# Rossi in Interview Mentions Volvo Connection, SSM Duration (Andreas Moraitis)

The following post was made by Andreas Moraitis — thank you, Andreas!

Web TV interview with Rossi by Salvo Mandarà in Italian:

http://salvo5puntozero.tv/intervista-chiacchierata-con-andrea-rossi-inventore-e-cat-12122014/

As far as I could follow, there are two new bits of information:

(18:25) SSM lasts ¾ of the time (18/24h).

(23:40) Some time ago Rossi said that he had spoken with a manager of a car manufacturer who told him that development and licensing of automotive applications would take a very long time. The news (at least for me) is that this manager was the CEO (amministratore delegato) of Volvo. Rossi has mentioned Volvo later on JoNP as one of the companies who are possibly looking into LENR.

• artefact

Rossi mentioned the SSM (3/4) some months ago. I tink at early 2014.

• Ged

I remember that too. Even years ago, I think, it was the same thereabouts to the low temp design.

• hempenearth

It is in Self Sustain Mode for that many hours. Edit: that is no external input for 3/4 of the time. Yes good news

• psi2u2

So now we need someone really smart in difficult math to calculate what that means for the Cops achieved — if the Lugano results were 3.2 without ever using SSM, what is the achieved Cop putting those two numbers together?

• Facepalm

If you take the numbers from the Lugano report (page 22), and the E-Cat is on 25% of the time, a COP of 3.2 would mean a COP of 12.4 if the self-sustained (on/off) mode is included.

COP 3.6 = about 14.4 including the self-sustained (on/off) mode.

• psi2u2

It answers a pretty big question about the level of progress of Cop – if Rossi can truly sustain cops of 9-14 over these extended periods of time, then it is not surprising that oil prices are in free-fall.

• Christina

Christina

• Andreas Moraitis

Obviously I’ve missed that – sorry. He also confirms the COP of 3.5 from the latest test, where SSM was not used. A value of 3.5 at ¼ of the time would mean that the overall COP is 14, or slightly below, since the control system will require some input. It seems that all the complaints about the seemingly ‘low’ COP have been pointless.

• Christina

Thank you for explaining it, Mr. Moraitis.

Christina

• artefact

Rossi mentioned the SSM (3/4) some months ago. I tink at early 2014.

• Ged

I remember that too. Even years ago, I think, it was the same thereabouts to the low temp design.

• Andreas Moraitis

Obviously I’ve missed that – sorry. He also confirms the COP of 3.5 from the latest test, where SSM was not used. A value of 3.5 at ¼ of the time would mean that the overall COP is 14, or slightly below, since the control system will require some input. It seems that all the complaints about the seemingly ‘low’ COP have been pointless.

• Christina

Thank you for explaining it, Mr. Moraitis.

Christina

• bachcole

Hmmm. Volvo? Isn’t that a Swedish company? What a co-incidence!!! What is it with these Swedes that they should be so comfortable with being so open minded? Or perhaps I should say, “What is it with so many other nationalities, including and especially my own, that they can’t manage to be open-minded?”

I don’t know if y’all realize that many, many elements were discovered by Swedes and often given names that refer to Sweden. Sweden is not new to high tech and cutting edge science.

In honor of their wonderful soon-to-be contribution to LENR++, I will do a short study and list all of the elements discovered by Swedes and list it here, along with explanations of their names. (:->)

• psi2u2

Is it possible that living on the edge of the arctic circle predisposes you to have an open mind, especially when it comes to practical science?

• NT

Or staying warm…

• Christina

So what does “SSM last 3/4 of the time (18/24h) mean exactly, please?

Christina

P.S.: It sounds like very good news. Is it?

• hempenearth

It is in Self Sustain Mode for that many hours. Edit: that is no external input for 3/4 of the time. Yes good news

• Guest

So now we need someone really smart in difficult math to calculate what that means for the Cops achieved — if the Lugano results were 3.2 without ever using SSM, what is the achieved Cop putting those two numbers together?

• Facepalm

If you take the numbers from the Lugano report (page 22), and the E-Cat is on 25% of the time, a COP of 3.2 would mean a COP of 12.4 if the self-sustained (on/off) mode is included.

COP 3.6 = about 14.4 including the self-sustained (on/off) mode.

• psi2u2

It answers a pretty big question about the level of progress of Cop – if Rossi can truly sustain cops of 9-14 over these extended periods of time, then it is not surprising that oil prices are in free-fall.

• bachcole

But only if they know about it. Since no one over there in the Persian Gulf has done anything more than even mention LENR once or twice, I doubt that they know what a COP is, left alone what a COP of 10 is going to do to them.

It seems to me that all of the God talk (you know: eternity and infinity) in the middle east should have predisposed them to be aware that something finite like oil could end or that something better could come along.

• NT

“It sounds like very good news. Is it?” YES!

• Christina

Christina

• Mark

Volvo, eh? As an interesting side note, according to The Ocean X Team’s website, Volvo is sponsoring The Ocean X Team’s efforts to study that odd, Millennium-Falcon-looking anomaly that The Ocean X Team found a couple years back at the bottom of The Baltic Sea. I’ll understand if this post gets denied for being too far off-topic…

• psi2u2

It’s off topic in a nice way. I know nothing about that; I’m going to google now.

on edit: They need to stop using cgi images to promote this. It looks doubtful.

