Possible NRG Connection Seems Disproven

Thanks very much to Falknis for doing some extra digging which seems to have disproven a possible business connection between NRG and Industrial Heat.

To sum up:

IPH International BV is listed as an applicant on the most recent E-Cat patent application

On this site it is stated: “IPH International BV is a company that is owned by a foreign entity. The tophoudster abroad from IPH International BV: European Generating Sarl, located in L 2124 Luxembourg in Luxembourg”

A 2003 document showed European Generating S.a.r.l. was listed as a subsidiary of US utility NRG.

Today Falkins has reported this:

According to the company registry of Luxembourg (http://legicopylux.free.fr/) search for „European Generating“ in the original language as google translates also the company names) all shares of European Generating SARL have been sold by NRG International Inc. to Temmes Financial Services Ltd. on December 10, 2003.

On February 28, 2014 Temmes Financial Services Ltd. sold the participation in European Generating SARL to First Name Holdings (IOM), part of the conglomerate of First Name Group (http://www.firstnames.com).

In addition, Andre Blum discovered the following and posted it here today:

I used the paid service of the chambers of commerce to see if there is more info.

There isn’t, really.

Sole shareholder of IPH international BV is IPH Management LLC, 2140 South Dupont Highway, 19934 Camden, Delaware, USA.

Management is IPH Management LLC, and First Names (Netherlands) B.V., Keplerstraat 34, Badhoevedorp. I guess this is the firm offering these financial offshore services to foreign IP owners.

No persons on payroll.

Activities: SBI-code: 7740 – Lease van niet-financiële immateriële activa

Het verkrijgen, bezitten, overdragen, exploiteren en in licentie geven en verkrijgen van patenten, handelsmerken, auteursrechten, know-how en andere rechten van intellectuele eigendom.

(get, own, transfer, exploit and license patents, trademarks, copyrights, know-how and other rights of intellectual property).

placed capital: EUR 2.500

It seems to me then, that NRG is out of the picture in terms of having a documented business connection, even though I think it could be the kind of company that might be interested in the E-Cat in the future.


  • psi2u2

    Based on my cursory reading, it doesn’t seem to me that the connection has been definitely disproven. It has been shown that at least some of the evidence used to establish the connection may have been, or was, misinterpreted. It is still conceivable to me that some of the threads just remain under the radar.

  • Andre Blum

    despite the disproven link with NRG, the good news I think is that the IP rights setup looks very sound, business wise, and is a further acknowledgement that IH/Darden/Vaughn are no rookies, and mean serious business with the E-Cat.

  • Buck

    From yesterday to today, nothing has really changed. As the Russian physicist Uzikov stated, “The Train has left”.

    If Crane of NRG Energy wants and is willing to accept the same thing as Darden/Rossi, then an agreement, well hidden, will be forged. This can be said of any other company with the necessary resources willing to strike the same sort of deal. Who in their right mind would choose to ignore the train, going in their direction, that has already left the station.

    We watchers must wait for the story to unfold at its own leisure.

  • Alan DeAngelis

    Another good one.
    This could explain why the E-Cat needs AC. It sustains the plasma.

    • Fortyniner

      The internal generation of a plasma in CF reactors might be one explanation of the external magnetic fields that have been reported (surface phonons might provide another, IF the packed charge behaves like a cylindrical metal body).

      However, while DGT claim to use spark discharges to create and maintain a plasma, there doesn’t seem to be an obvious corollary in Rossi’s reactor – unless EM induction is used to create eddy currents in the ‘charge’ strong enough to cause a degree of ionisation (perhaps in concert with one or more catalysts).

      The presence of an active (so far undisclosed) ‘mouse’ component, and a plasma cloud inside the operating reactor would provide a possible explanation of the unusual elemental/isotopic composition of the sample, which might result in part from migration of materials from the ‘mouse’ to the ‘cat’ and v.v., as ions moved through the plasma cloud and condensed in new locations.

      Some, but not all, of the observed ‘transmutations’ might have then occurred within the plasma, while other shifts in composition might not result from transmutation, but just from physical transfer within the reactor, as a result of asymmetric deposition or ‘refinement’ during condensation, due to internal magnetic or electrical gradients.