POWER-GEN Europe’s Advisor Eyes Cold Fusion as Possibility for Decarbonization

Thanks to Gerrit for this interesting comment:

Europe’s energy transition has placed the nuclear sector at a crossroads, and members of POWER-GEN Europe’s Advisory Board consider the role of nuclear in Europe’s drive towards energy decarbonisation, ahead of the conference and exhibition which will take place in Amsterdam, 9-11 June, 2015

David Porter, Senior Advisor to the Global Energy team, Navigant:

“Nuclear power, while having massive potential, has never been able to distance itself from the perception that it is a ‘political’ technology.

“But, construction costs and timescales mean that it cannot be financed without a level of stability in policy that the EU and member states find hard to deliver. It remains, however, a technology that offers more than most to meet the challenge of the energy policy ‘trilemma’.

“Nuclear power will remain on the agenda and if we get a break-through in cold fusion, it will be even more important.”


I am not sure, but I read that last line as a factual statement and not as a sarcastic joke.


  • Gerard McEk

    It is a brave remark of David Porter. I at least shows that people at that level are aware of what is going on with Cold fusion and even that a break-through is expected. On second thought: perhaps the remark was not so brave because he can always deny it and say this is was just a joke…

    • hempenearth

      Yes, plausible deniability. At least he mentioned it.

    • LookMoo

      hear hear..

  • Ophelia Rump

    It would require some major breakthrough, like someone developing a simple inexpensive cold fusion reactor and running a manufacturing plant for a year with it to prove it works.

    What are the odds of that ever happening?

    • Mats002

      Null 🙂

  • Omega Z


    I could just be sarcasm.
    We tend to look at things in the Rossi realm. There is much more going on then just Rossi. You have the alphabet agencies in the U.S. and elsewhere & major entities like Mitsubishi/Toyota looking to remediate nuclear waste.
    These people are actually in the know, so All considered, It may not be sarcasm, but real interest & hope.

    • Bob Matulis

      My sarcasm meter did not go off. I take it as a good sign that people in the know are starting to hedge bets.

      • Ophelia Rump

        Not a hint or a whiff detected, and hedgy enough not to draw fire. When coming from on high this is a bat signal urging caution in wording and a presage of potential change.

  • bachcole

    I presume that David Porter is an English speaker, and as a fellow English speaker of about 66 years, and a practising sarcast of about 46 years, I read no sarcasm whatsoever in what he said.

  • Julian Becker

    This is not LENR related but news have just been out that the experiments of Dr. White at NASA´s Eagleworks Laboratory has potentially accidently created their first warp bubble. It was completely unexpected and found in another experiement they are currently investigating called the Emdrive (I guess the E-Cat could be a viable energy source for it in the future). It looks like that if a laser was shot through the EM-Drive it traveled faster than light. This can only be possible if space is compressed, hence by the creation of a warp bubble.

    Here the article and the discussion on a NASA forum by the scientists involved…



    Athough this all seems quite far fetched, one day the electrical source for a space probe build on this concept could be the Ecat so there is a relation to our topic here…

    • artefact

      The laser measurement could be used to find out quicker if a design for the emdrive is better or not.

  • Ophelia Rump

    The new buzz word, recycling enthusiasm.

    • Buck


      I think you are correct . . . but, what if you had sent the following recommendation, first on 4/21 and an update on 4/23, for inclusion in the White House Demo Day?


      ++++++ SUBMISSION +++++++

      Contact: Andrea Rossi, Tom Darden, JT Vaughn

      Company Name:
      Industrial Heat LLC / Cherokee Investment Partners

      Website: http://www.cherokeefund.com/bio/tdarden.htm

      Email: [email protected]

      Address: 111 East Hargett Street, Suite 300; 27601


      This is to amend my recommendation dated 4/21.

      Andrea Rossi, Chief Scientist of Industrial Heat, publicly described some core details of how a third party referee is verifying and validating the performance of the 1MW E-Cat Pilot Plant test described below. This suggests that the performance figures described below have a stronger technical basis. This should make your due diligence easier.

      I have included two new web links below. The first is Rossi’s actual public statement. The second is from a website that follows in detail the progress of LENR and the E-Cat; look for “Update #23” on the thread.




      LENR is a new energy technology that has reached the pre-commercial stage of a live Pilot Plant test at a secret industrial production facility. The 1MegaWatt E-Cat is installed to provide the necessary heat for the customer’s existing production process. The 1MW E-Cat is currently about 50% through a one year trial. Informal reports of those who have seen the installation in action are reporting that it is providing sufficient heat to replace/displace +95% of the energy historically purchased from the local utility company. Rossi has indicated that the plant manager is very impressed.

      Andrea Rossi has been working at developing a functional LENR device for many years. He calls it E-Cat. Industrial Heat LLC, a venture of Tom Darden and managed by JT Vaughn, licensed the rights to Rossi’s E-Cat.

