Report: Gates Foundation Close to a $1 Billion Agreement to Fund ENEA for Fusion Research [Update: Human Translation into English]

Thanks to Giuliano Bettini for posting a link to this story today.

An article published on the Italian news site L’Arena reports that Microsoft founder Bill Gates is close to an agreement to provide funding to the Italian technology research agency ENEA following his visit to ENEA’s research laboratories in Frascati, Italy last week.

According to this article (as best as I can understand from Bing and Google translations, The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation will provide $1 billion in funding ENEA and its scientists for research into fusion.

Commissioner of ENEA Frederico Testa told L’Arena that the Gates Foundation “is considering financing some projects of ENEA, and our researchers, who are working with outstanding results worldwide, managed to arouse the interest the chief economist of the Foundation, the physics professor Lowell Wood, a close associate of Gates.”

We do know from earlier reports that cold fusion was discussed at the meeting with Gates at ENEA, but it’s not clear from this article whether this funding will be used specifically for ‘cold’ fusion — ENEA’s involvement in ITER (a hot fusion project) is mentioned by Testa.

UPDATE:

Below is a human translation kindly provided by an Italian reader of E-Cat World:

<< An agreement is possibly very near>>
“His foundation is considering in supporting some of our projects” said the commissioner Testa.
Bill Gate’s foundation will invest in some of ENEA’s thermonuclear fusion projects. Much is due to the efforts of ENEA’s Commissioner, the Veronese Federico Testa, who last Wednesday toured Microsoft Corporation’s founder around the research centre of Frascati.

“Bill Gates arrived Wednesday and he paid us a visit, at our ENEA’s Frascati premises for about 3.5 hours” confirmed Federico Testa to this press. “A visit to get an understanding of how our laboratories work, and to witness first hand and asses some of our experiments”, confirmed the commissioner, a professor of economics and business management at the University of Verona.

Asked about the reason of Gate’s visit Testa replied; “His foundation”, referring to the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, ‘’is evaluating in financing some of ENEA’s projects and researchers, working with outstanding results of worldwide importance, they managed to bring their work to the attention of the Foundation’s economical officer, the Professor of Physics Lowell wood, close associate of Gates.”

The foundation created in the January 2000 by Bill Gates and his wife Melinda French, has as its director William H. Gates Senior, Bill Gate’s father and by Patty Stonesifer , an ex American- delegation member to the UN, worth 38 billion dollars, is considered as the world’s major foundation actively involved in medical research, AIDS and Malaria.

“We have reached a statement of understanding” continued Testa, “to identify practical collaboration steps. The foundation will invest about 1 billion dollars in research. ENEA has all the technical and human characteristics to be successful in this venture: if we manage to get this money it will be not only to my satisfaction, as a commissioner, but also for the government. ENEA is the Italian leader in an international project regarding cold and hot fusion, call ITER. From this project ENEA is a 13% share holder, and with this share, it managed to get to Italy the 65% of funds reserved to it, that is 987 million euro. With all this money, many Italian industries have, and are still working. If the agreement with Bill Gates is reached, it can change Italy’s faith, concluded ENEA’s Veronese number one.

  • Daniel Maris

    Wow! Cold, hot or tepid fusion???

    • Ophelia Rump

      MicroFusion

    • US_Citizen71

      Mr. Fusion ( :

  • BroKeeper

    Being a front runner of innovation himself Bill Gates has always been interested in innovative technologies peering over the horizon. Unless convinced otherwise on his ENEA mission trip, ITER is far from a new advance technology. I think his vision is focused on something with much more financial and social potential. Anyone have an idea what that may be?

  • Brokeeper

    Being a front runner of innovation himself Bill Gates has always been interested in innovative technologies peering over the horizon. Unless convinced otherwise on his ENEA mission trip, ITER is far from a new advance technology. I think his vision is focused on something with much more financial and social potential. Anyone have an idea what that may be?

  • HOLY MOTHER LODE

    We have achieved escape velocity.

    • Ophelia Rump

      If and when he signs the check.
      Although the rumor alone could be bigger news than LENR has gotten so far.

  • HOLY MOTHER LODE

    We have achieved escape velocity.

    • Ophelia Rump

      If and when he signs the check.
      Although the rumor alone could be bigger news than LENR has gotten so far.
      The Gates foundation currently funds about 4 Billion a year. 1 Billion would be substantial even by their standards.

  • jousterusa

    Daniel, per the article, the answer is “Thermonuclear fusion.” I doubt Bill Gates has an iota of interest in atomic weapons, but there is no indication, I’m sorry to say, that he is contemplating this kind of investment in cold fusion. If he was, the place for his money to go would be the MFMP Project, and I pray and profoundly hope he will move in that direction! As I reported on CNN, he has had a copy of “An Impossible Invention” since April, when author Mats Lewan gave it to him, and according to La Stampa, one of the two biggest daily newspapers in Italy, he seemed especially interested during his briefing in the topic of cold fusion, which was discussed last. We need to get some discussion of this information into American newspapers, with the hope that the Foundation will address the contemplated purpose of the gift and that it is indeed the development of cold fusion devices a la the Energy Catalyzer. Nonetheless, if my instincts are correct, this story is the most important that Frank Acland and E-Catworld.com has ever published. It will absolutely galvanize media coverage and wipe away the skepticism like a tsunami!

    I am anxious to discuss one other thing with respect to the E-Cat. I cannot believe the best engineers in the world, even absent a comprehensive theory, are not already attempting to “reverse engineer” the small E-Cat device tested in Lugano, Switzerland by the Third Independent Party panel (of course, the en gineers won’t have the device itself to reverse, so it may be a hit-or-miss proposition). But whether they have one or not just now, it can’t be too long until they acquire one to reverse. The fact is that they will start producing knock-offs of the small device almost instantly, and that the world will indeed be flooded by them. I am reminded of a former client, Josh Reynolds, who invented the “mood ring.” It was a simple idea, and just a few months after its debut, they were everywhere – and he wasn’t producing or selling those millions of them! When people learn how to generate electricity from thr E-Cat – a billion dollars would certainly cover that research cost – it will quickly become ubiquitous (for non-English speakers, that means it will be everywhere!). I have just been diagnosed with cancer and am afraid I will not be with you much longer, but I believe coverage I have offered of the promise of cold fusion will leave the world a better place with my passing.

    • Mr. Moho

      According to Google Translate, Federico Testa said this:

      Enea is Italian leader for an international project on fusion both hot and cold, called ITER

      From what I gather from discussions on Cobraf this seems to be correct, but it was noted that his wording is weird as ITER isn’t about cold fusion research, to date. As far as I understand, Testa is an ITER proponent and some researchers at ENEA do indeed work on Cold Fusion (Violante, De Ninno, etc), so perhaps this is just the result his bias showing. Maybe he doesn’t want to (or can?) publicly admit that the agreement is mostly about funding cold fusion research instead of ITER.

      Besides, most photos I’ve seen about this event show Gates meeting with Violante, who is mostly known for his cold fusion research work. It’s likely that he spent most of his time at ENEA talking with him. Also, I don’t think it would make much sense for him to agree to fund ITER, if he wants to “save the world” in a timely manner.

      • Yes, especially ITER is already receiving large tax investments from several countries.

        Investing in hot fusion makes no sense for me.

      • Ophelia Rump

        Why do they work so hard to bury the Cold Fusion message?
        If anyone can support it openly it is Bill Gates.

        • GreenWin

          Fear. And crushed EGOs.

    • Bruce Williams

      Hi Joust, very sorry to read about your health problems, I have just recovered from TB, yes TB ! after 9 nasty months, I do hope you can pull through, I have enjoyed reading your contributions to this blog although I dont comment very often. I do hope you see the LENR dream happen !Best wishes.

      • LuFong

        I’m not so sure of the $1B. The article appears to say that the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation spend $1B annually on research. I would imagine only some of this would go toward ENEA and some of their research. Perhaps an Italian speaker can comment on the article and clarify this.

        Still this is a great for fusion research and will generate more positive worldwide media publicity towards cold fusion.

        • Mr. Moho

          I think you’re right. The Bill&Melinda Gates foundation awards yearly a rather large amount (both in number and magnitude) of grants to many organizations. There’s a searchable database on its website:

          http://www.gatesfoundation.org/How-We-Work/Quick-Links/Grants-Database

          Therefore, I don’t think the foundation is likely going to provide ENEA alone 1 billion $ in funds, but this in turn makes it more plausible that a smaller sum could be awarded for projects solely or mainly involving cold fusion research. ITER is a state-funded multi-billion euro money sink and I don’t think a few more additional million dollars would be going to make a difference. Cold fusion research, on the other hand, would benefit greatly from that.

          However, if the Bill&Melinda Gates foundation is actually going to award a 1B$ research grant to ENEA, then we’ll know it’s for something really important and groundbreaking.

        • Bruce Williams

          Lu Fong, Hullo. I lived in Italy 40 years ago and still speak/understand the language : you are right,Bill and Melinda Gates spend 1bn on ALL research projects, there is no mention that this sum will be spent on CF ! There also seems to be some confusion in the original article about fission/fusion…..support(financial). I have read the article 3 times, I understand almost all of it , but it is confused. Perhaps Frank could ask for a clarification ?

          • ecatworld

            A kind Italian reader has provided an English translation which I added to the post above. One section:

            “We have reached a statement of understanding” continued Testa, “to identify practical collaboration steps. The foundation will invest about 1 billion dollars in research. ENEA has all the technical and human characteristics to be successful in this venture: if we manage to get this money it will be not only to my satisfaction, as a commissioner, but also for the government. ENEA is the Italian leader in an international project regarding cold and hot fusion, call ITER. From this project ENEA is a 13% share holder, and with this share, it managed to get to Italy the 65% of funds reserved to it, that is 987 million euro. With all this money, many Italian industries have, and are still working. If the agreement with Bill Gates is reached, it can change Italy’s faith, concluded ENEA’s Veronese number one.

          • georgehants

            Still no clear answer as to how much if any will go directly to Cold Fusion research.

          • ecatworld

            George, I hope if the deal is sealed, that the cold fusion gets more than a crumb! I have hope — since looking at the photos provided, Bill Gates seemed to be paying particular attention to Vittorio Violante who is ENEA’s leader in the LENR program.

          • georgehants

            Admin, I think on this Website that has done with a few others, in my opinion, some of the most important scientific work ever, in releasing uncensored Evidence etc on Cold Fusion that can be found nowhere else in the “free” World, almost everybody is praying for that breakthrough.
            If that comes from Mr. Gates or a reincarnation of Gandhi, I think we will all celebrate with good justification.

            Admin have just changed computers and my e-mail address that is giving the auto moderator a problem, could you fix please. 🙂

          • ecatworld

            It helps that I am my own boss — however we just report here what scientists and researchers around the world are doing with CF.

          • Alan DeAngelis

            Is this Vittorio Violante? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UTvaX3vRtRA (a little after 7:10 min.)
            I think he’s known for making the most reliable palladium for LENR reactions.

          • deleo77

            From that translation it does imply that some of the money may go towards cold fusion projects. If the investment is a billion then “some” money could mean a lot of money. If this happens certainly members of the press will pick up on it and do a story with more details. A billion dollars would be a massive investment, even for Gates.

          • BroKeeper

            CBS 60 Minutes just reported tonight on California Central Valley’s deep water table depletion due to continuous pumping for its vegetable industry. This is not only happening in California but
            throughout most arid prone countries now in drought conditions. This is serious enough that it is predicted in ten years water will be used as political leverage against neighboring countries and by terrorists if not already exhausted. News of this sort only adds to the urgency for a miracle LENR cure and an influx of financial resources for its quick materialization and support. Could the reserves of wealthy philanthropists/investors like that of Bill Gates and Warren Buffet be those timely resources we desperately need now? It may appear so.

