The Basics of Cold Fusion — Response to Axil Axil (Andrea Calaon)

The following comment was posted by Andrea Calaon in this thread.

Dear Axil Axil,
You are funny! I like your (quite correct) pushing towards inevitable consequences of the assumptions . . .teleportation . . . magic appearance of protons behind an impregnable metallic wall of atoms . . . If we think about the transmutation of heavy nuclei like Cs, protected as they are by a series of electron shells, … things get possibly even worse . . .

But reality is actually much simpler and less phantasmagoric. If you believe me only for the length of this text, I will tell you what Cold Fusion is and what actually happened inside the Hot Cat!< /p>
The main obstacle for understanding what cold fusion is, has been the fact that so far this civilization has not understood the nature of the nuclear force …

Let us start from the beginning.

Cold Fusion is essentially due to the formation of a neutral pseudo-particle in what is called the Nuclear Active Environment. This particle is made of an hydroge n nucleus and an electron kept together by the same mechanism that keeps together nucleons inside nuclei. In fact the nuclear force is actually electromagnetic (as unbelievable and absurd as it may sound) and can manifest also between electrons and protons. Fortunately one of the necessary conditions for the formation of the neutral particles (I will collectively call them Hyd), is almost never occurring: the electron has to rotate around a naked hydrogen nucleus with its spin aligned and at a VERY low frequency: less than 2 kHz (1836 Hz)! In less “hidden variables terms”, the angular momentum must have a component at very low frequencies . . . No Born-Oppenheimer . . . the guaranteed coherence time of the oscillation must be very long (about 1/2000 of a second) . . .

In a Hyd the proton is bound along the Zitterbewegung trajectory of the electron. Actually it is the electron that moves more because it is much lighter, but anyway …

Rossi stimulates the NAE by switches applied to a normal AC current from the net, obtaining frequencies components that are not higher than a few [kHz]. The same seems to be doing A. Parkhomov.

The Hyds can travel quite freely in matter and are what deeply penetrates the micrometer sized grains. They can grab other nuclei by the same nuclear force mechanism, and have these nuclei react “inside the electron” where quite special nuclear reactions take place. The necessary condition for the attraction with the Hyd is that the nucleus must have a magnetic moment, not necessarily of first order. For example Ni62 does not have magnetic moments and its cross section with the Hyd is therefore zero. Ni61 instead has a magnetic moment and therefore a high “cross section”. In fact Ni61 disappears quickly from the powder (there is no trace of it in the ash …).
The binding energies of the Hyd are: 1.745 [MeV] in the case of p-e and 1.445 [MeV] in the case of d-e. Iwamura measured the photons directly.

The first of the two binding energies prevents the formation of deuterium in the Hot Cat through the reaction:
p+ep(Hyd) > d + neutrino + (max) 1.442[MeV] ­- 1.745[MeV].

This reaction is endothermic and needs 303 [keV] to proceed.

Without deuterium all other reactions of Hyd with protons can not take place. As a consequence during the Lugano test there was almost no production of He4, tritium and He3. However as the reacting nuclei deplete all around the NAEs (during the 32 days of continuous electromagnetic stimulation) the Hyd start to see and react more with other hydrogen nuclei and other Hyd that did not react. When the gamma coming from the formation of a Hyd strikes another Hyd that has captured a second proton, it causes the reaction above to generate deuterium. The efficiency of the reactor then starts to grow, as it was already happening in the last 4 days of the test, because deuterium is the door to the reactions which produce He4, and which are the most energetic of all possible.

Rossi stopped the experiment cautiously before the agreed 35 days because when deuterium appears, apart from the growth in volumetric power density, some tritium (and He4) is actually produced. The decay of tritium is easily detectable and … In practice tritium does not accumulate (there is a precise reason for this), but Andrea wanted anyway to show a “perfectly” clean device, with no tritium and no beta decay. The energy emitted during the 32 days came from the formation of Hyd (ep) and the isotopic shifts of Li and Ni.

In most other Cold Fusion devices instead the majority of the power comes from the generation of Hyd and of He4.
With the help of the electron Cold Fusion can generate tritium without neutrons. This is what explains the so called branching ratio problem.

