Rossi Reports Online Meeting with Parkhomov, Plans Visit to Russia in Future (1MW Plant Stable, Hot Cat Efficiency Improving)

Andrea Rossi reported on the Journal of Nuclear Physics today of an interesting communication he has had with Alexander G. Parkhomov. In a recent response to a question about Parkhomov’s work, Rossi posted that he thought AGP’s work was important, and that they had something in common: they are both hard workers.

Then today, he added this new comment in connection with the first.

Andrea Rossi
April 17th, 2015 at 8:41 AM
Quinton Heri:
I want to complete my answer with an update regarding Dr Parkhomov.
Yesterday I, for the first time, had a direct conference with him on Skype. He was in Italy for the ICCF with his niece Ecaterina ( nomen omen: Ecat-erina) who translated from Russian to English for him.
He explained to me the scheduled replication he is organizing with more reactors he is preparing and I have been positively impressed by his professionality and his intellectual honesty. He is humble, doesn’t speak too much, has all the signs of a strongly working person. Typical Russian. He honoured me inviting me in Russia, where I will go as soon as I will have completed the 1MW E-Cat test.
Warm Regards,
A.R.

It’s good to hear that the two men seem to get along well, and they plan to meet up in person to discuss work. I wonder if Rossi is giving him any tips!

PS: In another comment on the JONP, Rossi gave a brief status update on the 1 MW plant, and his Hot Cat research:

Update: She [the 1 MW plant] is working nicely, stable in these days. The work on the Hot Cat here is going on also, with a R&D that is substantially improving its efficiency.

  • Teemu Soilamo

    E-caterina – LOL

  • Teemu Soilamo

    E-caterina – LOL

  • Nicholas Cafarelli

    A very interesting development. Unexpected and promising. What next?

  • Nicholas Cafarelli

    A very interesting development. Unexpected and promising. What next?

  • Ged

    Good to see collaborations heating up. The field has really livened this year, it is incredible.

    • Omega Z

      Remember the mood in October.
      It is going to be a very long boring year ahead waiting on the pilot plant outcome.

      Well, We have 8 or 9 months to go, but, so far, it hasn’t been that boring.

  • Ged

    Good to see collaborations heating up. The field has really livened this year, it is incredible.

    • Omega Z

      Remember the mood in October.
      It is going to be a very long boring year ahead waiting on the pilot plant outcome.

      Well, We have 8 or 9 months to go, but, so far, it hasn’t been that boring.

  • Bob Matulis

    Dr Parkhomov sounds like a very decent fellow. Rossi’s insights into Dr Parkhomov actually reflect rather well on the character of Rossi: “He is humble, doesn’t speak too much, has all the signs of a strongly working person.” Perhaps he can hire Parkhomov some day 🙂

  • Bob Matulis

    Dr Parkhomov sounds like a very decent fellow. Rossi’s insights into Dr Parkhomov actually reflect rather well on the character of Rossi: “He is humble, doesn’t speak too much, has all the signs of a strongly working person.” Perhaps he can hire Parkhomov some day 🙂

  • Gerard McEk

    Quite unexpected to see these two nearing each other. I hope it will be a fruitful basis for further development. Also the improvement of the Hot Cat strikes me. I shows how much Rossi knows more about his Ecats than us who are just struggling to get it work.

    • Omega Z

      Reality Check
      Rossi has very much yet to learn.
      He is years ahead of us.

  • Gerard McEk

    Quite unexpected to see these two nearing each other. I hope it will be a fruitful basis for further development. Also the improvement of the Hot Cat strikes me. I shows how much Rossi knows more about his Ecats than us who are just struggling to get it work.

    • Omega Z

      Reality Check
      Rossi has very much yet to learn.
      He is years ahead of us.

  • Matt Sevrens

    Didn’t Rossi discredit Parkhomov at first?

    • ecatworld

      I don’t think he ever discredited AGP. Was impressed from the first.

  • Matt Sevrens

    Didn’t Rossi discredit Parkhomov at first?

    • Frank Acland

      I don’t think he ever discredited AGP. Was impressed from the first.

  • Fyodor

    Maybe Parkhamov can shake some more information out of him about how the reactor works/can be run.

    • Omega Z

      It will be after the pilot plant test is done.
      I just think Rossi is getting close enough to market that it is much less a concern.