          • Heath

            Perhaps instead of an XL pipeline, Cali needs a fresh water pipeline from rainy Washington. Money better spent. Let’s see–wealthy oil companies making it easier for themselves to refine Canadian oil or fresh water for a huge part of the American population to survive a drought

          • BroKeeper

            Sorry, logic does not prevail here.

          • Heath

            Well said!

          • Axil Axil

            Desalination is being considered as an alternative supply for water in Central California, where water for agricultural and residential use is in short supply. In 2009, the California State Water Resources Control Board issued a Cease and Desist Order, requiring CalAm to reduce its pumping from the Carmel River by 70% by 2016. The Carmel River is the primary water source for the region, so alternative water sources are necessary. The Central Coast also relies heavily on groundwater supplies; however, problems with seawater intrusion make this an unsustainable alternative. As a result, many proposals for desalination facilities have been submitted as a possible solution to the water gap

            With the immanent avaliblity of LENR as a power source. The intrusion of seawater into the aquifer can be turned into an advantage as the water table can transport seawater throughout the agricultural area at no cost. A distributed LENR based desalination unit could make each farm water independent.

            Turning seawater into fresh water using a LENR reactor is nothing new. When water is required, in most of the commercially available systems, a high-pressure pump is activated to remove salt from the water via reverse-osmosis. A LENR based process works by transforming heat into mechanical work by means of a turbine.

            The cost of a 1200 foot well cost $250,000 now, and deeper wells will be required as time goes on.

            The proposed currently available desalination technologies for the Central Coast are energy intensive. Producing a million gallons of desalinated seawater uses about 15,000 kWh , which is equivalent to the energy use of 913 California homes per day. Most of the total energy use goes towards the reverse osmosis process (70%), while pre- and post-treatment and pumping account for 13% each. Pumping water from the ocean to the plant is an additional 7%.

            Given the high construction and energy costs of desalination, customer water bills are expected to increase. For example, a typical customer should expect their water bills to increase by approximately 40% by 2018 if the proposed Monterey Peninsula Water Supply Project is approved. Below is an estimate of what a typical customer will expect to pay with the implementation of the Monterey Peninsula Water Supply Project.

            With the distributed LENR solution to water desalinization, the farmer bears the cost of the water leaving the electric costumer unaffected.

            The LENR fired turbine drives the high-pressure pump directly and it is fresh water that is produced instead of electricity (at a much lower cost).

          • BroKeeper

            Let’s hope the great innovators-turned-billionaires reinvest their fortunes back into
            the country that provided the divine opportunities to make those fortunes. Many have already. Strength within will avail humanitarian efforts without.
            “Everyone to whom much was given, of him much will be required, and from him to whom they entrusted much, they will demand the more” is not an empty trivial philosophy to be ignored.

          • jousterusa

            ‘Tis a consumation devoutly to be wished.” But that’s how the Carnegie ibraries, and then Carnegie-Mellon University and the Carnegie and Mellon Foundations and Rockefeller Foundation got tarted. Over the years, they have done very important things for millions of people. It would be great, too, if the John D. MacArthur Foundation gave one of its “genius” grants to Andrea Rossi, who surely is one and merits it.

          • Sanjeev
          • artefact

            “Since 2002, Siliconrepublic has embraced its mission to be Ireland’s No 1
            resource for technology news. Today it is read by over 250,000 people
            each month (unique visitors, Google Analytics, October, 2012)” Not bad.

          • ecatworld

            Thanks, artefact. Much bigger audience than ECW 🙂

        • Ophelia Rump

          About 4 Billion Annually.

          3.4 two years ago.
          3.6 last year.

          • Buck

            Yes, I saw that also.

            This leaves the door open that $1B is a possible commitment towards Cold Fusion.

          • GreenWin

            Unless the Gates Foundation comes forward, this provides “plausible deniability” to ENEA and hot fusionists. This is a tactic typical of classified programs. But government has to bite the bullet soon. The longer the delay, the more it looks like collusion of special interests.

          • Buck

            GW,

            I agree. The key point is whether the Gates Foundation describes the commitment in sufficient detail to leave no questions.

            I can only wonder whether a public investment in CF in an Italian Research Institute rather than a US institute will act as the catalyst for a shift in US Institutions (Government & Academic).

          • GreenWin

            Of course we should not forget that DARPA has had a long and (presumably) prosperous relationship with ENEA for many years now. Gates Foundation emphasizes their global mandate, so that’s a match. If you were to shield US institutions from folly, it would make sense to start the public CF ball rolling overseas. Less collateral damage.

          • Ophelia Rump

            It could be 1 B over ten years also.

          • Buck

            Darn . . . those cheapskates!

            And, I suppose they are going to ask for an annual report for their $100M?

          • Ophelia Rump

            In hard copy, bound, and with glossy pictures. Selfish things.

    • Bob Greenyer

      My heart goes out to you and your family, thank you for your hard work to support this field.

    • ecatworld

      Hi Joe, sorry to hear of your health news — I hope there is some way to beat it.

    • georgehants

      All best wishes.

    • EEStorFanFibb

      Thank you for your hard work and all the best to you and your family.

    • LuFong

      Joe, I really admire your enthusiastic support for LENR and your optimism to what LENR can bring to the human condition. I hope you get that interview with Rossi and things work out for the best for you. Please keep posting and doing your thing as an American reporter as long as you are able.

    • ronzonni

      Sorry I did not read the last few lines of your post initially. I also wish you the best for recovery. There are cancer treatment marvels out there these days and I hope one of them will work for you. Don’t give up!

    • artefact

      Sorry to hear that. You might want to research about CBD and your illness. I read about good results.

    • Fortyniner

      I’m very sorry to hear about your diagnosis, Joe. If I ever receive similar news I hope I can manage as well as you. Don’t give up – there are many avenues available beyond mainstream medicine’s meagre offerings. http://www.cancertutor.com

    • GreenWin

      Joe, you’ve been a major positive contributor to ECW since the beginning. Many of us greatly appreciate the work you’ve done to bring this gift to our planet. Stay positive. You’ve got a lot of friends.

    • Dods

      Sorry to hear the bad news Joe. The passion with with you follow the subject like most of the people here is a selfless one, as you can see the potential it has to make other peoples lives better. This in my book makes you a great man Joe so fight this with the passion you have for others.

    • Christina

      I’m sorry to hear that you have cancer, sir.

      Please try “60 Seconds to Slim” as according to the author the things we eat are the cause of our diseases–we ought to be eating foods that are alkaline (even though they don’t taste as good as which are acid.)

      Please, try it. It is a small price to pay for health. Its author is Michelle Schoffro Cook. It is on Amazon.

      God bless you.

      Christina

      • bachcole

        This could be a complete waste, or it could be a major breakthrough.

      • Curbina

        The translation does not help much to reveal the mistery, but it is implying that ITER also is about cold fusion. Now, if he was 3.5 hours at ENEA and the labs he visited were the LENR research, I only think that the whole deal is about LENR and the article is just trying to be ambiguus enough to not give it away for “the general public”.

        • ecatworld

          I think it could have simply been a misinterpretation by the reporter of what Testa said. He could have said something like — “we are doing research in cold fusion and hot fusion (through ITER)”

          • Curbina

            Makes sense. I still think the billion goes to LENR research, as hot fusion and ITER are well funded enough.

    • Joniale

      I am sorry to hear about your sickness. I hope you can beat that. Please keep being optimist!. I have read all what you have said and find you have a very good political sense. If you decide to stop writing now then i will miss you a lot. :(.
      Please Joe be strong! we are with you!

    • Andre Blum

      joe, I wish you all possible strength to fight this terrible disease.

    • BroKeeper

      Joe,
      I can only imagine how you are coping from this shocking news. I will be praying for you and your family for complete recovery – ‘for all things are possible’. Keep up the good fight as you have through your service of great perspective insights. Please stay on board as long as your strength allows. Your Bro

    • NT

      Joe, you have brought much to this community with your writings and wit. Please keep up as you are able and maintain a strong outlook as you fight this enemy. It can be whipped, God bless you and yours whom stand with you in this fight…

    • Jimr

      I totally agree. When I first read this a couple days ago, I knew it had to be incorrect. If Gates has committed a few million into the project, he is maybe having second thoughts about it being publicized so early in the game. I feel it was a mistake to make this public in the first place.

      • Jimr

        This was in responce to PG, sorry.

    • James Andrew Rovnak

      Keep working on that cancer problem. Don’t give up! Try a food change also! Plenty & I mean plenty of bright colored Vegies at every meal, 10 cups full. http://terrywahls.com/ If its prostate appy hydrogen peroxide to area! Jim Co Q10, B150s, Tumeric, etc try the supplements also! Visit Dr Oz program – balance conventional with Alternative medicine!

  • jousterusa

    Daniel, per the article, the answer is “Thermonuclear fusion.” I doubt Bill Gates has an iota of interest in atomic weapons, but there is no indication, I’m sorry to say, that he is contemplating this kind of investment in cold fusion. If he was, the place for his money to go would be the MFMP Project, and I pray and profoundly hope he will move in that direction! As I reported on CNN, he has had a copy of “An Impossible Invention” since April, when author Mats Lewan gave it to him, and according to La Stampa, one of the two biggest daily newspapers in Italy, he seemed especially interested during his briefing in the topic of cold fusion, which was discussed last. We need to get some discussion of this information into American newspapers, with the hope that the Foundation will address the contemplated purpose of the gift and that it is indeed the development of cold fusion devices a la the Energy Catalyzer. Nonetheless, if my instincts are correct, this story is the most important that Frank Acland and E-Catworld.com has ever published. It will absolutely galvanize media coverage and wipe away the skepticism like a tsunami!

    I am anxious to discuss one other thing with respect to the E-Cat. I cannot believe the best engineers in the world, even absent a comprehensive theory, are not already attempting to “reverse engineer” the small E-Cat device tested in Lugano, Switzerland by the Third Independent Party panel (of course, the en gineers won’t have the device itself to reverse, so it may be a hit-or-miss proposition). But whether they have one or not just now, it can’t be too long until they acquire one to reverse. The fact is that they will start producing knock-offs of the small device almost instantly, and that the world will indeed be flooded by them. I am reminded of a former client, Josh Reynolds, who invented the “mood ring.” It was a simple idea, and just a few months after its debut, they were everywhere – and he wasn’t producing or selling those millions of them! When people learn how to generate electricity from thr E-Cat – a billion dollars would certainly cover that research cost – it will quickly become ubiquitous (for non-English speakers, that means it will be everywhere!). I have just been diagnosed with cancer and am afraid I will not be with you much longer, but I believe coverage I have offered of the promise of cold fusion will leave the world a better place with my passing.

    • Bruce Williams

      Hi Joust, very sorry to read about your health problems, I have just recovered from TB, yes TB ! after 9 nasty months, I do hope you can pull through, I have enjoyed reading your contributions to this blog although I dont comment very often. I do hope you see the LENR dream happen !Best wishes.

    • Ronzonni

      About reverse engineering, Dr. Rossi has been selling megawatt plants for three years and wrote that he had sold several (I am not clear on how many exactly). Each such plant consists of about 100 individual ecats. Why would someone not have taken one or more of those ecats apart and performed sophisticated analyses of the contents?

      I am sure there would be a contract of some sort but given the stakes, I doubt that this would stop anyone. So while engineers may not have a hot cat to reverse engineer, it seems pretty sure that they have multiple copies of the steam generating type to look at.

    • Bob Greenyer

      My heart goes out to you and your family, thank you for your hard work to support this field.

    • Frank Acland

      Hi Joe, sorry to hear of your health news — I hope there is some way to beat it.

    • georgehants

      All best wishes.

    • Thank you for your hard work and all the best to you and your family.