The main function of Li is its capability to increase the density of NAE and not a special nuclear property.
You correctly noticed that the final ash grains are homogeneous. However in the first part of the Lugano test the grains were actually isotopically layered, as you suggest. As I already mentioned the COP did grow during the last 4 days of the test because the grains were approaching complete isotopic depletion, and the la yering disappeared.
You mentioned neutrons. All Cold Fusion reactions leading to free neutrons are endothermic, apart from this one, which actually requires tritium and deuterium to be present:
t+ed -> He5 + e + 14.387[MeV]
He5 -> He4 + n + 0.735[MeV]

Neutrons can appear only in presence of tritium plus gamma (normally coming from the formation of the Hyd), or when tritium is abundant in presence of ed.

You say: “These protons change themselves into neutron after they enter the Ni58 nucleus”. Actually you are right. It is however the electron that changes the protons to a neutron. But this change does not take place with a proton and an electron generating a free neutron. It happens instead only when the actual “nuclear” reaction between Ni, proton and electron takes place (in this case it is a ternuclear reaction). For example:
Ni60+ep->Ni61 + neutrino + 5.3 [MeV]

The preference for stable nuclei comes from the fact that “inside the electron” the nuclei meet at almost no excess kinetic energy and only stable and less massive nuclei can be assembled. In a way the electron is like a workshop where nuclei are disassembled and assembled at no kinetic energy excess.

Fractionation comes from the acceleration of the electron in the formation o f the Hyd and form the acceleration of the Hyds when coupling to other nuclei. Moreover the final approach between nuclei “inside the electron” before fusion causes the emission of photons as well. This happens because the nuclear force mechanism between oppositely charged particles (e and p/d/t) is much more long range than its version between equally charged protons, and no Coulomb barrier must be overcome. In Cold Fusion the coulomb barrier between nuclei is NEVER overcome kinetically, but only through the nuclear force mechanism. In other words the electron, in very special conditions, can act as a range extender of the nuclear force.

So teleportation is NOT supported by the experimental evidence in the Lugano Report because there are neutral particles flying aroun d. And they are not neutrons.

Now you know the basics of Cold Fusion! I hope you liked the journey.

Andrea Calaon

  • f sedei

    Adrea Calaon: A very learned and cogent analysis. Do you believe Rossi should use this as an accurate description to obtain his patent?

    • Andrea Calaon

      Dear Mr. Sedei,
      Thank you for your appreciation of my comment. The world of patents is governed by “equations” that I do not know. What I described is not recognized by any official entity, so I think it would be of no use in a patent request.
      A fact is that no one would like to admit that Cold Fusion, if stimulated, can generate neutrons and tritium. So I guess for Andrea it would be better to skip the theory for now. Airbus has already admitted there can be gamma emissions.

      • Eyedoc

        Does this mean that A Rossi may be in some danger from his prolonged exposure to the Ecats ?

        • Andrea Calaon

          Andrea said that he and his team are taking constant care of this issue and that there is no risk.
          The guess is that the mean free path of Hyd is of the order of a few micrometers in “common” solids. Clearly a sheet of pure Ni62 would be transparent as probably other isotopes that do not have magnetic moments. Probably the shielding effect will decrease with time as the possible transmutations progress. This is definitely something that will need to be addressed.

      • GreenWin

        At some point our Big Brothers will have to confront the tritium issue. This is one reason why the sim has gone dark on public disclosure of CF. There are however ways to monitor this substance and to engineer its production OUT of any commercial CF reactor.

        Thanks Andrea for your very stimulating theory.

    • Josh G

      I believe the consensus now is that the Lugano report is flawed and the net output is even less than what is stated (though still positive). But in either case the Lugano test was not aiming for maximum efficiency that could be achieved, for example, with self-sustain modes.

    • Axil Axil

      The theorist who is defending his position has failed to explain how this proposed paticle can penitrate a thich layer of glass to produce a uranium based fusion reaction in a seperated, completely enclosed, and isolated water filled chamber. Is ignoring a good faith attemp at peer review the true path to truth?

      • Dave Lawton

        I know. Its the same way ball lightning appears to pass through solid glass. It disassembles itself and then reassembles itself the other-side of the glass wall.

        • Axil Axil

          Yes, ball lightning is SPP vortex operating on the macro scale. The vortex of electrons becomes free roaming and mobile. Upon encountering an obstruction, the vortex using electomagnetic plasma based interaction through the obstruction produces a copy of itself on the other side of the glass.