      Note: Everyone will have to run pilot tests & jump thru all the safety hoops that Rossi is now.

    • Actually there are some things that Rossi wants to tell AGP about isotopes of Nickel.

      • Obvious

        Maybe Rossi wanted to know more about Parkhomov’s isotope changes that Rossi mentioned in his and Cook’s paper, but we’re actually Rossi’s isotope analyses that Parkhomov was discussing…

  • Sanjeev

    Pleasant surprise. Nice to know that Rossi is so open towards AP. It seems he is no longer worried about the tech being reproduced by others, rather sees it as “important work”. It seems its clear to him that independent tests and replications will only boost his credibility and help in commercializing.

    • Bernie Koppenhofer

      Rossi respects and trusts him, unlike the California VC people Rossi ran away from as fast as possible.

  • Sanjeev

    Pleasant surprise. Nice to know that Rossi is so open towards AP. It seems he is no longer worried about the tech being reproduced by others, rather sees it as “important work”. It seems its clear to him that independent tests and replications will only boost his credibility and help in commercializing.

    • Bernie Koppenhofer

      Rossi respects and trusts him, unlike the California VC people Rossi ran away from as fast as possible.

  • bachcole

    Wonderful, wonderful, wonderful!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • builditnow

    To offer Parkhamov a job or a contract? Bring him into the Industrial Heat fold?
    Industrial Heat’s recent behavior could be to consolidate their position as a major player in the new LENR / Cold Fusion energy space. It could be that Industrial Heat is on a buying and hiring spree. There is one unconfirmed report they have invested in Brillouin. If they can bring Pakrhamov into Industrial Heat, it brings a talented person onboard and slows down further leakage of the Hot Cat design to the “LENR Community”. If you successfully replicate the Hot Cat, you may get a good job offer.

  • builditnow

    To offer Parkhamov a job or a contract? Bring him into the Industrial Heat fold?
    Industrial Heat’s recent behavior could be to consolidate their position as a major player in the new LENR / Cold Fusion energy space. It could be that Industrial Heat is on a buying and hiring spree. There is one unconfirmed report they have invested in Brillouin. If they can bring Pakrhamov into Industrial Heat, it brings a talented person onboard and slows down further leakage of the Hot Cat design to the “LENR Community”. If you successfully replicate the Hot Cat, you may get a good job offer.

    • bachcole

      I share your idea that Darden is probably on a hiring outing. But I do not share your attitude that he or Industrial Heat is predatory, or at least that is what I get from your comment. Quite the contrary, I see him as wanting LENR+ to work as his primary goal, and he doesn’t care much about getting rich off of it. He said that he is the major investor in I.H., and he seems rich enough and wise enough to know that he doesn’t need any more money.

      • builditnow

        Bachcole: I’m thinking it is more defensive that predatory for. More about being as certain as possible that “this time” it’s a successful announcement and launch. Darden and Rossi seem to have their heart in the right place, and … they need to be strong, bullet proof, in the face of the eventual onslaught from all directions when they introduce LENR to the world. Better to have a very solid basis for a launch, products ready to manufacture on scale, already approved if possible, hundreds of demo products to show large numbers of people, at once, all over the world. 100 years-of-use in a manufacturing plant shown by the 1mW unit(s).

        It also gives time for the big players to position themselves so they won’t resist LENR and perhaps will come on board. For instance, Slumberger (SLB) is the biggest oil drilling supply company. Take a look at the stock sales of the insiders for the last 2 years and you will see that the insiders have sold off about $100million of stock and now own very little. (Retirement / mutual funds remain invested so the little guy is at risk). The Saudis are looking beyond oil to things like aluminum manufacture and technology. Aluminum has the potential to replace steel if it can be smelted much cheaper so it could be big.

        If Industrial Heat gets to control the launch of LENR, they will do it when they are ready. They also need to be ready just in case the launch happens outside of their control.
        What I observe is they are not pushing for a launch now, rather, they are playing LENR down for the meantime.

  • Roland

    Is it just me or does the prospect of having Rossi meet Parkhamov in what appears to be an increasingly aggressive semi-totalitarian state with a lot at stake, the entire economy revolves around oil, seem to entail a degree of personal and commercial risk that could be circumvented by meeting in more civilized surroundings?