    • ronzonni

      Sorry I did not read the last few lines of your post initially. I also wish you the best for recovery. There are cancer treatment marvels out there these days and I hope one of them will work for you. Don’t give up!

    • clovis ray

      Joe, so sad to hear of your diagnoses , you and i have the same dream, i’m 65 and also have not long on this earth, I too could, pass on knowing i had a hand in making a better place for my kids and grand kids, thank you sir for your work towards this end. please keep up your good work, i to agree we need to get the word to bill somehow about MF/MP, Dr. Rossi said himself they and one of their team was the most likely to replicate the device, question is how to do that, maybe Mats Lewan , can help now that bill has his book, OUR GUYS NEEDS HELP, please anyone that can help , now is the time to speak up, and help save our world, you won’t be forgotten,

      • georgehants

        clovis, jousterusa, You guys and all us oldies on page are I think trying to work for the young, next generations and those in need now in this World.
        If we have made the smallest difference then it is all worthwhile.
        The most sincere spiritual prayers to you both.

    • artefact

      Sorry to hear that. You might want to research about CBD and your illness. I read about good results.

    • I’m very sorry to hear about your diagnosis, Joe. If I ever receive similar news I hope I can manage as well as you seem to be doing. Don’t give up – there are many avenues available beyond mainstream medicine’s meagre offerings. http://www.cancertutor.com

    • bkrharold

      Remember Fleischmann and Pons stumbled on anomalous heat production by accident. since then much has been learned and published about what works and under what conditions. Any scientist worth his salt, willing to devote the time and energy should be able to replicate and study the effect.
      I am so sorry to hear of your illness. I hope you wont be offended if I mention Simpson oil, which is derived from high CBD marijuana. There have been several reports of people using it, and recovering from some forms of cancer after doctors had given up all hope. Please don’t be offended I mean no disrespect. Best wishes to you.

      • Robert Ellefson

        Fleischmann and Pons did NOT “stumble on anomalous heat production by accident” ! Please make no mistake about it, Fleischmann in particular had been considering theories about inducing fusion in a Pd-D system for many years before he began his work with Pons. What they “stumbled on” was a means of producing heat that wasn’t exactly following the hot-fusion model they presumed would occur, but they set out to produce energy in their experiments, and they succeeded in doing so, and most certainly not by accident.

    • GreenWin

      Joe, you’ve been a major positive contributor to ECW since the beginning. Many of us greatly appreciate the work you’ve done to bring this gift to our planet. Stay positive. You’ve got a lot of friends.

    • Dods

      Sorry to hear the bad news Joe. The passion with which you follow the subject like most of the people here is a selfless one, as you can see the potential it has to make other peoples lives better. This in my book makes you a great man Joe so fight this with the passion you have for others.

    • Christina

      I’m sorry to hear that you have cancer, sir.

      Please try “60 Seconds to Slim” as according to the author the things we eat are the cause of our diseases–we ought to be eating foods that are alkaline (even though they don’t taste as good as which are acid.)

      Please, try it. It is a small price to pay for health. Its author is Michelle Schoffro Cook. It is on Amazon.

      God bless you.

      Christina

    • Joniale

      I am sorry to hear about your sickness. I hope you can beat that. Please keep being optimist!. I have read all what you have said and find you have a very good political sense. If you decide to stop writing now then i will miss you a lot. :(.
      Please Joe be strong! we are with you!

    • Andre Blum

      joe, I wish you all possible strength to fight this terrible disease.

    • Brokeeper

      Joe,
      I can only imagine how you are coping from this shocking news. I will be praying for you and your family for complete recovery – ‘for all things are possible’. Keep up the good fight as you have through your service of great perspective insights. Please stay on board as long as your strength allows. Your Bro

    • NT

      Joe, you have brought much to this community with your writings and wit. Please keep up as you are able and maintain a strong outlook as you fight this enemy. It can be whipped, God bless you and yours whom stand with you in this fight…

    • James Andrew Rovnak

      Keep working on that cancer problem. Don’t give up! Try a food change also! Plenty & I mean plenty of bright colored Vegies at every meal, 10 cups full. http://terrywahls.com/ If its prostate appy hydrogen peroxide to area! Jim Co Q10, B150s, Tumeric, etc try the supplements also! Visit Dr Oz program – balance conventional with Alternative medicine!

  • sebbie

    Let’s not get too excited too soon. Chances are this money is directed towards the type of fusion research that is accepted by mainstream science. I.e. the Lockheed Martin announcement or ITER type.

  • Buck

    For those who play the game of “Follow The Money”, tracing the news over
    the last few days back to Cold Fusion will be a very big sign.

    I
    would like to think that most objective analysts will recognize that
    Hot Fusion has enough money available across the global landscape . . .
    leaving Cold Fusion as the needy step child in the ENEA research portfolio.

    And, it is telling
    that ENEA is the targeted recipient and not a US research institution.
    For me this raises the question: How will the Money Men of the US
    Research Institutions respond to this change in the wind?

  • Buck

    For those who play “Follow The Money”, tracing the news over the last few days back to Cold Fusion will be a very big sign.

    I would like to think that most objective analysts will recognize the obvious, that Hot Fusion has enough money available across the global landscape . . . leaving Cold Fusion as the needy stepchild in the ENEA research portfolio, and that $1B will have a massive impact.

    And, it is telling that ENEA is the targeted recipient and not a US research institution. For me this raises the question: How will the Money Men of the US Research Institutions respond to this change in the wind?

  • Bob Greenyer

    I think people are missing the obvious, NO HOT FUSION was going on in those reaction vessels and on those monitoring computers in that lab, None, nada – zilch.

    • Fortyniner

      As GreenWin pointed out a couple of days ago, away from pro-LENR news sources, the simple trick of ‘losing’ the word ‘cold’ is regularly being employed to give the impression that it is some kind of hot fusion that has attracted Gates’ attention.

      • GreenWin

        I suspect a “deal” of sorts in requiring Gates to invest in a program able to appear to be hot fusion. This of course to protect the badly bruised egos of the hot fusionists. Rather pathetic really. It does however provide a gentle way for CERN, PPPL, ITER and whoever is left at MIT, to grasp the idea LENR is fusion future.

        • georgehants

          I have been sitting here with my crystal ball and it tells me that not very far in the future, main-line science etc. is going to start informing the masses that they have discovered a Wonderful new form of energy.
          That their brilliant experts have been slaving undercover to bring Cold Fusion to the people and if the taxpayers will just give their benevolent fund fifty billion then they may be able to release Cold Fusion just as the last drop of oil is being taxed at 1000% and supplied to the public.

          • Bob Greenyer

            I’m not sure, but I think you may be expressing some cynicism…

            I am not sure what the value to Bill is of investing into Hot Fusion, it is already massively funded. It also would never likely deliver the kind of step change in cheap energy to the poor in India.

            I have lived in India for 6.5 of the past 7 years, only 2% of the citizens pay income tax, and the fuel was so heavily subsidised and still they man on the street there struggles (and I don’t mean in the way the average western citizen feels the pinch). 850 million are farmers and basically self-sufficient. Right now there is a cataclysmic problem with the water table in many states, it is a far more pressing problem than oil, gas or coal and there is not the resources to use these energy systems to help the water crisis. Something needs to be done fast. Bill travels there regularly, in part, because Indians have massively help build his fortune, they coded a lot of Microsofts applications that billions use every day and they support it and build systems with it too.

          • GreenWin

            George, I’ve mentioned before, LENR provides a fascinating view of human EGO run amok. These hot fusionists and academics are so insecure in their souls they will attempt to take credit for someone else’s work. It would not surprise me if higher powers decide this infantile behavior disqualifies humans from entry into the cosmic family.

  • Bob Greenyer

    I think people are missing the obvious, NO HOT FUSION was going on in those reaction vessels and on those monitoring computers in that lab that he was taking so much interest in, None, nada – zilch.

    • As GreenWin pointed out a couple of days ago, away from pro-LENR news sources, the simple trick of ‘losing’ the word ‘cold’ in reports about Gates’ interest in CF is regularly being employed to give the impression that it is some kind of hot fusion that has attracted his attention.

      • GreenWin

        I suspect a “deal” of sorts in requiring Gates to invest in a program able to appear to be hot fusion. This of course to protect the badly bruised egos of the hot fusionists. Rather pathetic really. It does however provide a gentle way for CERN, PPPL, ITER and whoever is left at MIT, to grasp the idea LENR is fusion future.

        • georgehants

          I have been sitting here with my crystal ball and it tells me that not very far in the future, main-line science etc. is going to start informing the masses that they have discovered a Wonderful new form of energy.
          That their brilliant experts have been slaving undercover to bring Cold Fusion to the people and if the taxpayers will just give their benevolent fund fifty billion then they may be able to release Cold Fusion just as the last drop of oil is being taxed at 1000% and supplied to the public.

          • Bob Greenyer

            I’m not sure, but I think you may be expressing some cynicism…

            I am not sure what the value to Bill is of investing into Hot Fusion, it is already massively funded. It also would never likely deliver the kind of step change in cheap energy to the poor in India.

            I have lived in India for 6.5 of the past 7 years, only 2% of the citizens pay income tax, and the fuel was so heavily subsidised and still they man on the street there struggles (and I don’t mean in the way the average western citizen feels the pinch). 850 million are farmers and basically self-sufficient. Right now there is a cataclysmic problem with the water table in many states, it is a far more pressing problem than oil, gas or coal and there is not the resources to use these energy systems to help the water crisis. Something needs to be done fast. Bill travels there regularly, in part, because Indians have massively help build his fortune, they coded a lot of Microsofts applications that billions use every day and they support it and build systems with it too.

          • georgehants

            Wonderful day

          • georgehants

            Bob, you are preaching to the converted regarding the poor and yes I am very cynical regarding science and Cold Fusion.
            It is Wonderful the work that Mr. Gates does with his money but in my eyes does not make him anymore “good” than the small person who gives away a far larger percentage of their wealth to help others.Unfortunately
            in this World people spending their time gaining personal wealth are in
            most cases regarded higher than say a nurse, sewerage worker, etc etc.
            who are the ones, I believe, that first should be admired (speaking simply)

          • GreenWin

            George, I’ve mentioned before, LENR provides a fascinating view of human EGO run amok. These hot fusionists and academics are so insecure in their souls they will attempt to take credit for someone else’s work. It would not surprise me if higher powers decide this infantile behavior disqualifies humans from entry into the cosmic family.

  • Ivy Matt

    “Thermonuclear fusion” means hot (nuclear) fusion, but you can’t trust journalists not to mix up the story, especially when science is involved. It makes no sense to me that Bill Gates would go to Italy to fund ITER. The EU already supports ITER heavily. If Gates were really concerned about ITER, I would expect him to visit Princeton or General Atomics to help shore up US support for the project. Also, there’s no general fund for ITER. Each member (the EU being a single member) contributes different parts of the reactor.

    That doesn’t necessarily mean he isn’t interested in hot fusion. I’m not terribly familiar with ENEA-Frascati’s research, but I do know that they have been working with the Kurchatov Institute in Russia on a project (another tokamak, though much smaller than ITER) called Ignitor. As the name suggests, the goal is to achieve fusion ignition, and they’re hoping to beat ITER to the punch.

    Not that I have any doubt ENEA-Frascati could spend $1 billion on cold fusion experiments, but for that much money (assuming Gates really is prepared to part with that much money), I would expect him to spread it around a little. Does anyone know if he visited any other research labs recently?