          • Omega Z

            That’s all well & fine as long as it stays put & doesn’t head my way.

      • Andrea Calaon

        Hi Axil,
        Please give me time for answering this avalanche of posts. I will answer you. But I also have a life with work, kids, music.

  • LilyLover

    Well, Axil Axil, hate to opportunistically gang-up on you, but, yes, like Andrea says, Lugano results do not even remotely implicate Teleportation. I’d be happy if teleportation were a possibility. With all that I understand, I have to opine against teleportation. As resistance to mass increases with speed the terminal fragmentation of mass into energy at the speed of light is the un-understood basis of the Newtonian-Einsteinian-modified present day Physics. Faster than light travel does not require reconstitution of matter. If you are rowing a boat downstream, faster than the stream, you are similarly being faster than light UFO in outer space. The unspoken thought goes: once you achieve that speed, the resistance of the light moving in the same direction as you are, is akin to rear ending a car and therefore at that speed matter ought to have already converted into electromagnetic waves. Granted, the stream causes resistance to forward motion even if you are trying to push the stream in the same direction, but at the same time, say if you were magically floating in the air and rowing, the lack of resistance is the reason that you cannot push enough mass of air backwards, so as to achieve forward motion. But, in the vacuum of outer space accelerating acceleration need not necessitate infinite energy or matter converted into energy. The universe as we observe it, is observed through energeticness-perspective. In the bulk of it – it’s empty. I.e. There are no “wormholes” popularly envisioned as “fast speed travel lanes” rather, all the travel is through the mesh of spider webs in multiple series. It’s not a matter of finding empty space – it’s a matter of not scraping any single strand. That limits our speed. So, the energetic universe which is rather smaller than the non-energetic one puts the limits on the speed. In intergalactic travel, deep space acceleration is pretty much “easy” / less energy intensive than the present day Physics makes it to be. And yes, no demarkation boundaries between energetic and non-energetic Universe … good old continuum.

    Just remember, the “gravity” of dense matter prevents light to escape also implies that the integrity of energetic mass is stronger than the forces that would cause the speed reduction due to resistance of light.

    “The preference for stable nuclei comes from the fact that “inside the electron” the nuclei meet at almost no excess kinetic energy and only stable…”

    Unlike the multiple energy levels to be latched “onto” as theorized in the mainstream, the matter has much wider range of “existence-potential”.
    Think of matter as “Parents” & Consumers as “loads” or “Children”. The parens may sporadically offer a few dollars to a roadside-bum, a few 20s to their children every once in a while etc. But if situations demanded rightfully, the parents would “find” (deplete savings / wither down with future debt obligations etc.) money for that emergency need. So, they can offer a spectrum of energy based on needs, based on right mechanism of extraction. Parents don’t say I’ll only dispense in denominations of either 1 or 5 or 20 or 100; any other need won’t be met. Similarly, energetic matter, is the possessor and radiator of energy. After giving out enough energy, the matter withers. Although the qualitative degradation of matter is beyond our current measurement capability, just know that it is there.

    Humanity, therefore, do not exploit LENR. Explore it, use it to become happy but do not produce extra, as profligate waste – just because you can.

    By the time you understand qualitative degradation of matter and master the art of Energy from any source, you better wizen up and limit it’s usage lest you be forced to find another Earth, which may not be as beautiful.

    • GreenWin

      Interesting ideas LL. However “teleportation” of entangled particles (e.g. a photon) is the foundation of some quantum computing concepts. And though I think you correct there is no “wormhole” type teleportation – compressing, bending or folding spacetime allows movement within 4 dimensions quite simple.

      I agree too that caution must be primary in energy-matter transitions. Part of the key IMO is to reduce human fear – which drives the “survival” theory introduced by Darwin. Without fear of artificial enemies, apocalypse, resource limits, etc. – tribal culture has less reason for conflict. Also, two difficult lessons for any parent to learn are – when to let go, and to practice what we preach. It requires rigorous honesty.