    • builditnow

      Roland: There is much more support for LENR in Russia than in the USA. Parkhamov is publicly giving talks and collaborating at his university. Putin has said that oil could go to $10 / barrel. How could Putin say that unless he knows that LENR is coming. Also, LENR could be a huge boon for Russia, it could open up all their cold areas to development. All sort of mining etc. etc. Like the Saudis, it looks like the Russians consider that arrival of LENR is just a matter of time. Interfering with Rossi visiting Parkhamov could make for world press and an early launch LENR, only speeding it’s introduction.

      It also looks like the Russians could be interested in being leaders in the LENR energy field, but, also, to keep the oil income going as long as possible, in the meantime.

  • Roland

    Is it just me or does the prospect of having Rossi meet Parkhamov in what appears to be an increasingly aggressive semi-totalitarian state with a lot at stake, the entire economy revolves around oil, seem to entail a degree of personal and commercial risk that could be circumvented by meeting in more civilized surroundings?

    • David

      He said he would go and see him in Russia.

    • bachcole

      I agree.

    • builditnow

      Roland: There is much more support for LENR in Russia than in the USA. Parkhamov is publicly giving talks and collaborating at his university. Putin has said that oil could go to $10 / barrel. How could Putin say that unless he knows that LENR is coming. Also, LENR could be a huge boon for Russia, it could open up all their cold areas to development. All sort of mining etc. etc. Like the Saudis, it looks like the Russians consider that arrival of LENR is just a matter of time. Interfering with Rossi visiting Parkhamov could make for world press and an early launch LENR, only speeding it’s introduction.

      It also looks like the Russians could be interested in being leaders in the LENR energy field, but, also, to keep the oil income going as long as possible, in the meantime.

      • bachcole

        I still am skeptical that these big powerful people have a clue about LENR, not because I have some kind of theological agenda, but because I just think that we are too cult-centered. Although LENR is real and a genuine tsunami to the economic and intellectual world, us peanut gallery people are a cult. I mean that in the very nicest possible way. I don’t think that we are an echo chamber or that we are lying to ourselves. We aren’t that much of a cult. But I think that some of us think that the whole world is watching us or LENR. They aren’t. Right now, for the most part, we are nobody. The time is rapidly approaching when LENR will be ginormous and we LENR veterans may even get a few radio spots and guess article authorships. But for now, we don’t yet exist outside of the halls of LENRdom.

        • you arte mostly rght, but I KNOW there are serious people who follow the news of LENR, where data are…
          on our social network of LENR cult.

          we are like the cult of internet in 1993…
          some corpsl like telcos will not care, but some others are anxious to adapt to the new world…
          I say anxious, because it is disruptive and can break their business…
          fear drive the rich world.
          ambiton drive the new world.

          at ICCF19 I have seen ambitious Russian, ambitious Asian, and many ambitious individuals from all the planet.

          The reason why , at last, I think LEN-Cities have the good plan, is that I have understood that in the rich world, we adre driven by fear, and their model is thar to insure rich companies from the fear of being alone doing the revolution.

          note that people I’ve met who follow us, don’t contribute in comments.
          their contribution is when lauching a startup, attending ICCF, launching a technology assessment project… they are the silent majority here.

          • bachcole

            Although I agree with your general outline of rich vs. new, I think that it is too simplistic or too much stereotyping. Rockefeller was very well established as the world’s richest man when the light bulb came about and the automobile came on strong. At first he did make feeble attempts to stop the light bulb, since his business at that time was kerosene, mostly for lamps. Then he just switched to making gasoline for cars; he was already using gasoline to power his refineries. He didn’t miss a dollar in switching, but he did demonstrate some of that “rich” fear.

            BTW, when the government stepped in to break up his monopoly, he fought it tooth and nail (fear), but after the break-up, he was making even more money (but less control) than before, because although he did not have control of all of the baby-Standard Oils, he still had shares. And with all of the baby-Standard Oils competing, he got to about $660 billion in today’s dollars. He is actually living proof that breaking monopolies is good for everyone, even him.

          • very interesting history.

            ” He is actually living proof that breaking monopolies is good for everyone, even him.”

            Similarly in the 70s, the increase in anti-pollution regulation increased the performance of chemical industry because it triggered update of their technology and pushed more efficient process.