  • I recently sent snail mail letters to Bill Gates, Paul Allen, Warren Buffett, Larry Ellison, and Philip Knight (Nike shoes billionaire) suggesting they invest in LENR technology. Reaching members of Congress is tough, and I think the private sector will move on this faster than government. The frequent claim that the oil industry is blocking LENR, I believe, is totally without foundation. The resistance comes from the over-sized egos and pride of the old school physics community and the renewable energy cultists. The renewable energy people want more pretty windmills, not compact little reactors that actually work. The news media is mainly so dumb and superficial that they cannot reason out for themselves what is going on, so they just follow the old school physics crowd. People are scared to cover LENR news. It is Orwellian how both government and local utilities push lies and impossible energy solutions. My local utility is pushing windmills and the Climate Change religion as if it were proven science, this after year after year of subnormal temperatures in my state. They even tell us not to eat meat because that is a cause of global warming. Is it the job of a local utility to tell us what to eat? Why not tell people to stop passing gas, as that unleashes the greenhouse gas, methane. The USA is pretty insane these days, but I hope these dark days won’t end our existence before real energy solutions finally come to market. I think the truth always comes out in the end, but will it come soon enough?

    • GreenWin

      Orwellian? Or just infantile programming of our hologram? The LENR story is so revealing of the corruption in mainstream institutions as to be unbelievable. But here we have it. An utterly unrealistic, misanthropic simulation of life.

    • Frechette

      New Zeeland was going to pass a flatulence law taxing sheep ranchers for methane pollution. The government finally decided to rethink the idea after the farm lobby went into an uproar.

      • BroKeeper

        They could construct a dome over NZ as one of the largest natural gas reserves.

    • Bernie777

      Climate change is proven science!

      • My arguments against that shaky position can be found at http://renewable.50webs.com/climate.html

        • Bernie777

          I read your website, big pictures of an angry Al Gore just does not make for a convincing argument. Here are some interesting stats on why 20% of US population are still climate change deniers.

          http://www.businessinsider.com/here-are-the-people-most-likely-to-be-climate-change-deniers-2014-9

          • Gee, you saw the picture of Gore and nothing else? You “deny” all the evidence, the links, the videos, the quotes, the logic, the historical climatic record.

            1) I do not believe in any religion, so your silly skin deep article does not apply to me.

            2) How many Americans can think for themselves?

            In the USA about 40% of the population cannot find Canada on a map. Parrots can be easily brainwashed, especially when something is wrapped in the veil of science. If you pay so-called scientists to find evidence for a predetermined conclusion, what you get is junk science, not real science. The head of the IPCC essential admitted just that.

            Rajendra Pachauri said “We are an intergovernmental body and we do what the governments of the world want us to do. If the governments decide we should do things differently and come up with a vastly different set of products we would be at their beck and call.”

          • Bernie777

            Here is a listing of 47 pages of scientists, hundreds of them, who helped write the IPPC report on climate change, also given below, these scientists are not “Parrots…easily brainwashed”.

            https://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/ar5/ar5_authors_review_editors_updated.pdf

            http://ipcc-wg2.gov/AR5/images/uploads/WG2AR5_SPM_FINAL.pdf

            Climate change is a scientific fact, but facts are not going to change the minds of many climate change deniers because they are deciding based on a belief system not facts.

          • Scientists are the same as anyone else. They have to make a living. If you are paid to find a conclusion determined by your boss, you are inclined to find that conclusion so you make money. That is why so many dangerous drugs get passed by the FDA. The scientific method requires neutrality of mind.

            The world climatic history shows that Earth temperatures do not track atmospheric CO2 levels. The atmosphere is not getting warmer. The oceans are not getting warmer. There is no unusual rise in ocean levels. Oceans have been slowing rising since the last ice age. That is entirely normal. When ice ages are over, the world is much warmer than it is today, so we are still coming out of the last ice age. We still have glaciers, another sign we are still coming out of an ice age. Storms and weather related disasters are below average, not above average. There is no evidence that the mild warming trend that occurred during the 1980s and early 1990s had anything to do with CO2 levels. If it did, we would be much warmer today because we have continued to add more CO2 and methane to the atmosphere.

            It is a good idea to reduce CO2 output as a precaution, but not through draconian, economy killing laws. We should not mess with nature if we do not have to, but we also should not get hysterical and lose perspective. We face many more certain and proven threats than global warming. One is collapse of the human food supply caused by topsoil erosion. Overpopulation and illegal immigration (read illegal invasion) are far bigger threats than the theorized threat of global warming. Obama is doing everything he can to increase topsoil erosion (biofuel scam) and increase illegal invasion (amnesty for invaders). We are committing suicide but worried about “climate change”.

          • Bernie777

            Oh, maybe a little crack in that belief system, ( “It is a good idea to reduce CO2 output as a precaution”), that government and science are little more than worthless bureaucrats that can do very little good.

          • You never read my article. You are very inattentive.

          • Bernie777

            I do read your articles, I do not buy into your belief system.

          • From my essay.

            “I do not deny that man has an influence on Earth’s climate, or that a future dangerous global warming trend is entirely possible. I deny that hysterical thinking is useful for making wise policy decisions. Scare tactics are pushing people to support destructive polices that have already had tragic consequences. Climate Change theology skeptics are branded as “climate change deniers,” which is essentially the same as calling someone a blasphemer. Many have been fired from university and government jobs for not believing that man made global warming is currently a serious threat. This small minded attitude is typical of many religions, not of real science. There have been a number of substantiated allegations that some scientists have tweaked and/or faked data to fit their beloved apocalyptic religion. [See Climategate 2.0: New E-Mails Rock the Global Warming Debate]

            http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2011/11/23/climategate-2-0-new-e-mails-rock-the-global-warming-debate/

            This kind of fraud is rather common among scientists testing drugs for pharmaceutical companies. A strong profit motive or a heavy belief system bias is not helpful to the proper implementation of the scientific method, which requires neutrality and an open mind.”
            ————
            Yet you insinuated that I somehow changed my mind when I wrote a much shorter version of that as a post. You either did not read the article or you have very poor reading comprehension.

          • Bernie777

            Am I wrong to think you do not believe it is important the world community act immediately to mitigate climate change, with one of these actions being to drastically, immediately, reduce the use of fossil fuels, which should include an effective carbon tax, and much larger incentives to use non-fossil fuel energy sources?

            If your answer to the above is “No”, then, that is our major and important disagreement. You tend to blame the messenger, trying to find fault in the minor aberrations in the data and those presenting it, which does not change the big picture, our world’s environment, the world we are going to give our grand kids; is in trouble. I view the above position as very dangerous, because it gives leaders of the world cover to do nothing.

            If your answer to the above question is YES, I apologize for not understanding your position.

          • I oppose carbon taxes because that is a destructive, needless method. I support research into LENR and simplified hot fusion because that is the only effective way to reduce CO2 emissions. Biofuels increase CO2, methane, and nitrous oxide emissions. Windmills and solar schemes reduce greenhouse gas level to such a tiny extent as to be insignificant. The US Government’s own study said that. SEE – http://www8.nationalacademies.org/onpinews/newsitem.aspx?RecordID=18299&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+nationalacademies%2Fna+%28News+from+the+National+Academies

            States that force renewable energy schemes on people only increase the cost of everything, because everything we do is produced with energy. The Wall Street Journal wrote an editorial that said “The states with mandates paid 31.9% more for electricity than states without them.” – http://www.energytribune.com/10908/wind-energy-the-wheels-are-coming-off-the-gravy-train#sthash.RE0e5vKQ.dpuf

            The Earth has experienced major ice ages when atmospheric CO2 levels were 10 time higher than they are today. Water vapor is the important greenhouse gas that gets the job done. CO2 is a very minor greenhouse gas and there is not much of it. We need to prioritize our worries and protect our borders, bring home our troops, ban biofuels to protect our topsoil, and get out of red ink through lowering taxes, not raising them. All Climate Change cultists do out of hysteria over a relatively minor risk is doing far more harm than good.

          • Bernie777

            At least you now know why we disagree, our problem is much more immediate than you want to recognize.

        • Bernie777

          I would like to answer you but Admin keeps deleting my reply.

          • ecatworld

            Not that I can remember, Bernie.

          • Bernie777

            Maybe there is a bug at work, just had another removed. (:

        • Bernie777
        • Bernie777
  • I recently sent snail mail letters to Bill Gates, Paul Allen, Warren Buffett, Larry Ellison, and Philip Knight (Nike shoes billionaire) suggesting they invest in LENR technology. Reaching members of Congress is tough, and I think the private sector will move on this faster than government. The frequent claim that the oil industry is blocking LENR, I believe, is totally without foundation. The resistance comes from the over-sized egos and pride of the old school physics community and the renewable energy cultists. The renewable energy people want more pretty windmills, not compact little reactors that actually work. The news media is mainly so dumb and superficial that they cannot reason out for themselves what is going on, so they just follow the old school physics crowd. People are scared to cover LENR news. It is Orwellian how both government and local utilities push lies and impossible energy solutions. My local utility is pushing windmills and the Climate Change religion as if it were proven science, this after year after year of subnormal temperatures in my state. They even tell us not to eat meat because that is a cause of global warming. Is it the job of a local utility to tell us what to eat? Why not tell people to stop passing gas, as that unleashes the greenhouse gas, methane. The USA is pretty insane these days, but I hope these dark days won’t end our existence before real energy solutions finally come to market. I think the truth always comes out in the end, but will it come soon enough?

    • Robert Ellefson

      “…year after year of subnormal temperatures in my state.” Don’t these climate abnormalities you are experiencing seem like they could be a form of climate change to you? Remember that uniformly warmer air temperatures are *not* what climate models suggest will be the outcome of our extensive atmosphere-modification efforts during the anthropocene. Areas of increased precipitation and even areas of colder-than-normal temperatures have been predicted by climate models for decades now. Wielding the argument of your local air temperature observations against the bulk of climate change science is like using the “dead grad student” argument against cold fusion. It doesn’t fit.

      • Baloney. I live in Oregon and the Climate Change predictions for us are wetter and hotter, and we have been colder and dryer. The Climate Change hoax is just like astrology. It has so many loopholes in the theory that you can make anything fit the theory at will. The long term historical record proves that Earth temperatures do not track atmospheric CO2 levels and they never have, not now, not a thousand years ago, not ten thousands years ago. The best site on climate change nonsense is Climate Depot at http://www.climatedepot.com/ By the way, what is your sign? (joke)

        • Robert Ellefson

          All models are wrong. Some models are useful.

      • georgehants

        Robert, the climate models you quote are exactly the same if the World was entering an ice-age.
        Science actually believes that if it has a consensus on a topic then god will play along.
        When crazy science can put forward a good argument for ignoring the True Evidence for Cold Fusion or UFO’s then they may gain a small amount of respect.

      • georgehants

        Robert, the climate models you quote are exactly the same if the World was entering an ice-age.
        Science actually believes that if it has a consensus on a topic then god will play along.
        When crazy science can put forward a good argument for ignoring the True
        Evidence for Cold Fusion or UFO’s then they may gain a small amount of
        respect.
        Admin could you sort out my moderation please. thank you

        • bachcole

          Nice!!! Given the number of climate computer models these guys run, it seems like the I Ching to me. They just pick the model run that they like and toss the ones that they don’t like.

      • georgehants

        Robert, the climate models you quote are exactly the same if the World was entering an ice-age.
        Science actually believes that if it has a consensus on a topic then god will play along.
        When crazy science can put forward a good argument for ignoring the True Evidence for Cold Fusion or UFO’s then they may gain a small amount of respect.
        ——
        Admin could you fix my moderation please.

    • GreenWin

      Orwellian? Or just infantile programming of our hologram? The LENR story is so revealing of the corruption in mainstream institutions as to be unbelievable. But here we have it. An utterly unrealistic, misanthropic simulation of life.

    • Frechette

      New Zeeland was going to pass a flatulence law taxing sheep ranchers for methane pollution. The government finally decided to rethink the idea after the farm lobby went into an uproar.