      • LilyLover

        Dear GreenWin, About 15 years ago I contended in a paper that the “entanglement” is Laplace no Ma in a specific manner. My hypothesis still stays true. What is it? To be able to read one state and therefore predict the other state of the other particle, even with the predictable dependence is no different than observing something and then reporting the observation. X variables and X unknowns. => Relation between two particles, state changing, oscillating or randomly co-varying, is one relation implying one variable. Not two states because of two separate particles. The predictability of ONE bond between two particles is not he same as TWO variables i.e. involved particles. It would have been an entirely different paradigm IF causing one particle behave in certain manner would also CAUSE another particle to change it’s manner to mirror the other, or predictably co-vary with the other, then, the QE could be said to exist.
        To date, quantum entanglement itself is a pipe dream. Not only the fundamentals of entanglement are wrong, but also the “computing” aspect is more of a marketing hype. If you know my position on AI, similar is the state of “entanglement” science. If you don’t I’ll repost it here. You might like it.
        After arguing with countless professors, well, countable on hands, they all eventually concede that “it’s about to happen”. As of now, “bio-computing” is more real than “quantum computing”. So is mirage more real than the pink-unicorn. Therefore those “some” “quantum computing” “concepts” are totally wrong. Polite people would say – “in my opinion”, but, let me assure you – I am polite at least about my opinion of “quantum computing” or “AI”.

  • GordonDocherty

    “this particle is made of an hydrogen nucleus and an electron kept
    together by the same mechanism that keeps together nucleons inside

    So, an electron close in to the nucleus. Is this not the hydrino?

    This would be in-line with the need for Casimir spaces (reduced ZPE) allowing electrons to approach closer the nucleus.

    With higher energies in localized high-energy electromagnetic vortices, would not these Hyds / hydrinos absorb energy and, under the right localized conditions collapse in on themselves – and, held in situ by the local high-energy electromagnetic vortex (with an associated “electron storm”) create (slow) neutrons in the eye of the vortex…

    So, the ideal geometry would be an ice-cream cone that is excited by an external source (such as heat/IR or laser) – kind of what we see on the nickel particles.

    Once, as you say, the hydrinos / neutrons are formed – and are ejected (injected?) from the vortex direct into the lattice, further reactions take place. Actually, even if the neutrons were higher energy, as they all have a clear direction down the “ice-cream cone” and into the crystal lattice, they will all (more or less) be absorbed. Now, should the cone deform in any way (say, from a very high burst of energy into the lattice), the cone – and hence vortex – is destroyed (leaving a crater) and the reaction stops. This would certainly explain what is seen in SEM images of “used” crystals – pock marks with ejecta, like on the moon…

    I, personally, have always thought there is a relation between hydrinos and LENR, whether you call them hydrinos or “Hyds” …

    • Gerard McEk

      I agree with you, Gordon. When I read about the Hyds I thought and vented the same, but got no answer a few months ago.

      I believe Hyds or Hydrino’s should have been found long ago in CERN or elsewhere, ore are the energies too high in these facilities?
      Making a Hydrino (and also a Hyd?) releases also a lot of energy according Mills so energy conservation may also be a considerable issue in Andrea’s approach.

      • Andrea Calaon

        The Hyd should NOT have been found at CERN. They are NOT fundamental particles. They are like new nuclei, just assembled by an hydrogen nucleus and an electron, and you DO NOT find new nuclei in particle accelerator experiments. In particle accelerator experiments you find FUNDAMENTAL particles that have generally very short lives. Hyd are practically stable and DO NOT GENERATE AT HIGH ENERGIES, but in special low energy conditions.

        I don’t know what to tell you more than this. I would just suggest you to read the draft of my article for ICCF19 and think about it a bit more:

        • Gerard McEk

          Thank you for your answer, Andrea.
          I have carefully read your theory again .
          Just a few questions of a non physicist:
          1. Do you still believe that normally the electron turns around the nucleus and kept together by electrostatic forces?
          2. When does the electron get a ZB? Can a ZB also exist while it circulates the nucleus (assuming the Bohrian model)?
          3. Why would the static electrical charge not keep two protons apart (Coulomb barrier) within the electron ZB? Is the magnetic attraction force larger within the 386 fm distance?
          4. What external current frequencies would influence Hyd reactions? (Susceptibility to a Magnetic Field)
          5. I assume that Hyds can only react with fully ionized nuclei. How does that work with Nickel in the lattice? (Some Nuclei Do Not React).

          • Andrea Calaon

            Thank you Gerard for your attention and your interesting questions.

