“A Call For Crazy Ideas” from Bill Gates — Bobcat Owner Suggests LENR Maybe?

I found this post on the Facebook Cold Fusion, LENR, and Andrea Rossi page (https://www.facebook.com/groups/ECat.LENR/) posted by Göran Andersson, co-owner of the Swedish company Bobcat, which makes construction equipment and vehicles.

He posted the following commment on Bill Gates’ Linked in Page titled “https://www.linkedin.com/today/post/article/20141021225933-251749025-a-call-for-crazy-ideas” which is actually a page about the Gates’ foundation Grand Challenge grant opportunities which are designed to “innovation to solve key health and development problems”.

Göran Andersson DU
Md på Bobcat Sverige AB

Noticed that you visited ENEA in Italy, I hope you where informed about LENR and the improvements done. I and my Company are supporting MFMP (Martin Fleischmanns Memorial Project) in their try to replicate Elforsk AB independent test of Rossis E-Cat. After sending them funds we where asked if they could use our name and we agreed. Surprisingly we where told that we where the first Company in the World who showed our name! Are the World afraid of this technology and why doesnt governments put in massive funds to get LENR up and going? It would give us a clean enviroment and very cheap energy anywhere. I and many more are glad if your meeting with ENEA will result in an interest from your side about LENR.

If Gates reads the post I kind of doubt he would respond publicly — he seems to be the kind of guy (being the richest person in the world) who would do his work carefully in private, and only make public statements when it would be opportune.

Still, this may be the kind of message that could plant a seed.

  • Alan DeAngelis

    Why are Bill Gates and Warren Buffett always referred to as the richest people in the world? Maybe they’re the world’s richest billionaires but they surely they aren’t the richest people in the world.

  • Alan DeAngelis

    Why are Bill Gates and Warren Buffett always referred to as the richest people in the world? Maybe they’re the world’s richest billionaires but they surely they aren’t the richest people in the world.

  • LuFong

    If I recall Bill Gates was very anti-open source during his time at the helm of Microsoft. Also interesting is the fact that Andrea Rossi has previously mentioned his model for the development of the E-Cat is Microsoft (not sure exactly what he means). It would be a quite a turnaround if Bill Gates supported MFMP or other LENR efforts as the Swedish Company Bobcat has but stranger things have happened.

  • Hador_NYC

    LuFong, that was true then, but his company now is going the other way. that has to be happening with his blessing. .Net just went open source. A change is a coming…

  • georgehants

    Sifferkoll®
    Sifferkoll is about using quantitative
    analysis and proprietary algos on big data to verify qualitative and
    intuitive models covering areas of interest, including trading, online
    sales, social media behaviour and black swans like the LENR paradigm
    shift.
    Is the Oil price the Prime Indicator of LENR (Cold Fusion) breakthrough?
    http://www.sifferkoll.se/sifferkoll/

    • Ophelia Rump

      When enough people connect the same dots, they gain significance from that momentum alone, even if the original connection was questionable.

  • georgehants

    Sifferkoll®
    Sifferkoll is about using quantitative
    analysis and proprietary algos on big data to verify qualitative and
    intuitive models covering areas of interest, including trading, online
    sales, social media behaviour and black swans like the LENR paradigm
    shift.
    Is the Oil price the Prime Indicator of LENR (Cold Fusion) breakthrough?
    http://www.sifferkoll.se/sifferkoll/

    • Ophelia Rump

      When enough people connect the same dots, they gain significance from that momentum alone, even if the original connection was questionable.
      The LENR / Oil Price Drop connection is building mass and gaining momentum.
      When you consider that no one knows how many 1MW plants Industrial Heat is currently manufacturing and how many they produced already, and how many they will be capable of producing one year from now. There is no way of estimating the actual current economic impact or the impact on oil futures. The futures impact could be tremendous if there were a world wide roll-out of manufacturing under license.
      It would be foolish to cling to being sole owner of one factory when they could own a percent of the net from thousands of factories around the world.

  • bachcole

    Gates is the second richest person in the world, but whose counting? But he is certainly the most prominent of the very richest people in the world. And he used to be the richest guy. Some Mexican guy is now the richest, but we never hear about him.

    • Frank Acland

      Gates overtook Carlos Slim again this year. I think Microsoft has gained quite a bit of value this year.

