Rossi’s E-Cat Could Take us to the Stars (Guest Post)

The following guest post was submitted by Billy Jackson

Only a few times in history are we given the privilege of witnessing true greatness. Inventors, Scientist, and Engineers toil away developing and expounding on the technologies that improve the quality of our lives. These few but exceptional individuals are the engine that drives the foundation of our modern world.

For many their accomplishments will only be remembered in history. Their names all but forgotten we continue to benefit from their knowledge, and inventions. From the miniscule paperclip rescuing us from the clutter of an office desk, to the concrete used in nearly every modern building and roadway, the printing press which brings us word of events both near and far. These are but a few of the many inventions that touch our lives on a daily basis.

Yet among these faceless masses who have provided us with so much, there walk giants. Ben Franklin credited with the discovery of electricity, Along with the later work of Thomas Edison and Nicola Tesla brought us out of the darkness and set our world a light. The Wright brothers through sheer courage and undaunted will in the face of repeated discouragements gave us the skies.

Through the Manhattan Project: Robert Oppenheimer, David Bohm. Leo Szilard, Eugene Wigner, Otto Frisch, Rudolf Peierls, Felix Bloch, Niels Bohr, Emilio Segre, James Franck, Enrico Fermi , Klaus Fuchs and Edward Teller, ushered us into the Nuclear Age. Finally Albert Einstein changed how we view our universe, and Wernher von Braun showed us that we could leave the earthly bounds of our home.

This small, but powerful list of contributing individuals are here for a reason. We may soon add another name that potentially, might just surpass them all. Andrea Rossi, an Italian inventor has created a Low Energy Nuclear Device [LENR] that very well may crack the academic stigma that has repressed Cold Fusion research since the 1989 announcement by Pons and Fleischmann.

The last few years the e-cat has faced challenges from the established scientific community as to its validity. Despite repeated challenges to test results, objectivity, and repeated rejection of evidence, Andrea Rossi has submitted his device for peer review. For the last several months a number of scientist, engineers, and specialists in the industry have studied the device and its effects in an effort to dissect its inner workings. That review is now imminent, to be published i in the next few weeks.

With this level of energy gain we achieve boosts to efficiencies in: Vertical Farming, Desalinization. Manufacturing, Traveling, Construction and more. Yet the most excitable thing is yet to come. with a fuel source whose weight is negligible yet lasts 6 months or more (the limit of the current round of testing) utilizing an electric based propulsion we gain the ability to sustain constant acceleration via space travel.
Constant acceleration is notable for several reasons:

It is a fast form of travel. When ergonomics are considered, they are the fastest form of interplanetary and interstellar travel.
Constant acceleration creates its own artificial gravity to the benefit of passengers, who may thus be spared from having to deal with the effects of microgravity.

As an example using existing technology (short burn then coast) a trip to Mars would take 8+ months. Using constant acceleration and aiming at a point where Mars will be when we arrive. The time would be cut down to between 1.7 to 4.5 DAYS. As the humble opinion of this amateur writer, I submit that despite all of the above, Mr Rossi has potentially given us more than just greater efficiencies in energy. He very well may have given our children a pathway to the stars.

Neil Armstrong spoke with nearly half a billion people watching as he stepped from the lunar lander : “That’s one small step for man one giant leap for mankind.”  Mr. Rossi if your test results are positive as rumored. you may well have just taught us to fly.

Billy Jackson

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  • Ophelia Rump

    The Internet is a mixed bag of nuts.

    I’m not sure I like the association.

  • BroKeeper

    Well said Billy. While collecting money as a boy on my paper route for the Kettering Times a neighbor of mine, Ivonette Wright Miller, invited me inside. She pointed towards the living room fireplace where a very large wooden propeller hung over the mantel. The propeller was from her
    uncle’s Orville and Wilbur’s Wright “B” Flyer when at the age of 15 she flew with her “Uncle Orv” at Huffman Prairie in 1911. I’ll never forget the delight she had telling her story with her uncle.

    I bring this up because of similar feelings I sense among you and the E-Cat World brothers here as if we are flying into the future with Andrea Rossi heading towards those stars.

  • Billy Jackson

    http://www.space.com/26713-impossible-space-engine-nasa-test.html

    Researchers at NASA’s Johnson Space Center in Houston have found that a microwave thruster system that requires no propellant does indeed
    generate a small amount of thrust, Wired UK reported
    Thursday (July 31). If the technology pans out, it could make
    spaceflight far cheaper and speedier, potentially opening up much of the
    cosmos to exploration, advocates say.

    This is but one of the recent innovations that we can explore for a reaction-less drive.

    • this is one possible blackswan in the pipeline… the number of replication is not definitive but intriguing.

      I’ve followed that subject since few years after Chinese team hired Shawyer and replicated his work.
      See my scoop.it with many article and forums…
      http://www.scoop.it/t/emdrive

      It seems that another team, beside Nasa,Fetta, Shawyer, China, have replicated EmDrive, at Lockheed Martin in Skunkwork …

      • Billy Jackson

        Agreed. we know that challenges will exist some we know now, some we may not find until we start building and experimenting. thus my point that it may be our children that benefit from these possibilities instead of us in the here and now.

        concepts which were theorized as possibilities have been used in science fiction as a way to give validity to the authors story. yet before our eyes we are now watching science fiction give away to become reality.