      • Brokeeper

        They could construct a dome over NZ as one of the largest natural gas reserves.

    • Bernie Koppenhofer

      Climate change is proven science!

      • My arguments against that shaky position can be found at http://renewable.50webs.com/climate.html

        • Bernie Koppenhofer

          I read your website, big pictures of an angry Al Gore just does not make for a convincing argument. Here are some interesting stats on why 20% of US population are still climate change deniers.

          http://www.businessinsider.com/here-are-the-people-most-likely-to-be-climate-change-deniers-2014-9

          • bachcole

            That 20% is a big fat lie. I am an AGW denier and proud of it. Virtually everyone of those 20% know that the climate changes. That is precisely why we don’t believe AGW. And I am sure that that 20% number is also a big fat lie in that it is way too low.

          • Bernie Koppenhofer

            No, the Petition site you sent me is “the big fat lie”. (:

          • bachcole

            Aside from the fact that is disagrees with you, could you please explain why it is a lie and why your 20% is not a lie?

            Oh, and before I forget, this argument is completely irrelevant now that LENR++ is proven. We are just like a bunch of rams trying to prove who is the most powerful, when all of the females are absent.

          • Allan Kiik

            No deniers, just smart.
            They had enough “Smart pills” from climate scientist for that…
            http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/11/15/dr-trenberth-redux/

          • Gee, you saw the picture of Gore and nothing else? You “deny” all the evidence, the links, the videos, the quotes, the logic, the historical climatic record.

            1) I do not believe in any religion, so your silly skin deep article does not apply to me.

            2) How many Americans can think for themselves?

            In the USA about 40% of the population cannot find Canada on a map. Parrots can be easily brainwashed, especially when something is wrapped in the veil of science. If you pay so-called scientists to find evidence for a predetermined conclusion, what you get is junk science, not real science. The head of the IPCC essential admitted just that.

            Rajendra Pachauri said “We are an intergovernmental body and we do what the governments of the world want us to do. If the governments decide we should do things differently and come up with a vastly different set of products we would be at their beck and call.”

          • Bernie Koppenhofer

            Here is a listing of 47 pages of scientists, hundreds of them, who helped write the IPPC report on climate change, also given below, these scientists are not “Parrots…easily brainwashed”.

            https://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/ar5/ar5_authors_review_editors_updated.pdf

            http://ipcc-wg2.gov/AR5/images/uploads/WG2AR5_SPM_FINAL.pdf

            Climate change is a scientific fact, but facts are not going to change the minds of many climate change deniers because they are deciding based on a belief system not facts.

          • Scientists are the same as anyone else. They have to make a living. If you are paid to find a conclusion determined by your boss, you are inclined to find that conclusion so you make money. That is why so many dangerous drugs get passed by the FDA. The scientific method requires neutrality of mind.

            The world climatic history shows that Earth temperatures do not track atmospheric CO2 levels. The atmosphere is not getting warmer. The oceans are not getting warmer. There is no unusual rise in ocean levels. Oceans have been slowing rising since the last ice age. That is entirely normal. When ice ages are over, the world is much warmer than it is today, so we are still coming out of the last ice age. We still have glaciers, another sign we are still coming out of an ice age. Storms and weather related disasters are below average, not above average. There is no evidence that the mild warming trend that occurred during the 1980s and early 1990s had anything to do with CO2 levels. If it did, we would be much warmer today because we have continued to add more CO2 and methane to the atmosphere.

            It is a good idea to reduce CO2 output as a precaution, but not through draconian, economy killing laws. We should not mess with nature if we do not have to, but we also should not get hysterical and lose perspective. We face many more certain and proven threats than global warming. One is collapse of the human food supply caused by topsoil erosion. Overpopulation and illegal immigration (read illegal invasion) are far bigger threats than the theorized threat of global warming. Obama is doing everything he can to increase topsoil erosion (biofuel scam) and increase illegal invasion (amnesty for invaders). We are committing suicide but worried about “climate change”.

          • Bernie Koppenhofer

            Oh, maybe a little crack in that belief system, ( “It is a good idea to reduce CO2 output as a precaution”), that government and science are little more than worthless bureaucrats that can do very little good.

          • You never read my article. You are very inattentive.

          • Bernie Koppenhofer

            I do read your articles, I do not buy into your belief system.

          • From my essay.

            “I do not deny that man has an influence on Earth’s climate, or that a future dangerous global warming trend is entirely possible. I deny that hysterical thinking is useful for making wise policy decisions. Scare tactics are pushing people to support destructive polices that have already had tragic consequences. Climate Change theology skeptics are branded as “climate change deniers,” which is essentially the same as calling someone a blasphemer. Many have been fired from university and government jobs for not believing that man made global warming is currently a serious threat. This small minded attitude is typical of many religions, not of real science. There have been a number of substantiated allegations that some scientists have tweaked and/or faked data to fit their beloved apocalyptic religion. [See Climategate 2.0: New E-Mails Rock the Global Warming Debate]

            http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamestaylor/2011/11/23/climategate-2-0-new-e-mails-rock-the-global-warming-debate/

            This kind of fraud is rather common among scientists testing drugs for pharmaceutical companies. A strong profit motive or a heavy belief system bias is not helpful to the proper implementation of the scientific method, which requires neutrality and an open mind.”
            ————
            Yet you insinuated that I somehow changed my mind when I wrote a much shorter version of that as a post. You either did not read the article or you have very poor reading comprehension.

          • Bernie Koppenhofer

            Am I wrong to think you do not believe it is important the world community act immediately to mitigate climate change, with one of these actions being to drastically, immediately, reduce the use of fossil fuels, which should include an effective carbon tax, and much larger incentives to use non-fossil fuel energy sources?

            If your answer to the above is “No”, then, that is our major and important disagreement. You tend to blame the messenger, trying to find fault in the minor aberrations in the data and those presenting it, which does not change the big picture, our world’s environment, the world we are going to give our grand kids; is in trouble. I view the above position as very dangerous, because it gives leaders of the world cover to do nothing.

            If your answer to the above question is YES, I apologize for not understanding your position.

          • I oppose carbon taxes because that is a destructive, needless method. I support research into LENR and simplified hot fusion because that is the only effective way to reduce CO2 emissions. Biofuels increase CO2, methane, and nitrous oxide emissions. Windmills and solar schemes reduce greenhouse gas level to such a tiny extent as to be insignificant. The US Government’s own study said that. SEE – http://www8.nationalacademies.org/onpinews/newsitem.aspx?RecordID=18299&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+nationalacademies%2Fna+%28News+from+the+National+Academies

            States that force renewable energy schemes on people only increase the cost of everything, because everything we do is produced with energy. The Wall Street Journal wrote an editorial that said “The states with mandates paid 31.9% more for electricity than states without them.” – http://www.energytribune.com/10908/wind-energy-the-wheels-are-coming-off-the-gravy-train#sthash.RE0e5vKQ.dpuf

            The Earth has experienced major ice ages when atmospheric CO2 levels were 10 time higher than they are today. Water vapor is the important greenhouse gas that gets the job done. CO2 is a very minor greenhouse gas and there is not much of it. We need to prioritize our worries and protect our borders, bring home our troops, ban biofuels to protect our topsoil, and get out of red ink through lowering taxes, not raising them. All Climate Change cultists do out of hysteria over a relatively minor risk is doing far more harm than good.

          • Bernie Koppenhofer

            At least you now know why we disagree, our problem is much more immediate than you want to recognize.

          • bachcole

            The pollution (without the AGW-CO2 hysteria) problem is sufficient reason for me to get excited about LENR. AGW is for lemmings and hysterians who can’t think clearly.

          • bachcole

            And here is a list of 31,487 scientists who say that is ain’t so: http://www.petitionproject.org/

            Climate change is a scientific fact. Whether human beings are having much of an impact on it is not a fact, and you can rant and rave until hell freezes over and it won’t change anything.

            For every fact that you list, I can list a fact that counters your argument. What I find interesting is that someone like you who so stubbornly insists that AGW is settled science would be here in cold fusion central. The idea of settled science is highly unscientific.

          • Bernie Koppenhofer

            I thought we had that discussion and you agreed there is no correlation between the science in LENR and the science in AGW, comparing the two is meaningless. Have you changed your mind? As for the “petition” you sent, all you have to do is Google it and you will find it totally discredited.

        • Bernie Koppenhofer

          I would like to answer you but Admin keeps deleting my reply.

          • Frank Acland

            Not that I can remember, Bernie.

          • Bernie Koppenhofer

            Maybe there is a bug at work, just had another removed. (:

        • Bernie Koppenhofer
        • Bernie Koppenhofer
      • bachcole

        Proof is in the heart/mind of the beholder, and with AGW, it isn’t in my heart/mind.

  • GreenWin

    Get real Ivy. The “official” press release from ENEA reprinted verbatim by many papers, doesn’t mention the words cold fusion. Why? They are trying to comprehend the train wreck for hot fusionists. Especially ITER.

  • GreenWin

    Utterly inappropriate Ronzonni. Lack of compassion is endemic to skeptics.

  • ecatworld

    I’m not able to access the ENEA website at the moment. http://enea.it I’m trying to see if there is any mention of this development there.

  • Hi all

    Have MFMP approached Bill Gates?

    Kind Regards walker

    • Bob Greenyer

      No direct approach. However, for the past three years, (and multiple times over the past 6 weeks), I have been regularly informing people I used to work with, at a senior level, at one of the worlds premier financial institutions ( I used to do their presentations, make them look good, was a contractor 3-4 months a year for 10 years ). Some of these same people travel to DAVOS each year – and he goes to Davos – and he sat with Gore this year and Gore knows about LENR.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aen6ubFLSmo

      I also know one of the leads in Googles new technology ops division in Zurich, I send him periodic updates. He is due for another.

  • GreenWin

    HERE is excellent hard evidence of how ENEA’s CF research has been blocked or ignored by “mainstream science.” After watching this video produced by Italian State Television RAI, it is little wonder that George Hants calls mainstream science journals, “comics.”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bujrxqwRwc0
    NOTE: Carlo Rubia, Nobel laureate and past President of ENEA ordered this study of CF back around 2000. The results were positive for He4, proving nuclear reactions in CF.

    • Dods

      Very good video a must watch. Has a short Interview at the end with a subdued Martin Fleischmann. He should of been stood on top of the world.

  • Hi all

    Have MFMP approached Bill Gates?

    Kind Regards walker

    • Bob Greenyer

      No direct approach. However, for the past three years, (and multiple times over the past 6 weeks), I have been regularly informing people I used to work with, at a senior level, at one of the worlds premier financial institutions ( I used to do their presentations, make them look good, was a contractor 3-4 months a year for 10 years ). Some of these same people travel to DAVOS each year – and he goes to Davos – and he sat with Gore this year and Gore knows about LENR.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aen6ubFLSmo

      Watch from 21:31

      I also know one of the leads in Googles new technology ops division in Zurich, I send him periodic updates. He is due for another.

  • GreenWin

    HERE is excellent hard evidence of how ENEA’s CF research has been blocked or ignored by “mainstream science.” After watching this video produced by Italian State Television RAI, it is little wonder that George Hants calls mainstream science journals, “comics.”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bujrxqwRwc0
    NOTE: Carlo Rubia, Nobel laureate and past President of ENEA ordered this study of CF back around 2000. The results were positive for He4, proving nuclear reactions in CF.

    • Dods

      Very good video a must watch. Has a short Interview at the end with a subdued Martin Fleischmann. He should of been stood on top of the world.

  • ecatworld

    New translation added to the post above.

  • Frank Acland

    New translation added to the post above.

  • deleo77

    From that translation it does imply that some of the money may go towards cold fusion projects. If the investment is a billion then “some” money could mean a lot of money. If this happens certainly members of the press will pick up on it and do a story with more details. A billion dollars would be a massive investment, even for Gates.