      • bachcole

        I hope poor Carlos isn’t losing any sleep over it. (:->)

        • Alan DeAngelis

          I was thinking of someone who the Russians say is worth 100 trillion
          (yes with a t).

          • bachcole

            I doubt if there is that much wealth in the entire world, by a wide margin.

          • Alan DeAngelis

            A list of the “The World’s Billionaires” and the worlds richest people are not the same thing (by orders of magnitude),

          • bachcole

            It would be a matter of definition. Is it cash flow or assets? Differences like that.

          • Alan DeAngelis

            Actually this is what I had in mind (don’t be put off by it being a cartoon). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGk5ioEXlIM

          • Alan DeAngelis

            And the Titanic isn’t sitting at the bottom of the Atlantic. It’s its sister ship the Olympic. If you liked the above cartoon watch this (it’s another fascinating part of the story).
            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USoBDtW_dAA

      • clovis ray

        Can someone explain, how one of the poorest country’s in the world, has the richest man, i set and chuckle when i hear the U.S. politicians, fight about immigration, if mexico, would take care of it own people, we would have no problem, the politicians need to wake up ,or quite covering up for mexico, the government is so corrupt, it can’t function, why do we treat our neighbors so bad, we need to clean up mexico, instead of irak, and the middle east, if the Mexican people had a decent government we would not have any trouble, if they had a safe, place to live, with a thriving economy, people here in the us would move down there, this is the easy answer, too easy i suppose, i love the Mexican people, they are our neighbors, not terrorist, the reason for this mess is as usual, greed and power, when i think of this corruption i want to through up. this is not what america is about.

  • ecatworld

    Gates overtook Carlos Slim again this year. I think Microsoft has gained quite a bit of value this year.

    • bachcole

      I hope poor Carlos isn’t losing any sleep over it. (:->)

      • Alan DeAngelis

        I was thinking of someone who the Russians say is worth 100 trillion
        (yes with a t).

  • GreenWin

    While the rest of the global press reports the reason Bill Gates and team visited ENEA Frascati, ENEA press release avoided any mention of LENR. They even left out Gates’ meeting with Violante and top ENEA brass for the cold fusion lecture. So, clearly ENEA is still gagged on CF, likely due to the DARPA agreement. Fortunately there were enough honest reporters around the carry the real reason Gates was there – to learn about LENR. The link is to a translation of Rome Online’s unedited reprint of the ENEA press release.

    http://bit.ly/11caeSg
    The hot fusionists are terrified their 65 year gravy train is coming to an end.

    • bachcole

      Don’t we have that guy from the University of Missouri who went to the University of Texas with his wife, the psychologist. I forget his name.

      • ecatworld

        Robert Duncan

        • Alan DeAngelis

          Yes, and Robert Duncan was dismissed as a charlatan when he came to the conclusion that cold fusion was real. (at 1:15). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLhqYFyrtWQ
          The marbled institutions were able to get away with slandering LENR for decades (F&P weren’t physicists therefore by definition they were “incompetent boobs”). The prima donnas never anticipated a Rossi. Now
          they’re terrified that the world will see that they set the whole field back a
          quarter of a century (maybe even a century if Langmuir’s torch turns out to be LENR).

    • pg

      If you look at the pictures, Mr. Testa, the head of Enea, is the only one that looks unhappy, and unwilling to be photographed. That is because the ENEA center in Frascati depends on ITER funding to function, and he got his job advocating a new deal in hot nuclear energy for Italy.
      That is why a personality like Bill Gates is so valuable. No one (in Italy) can deny him access to public research, and no paid troll can go after him, whatever he says about the technology

  • GreenWin

    While the rest of the global press reports the reason Bill Gates and team visited ENEA Frascati, ENEA press release avoided any mention of LENR. They even left out Gates’ meeting with Violante and top ENEA brass for the cold fusion lecture. So, clearly ENEA is still gagged on CF, likely due to the DARPA agreement. Fortunately there were enough honest reporters around the carry the real reason Gates was there – to learn about LENR. The link is to a translation of Rome Online’s unedited reprint of the ENEA press release.

    http://bit.ly/11caeSg
    The hot fusionists are terrified their 65 year gravy train is coming to an end.

    • bachcole

      Don’t we have that guy from the University of Missouri who went to the University of Texas with his wife, the psychologist. I forget his name.

