopy. This is more than curious. It is a rather significant clue. Mills tells us in a recent interview this is something scientists rarely if ever see. The emission of light is effectively ALL blackbody. This suggests the 1910 work of Planck and Nernst defining an electromagnetic blackbody spectrum including a Zero Point Field which manifests as a “uniform isotropic background radiation field that cannot be measured because of its homogeneity and isotropy.” 1.

    This concept was abandoned for 50 years but may be applicable to the SunCell’s incredibly dense light emission. Whatever the transition reaction of the H2->H1->H*n/137 (hydrino) — it is amplified by the electromagnetic arc to theoretically disrupt our relativistic (inertial) frame, for ~picoseconds. Like blowing a tiny hole in a blanket on a sunny day. The light behind the blanket comes flooding in for picoseconds until the hole collapses.

    This may be why Mills gets a very small pressure wave, 10% above atmosphere. The hydrino transition at these energy levels, “punch” short-lived holes in our relativistic frame.

    1. “Inertial Mass and the Quantum Vacuum Fields” Haisch, Rueda, Dobyns -2001

    • optiongeek

      You’re on the right track, but I’m afraid the blanket analogy is, er, all wet. The spectrum analysis is indeed interesting. Yes, the lack of specific peaks is important because it proves, contrary what many have said here, that it can’t be burning or other chemical reactions taking place. However, what’s truly unprecedented is the presence of ‘continuum’ radiation, i.e. radiation that is spans an entire range of frequencies. This is exactly what Mills’ theory predicts will happen as the hydrogen atom shrinks below ground state by releasing its energy to the catalyst (ie without photons at specific, characteristic frequencies). This radiation pattern only happens in high energy sources, not from chemistry.

      • GreenWin

        Grin. Thank you geek – a bit too much right brain fancy in that blanket. So, what remains a puzzle is why the transition radiation is not at a fixed frequency, but manifests as a continuum. Perhaps, like “tuning” an audio oscillator from above audible to sub-audible frequencies. This could be a result of the relativistic differential. At these lower energy pressures, electrons don’t jump between orbitals – they incrementally transition (at Mills’ n/137 – Haisch c/137) – generating continuum.

    • Sanjeev

      Scientists all over the world should be jumping on this like mad dogs by now, but strangely they are not. I’m talking about the spectra, its anomalous, it can give birth to new physics, new effects, new devices, noble prize etc etc. It has been verified by university level scientists, yet I see no response from scientific world. They are busy doing tiny improvisations in 500 year old physics, not touching anything new.

      • GreenWin

        Yes it is curious. As if this “world” is a carefully controlled compartment. Isolated, incapable of using relational data structure to create productive new collaborations. Waste of brain trust? Yup.

      • deleo77

        I think the main reason it is not is because the results were not published in a major scientific journal. But Nick Glumac is a known professor. As I understand it he has big DoD grants and has a well funded lab with state of the art equipment. Researchers talk and share their results. I have to imagine that he is speaking with other Professors at the University of Illinois and they are curious about his findings.

        • mike

          they published in nature mag. but they will ignore it as it threatens their funding I think.

          • GreenWin

            Haisch has published on coronal heating etc. in Nature. More germane is INERTIA AS A ZERO-POINT FIELD LORENTZ FORCE, B. Haisch, A. Rueda, and H.E. Puthoff, Phys. Rev. A, 49, 678 (1994). And recently on ArXiv in 2013. I think they’ve got something damned interesting.

  • GreenWin

    One of the more intriguing results of this SF-CIHT action is the apparent lack of spectral lines in the spectroscopy. This is more than curious. It is a rather significant clue. Mills tells us in a recent interview this is something scientists rarely if ever see. The emission of light is effectively ALL blackbody. This suggests the 1910 work of Planck and Nernst defining an electromagnetic blackbody spectrum including a Zero Point Field which manifests as a “uniform isotropic background radiation field that cannot be measured because of its homogeneity and isotropy.” 1.

    This concept was abandoned for 50 years but may be applicable to the SunCell’s incredibly dense light emission. Whatever the transition reaction of the H2->H1->H*n/137 (hydrino) — it is amplified by the electromagnetic arc to theoretically disrupt our relativistic (inertial) frame, for ~picoseconds. Like blowing a tiny hole in a blanket on a sunny day. The light behind the blanket comes flooding in for picoseconds until the hole collapses.

    This may be why Mills gets a very small pressure wave, 10% above atmosphere. The hydrino transition at these energy levels, “punch” short-lived holes in our relativistic frame.

    1. “Inertial Mass and the Quantum Vacuum Fields” Haisch, Rueda, Dobyns -2001

    • optiongeek

      You’re on the right track, but I’m afraid the blanket analogy is, er, all wet. The spectrum analysis is indeed interesting. Yes, the lack of specific peaks is important because it proves, contrary what many have said here, that it can’t be burning or other chemical reactions taking place. However, what’s truly unprecedented is the presence of ‘continuum’ radiation, i.e. radiation that is spans an entire range of frequencies. This is exactly what Mills’ theory predicts will happen as the hydrogen atom shrinks below ground state by releasing its energy to the catalyst (ie without photons at specific, characteristic frequencies). This radiation pattern only happens in high energy sources, not from chemistry.