  • Using LENR as an excuse to troll conventional alternative energy (wind and solar PV), won’t work. They all have their advantages and uses and they are MUCH better than going on as we are burning coal, methane, or oil (or blundering on with fission nuclear with its inherent and unavoidable insane dangers). But when we boil it down… the only answer the anti-solar and wind trolls ever have is… going on as we are. And that is no longer an option.

    Solar PV provides affordable and cost effective decentralized energy production, that is available at historic low cost right now. It will be a long time before LENR will be able to generate large amounts of decentralized electricity for consumers. Hybrid systems of solar PV and hydrogen from water can bridge that gap very well with existing, fully accepted technologies (and the H could also serve as a readily available fuel for transportation… see the work of Dr. Daniel Nocera of Harvard and MIT for details). Engineering breakthroughs will be needed for Direct Electricity Generation from heat, or quite a bit of improvements in smaller, more efficient, and cheaper steam/or and Stirling technologies will be required FIRST. For the short term at least, LENR will make the most sense for either making hot water for heating, or large megawatt-scale steam turbine systems for electrical generation (which means mostly centralized energy production). So in the interim… solar PV and wind make a great deal of sense.

    They also serve in another way: They help bring people to the realization, that although “energy” has remained the same for the last 110 years… their whole lives, the lives of their parents and grandparents… it doesn’t always have to be this way! 🙂 And that realization is very important, and imo, under-rated.

    • So put solar cells on your roof and a windmill in your backyard and see how far that gets you. Fools have been selling the same crap for decades, yet solar and wind account for a very small amount of the world’s energy supply. How much energy can you get from them on a quiet, windless night? You are pushing a false religion that has bankrupted governments all over the world. To be of value, an energy source must have a high energy density. It should work 24 hours a day, seven days a week. It should be affordable on a truthful cost-benefit ratio basis, not on a phony theoretical peak output basis. How much energy can wind and solar produce on a theoretical peak output basis? The answer is a much more than they actually produce on a day to day, 24 hour basis. Can you turn the wind and the sun on and off at will? You are selling snake oil and a giant hoax.

    • Frechette

      All we now need for those who have invested in solar and wind is a cheap way to store electrical energy when the sun doesn’t shine and the wind won’t blow. Any suggestions?

    • BroKeeper

      Steve, this is onboard with what Rossi means with what he recently said, “This is the reason why we are dedicating our lives to this endeavour, to make it integrable (integral) with all the sustainable energy sources.” His intension is to work with or supplement renewable resources (and clean fossil fuels like natural gas) when sun does not shine or
      the wind does not blow when/where feasible.

  • Using LENR as an excuse to troll conventional alternative energy (wind and solar PV), won’t work. They all have their advantages and uses and they are MUCH better than going on as we are burning coal, methane, or oil (or blundering on with fission nuclear with its inherent and unavoidable insane dangers). But when we boil it down… the only answer the anti-solar and wind trolls ever have is… going on as we are. And that is no longer an option.

    Solar PV provides affordable and cost effective decentralized energy production, that is available at historic low cost right now. It will be a long time before LENR will be able to generate large amounts of decentralized electricity for consumers. Hybrid systems of solar PV and hydrogen from water can bridge that gap very well with existing, fully accepted technologies (and the H could also serve as a readily available fuel for transportation… see the work of Dr. Daniel Nocera of Harvard and MIT for details). Engineering breakthroughs will be needed for Direct Electricity Generation from heat, or quite a bit of improvements in smaller, more efficient, and cheaper steam/or and Stirling technologies will be required FIRST. For the short term at least, LENR will make the most sense for either making hot water for heating, or large megawatt-scale steam turbine systems for electrical generation (which means mostly centralized energy production). So in the interim… solar PV and wind make a great deal of sense.

    They also serve in another way: They help bring people to the realization, that although “energy” has remained the same for the last 110 years… their whole lives, the lives of their parents and grandparents… it doesn’t always have to be this way! 🙂 And that realization is very important, and imo, under-rated.

    • So put solar cells on your roof and a windmill in your backyard and see how far that gets you. Fools have been selling the same crap for decades, yet solar and wind account for a very small amount of the world’s energy supply. How much energy can you get from them on a quiet, windless night? You are pushing a false religion that has bankrupted governments all over the world. To be of value, an energy source must have a high energy density. It should work 24 hours a day, seven days a week. It should be affordable on a truthful cost-benefit ratio basis, not on a phony theoretical peak output basis. How much energy can wind and solar produce on a theoretical peak output basis? The answer is a much more than they actually produce on a day to day, 24 hour basis. Can you turn the wind and the sun on and off at will? You are selling snake oil and a giant hoax.

      • The only hoax trying to be pushed is that alternative energy is not only effective and important right now, but that it’s also the largest growth industry on the planet. A lot of corporations who now profit from energy monopolies don’t like that, and pay a lot of people to fight that trend, but it’s not working very well 😉

        • More baloney. If wind, solar, and biofuels were so great, why would they have to be not only subsidised but mandated. Mandated means you are forced to buy the product. Useful products that people truly want to buy do not need to be forced on them. The CHINESE solar panel industry is booming because of idiot politicians in the West mandating they buy their imported products so we can be “energy independent”. Ridiculous! See my YouTube video, *Windmills Kill Birds* at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OQMBdcbMTc and *The Global Biofuel Disaster* at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha7lUWlZaOY End all energy product mandates and subsidies and let the free market decide. Then see what will happen to wind, solar, and biofuels.

          • Mop

            Please don’t overlook the subsidies and very good public deals that exist for oil, gas and coal industries.

            You could also count as “subsidies” the issue that the companies profiting don’t have to pay anything for the rest of the world having to work around issues caused by them through pollution.

            Another idea to think about is, if you today use fossil fuels, those are gone forever. This is not reversible. You could basically argue that you are stealing something from future generations. You might want to count this if you compare wind turbines and fossil fuels, though I don’t know how.

            Meanwhile, if you compare what work and power you have to put into something and
            what you get out of something, the “COP” of wind turbines seems super
            good. Even if it’s modest, it’s still guaranteed profits.

            About killing birds, please look up pictures of machines called “braunkohlebagger” and imagine what those do to wildlife. With machine like these in mind, which work completely as intended, meaning the way they change the environment is not an accident like for example the BP oil spill in the Gulf, it seems like a very bad joke to criticize wind turbines because they might kill birds.

            I agree with you about bio-fuels.

          • My position is that all energy subsidies should be abolished, not just those for renewable energy schemes. People complain about the pollution of fossil fuels, but right now they are keeping us all alive. Without oil we would quickly starve to death, not just you, but your children and your dogs. You have to look at the cost-benefit ratio. How much do you value your life? If you are dead and pollution free, is that a good trade-off?

    • Frechette

      All we now need for those who have invested in solar and wind is a cheap way to store electrical energy when the sun doesn’t shine and the wind won’t blow. Any suggestions?

      BTW I refuse to put solar panels on my roof. Holes get punched through the shingles. Any leaks are a headache for the home owner as are electrical failures of solar panels further down the road. Repairs of anything 20 feet off the ground will cost a minimum of $500 per day. Furthermore, panels have a life of about 15 to 20 years Max. ROI in my part of the country works out to be about 18 years. From an economic stand point it’s thanks but no thanks.

    • Brokeeper

      Steve, this is onboard with what Rossi means when he recently said, “This is the reason why we are dedicating our lives to this endeavour, to make it integrable (integral) with all the sustainable energy sources.” His intension is to work with or supplement renewable resources (and clean fossil fuels like natural gas) when sun does not shine or
      the wind does not blow when/where feasible.

  • Gerard McEk

    I would say that if Bill has some technical gift, and I believe he has, than he would never invest in hot fusion. Terrapower is something which has potential and he rightly donated large amouts of money. Bill is looking for noval research which can benefit humanity. Cold fusion is such a project, but I am not sure why he selected ENEA.

    • GreenWin

      Look at my link below. ENEA proved cold fusion produced nuclear reactions 15 years ago. But somebody… didn’t want the evidence published. We’ve know CF is a source of viable energy since P&F. And with the preposterous claim that ITER does hot AND cold fusion is simply a lie.

  • Gerard McEk

    I would say that if Bill has some technical gift, and I believe he has, than he would never invest in hot fusion. Terrapower is something which has potential and he rightly donated large amouts of money. Bill is looking for noval research which can benefit humanity. Cold fusion is such a project, but I am not sure why he selected ENEA.

    • GreenWin

      Look at my link below. ENEA proved cold fusion produced nuclear reactions 15 years ago. But somebody… didn’t want the evidence published. We’ve know CF is a source of viable energy since P&F. And with the preposterous claim that ITER does hot AND cold fusion is simply a lie.

  • bachcole

    This could be a complete waste, or it could be a major breakthrough.

  • Curbina

    The translation does not help much to reveal the mistery, but it is implying that ITER also is about cold fusion. Now, if he was 3.5 hours at ENEA and the labs he visited were the LENR research, I only think that the whole deal is about LENR and the article is just trying to be ambiguus enough to not give it away for “the general public”.

    • bachcole

      I sure hope so.

    • Frank Acland

      I think it could have simply been a misinterpretation by the reporter of what Testa said. He could have said something like — “we are doing research in cold fusion and hot fusion (through ITER)”

      • Curbina

        Makes sense. I still think the billion goes to LENR research, as hot fusion and ITER are well funded enough.

        • bachcole

          Your reasoning makes perfect sense. I sure hope so.

          You may have forgotten though that just because a person can make himself into the richest man on Earth does not mean that he has any sense about anything else. I guarantee that I know more about health (knowledge that actually makes sick people well) than he does. Being able to garner money does not make one an expert at giving it away.

  • Baloney. I live in Oregon and the Climate Change predictions for us are wetter and hotter, and we have been colder and dryer. The Climate Change hoax is just like astrology. It has so many loopholes in the theory that you can make anything fit the theory at will. The long term historical record proves that Earth temperatures do not track atmospheric CO2 levels and they never have, not now, not a thousand years ago, not ten thousands years ago. The best site on climate change nonsense is Climate Depot at http://www.climatedepot.com/ By the way, what is your sign? (joke)

  • georgehants

    Robert, the climate models you quote are exactly the same if the World was entering an ice-age.
    Science actually believes that if it has a consensus on a topic then god will play along.
    When
    crazy science can put forward a good argument for ignoring the True
    Evidence for Cold Fusion or UFO’s then they may gain a small amount of
    respect.
    ——–
    Admin could you sort out my moderation please.

    • bachcole

      Nice!!! Given the number of climate computer models these guys run, it seems like the I Ching to me. They just pick the model run that they like and toss the ones that they don’t like.

  • Freethinker

    Sorry if I repeat something here but my question is :

    “ENEA is the Italian leader in an international project regarding cold and hot fusion, call ITER.”

    What does that even mean? It sounds like gibberish in my ears.

    Does it mean that Bill and Melinda Gates foundation has in fact pledged money for LENR research? Does anybody have like confirmation on this?

    • BroKeeper

      That’s a very good question. Is there any relationship being developed with IH and Rossi (also Italian) as leaders in LENR research field with ENEA ?

    • bachcole

      It is as clear as a bell. I don’t understand your confusion. Bill Gates either put money into cold fusion, or he wasted his money on hot fusion, or both. We don’t know, yet. Why is that confusing? (:->) Based upon his handling of his contributions to vaccinations, I am going to guess that he went with “expert opinion” and gave all of his 1 billion (probably the biggest charitable gift in the history of the world) to hot fusion.

  • Freethinker

    Sorry if I repeat something here but my question is :

    “ENEA is the Italian leader in an international project regarding cold and hot fusion, call ITER.”

    What does that even mean? It sounds like gibberish in my ears.