      At this point, Industrial Heat is being secretive due of the nature of the LENR product. I have included below a set of web-links that provide an excellent starting point. If my assumption is correct, your review should lead you to the conclusion that LENR will have a material positive impact upon at least the Energy, Climate, Economic, and National Security policies of President Obama. It is my belief that if you include the E-Cat in the White House Demo Day, you will provide an advantage and opportunity to President

      To validate my assertions, I suggest you contact Tom Darden. JT Vaughn is the manager of Industrial Heat, but I believe that Tom Darden holds the final say. Also, he is the Legal and Administrative side of the business and has the open demeanor and authority to consider your due diligence efforts. Considering the information coming out of the private tours, I think he would be able to coordinate a review as well as a tour to address your
      concerns. I have included a transcript of a speech he gave at the recent ICCF19
      symposium. It gives you a clear idea of who he is and his goals for the E-Cat.


      UPDATE #1: http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/?p=96&cpage=2#comment-1068747

      UPDATE #2: http://www.e-catworld.com/2015/04/22/1-mw-e-cat-plant-watch-thread-update-1-rossi-production-cost-in-kw-is-very-competitive/


      PR Newswire: http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/industrial-heat-has-acquired-andrea-rossis-e-cat-technology-241853361.html

      Forbes: http://www.forbes.com/sites/markgibbs/2013/05/20/finally-independent-testing-of-rossis-e-cat-cold-fusion-device-maybe-the-world-will-change-after-all/

      Wired: http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2015-01/30/cold-fusion-energy-advances-2015

      Overview: http://www.lenrproof.com/

      E-Cat First Independent Third Party Report: http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1305/1305.3913.pdf

      E-Cat Second Independent Third Party Report: http://www.elforsk.se/Global/Omv%C3%A4rld_system/filer/LuganoReportSubmit.pdf

      60 Minutes: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/cold-fusion-is-hot-again/

      Darden’s Speech: http://www.e-catworld.com/2015/04/14/tom-dardens-speech-on-lenr-at-iccf19/

      • Andy Kumar

        Buck, you are forgetting that the secret military customer has been boiling water on a remote base for 4 years. White House KNOWS how earth shattering the discovery is. I wonder why the military did not buy more of the boilers.

        • Buck

          Andy . . . no, I haven’t forgotten. I have presented a plausible opportunity for bringing LENR into the public forum by a President who recognize the impact of climate change upon the future.

          I also believe the President recognizes the potential impact this would have on the 2016 election. How would the public respond to the knowledge that the Koch’s are spending $1B on the election and their wealth and political agenda is tied to preserving the value of Oil.

          Also, given the dramatic news trickling out from the tours of the customer pilot plant site, people apparently can’t keep their cool.

          If this were a drug trial for given type of cancer therapy and the experimental drug rendered +95% of the subjects cancer free half-way through the experimental protocol, then the supervising physicians would likely get FDA approval to break protocol to save the lives of those receiving the placebo.

          In this situation, it is up to Darden to determine if the benefits of having a President stand in support of LENR outweigh the risks of only about six months of data.

          And so, it seems like a good idea to provide an opportunity.

          • GreenWin

            Disclosure remains sensitive to stabilizing markets. It may be the bulk fossil/fission assets have been given sufficient warning and time (4+ years since Bologna 2011) to prevent major chaos. Big paradigm changes take time – buggy/auto, oil-gas lamps/electric lights. However, with positive results piling in, fast tracking commercial LENR e.g. desal, water purification, fits humanitarian needs.

          • Buck


            I am challenged to guess the “If and When” of the potential involvement of President Obama.

            As odd as it sounds, I am placing Politics at the top of the list which might prompt Obama to become involved. I think it reasonable to guess that Obama believes that if LENR is rolled out in during a Republican presidency, backed by a Republican led House and Senate, then events would not go as well as they might. Further, LENR could be a polarizing influence that benefits Democrats . . .

            At the least, I take note of President Obama’s “Bucket List” from last night’s WHCD. It suggests that he recognizes that his window of opportunity is shrinking.
            Link>> http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/240103-live-coverage-of-obamas-whcd-speech

            “Obama mocked critics of his recent unilateral moves, saying he maintains ‘something that rhymes with ‘bucket list.’ ”
            ” ‘Executive action on immigration? Bucket,’ Obama said to laughs. ‘New climate regulations? Bucket. It’s the right thing to do.’ “

        • Omega Z

          That military customer would likely be the NRL. One of several government concerns that track technological developments. It’s their job to do so. To keep the Government & Military from being blindsided by a new technology.

          Rossi’s E-cat is just 1 of possibly 100’s of technologies they are closely watching. I’m aware of a couple and they also are not in the MSM outlets. Just quietly moving forward in silence. They place technology advances in categories of importance. Those to watch. Those that have reached a point to push forward & clear the path of obstacles And, a 3rd category, Those that are of such possibilities that We will likely never hear about again for many decades.

          The USPTO & the 3rd Category.
          The Patent office wont grant Rossi’s IP because it falls under perpetual motion & Unicorns. However, they did take it serious enough to send it for special review. That 3rd category. Obviously, it didn’t fall into that category or this wouldn’t even be known. The patent wouldn’t be available for public viewing & the info about this special review wouldn’t publicly exist.

          As to why the (NRL?) didn’t purchase more 1Mw plants. Between the Demo & delivery of the 1Mw plant, Rossi had made a major break. The Hot-cat came into existence. Why would they purchase more of the low temp plants.

          As to the “White House KNOWS”, Those who have been in politics long enough & risen high enough, they tend to be out of touch with the world. Probably when someone mentions cold fusion/LENR, they think Hot Fusion/ITER & they know that’s always 20/30 years away. Note they still practice 1850’s economics policy.