ExtremeTech Covers The E-Cat Test

Here’s the title of an article on ExtremeTech:

“Cold fusion reactor verified by third-party researchers, seems to have 1 million times the energy density of gasoline”

It’s a good overview of the test with some interesting analysis. For example:

“The researchers are very careful about not actually saying that cold fusion/LENR is the source of the E-Cat’s energy, instead merely saying that an “unknown reaction” is at work. In serious scientific circles, LENR is still a bit of a joke/taboo topic. The paper is actually somewhat comical in this regard: The researchers really try to work out how the E-Cat produces so much darn energy — and they conclude that fusion is the only answer — but then they reel it all back in by adding: “The reaction speculation above should only be considered as an example of reasoning and not a serious conjecture.”

“Anyway, now that we’ve got the necessary cynicism/scrutiny out of the way, let’s get down to what everyone’s really interested in: The utterly insane amounts of energy produced by the E-Cat.

“To put this into perspective, the E-Cat tested by the researchers has an energy density of 1.6×109 Wh/kg and power density of 2.1×106 W/kg. This is orders (plural) of magnitude higher than anything else ever tested — somewhere in the region of 100 times more power than the best supercapacitors, and maybe a million times more energy than gasoline. In the words of the researchers, “These values place the E-Cat beyond any other known conventional source of energy.””

It’s nice to see the test being taken seriously here. Even if people might find the results hard to believe, and be naturally skeptical, my hope is that some people will look at what has been reported with an open, curious mind. I’m glad to see more prominent web sites giving real attention to the E-Cat. I feel articles like this could open the subject to a wider audience.

Already there are 180 comment on the article. About par for the course with this subject. I haven’t yet delved into the comments section, but I am sure there will be a lively discussion going on there!

  • Rui Germano

    I think I’ll be asking a question that is on everyone’s mind: why isn’t this already published on a renown magazine?

    • GreenWin

      F E A R

      • Ophelia Rump

        No not fear, Ignorance in all its finest splendor. Active ignorance, not the weak soup passive ignorance. The full strength industrial brand of ignorance which goes out of it’s way to maintain unwavering discipline.

      • Teemu Soilamo

        I honestly do not think it’s fear, it’s simply incredulity. Most people aren’t in on some huge conspiracy to stall LENR…

    • Gerard McEk

      Lack of responsibility, stupidity, lack of science and probably FEAR as GreenWin rightly says.

    • mcloki

      It came out yesterday. Do you think that they read the fringe magazines when there are other things being discussed. Those papers have an internal momentum all their own. they might not write about it till there is a steam engine driving an electric generator for an apartment complex. A market that would make them millions.

    • Ophelia Rump

      It is not even published yet.

  • Rui Germano

    I think I’ll be asking a question that is on everyone’s mind: why isn’t this already published on a renown magazine?

    • GreenWin

      F E A R

      • Ophelia Rump

        No not fear, Ignorance in all its finest splendor. Active ignorance, not the weak soup passive ignorance. The full strength industrial brand of ignorance which goes out of it’s way to maintain unwavering discipline. Only the educated focused and well disciplined are capable of truly focused dynamic ignorance.

        I am not talking about the Mary Getlosts of the world, they are just destructive toadies. Dolores Umbridge wanna be’s.

      • Teemu Soilamo

        I honestly do not think it’s fear, it’s simply incredulity. Most people aren’t in on some huge conspiracy to stall LENR…

    • Gerard McEk

      Lack of responsibility, stupidity, lack of science and probably FEAR as GreenWin rightly says.

    • mcloki

      It came out yesterday. Do you think that they read the fringe magazines when there are other things being discussed. Those papers have an internal momentum all their own. they might not write about it till there is a steam engine driving an electric generator for an apartment complex. A market that would make them millions.

    • Ophelia Rump

      It is not even published yet.
      Not that it will make the evening news when it is.

      Welcome to the new age!
      I would build micro electric generation plants, if they will only make it possible for me.

      There are hundreds of thousand of people like us who would drive this, and I am confident who will drive this, if we are given the opportunity. Sell me a small unit capable of COP >6 and hotter than 150 C which an average person can afford. I beg you Industrial Heat? 10 kw would be enough.

  • artefact

    and the guys on Wikipedia reject to use it as a source ..