      • GreenWin

        Grin. Thank you geek – a bit too much right brain fancy in that blanket. So, what remains a puzzle is why the transition radiation is not at a fixed frequency, but manifests as a continuum. Perhaps, like “tuning” an audio oscillator from above audible to sub-audible frequencies. This could be a result of the relativistic differential. At these lower energy pressures, electrons don’t jump between orbitals – they incrementally transition (at Mills’ n/137 – Haisch c/137) – generating continuum.

        • optiongeek

          I’m still a little fuzzy on the exact mechanism causing the continuum radiation but I believe you are in the right ballpark. There are two distinct parts to the hydrino transition. In the first m * 27.2eV of energy is transferred non-radiatively to the catalyst. This changes the force balance that was keeping the electron at the Bohr radius, and it transitions down, like a satellite being pulled toward a planet, into a lower orbit. As the radius shrinks, it also causes energy to be lost until a new stable force balance is achieved. Mills predicts that the bandwidth of the continuum radiation given off during this transition will have a lower frequency cutoff at 91.2nm / (m+1)^2. And, in fact, that’s exactly the spectrum that was recorded by Mills and his replicators, a continuum pattern with lower-frequency cut-offs at 91.2/9 = 10.1nm and 91.2/4 = 22.8nm (where m = 2 & 1).

    • Sanjeev

      Scientists all over the world should be jumping on this like mad dogs by now, but strangely they are not. I’m talking about the spectra, its anomalous, it can give birth to new physics, new effects, new devices, noble prize etc etc. It has been verified by university level scientists, yet I see no response from scientific world. They are busy doing tiny improvisations in 500 year old physics, not touching anything new.

      • GreenWin

        Yes it is curious. As if this “world” is a carefully controlled compartment. Isolated, incapable of using relational data structure to create productive new collaborations. Waste of brain trust? Yup.

      • bachcole

        It’s the same ol’ same ol’. Where is georgehants when we need him?

        George has been missing since we chastised him for doing his usual rant, but now we need him.

        Since establishment science has become so money bound, we have so much more good science as long it stays inside of the dominant paradigm, but we have so much less good science if it challenges the dominant paradigm.

        • mike

          Science is science. Good and bad, it is all good as we will learn from it. Imagine that, scientists actually learning for a change.

      • deleo77

        I think the main reason it is not is because the results were not published in a major scientific journal. But Nick Glumac is a known professor. As I understand it he has big DoD grants and has a well funded lab with state of the art equipment. Researchers talk and share their results. I have to imagine that he is speaking with other Professors at the University of Illinois and they are curious about his findings.

        • mike

          they published in nature mag. but they will ignore it as it threatens their funding I think.

          • GreenWin

            Haisch has published on coronal heating etc. in Nature. More germane is INERTIA AS A ZERO-POINT FIELD LORENTZ FORCE, B. Haisch, A. Rueda, and H.E. Puthoff, Phys. Rev. A, 49, 678 (1994). And recently on ArXiv in 2013. I think they’ve got something damned interesting.

          • mike

            Finally after years of frustration, reasonable people seem to be catching on. Welcome to the end of the big oil era. This will be world changing and fun.

  • tlp

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    8/13/14Blacklight vigorously disputes the allegations of fraud by certain anonymous Wikipedia editors, and has announced intentions to proceed legally against individuals and entities that assert these false allegations. To this end, it has recently filed a defamation action in New Jersey

  • Colophon

    Almost like a brief electrical arc, you mean…?

    • Mark Underwood

      No. If I recall correctly the 50,000 watts was in the form of a heat spike. Heat would be applied to a powder, a reaction would be initiated, and a huge spike of heat would be measured in the powder mixture. The amount of energy released could not be attributed to any known chemistry. But that was what, six years ago.

  • bkrharold

    I retract all my previous negative postings about Blacklight power and Randall Mills. I stand corrected. I was accused of being a troll for my troubles, but I was just uninformed, and thought that he was trying to ride to fame on Rossis coattails

    • optiongeek

      May I ask what led to your change of heart?

      • bkrharold

        I was convinced by several recent positive validations reported on a site new energy and fuel.com. There is definitely something to the hydrino theory. I would
        like to see some fundamental research done, that would put this in context of the standard model, or even create an entirely new paradigm. It might be difficult to create a practical and economical consumer device based on this technology, I believe Rossi and IH are much closer. However it really doesn’t matter who is first. It might be that Rossi’s technology is better for some applications, and Mills hydrinos are better for others. I just wanted to go on record to be fair and give credit where it is due☺

  • optiongeek

    May I ask what led to your change of heart?

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  • DOSUMPIN

    Listen to the radio interveiw with Randal Mills it reminds me of me when I get a new computer and I am trying to explain to somebody who dos’nt know about computers and I am so excited that I dont care if it dos’nt make since to them. My point is he is very excited. I think this is going to roll out next year very fast. I looked up Ontario coal plants and they shut them down. Its after the election and gas is still down. I think that anybody who is looking at this negative is not helping anything. The monopolies have so much at stake. It is so stupid that people think that people dont think they would kill to protect the money they worship. Mills and Rossi need each other. If a 100 scientist come out at one time with all the inventions that the bankers want surpressed. It can cause a big confussion and maybe one game changing tech might get through. When a nest of baby turtles hatches 2 out of 200 might survive, They get a way through while in the frenzy. We need to support these people not debase them