      • stefan

        >”LENR could be a huge boon for Russia”

        Apparently, LENR is a death sentence for Russian economy, particularly the heat generation would be the first area where LENR may have a practical application; it’s exactly the area where Russia’s natural-gas dollars come from… It’s logical to expect them to investigate LENR and it seems they do not show a particular concern; at the same time it looks that LENR effects do exist so, it’s likely that the LENR tech as a viable source of energy is still a far away prospect (probably closer then hot fusion though)….

  • clovis ray

    Yep, A.R knew and liked AGP, from the start, and he does seem like he has the right stuff, and he does act very independent , and don’t like following, rules or people much, he just likes to be left alone to do his work,

  • builditnow

    Bachcole: I’m thinking it is more defensive that predatory for. More about being as certain as possible that “this time” it’s a successful announcement and launch. Darden and Rossi seem to have their heart in the right place, and … they need to be strong, bullet proof, in the face of the eventual onslaught from all directions when they introduce LENR to the world. Better to have a very solid basis for a launch, products ready to manufacture on scale, already approved if possible, hundreds of demo products to show large numbers of people, at once, all over the world. 100 years-of-use in a manufacturing plant shown by the 1mW unit(s).

    It also gives time for the big players to position themselves so they won’t resist LENR and perhaps will come on board. For instance, Slumberger (SLB) is the biggest oil drilling supply company. Take a look at the stock sales of the insiders for the last 2 years and you will see that the insiders have sold off about $100million of stock and now own very little. (Retirement / mutual funds remain invested so the little guy is at risk). The Saudis are looking beyond oil to things like aluminum manufacture and technology. Aluminum has the potential to replace steel if it can be smelted much cheaper so it could be big.

    If Industrial Heat gets to control the launch of LENR, they will do it when they are ready. They also need to be ready just in case the launch happens outside of their control.
    What I observe is they are not pushing for a launch now, rather, they are playing LENR down for the meantime.

  • James Andrew Rovnak

    Yes two tenacious researchers I admire both! Am happy to see the cooperation, wish we could do as well on the Ukraine!

  • James Andrew Rovnak

    Yes two tenacious researchers I admire both! Am happy to see the cooperation, wish we could do as well on the Ukraine!

  • Alan DeAngelis

    I hope they can spend some of their time together thinking about the best way to interface the reactor with an alpha voltaic cell that could convert the energy of the alpha particles from

    Li(7) + p > 2(He) 17.3 MeV
    directly into an electrical current.
    http://www.e-catworld.com/2015/04/08/rossi-helium-found-in-e-cat-reaction/#comment-1954104125

  • Alan DeAngelis

    I hope they can spend some of their time together thinking about the best way to interface the reactor with an alpha voltaic cell that could convert the energy of the alpha particles from

    Li(7) + p > 2(He) 17.3 MeV
    directly into an electrical current.
    http://www.e-catworld.com/2015/04/08/rossi-helium-found-in-e-cat-reaction/#comment-1954104125

  • Andy Kumar

    Rossi is being humble. He won’t need to go anywhere after he has completed the 1MW test. The whole world will be knocking at his door. He will be busy with the next logical step, 1GW test.

  • Omega Z

    It will be after the pilot plant test is done.
    I just think Rossi is getting close enough to market that it is much less a concern.

    Note: Everyone will have to run pilot tests & jump thru all the safety hoops that Rossi is now.

  • Ophelia Rump

    It is very encouraging to see so many researchers beginning to reach out to one another.
    Something vital has changed for the better.
    The tide must be rising for LENR, all the boats are lifting.

  • Ophelia Rump

    It is very encouraging to see so many researchers beginning to reach out to one another.
    Something vital has changed for the better.
    The tide must be rising for LENR, all the boats are lifting.

  • you arte mostly rght, but I KNOW there are serious people who follow the news of LENR, where data are…
    on our social network of LENR cult.

    we are like the cult of internet in 1993…
    some corpsl like telcos will not care, but some others are anxious to adapt to the new world…
    I say anxious, because it is disruptive and can break their business…
    fear drive the rich world.
    ambiton drive the new world.

    at ICCF19 I have seen ambitious Russian, ambitious Asian, and many ambitious individuals from all the planet.

    The reason why , at last, I think LEN-Cities have the good plan, is that I have understood that in the rich world, we adre driven by fear, and their model is thar to insure rich companies from the fear of being alone doing the revolution.

    note that people I’ve met who follow us, don’t contribute in comments.
    their contribution is when lauching a startup, attending ICCF, launching a technology assessment project… they are the silent majority here.