    Does it mean that Bill and Melinda Gates foundation has in fact pledged money for LENR research? Does anybody have like confirmation on this?

    • Brokeeper

      That’s a very good question. Also, is there any relationship being developed with IH and Rossi (also Italian) as leaders in LENR research field with ENEA ?

    • clovis ray

      hi buddy, the ITER is a multimillion dollar boondoggle having to do with hot fusion not c/f

      • Freethinker

        Yeah, I know. That’s what so confusing. I guess Frank has it right that it was the journalist who mixed things up. Hope it is confirmed as true properly by the foundation.

    • bachcole

      It is as clear as a bell. I don’t understand your confusion. Bill Gates either put money into cold fusion, or he wasted his money on hot fusion, or both. We don’t know, yet. Why is that confusing? (:->) Based upon his handling of his contributions to vaccinations, I am going to guess that he went with “expert opinion” and gave all of his 1 billion (probably the biggest charitable gift in the history of the world) to hot fusion.

  • GreenWin

    ITER is not now and NEVER has been involved in CF. Any suggestion to the contrary is an outright fabrication. ITER (and all hot fusion) remains a white collar welfare project populated by scientists instructed to dismiss LENR data without review.

  • GreenWin

    ITER is not now and NEVER has been involved in CF. Any suggestion to the contrary is an outright fabrication. ITER (and all hot fusion) remains a white collar welfare project populated by scientists instructed to dismiss LENR data without review.

  • More baloney. If wind, solar, and biofuels were so great, why would they have to be not only subsidised but mandated. Mandated means you are forced to buy the product. Useful products that people truly want to buy do not need to be forced on them. The CHINESE solar panel industry is booming because of idiot politicians in the West mandating they buy their imported products so we can be “energy independent”. Ridiculous! See my YouTube video, *Windmills Kill Birds* at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OQMBdcbMTc and *The Global Biofuel Disaster* at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha7lUWlZaOY End all energy product mandates and subsidies and let the free market decide. Then see what will happen to wind, solar, and biofuels.

  • Buck

    What are the odds of this being picked up and reported in accurate detail by the US Press?

    • BroKeeper

      The first drops of water are beginning to dribble through the dam’s cracks.

    • deleo77

      Even if the investment were just hot fusion, fission, ITER, or just basic nuclear research, a $1 billion investment by Bill Gates to ENEA would certainly be covered by press outlets. It would be a big deal. Would they ask him directly about his thoughts on cold fusion, and if that is part of the investment? Let’s hope so.

  • Buck

    What are the odds of this being picked up and reported in accurate detail by the US Press?

    Oh, and it would have to be any other major US Press outlet in addition to Frank & EcatWorld.

    • Brokeeper

      The first drops of water are beginning to dribble through the dam’s cracks.

      • bachcole

        Yes.

    • deleo77

      Even if the investment were just hot fusion, fission, ITER, or just basic nuclear research, a $1 billion investment by Bill Gates to ENEA would certainly be covered by press outlets. It would be a big deal. Would they ask him directly about his thoughts on cold fusion, and if that is part of the investment? Let’s hope so.

    • bachcole

      Roughly the same odds that Brian Josephson posted for the Report being mentioned in Nature.

      Remember, to see anything here requires some digging, and digging doesn’t seem to be something that reporters like to do.

  • Ophelia Rump

    Frank, I hope you are contacting the Gates Foundation for a press release or confirmation on this.

    • BroKeeper

      And. if so, is there is any connection with IH?

      • Ophelia Rump

        If Frank got a confirmation, he would become transcendent.

        • BroKeeper

          Someone should tether him.

          • Ophelia Rump

            You grab one ankle I will grab the other and we can keep him from floating away!

          • Buck

            Sounds more like a comedy . . . who is going to hold you down.

            Reminds me of that movie scene from my childhood, that laughing scene with Ed Wynn as Uncle Albert in Marry Poppins

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3PmXkKN8V0

          • BroKeeper

            Better idea. I was thinking of tying a brick on his swollen head.

        • ecatworld

          If I get a confirmation, I will make it so this site is only viewable on Internet Explorer . . .

          • BroKeeper

            There goes the neighborhood.

          • Freethinker

            Yeah, I know. That’s what so confusing. I guess Frank has it right that it was the journalist who mixed things up. Hope it is confirmed as true properly by the foundation.

          • Bob Greenyer

            please, on IE5 and Nokia, sorry, I meant to say, Microsoft smart phones.

    • ecatworld

      Thank you for contacting the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation Media Relations Team. This is an automatic response acknowledging your email.

      This email address is for media requests only.

      If you are not a professional journalist, please send your correspondence to info@gatesfoundation.org.

      The foundation’s website has answers to frequently asked questions including information for grant seekers.

      For all general questions related to Grand Challenges Explorations, including submission of ideas, please refer to this website:http://www.grandchallenges.org/Explorations/Pages/ApplicationInstructions.aspx or send questions to GCEHelp@gatesfoundation.org. The media relations team does not respond to inquiries for funding or grant applications.

      Be sure to visit the Gates Foundation Press Room, where you will find links to recent press releases and speeches. We welcome you to follow us on Twitter @gatespress and @gatesfoundation.

      Best,
      Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation Media Relations Team

      • BroKeeper

        Frank, did you get that famous annoying modem sound afterwards?

      • Ophelia Rump

        You come close to being the only professional reporter for this topic.
        Enough said.

  • Ophelia Rump

    Frank, I hope you are contacting the Gates Foundation for a press release or confirmation on this.

    • Brokeeper

      And. if so, is there is any connection with IH?

      • Ophelia Rump

        If Frank got a confirmation, he would become transcendent.

        • Brokeeper

          Someone should tether him.

          • Ophelia Rump

            You grab one ankle I will grab the other and we can keep him from floating away!

          • Buck

            Sounds more like a comedy . . . who is going to hold you down.

            Reminds me of that movie scene from my childhood, that laughing scene with Ed Wynn as Uncle Albert in Marry Poppins

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E3PmXkKN8V0

          • Brokeeper

            Better idea. I was thinking of tying a brick on his swollen head.

        • Frank Acland

          If I get a confirmation, I will make it so this site is only viewable on Internet Explorer . . .

          • Brokeeper

            There goes the neighborhood.

          • Bob Greenyer

            please, on IE5 and Nokia, sorry, I meant to say, Microsoft smart phones.

          • bachcole

            I trust that you are joking. I am a true-blue Linux Mint 17 user.

    • Frank Acland

      Thank you for contacting the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation Media Relations Team. This is an automatic response acknowledging your email.

      This email address is for media requests only.

      If you are not a professional journalist, please send your correspondence to info@gatesfoundation.org.

      The foundation’s website has answers to frequently asked questions including information for grant seekers.

      For all general questions related to Grand Challenges Explorations, including submission of ideas, please refer to this website:http://www.grandchallenges.org/Explorations/Pages/ApplicationInstructions.aspx or send questions to GCEHelp@gatesfoundation.org. The media relations team does not respond to inquiries for funding or grant applications.

      Be sure to visit the Gates Foundation Press Room, where you will find links to recent press releases and speeches. We welcome you to follow us on Twitter @gatespress and @gatesfoundation.

      Best,
      Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation Media Relations Team

      • Brokeeper

        Frank, did you get that infamous annoying modem sound afterwards?

      • Ophelia Rump

        You come close to being the only professional reporter for this topic.
        Enough said.

  • bitplayer

    Try googling “ENEA”. In my returns this article is currently fourth down from the top. But then Google knows what I like to read…

  • bitplayer

    “We have reached a statement of understanding to identify practical collaboration steps” suddenly leaps to “The foundation will invest about 1 billion in research.” and then backs off to “if we manage to get this money”.

    • jousterusa

      Cold fusion is not one of those things that is a bright idea someone has and then someone funds it and we move along. It is a game-changer n the deepest sense of those words. Earth’s game, the big one, will change under its influence. Bill Gates may recognize that, and in fact I’m sure he does. Being the fulcrum upon which the world turns, his billion will uplift a billion or more lives.

  • James Andrew Rovnak

    A nice development. Met Bill years ago in the now defunct Boston Computer Society meetings at the beginning of the personnel computer revolution ! May the Revolution continue with commercializations of lattice assisted nuclear reactions of Rossi et all!

  • Brokeeper

    CBS 60 Minutes just reported tonight on California Central Valley’s deep water table depletion due to continuous pumping for its vegetable industry. This is not only happening in California but
    throughout most arid prone countries now in drought conditions. This is serious enough that it is predicted in ten years water will be used as political leverage against neighboring countries and by terrorists if not already exhausted. News of this sort only adds to the urgency for a miracle LENR cure and an influx of financial resources for its quick materialization and support. Could the reserves of wealthy philanthropists/investors like that of Bill Gates and Warren Buffett be those timely resources we desperately need now? It may appear so.

    • Heath

      Perhaps instead of an XL pipeline, Cali needs a fresh water pipeline from rainy Washington. Money better spent. Let’s see–wealthy oil companies making it easier for themselves to refine Canadian oil or fresh water for a huge part of the American population to survive a drought

      • Brokeeper

        Sorry, logic does not prevail here.

        • Heath

          Well said!

    • Axil Axil

      Desalination is being considered as an alternative supply for water in Central California, where water for agricultural and residential use is in short supply. In 2009, the California State Water Resources Control Board issued a Cease and Desist Order, requiring CalAm to reduce its pumping from the Carmel River by 70% by 2016. The Carmel River is the primary water source for the region, so alternative water sources are necessary. The Central Coast also relies heavily on groundwater supplies; however, problems with seawater intrusion make this an unsustainable alternative. As a result, many proposals for desalination facilities have been submitted as a possible solution to the water gap

      With the immanent avaliblity of LENR as a power source. The intrusion of seawater into the aquifer can be turned into an advantage as the water table can transport seawater throughout the agricultural area at no cost. A distributed LENR based desalination unit could make each farm water independent.

      Turning seawater into fresh water using a LENR reactor is nothing new. When water is required, in most of the commercially available systems, a high-pressure pump is activated to remove salt from the water via reverse-osmosis. A LENR based process works by transforming heat into mechanical work by means of a turbine.

      A 1200 foot well cost about $250,000 now, and deeper wells will be required as time goes on.

      The proposed currently available desalination technologies for the Central Coast are energy intensive. Producing a million gallons of desalinated seawater uses about 15,000 kWh , which is equivalent to the energy use of 913 California homes per day. Most of the total energy use goes towards the reverse osmosis process (70%), while pre- and post-treatment and pumping account for 13% each. Pumping water from the ocean to the plant is an additional 7%.

      Given the high construction and energy costs of desalination, customer water bills are expected to increase. For example, a typical customer should expect their water bills to increase by approximately 40% by 2018 if the proposed Monterey Peninsula Water Supply Project is approved. Below is an estimate of what a typical customer will expect to pay with the implementation of the Monterey Peninsula Water Supply Project.

      With the distributed LENR solution to water desalinization, the farmer bears the cost of the water leaving the electric costumer unaffected.

      The LENR fired turbine drives the high-pressure pump directly and it is fresh water that is produced instead of electricity (at a much lower cost).

      • Brokeeper

        Let’s hope the great innovators-turned-billionaires reinvest their fortunes back into
        the country that provided the divine opportunities to make those fortunes. Many have already. Strength within will avail humanitarian efforts without.
        “Everyone to whom much was given, of him much will be required, and from him to whom they entrusted much, they will demand the more” is not an empty trivial philosophy to be ignored.

        • jousterusa

          ‘Tis a consumation devoutly to be wished.” But that’s how the Carnegie ibraries, and then Carnegie-Mellon University and the Carnegie and Mellon Foundations and Rockefeller Foundation got tarted. Over the years, they have done very important things for millions of people. It would be great, too, if the John D. MacArthur Foundation gave one of its “genius” grants to Andrea Rossi, who surely is one and merits it.