      • Frank Acland

        Robert Duncan

        • Alan DeAngelis

          Yes, and Robert Duncan was dismissed as a charlatan when he came to the conclusion that cold fusion was real. (at 1:15). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLhqYFyrtWQ
          The marbled institutions were able to get away with slandering LENR for decades (F&P weren’t physicists therefore by definition they were “incompetent boobs”). The prima donnas never anticipated a Rossi. Now
          they’re terrified that the world will see that they set the whole field back a
          quarter of a century (maybe even a century if Langmuir’s torch turns out to be LENR).

          • bachcole

            It is certainly true that the other side cast stones of castigation, and for this (and a lack of trust and curiosity) I fault them. And they allowed their desire for job security to cloud their judgement. But I will not imply that they knew that LENR was real and tried to quash it. I can’t go that far. My judgement has been clouded (every time a beautiful woman walked by); but I did not consciously decide “Hey, I think I’m going to hurt someone; ain’t life grand!”.

          • Alan DeAngelis

            Decent people may be reluctant to believe that some scientists could be this despicable but some of those slime balls were disparaging F&P in public while behind the scenes they were seeking funding for cold fusion!

            see 26:15 min http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htgV7fNO-2k

          • bachcole

            These things are going to have to be proven before I am going to believe them. What you show at 26:15 is what someone else has claimed to be true, very despicable acts. I tend to believe it. But this does not paint hundreds of people. Remember that the people asking for funds and denying LENR in public did not know for sure that LENR was real, so there was plenty of wiggle room in their minds to rationalize that hey I can’t get funding for it so screw it.

    • pg

      If you look at the pictures, Mr. Testa, the head of Enea, is the only one that looks unhappy, and unwilling to be photographed. That is because the ENEA center in Frascati depends on ITER funding to function, and he got his job advocating a new deal in hot nuclear energy for Italy.
      That is why a personality like Bill Gates is so valuable. No one (in Italy) can deny him access to public research, and no paid troll can go after him, whatever he says about the technology

  • Sanjeev

    The question is why did Gates visit ENEA and not IH or Rossi, since the book he read, if he did, was about Rossi and his impossible invention.
    Rossi refuses to comment, but did not deny the meeting in a straightforward way. Note his positive or negative mantra.
    —-
    Giuliano Bettini
    November 15th, 2014 at 7:12 AM
    Dear Andrea,
    did Bill Gates met with you also?
    Ciao,
    Giuliano Bettini.
    —-
    Andrea Rossi
    November 15th, 2014 at 8:20 AM
    Giuliano Bettini:
    I cannot give information about whom I meet, either positive or negative.
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

  • Alan DeAngelis

    Actually this is what I had in mind (don’t be put off by it being a cartoon). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGk5ioEXlIM

    • Alan DeAngelis

      And the Titanic isn’t sitting at the bottom of the Atlantic. It’s its sister ship the Olympic. If you liked the above cartoon watch this (it’s another fascinating part of the story).
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USoBDtW_dAA

  • Alan DeAngelis

    Decent people may be reluctant to believe that some scientists could be this despicable but some of those slime balls were disparaging F&P in public while behind the scenes they were seeking funding for cold fusion!

    see 26:15 min http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htgV7fNO-2k

  • Alan DeAngelis

    Sorry, I think I took us off topic. This is an idea (not so crazy) that I think should get more attention. This is a link to the pdf of Thomas Passell’s presentation at ICCF-18 (I think) where he talks about stripping reactions. https://mospace.umsystem.edu/xmlui/bitstream/handle/10355/36832/EvidenceDeuteronStrippingMetals.pdf?sequence=1

    See where he crunches the numbers for deuterium-titanium stripping reactions. The sun will burn out long before we run out of titanium.

  • Alan DeAngelis

    Sorry, I think I took us off topic. This is an idea (not so crazy) that I think should get more attention. This is a link to the pdf of Thomas Passell’s presentation at ICCF-18 (I think) where he talks about stripping reactions. https://mospace.umsystem.edu/xmlui/bitstream/handle/10355/36832/EvidenceDeuteronStrippingMetals.pdf?sequence=1

    See where he crunches the numbers for deuterium-titanium stripping reactions. The sun will burn out long before we run out of titanium.