    • bachcole

      Although I agree with your general outline of rich vs. new, I think that it is too simplistic or too much stereotyping. Rockefeller was very well established as the world’s richest man when the light bulb came about and the automobile came on strong. At first he did make feeble attempts to stop the light bulb, since his business at that time was kerosene, mostly for lamps. Then he just switched to making gasoline for cars; he was already using gasoline to power his refineries. He didn’t miss a dollar in switching, but he did demonstrate some of that “rich” fear.

      BTW, when the government stepped in to break up his monopoly, he fought it tooth and nail (fear), but after the break-up, he was making even more money (but less control) than before, because although he did not have control of all of the baby-Standard Oils, he still had shares. And with all of the baby-Standard Oils competing, he got to about $660 billion in today’s dollars. He is actually living proof that breaking monopolies is good for everyone, even him.

      • very interesting history.

        ” He is actually living proof that breaking monopolies is good for everyone, even him.”

        Similarly in the 70s, the increase in anti-pollution regulation increased the performance of chemical industry because it triggered update of their technology and pushed more efficient process.

  • AlbertNN

    Has there been any comment from Parkhomov on the strange artefacts in his recorded data traces?

  • Bob Greenyer

    I can validate that there was a Skype call between them, Alexander had told me the same before Rossi made it public.

  • Bob Greenyer

    I can validate that there was a Skype call between them, Alexander had told me the same before Rossi made it public.

  • Sanjeev
    • Omega Z

      This does not surprise me. I’ve strongly suspected that the Lugano team was building a replica of sorts.

  • Sanjeev
    • Omega Z

      This does not surprise me. I’ve strongly suspected that the Lugano team was building a replica of sorts.

      • bachcole

        Looking back, I am a little surprised that they haven’t been working one it since the 2013 report came out. But at the time, until now, I just didn’t think about it.

  • Charles

    One of my last chores, 1989-1991, with the company I worked for was helping Dauphin, a commercial spin-off from the Russian Space Inertial guidance program establish global marketing.

    In charge of Dauphin. was a gentleman named Bogomolov. I, myself, was a rather capable electronics engineer specializing in production of Inertial Guidance Systems, the last being that used by the US nuclear subs and the NATO navies. I believe Bogomolov was, without question, the smartest man I ever ran into.

    The Russians I dealt with were exceptional brilliant people. Parkhomov is undoutedly in the same category.

  • Charles

    One of my last chores, 1989-1991, with the company I worked for was helping Dauphin, a commercial spin-off from the Russian Space Inertial guidance program establish global marketing.

    In charge of Dauphin. was a gentleman named Bogomolov. I, myself, was a rather capable electronics engineer specializing in production of Inertial Guidance Systems, the last being that used by the US nuclear subs and the NATO navies. I believe Bogomolov was, without question, the smartest man I ever ran into.

    The Russians I dealt with were exceptional brilliant people. Parkhomov is undoutedly in the same category.

    • bachcole

      I also dealt with two Russians, brother and sister, during my working years. They were extraordinarily sweet. So, they are both highly intelligent and very sweet. So, how come they have had really bad governments down thru the centuries?

  • Obvious

    Maybe Rossi wanted to know more about Parkhomov’s isotope changes that Rossi mentioned in his and Cook’s paper, but we’re actually Rossi’s isotope analyses that Parkhomov was discussing…

  • psi2u2

    This is great. It is wonderful to see the generosity of spirit that I believe has always motivated Dr. Rossi, in welcoming the ‘competition’ of another hard working and dedicated scientist to the adventure. Also I note that he seems to be getting some first-rate assistance with his English composition. Well done all around.

  • psi2u2

    This is great. It is wonderful to see the generosity of spirit that I believe has always motivated Dr. Rossi, in welcoming the ‘competition’ of another hard working and dedicated scientist to the adventure. Also I note that he seems to be getting some first-rate assistance with his English composition. Well done all around.

    • bachcole

      Don’t mistake Andrea’s announced charity as patience and gentleness. Although I appreciate him greatly and I believe him and trust him when it comes to his intention to help others, he is a head-case, and he will yell at you in anger if you f*$k-up.