But it is interesting the Volvo is supporting them. Who knows, it could be a very interesting find even if it is not a fossilized UFO ;).

• Mark

Sorry, cgi is going to have to do. Even with their most powerful lights they can only see part of the actual structure because it is so dark down there. 🙁 All they have are drawings, animations, and those sonar images – both side-scan and multibeam sonar. Oh, well, it’s better than nothing, I guess.

I agree that it is an interesting find, and it does seem to be unique, one way or another. There are a lot of possibilities, at this point, but hopefully the money from Volvo will help them get some better answers about this. Now, if only there were more mainstream scientists willing to torpedo their reputations by taking this anomaly seriously…

• bachcole

I included only Swedish discoverers, not namers, or isolators:

Lithium — Johan August Arfwedson — 1817
Oxygen — Carl Wilhelm Scheele — 1772
Aluminum — Jöns Jacob Berzelius — 1883
Chlorine — Carl Wilhelm Scheele — 1774
Scandium — Lars Fredrik Nilson — 1879
Manganese — Torbern Olof Bergman — 1770
Cobalt — Georg Brandt — 1732
Nickel — Baron Axel Fredrik Cronstedt — 1751
Selenium — Jöns Jacob Berzelius and Johan Gottlieb Gahn — 1817
Molybdenum — Carl Wilhelm Scheele — 1778
Barium — Carl Wilhelm Scheele — 1772
Tantalum — Anders Gustaf Ekeberg — 1802
Tungsten — Torbern Olof Bergman — 1781
Lanthanum — Carl Gustaf Mosander — 1838
Cerium — Jons Jacob Berzelius & Wilhelm Hisinger — 1803
Terbium — Carl Gustaf Mosander — 1842
Erbium — Carl Gustaf Mosander — 1842
Thulium Per Teodor Cleve 1879
Thorium Jöns Jacob Berzelius 1829

19 elements out of about 117 from such a very small country. Also note that 3 elements
were named after the same Swedish village, named Ytterby: Terbium, Erbium, and Yttrium. Yttrium was discovered by Johan Gadolin, a Finn.

• NT

Apparently the functioning brains to population ratio in Sweden is much higher than…

• Andreas Moraitis

That’s why Carl-Oscar Gullström’s theory does not involve hydrogen – Cavendish and Lavoisier were not Swedes… 😉

• bachcole

I included only Swedish discoverers, not namers, or isolators:

Lithium — Johan August Arfwedson — 1817
Oxygen — Carl Wilhelm Scheele — 1772
Aluminum — Jöns Jacob Berzelius — 1883
Chlorine — Carl Wilhelm Scheele — 1774
Scandium — Lars Fredrik Nilson — 1879
Manganese — Torbern Olof Bergman — 1770
Cobalt — Georg Brandt — 1732
Nickel — Baron Axel Fredrik Cronstedt — 1751
Selenium — Jöns Jacob Berzelius and Johan Gottlieb Gahn — 1817
Molybdenum — Carl Wilhelm Scheele — 1778
Barium — Carl Wilhelm Scheele — 1772
Tantalum — Anders Gustaf Ekeberg — 1802
Tungsten — Torbern Olof Bergman — 1781
Lanthanum — Carl Gustaf Mosander — 1838
Cerium — Jons Jacob Berzelius & Wilhelm Hisinger — 1803
Terbium — Carl Gustaf Mosander — 1842
Erbium — Carl Gustaf Mosander — 1842
Thulium Per Teodor Cleve 1879
Thorium Jöns Jacob Berzelius 1829

19 elements out of about 117 from such a very small country. Also note that 3 elements
were named after the same Swedish village, named Ytterby: Terbium, Erbium, and Yttrium. Yttrium was discovered by Johan Gadolin, a Finn.

• NT

Apparently the functioning brains to population ratio in Sweden is much higher than…

• Andreas Moraitis

That’s why Carl-Oscar Gullström’s theory does not involve hydrogen – Cavendish and Lavoisier were not Swedes… 😉

• orsobubu

From a post by Silvio caggia, on 22passi blog:

Some phrases on the fly that struck me from the interview with Rossi (I do not guarantee the accuracy of every sentence, I made fast):

“not necessarily to be fusion […] but a change in the isotopic composition […] unlike fission […] we use materials that are not radioactive”

“The drive, at least for the moment, needs a form of external energy.”
“without the drive system can not work.”
“Out of 24 hours of operation the plant can go ssm for 3/4 of the time”

“I talked to the CEO of Volvo … […] there is enormous work to be done to transfer the technology in automotive […] at least 20 years, I do not think I will have the time to see it”

“The domestic system would actually be ready because the industrial plant is the assembly of modules […] there are enormous difficulties in this sense […] there are no statistics […] therefore companies certification in difficulty […] otherwise the product would be complete ”

“Industrial Heat sells heat”

“massive sales will begin after this year of verification”

“In Italy it’s all too influenced by political factors and political degeneration”

“In the US a person advances in career by merit”

“probably Tesla failed too due to poorly managed intellectual property”

• NT

“It sounds like very good news. Is it?” YES!