  • bitplayer

    Which, if true, confirms that ENEA is playing with LENR. Gee, I wonder if any other energy organizations are doing so?

  • jousterusa

    BroKeeper, you hit on something that has bothered me: ITER and cold fusion are competitors. You may have seen the article, “http://coldfusionnow.org/cold-fusion-defended-against-iter-at-channeling-conference/,” in which the ITER people urged folks to put cold fusion on the back burner because they needed so much money and not so much was available. This internecine war could be very costly for cold fusion, as the hot fusion boys still have the ear of governments – or some of them.

    • Freethinker

      The money needed to have a fair go at LENR is only a tiny fraction of all the money hot fusion has spent over the years.

    • BroKeeper

      This is why Rossi/IH are not asking for assistance from government grants. Eventually ITER will not be in the equation and they are afraid of that. Again the Hot Fusionists prefer to hold off suffering release for their own agenda. Please wolves shed your sheep suits and support the real answer to the energy shortage!

  • jousterusa

    BroKeeper, you hit on something that has bothered me: ITER and cold fusion are competitors. You may have seen the article, “http://coldfusionnow.org/cold-fusion-defended-against-iter-at-channeling-conference/,” in which the ITER people urged folks to put cold fusion on the back burner because they needed so much money and not so much was available. This internecine war could be very costly for cold fusion, as the hot fusion boys still have the ear of governments – or some of them.

    • Freethinker

      The money needed to have a fair go at LENR is only a tiny fraction of all the money hot fusion has spent over the years.

    • Brokeeper

      This is why Rossi/IH are not asking for assistance from government grants. Eventually ITER will not be in the equation and they are afraid of that. Again the Hot Fusionists prefer to hold off suffering release for their own agenda. Please wolves shed your sheep suits and support the real answer to the energy shortage!

  • mytakeis

    It is indeed invigorating to swim in this ocean of enthusiasm. I can’t help but feel something is in between CF and the standard PV/wind alternatives. Rossi is a hero. He brought the light of day into LENR reality. But it just seems that something, perhaps known to those who’ve profited off of superhuman innovations, is about to ‘develop’ which, properly funded, would marry the array into a contiguous whole! Destiny, so it seems.

  • HS61AF91

    It is indeed invigorating to swim in this ocean of enthusiasm. I can’t help but feel something is in between CF and the standard PV/wind alternatives. Rossi is a hero. He brought the light of day into LENR reality. But it just seems that something, perhaps known to those who’ve profited off of superhuman innovations, is about to ‘develop’ which, properly funded, would marry the array into a contiguous whole! Destiny, so it seems.

  • blanco69

    We know now that Gates is aware of Rossi. There’s no way Gates would be talking to Enea without firstly getting an understanding of the LENR situation in general. I sent the Gates foundation everything I had on Rossi back in 2011. What’s interesting is that Gates is thinking about Enea as the best fit for his billion bucks and not one of the more favoured horses in the race. My guess is that he’s shooting directly for power generation and hoping to bypass the ‘hot water’ phase.

    • Ophelia Rump

      How would you generate power without going through a steam phase?

      • blanco69

        Sorry OR, what I meant was that Rossi’s next step is to provide heat for his secret customer using over 100 ecats and 100 plus computers….??? I’m positive that, if he had the COP and contol to provide the required input for a turbine, then he’d be going for that as a star prize. Efficient power production has to be the goal. Who needs cheap industrial heat when power is almost free?

    • Bernie777

      You are probably right, he wants most effective research outcomes that is probably not Rossi and IH.

  • blanco69

    We know now that Gates is aware of Rossi. There’s no way Gates would be talking to Enea without firstly getting an understanding of the LENR situation in general. I sent the Gates foundation everything I had on Rossi back in 2011. What’s interesting is that Gates is thinking about Enea as the best fit for his billion bucks and not one of the more favoured horses in the race. My guess is that he’s shooting directly for power generation and hoping to bypass the ‘hot water’ phase.

    • Ophelia Rump

      How would you generate power without going through a steam phase?

      • blanco69

        Sorry OR, what I meant was that Rossi’s next step is to provide heat for his secret customer using over 100 ecats and 100 plus computers….??? I’m positive that, if he had the COP and contol to provide the required input for a turbine, then he’d be going for that as a star prize. Efficient power production has to be the goal. Who needs cheap industrial heat when power is almost free?

    • Bernie Koppenhofer

      You are probably right, he wants most effective research outcomes that is probably not Rossi and IH.

  • Freethinker

    All this is without doubt very very enticing and exciting, but I will not celebrate the fortune of LENR until I see the statement on this web page http://www.gatesfoundation.org/Media-Center/Press-Releases

  • Freethinker

    All this is without doubt very very enticing and exciting, but I will not celebrate the fortune of LENR until I see the statement on this web page http://www.gatesfoundation.org/Media-Center/Press-Releases

  • Miau

    A more correct translation of this passage: “La Fondazione ogni anno finanzia, con circa 1 miliardo di dollari, la ricerca” is “The foundation invests each year about 1 billion dollars in research.”

    ie it sounds like he’s mentioning how much the Gates foundation overall invests in research not specifically how much they could invest in ENEA if things go on as expected.

    p.s. sono italiano.

    • Bruce Williams

      There has been a lot of confusion over this point : the Gates foundation invest 1B$ each year in research, that does NOT mean that they are going to invest 1B$ in LENR only !The sum they will invest, and with whom, has yet to be decided.

      • Miau

        Yes. BTW Commissioner Testa seems to be very hopeful (almost confident) that ENEA will get an unspecified part of the sum the Gates Foundation will invest in research. That is the meaning that makes most sense from his words. The wording is prone to misunderstanding even in italian.

  • Miau

    you should also investigate Lowell Wood, he was not there by chance, it is years he is paying great attention to LENR (probably starting from the time he was Teller’s associate). He has a somewhat disturbing curriculum btw.

  • Bruce Williams

    There has been a lot of confusion over this point : the Gates foundation invest 1B$ each year in research, that does NOT mean that they are going to invest 1B$ in LENR only !The sum they will invest, and with whom, has yet to be decided.

    • Daniel Maris

      But they might invest a billion over a number of years? That’s not impossible is it?

  • Sanjeev
    • artefact

      “Since 2002, Siliconrepublic has embraced its mission to be Ireland’s No 1
      resource for technology news. Today it is read by over 250,000 people
      each month (unique visitors, Google Analytics, October, 2012)” Not bad.

      • Frank Acland

        Thanks, artefact. Much bigger audience than ECW 🙂

    • bachcole

      If Gates tells of his support of cold fusion, he will get severely castigated in the short run and be a hero in the long run. If Gates supports hot fusion, he will be a hero in the short run and a BUM in the long run.

      If Gate announces his support of cold fusion, all heaven will break out.

      Does anyone want to donate to the Skeptopath Psychiatric Hospitalization Fund?

  • pg

    Hi Frank, In my opinion it would be better to cancel the words 1Billion form the title.
    It is simply not what has been said by the ENEA CEO. What was said is that, the foundation invests 1 billion dollars a year in research, and not that the foundation will finance ENEA with 1 billion dollars.

  • pg

    Hi Frank, In my opinion it would be better to cancel the words 1Billion form the title.
    It is simply not what has been said by the ENEA CEO. What was said is that, the foundation invests 1 billion dollars a year in research, and not that the foundation will finance ENEA with 1 billion dollars.

    • bachcole

      I don’t doubt you for a second. But I know that in 2007, Gates invested $100 million in an algae energy company, just before the crash.

      {I also noticed that that sort of investment in energy research sort of evaporated immediately after the crash: an economics lesson.}

  • Jimr

    I totally agree. When I first read this a couple days ago, I knew it had to be incorrect. If Gates has committed a few million into the project, he is maybe having second thoughts about it being publicized so early in the game. I feel it was a mistake to make this public in the first place.

    • Jimr

      This was in responce to PG, sorry.

  • Chris the 2nd

    Interesting, Mats Lewan on Twitter has stated that Bill Gates bought a copy of An Impossible Invention on the 30th of March

    Mats Lewan‏@matslew
    Did I mention that Gates got my book ‘An Impossible Invention’ when in Stockholm, March 30? Maybe he read it. http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/11/16/report-gates-foundation-close-to-a-1-billion-agreement-fund-enea-for-fusion-research/ … #LENR

  • Chris the 2nd

    Interesting, Mats Lewan on Twitter has stated that Bill Gates bought a copy of An Impossible Invention on the 30th of March

    Mats Lewan‏@matslew
    Did I mention that Gates got my book ‘An Impossible Invention’ when in Stockholm, March 30? Maybe he read it. http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/11/16/report-gates-foundation-close-to-a-1-billion-agreement-fund-enea-for-fusion-research/ … #LENR

  • My position is that all energy subsidies should be abolished, not just those for renewable energy schemes. People complain about the pollution of fossil fuels, but right now they are keeping us all alive. Without oil we would quickly starve to death, not just you, but your children and your dogs. You have to look at the cost-benefit ratio. How much do you value your life? If you are dead and pollution free, is that a good trade-off?

  • bitplayer

    Thanks much for this clarification. Google translate by itself gives:

    “The Foundation is funding every year , with about $ 1 billion , the research “.

    There’s no semantic meaning within the passage indicating any plan to give ENEA any amount of money.

  • jousterusa

    I jjust had a conversation with a press person at the Gates Foundaton (Lydia Walker, (206) 709-3100), and have some good and some bad news. The bad news first: The Gates Foundation does not and will not have any role in providing money for cold fusion research. The good news: What may be contemplated is a personal investment from Mr. Gates. Just re-state this: the Gates Foundation is not involved at all in this issue, and calls the headline incorrect.. I am awaiting word on the investment issue from his personal office, whuch may or may not respond to my inquiry (I imagine this kind of investment would not be revealed until it is made, if it ever is; this doesn’t mean that an investment is any less likely; Mr Gates has a longstanding interest in the topic).

    • Daniel Maris

      Well done you newshound! Thanks v. much for shedding some light on this.

    • ecatworld

      Thanks very much, Joe — very enlightening. So it could be a personal interest by BG.

  • jousterusa

    I jjust had a conversation with a press person at the Gates Foundaton (Lydia Walker, (206) 709-3100), and have some good and some bad news. The bad news first: The Gates Foundation does not and will not have any role in providing money for cold fusion research. The good news: What may be contemplated is a personal investment from Mr. Gates. Just to re-state this: the Gates Foundation is not involved at all in this issue, and calls the headline incorrect.. I am awaiting word on the investment issue from his personal office, which may or may not respond to my inquiry (I imagine this kind of investment would not be revealed until it is made, if it ever is; this doesn’t mean that an investment is any less likely; Mr Gates has a longstanding interest in the topic).

    • Frank Acland

      Thanks very much, Joe — very enlightening. So it could be a personal interest by BG.

  • JedRothwell

    Dr. Woods has attended many ICCF conferences. He is well versed in this field.

  • JedRothwell

    Dr. Wood has attended many ICCF conferences. He is well versed in this field.

  • Bernie777

    No, the Petition site you sent me is “the big fat lie”. (:

    • bachcole

      Aside from the fact that is disagrees with you, could you please explain why it is a lie and why your 20% is not a lie?

      Oh, and before I forget, this argument is completely irrelevant now that LENR++ is proven. We are just like a bunch of rams trying to prove who is the most powerful, when all of the females are absent.

  • Bernie777

    I thought we had that discussion and you agreed there is no correlation between the science in LENR and the science in AGW, comparing the two is meaningless. Have you changed your mind? As for the “petition” you sent, all you have to do is Google it and you will find it totally discredited.