  • artefact

    and the guys on Wikipedia reject to use it as a source ..

  • Christina

    Why fear, folks?

    Everything in nature is beautiful. Is not low energy nuclear reaction safe and plentiful. Only the mind of man will use it in corrupted ways. But if we refused to use it because of that, we’d still live in caves.

    Christina

  • Daniel Telfer

    It does not matter that no renown publications have published yet. It is better kept in check for just a little longer. Let small publications publish. We do not want 1989 to happen all over again where big media gets it then a phd makes negative speculation with out all the facts and the public go running off thinking it is all a hoax. That is just what oil wants. There is no big conspiracy just many like minded people all wanting the same outcome which is to keep there way of life. We need our community to be big and robust with many more experts on our side. Then when this story breaks to the main stream other influences will have a hard job to counter and influence the facts with doubt and dubious motives. This needs to spread like a virus not a wild fire with a hiss and a roar but that burns out. 1989 proves that a big hit can be squashed with a big defence. Viral news is impossible to stop and it has been infecting people since 1989. We are nearly at critical mass. Be patient and help infect others.

    • llsurfer

      Very wise words Daniel!

  • mcloki

    The comment section on Extreme tech is laughable. same stuff we saw on Next Big Future. I would love them to make a test where they just dropped one of those rods into a swimming pool and boiled it off.

  • mcloki

    The comment section on Extreme tech is laughable. same stuff we saw on Next Big Future. I would love them to make a test where they just dropped one of those rods into a swimming pool and boiled it off.

  • The laughable part is where they say that we’ll all be waiting for consensus from the scientific community about whether it works or not. I’m just cracking up. I suggest they study the history of aviation, manned space flight, or any other scientific invention. Quasicrystals anyone? The guy who discovered them, Dan Shechtman, was thrown out of the International Union of Crystallography before he won the nobel prize for the discovery in 2011!

  • pierre levesque

    The report is an above average business report. That’s all it needs to be.

    Anyone thinking this is a scientific journal article is a fool. Anyone thinking this should be a scientific journal article is a fool too.

    Do all those fools out there not understand a thing about money, business, IP, or marketing.

    People make a living and spend their lives trying to make money on fantastic and purely benevolent ideas. People also spend their money and time trying to scam people’s pants off. Funny how all the scientists and the all the scammers do the same thing for money. In the end nothing changes. Unless your name is Edison, Tesla, Wright, Jobs, Gates, Oppenheimer or that guy who invented the Zamboni. And the slap chop guy. He changed things.

    Rossi is like the slap chop guy. He may have no brains, but he could change the world. And he has IP, while you don’t.

    So get off your ass and get some of your own IP before you criticize Rossi for being 100 miles further down the road than you are.

  • pierre levesque

    The report is an above average business report. That’s all it needs to be.

    Anyone thinking this is a scientific journal article is a fool. Anyone thinking this should be a scientific journal article is a fool too.

    Do all those fools out there not understand a thing about money, business, IP, or marketing.

    People make a living and spend their lives trying to make money on fantastic and purely benevolent ideas. People also spend their money and time trying to scam people’s pants off. Funny how all the scientists and the all the scammers do the same thing for money. In the end nothing changes. Unless your name is Edison, Tesla, Wright, Jobs, Gates, Oppenheimer or that guy who invented the Zamboni. And the slap chop guy. He changed things.

    Rossi is like the slap chop guy. He may have no brains, but he could change the world. And he has IP, while you don’t.

    So get off your ass and get some of your own IP before you criticize Rossi for being 100 miles further down the road than you are.

  • Jag Kaurah

    NASA’s explanation of LENR is at http://climate.nasa.gov/news/864/

  • Veblin

    Mark Gibbs
    NetworkWorld
    Could ultra-cheap, clean energy be just around the corner? The return of Rossi and the E-Cat.
    http://www.networkworld.com/article/2824558/infrastructure-management/could-ultra-cheap-clean-energy-be-just-around-the-corner-the-return-of-rossi-and-the-e-cat.html

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  • pg

    To Jousterusa: Please note that in the CNN report you write 1.5 million megawatt hours, but it should read 1.5 megawatt hours. Also you write 20-inch cylinder, where it should read 20 cm (7 inches). I write it here because I know you read the blog.

    • pg

      8 inches