    • Heath

      NASA should be presenting their findings on the EMDrive at the International Astronautical Congress this week in Toronto. In July they stated that they planned to test the EMDrive with much more power in and in a complete vacuum this past month, but there is no telling if they will include these results.

      • Broncobet

        Ohhh exciting. It would be great if emDrive worked this is the next step. I hope you all take note that the media and science are not skeptical in the least and are not responsible for the lack of success in 25 years for LENR.The emDrive is a far more unbelievable, sci fy, impossible invention than LENR and the world ,the media, science didn’t cry and not believe but accetpted and within a month had the next set of steps. That is how fast tech that is useful moves, a month ,not 25 years. That being said I think the emDrive is so far out there,so impossible that it might not pass this next test. But see? We only have to wait a few days to find out. Not these ridiculous waits that LENR imposes.

  • Billy Jackson

    Fortunately politics and regional disputes aside the premises of the article remain the possibilities enabled by the physics and science. Scientist, Engineers and Inventors can build, maintain, and dream up our future.. asking them to also make you love your fellow man is a tad bit unrealistic.

  • Heath

    And to assist in the lightening of the launch, a new breakthrough of absorbing and storing oxygen in a minuscule amount of crystals.

    http://www.sdu.dk/en/Om_SDU/Fakulteterne/Naturvidenskab/Nyheder/2014_09_30_iltsluger

    Sorry if it’s a bit OT.

  • GreenWin

    Well written Billy. Lovely vision. Space travel incarnate will always be difficult and risky. But then so is the SCAD Tower roller coaster. Keep dreaming brother. 🙂

  • Ophelia Rump

    Thank you clovis ray.
    Not so much brilliant as mixing chocolate and peanutbutter.
    With new abilities come new ways of approaching old ideas.
    It is the imponderable which makes predicting the future difficult.
    I am glad you like the idea. Maybe that means it is one of my rare practical notions.

  • Omega Z

    Computers only simulate intelligence by algorithms & brute force. Thus the designation AI. In Chess, They use brute force & speed. They are big & fast enough to process the finite number of moves to the winning move. With each move it reevaluates. This is a value based algorithmic system. The layman is forgiven if he thinks this is intelligence based. They don’t know what’s behind the curtain.

    Computers can do amazing things including extrapolating conclusions & even learn at a very fast pace with better then average accuracy provided enough data, but even this is based on values entered by a programer. It is not infallible.

    Beep: Illegal command. Computers have difficulty with the illogical choices. The Beep is the programers simplistic way of limiting this. Some things can be handled with algorithms, but illogical choices many times can have infinite possibilities. No computer will ever over come this, Because it’s creators can’t. There will always be a “He Did What? moment”

    Computers are & always will be data, switches of some sort & electrical impulses. The human brain is far more then that. It can be dissected & studied, but it’s more then just cells or a lump of flesh.

    Note, in about 30 years, Humans & Computers will be interfaced in some fashion. Just another extension. And Don’t fear the AI computer. But be very Leary of the human species.

    IF AI/Bots destroy the human species, It will be done by Human Intent. Not the former. It is just another tool.

  • Broncobet

    If some one could supply lots of heat we could heat a propellant ,or if they could make electricity a Hall effect or the VASMIR engine,I understand this is just dreaming, but it’s taking us further from the goal which is to heat a tea kettle.(What About Bob?) Baby steps.

  • skunkwork is the way real science should be done… normal it is done by engineers 😉

    that they tested it mean nothing else it is not a proven error.

    the great problem of current bad academic science is that they value so highly their own ego, that they imagine that making an erreor in simply not rejecting a claim which is finally not proven true after long delays, is a catastrophe.

    just see how stephan pomp refused to participate to a test, just because he was afraid it give credibility to participate…

    just see the pathoskeptics on emdrive, cold fusion solarism, who simply state that we shoud not test a claim because it may be wrong, because it is not proven true according to a theory…
    the same who say evidence are wrong because they challenge a theory.

    yes, skunkwork is doing real science, like cavemen did.
    they see something intriguing, test it, note the result, and accept they can still be wrong finally.
    their ego is not in being always right, but in being right one time and making a revolution after many failures. they have the ego of an entrepreneur, not of a priest.

    • Broncobet

      Skunk Works is indeed great but they are engineers first and scientists second,they would have a hundred engineers to one scientist ,of course the two overlap. Skunk Works is my number one favorite to create fusion energy. I predict they will announce progress with hot fusion (maybe five years) before LENR is producing reliable power(maybe thirty years).

    • Broncobet

      I still have reservations I want to hear they(EmDrive) passed the next more difficult test.

  • Omega Z

    Weaponizing is a given.
    Both lasers & particle beam weapons require large power input. Energy supply is the primary Achilles heel to both. With additional R&D, I can see Rossi’s technology being scaled to the size of a refrigerator with a 10Mw capacity.

    Note that if BLP/Mills device is half what he claims, It would be usable for such devices with a prototype ready within a year. Deployment to Ships, Aircraft, & Armored vehicles with in 5 years or less.

    I’m Curious as to whether Mills has already been approached(By MIB) & warned off. His sudden shift from MHD electrical conversion to using photovoltaic was a peculiar (& Sudden) shift. MHD had promise of 80/90 percent conversion efficiency.

    Side note: An Armored vehicle equipped with these weapons & existing automated tracking & targeting technology could take out an RPG & the person who fired it in milliseconds. Making such vehicles nearly impregnable.

    • bachcole

      I have no problem with weaponization of anything. I have a problem with the hearts and minds of people filled with anger and greed who generate like minded governments that direct young men to use said weapons.

  • orsobubu

    At very high speeds, probably needed if a spaceship is aiming for the stars instead of Mars, there is the huge problem of interstellar dust, that would impact the ship in destructive way. I remember I read that there is also the problem of even tinier particles, that would be assimilable to deadly cosmic rays, at interstellar speeds. Too massive shields would be required, and that’s a problem. I think that new technologies should be developed first. for example, instead of simple humans as crew, they could send syntethic robotic/human beings capable of selfrepair the DNA damage, coupling this with an unmanned drone ship sent in advance in the same exact pathway of the mothersip to catch dust and rocks

    • Billy Jackson

      i think that’s kind of expected as we are doing with mars. send the robotics first to assess danger and local conditions. then follow up if safe.

  • Albert D. Kallal

    While the energy “density” of nuclear energy is amazing, the
    problem is electric drive engines are not powerful at this point in time.

    Assuming we could build such a spacecraft (and we
    cannot), then going back to basic high school physics (in fact grade 11!!), the
    time to travel a distance at a given accelaters, starting from rest is based on
    this:

    Distance = ½ at^2

    (a = gravity, t = time)

    Gravity is 32 ft per second, or 21.9 miles per hour in one second.
    Per hour that is 82440 miles per hour.

    If you accelerated all the way at the speed of gravity,
    you would travel the 33 MILLION miles to mars in 20 hours (less then a day!).

    However, we only going HALF way, and then going to
    reverse the engine.

    So to travel to half way (16,500,000 million miles), then
    it takes 14 hours, you then flip the ship around and then start to decelerate at
    the rate of earth gravity. This second part will take the SAME as the first
    part. When you reach mars you would be just grinding to a halt – so total time
    = 28 hours.

    Remember, if you jump off a building with earth gravity (and no air resistance),
    then in 1 second you going 22 miles per hour. In 10 seconds you going 220 miles
    per hour! In 100 seconds you going 2200 miles per hours. Remember, the speed of
    a bullet is about 900 miles per hour. So in about 40 seconds you falling FASTER
    then the speed of a bullet.

    So a full trip to mars with something that accelerates at
    earth gravity (32 feet per second) is only 20 hours if you accelerated all the
    way. And half way is 14 + we reverse the engine at half way point, then the
    whole trip takes 28 hours.

    We simply don’t have anything close to these kinds of technology, but basic high school physics at least gives some starting numbers here.

    Regards,
    Albert k

    • Broncobet

      Very well stated ,I knew it was an easy formula but you put it so well.So 28 hours but we also have to get off the earth and land on Mars but it’s very quick to cover the long distance if we can go that fast. I really don’t want them talking too long because of the health risk. Here’s another point; one G doesn’t sound like a lot but can humans survive 28 days at one G? Oh I get it that’s the load we are always under. I read a sci fy story long ago where they had to go way out past Saturn from Earth and with something like 3 g’s I think, they made real sure to not have any ridges in there clothes as the tiniest ridge in your underware would kill you. Everyone dies from the acceleration. LENR would be very unsuited for this task as it should be reliable and if thermal produce much higher temps than the hot cat or electricity for something like the VASMIR which is one strong candidate. You’d use solar cells or fission energy.When the VASMIR is ready we’ll use it to keep the space station up then if that works use it for more but the Mars trip would be such higher power it would take them years to scale up. A fission heat rocket heating H2 is a good choice and Elon Musk can get us there with his tech but it would take the 8 months I think.

      • Billy Jackson

        1 g is one gravity. that’s the same as standing on earth at sea level.. aka you do it everyday of your life 🙂 (remember in space your weightless 0 g so you float everywhere.. with 1 g of acceleration the force of acceleration would allow you to stand and move around as if you were earth normal. (not perfectly but you get the picture)

        i read a similar story about the ridges due to gravity acceleration.. every G of acceleration you have adds double your body weight. at one G you weigh normal and can move around.. at 2 g’s a 200 pound guy now weighs in at 400, at 3 g’s he weighs 600.

        we can hit high g’s temporarily before we black out. but extended duration even of just 2 g’s over a long period of time would not be healthy due the strain it puts on your body and heart.

        • Broncobet

          Yes thanks Billy, reread my post I said”oh I get it” ect I was just thinking out loud but I think you have it exactly, that we can’t take too many hours of 3 G.Great subject ,thanks.