            1 If you mean in the Hyd, yes. I believe that the Hyd is kept together by an electromagnetic interaction.

            2 The electron IS its Zitterbewegung, always. The ZB is what defines the properties of the orbitals, the fact that the electron can not “free fall” straight into the nucleus, and all its scattering properties, and I would say its mass as well, … practically every feature the electron has. The electron is the clock defined by its charge … but this is philosophy …

            3 Inside the Hyd the magnetic attraction manifest also between any two captured nuclei. They have their spin aligned and their electrostatic repulsion is partly shielded by the presence of the rapidly rotating electron charge. Plus they have the possibility to phase their precession (this is not explained in my texts). All these factors make the magnetic attraction already prevail over the Coulomb repulsion at a few hundred [fm].

            4 In order to estimate the EM frequencies that influence the attraction of the Hyd to other nuclei, it would be necessary to consider many details together, like the emitted field of electron and hydrogen nucleus combined, the precessions, and the emitted field of the nuclei.

            5 Hyd can penetrate any electron shell because they are neutral. So there is no need for ionization. The Hyd that will travel near enough to any nucleus that can be attracted by them, will lock to it and possibly react.

          • Gerard McEk

            Thank you Adrea for answering my questions. I also read your answers at some other locations. The last few days I used to think about the consequences of your theory.
            I know you received a lot of comment on this forum, but I hope you will also answer a few more questions that have come into my mind thinking about this.
            If you assume that a ‘point charge’ spirals around with the speed of light, than that point charge cannot have any mass. I assume that the electron mass equals the total energy confined in this spiralling and circling point charge.
            Q1a: What force makes the point charge spiralling? (It cannot be the mass, or can it?). At the same time this spiralling charge circles a sphere or a globe or trajectory with a diameter of 386 fm. Q1b: Again, what force would causes this spiralling charge making this trajectory and (Q1c:) how can this be stable in time?
            Q2: Do you postulate this just to suit the explanation of LENR?
            Q3: Is all this in line with the quantum mechanics?
            If this all is true, than we need to rethink what matter is. Are you familiar with the work of Stoyan Sarg?

          • Andrea Calaon

            Dear Gerard,
            The point charge can not have mass.
            You say “ I assume that the electron mass equals the total energy confined in this spiralling and circling point charge.”. I guess you assume correctly.
            However the “standard” interpretation of QM sort of “forbids” to look “inside” particles. They have all the properties they have and that is it.
            The Zitterbewegung anyway is a solid consequence of the Dirac equation, which is the best equation we have for describing the electron, even at relativistic speeds.
            So the electron has the ZB. No one will ever object it.
            The Dirac equation, as all the rest of QM is commonly written without an “algebra”, using instead complex numbers and matrices of complex numbers, which are the convoluted tools you have to resort to if you have only “vector spaces”. This “matrix complexity” hides the geometrical significance of the variables. Geometric Algebra instead (the algebra I was mentioning) allows to easily see that for example the equation of Dirac describes in 4D the plane where the ZB takes place, which is orthogonal to the electron spin direction.

            If you google “Geometric Algebra” you will find what everyone should have studied at school. It is the algebra we all should be using for multidimensional things.

            Most of the studies about the ZB in detail have been done by David Hestenes, who has been proposing the use of Geometric Algebra for all his life, not only for QM. I use one of his publications as reference for the ZB.

            Q1: The charge has a helical motion. Nothing more. The helix diameter is 386 [fm] for an external observer when the electron is not flying at relativistic speeds. You are asking the reason for the “structure” of the electron. The standard QM does not answer this. I have some ideas. And some suggestions from friends. But I don’t want to receive another avalanche of questions and objections. So I will not mention them. Anyway it is stable and many think it is a self-interaction.
            Q2: Absolutely not. Answer 1 clarifies this.
            Q3: Yes. The ZB is a consequence of the most “complete” QM equation, the equation of Dirac, which is the relativistic version of the Schrödinger Equation that contemplates the interaction of spin with an external field.I am not familiar with the work of Stoyan Sarg

        • Thomas Clarke

          You do find new nuclei as reaction products (what is an alpha particle?), and the Hyd is particularly easy to find because simple – one hadron+ 1 lepton – even simpler than alpha.

          • Andrea Calaon

            How would you detect it? It has no charge. Inelastic and elastic scattering? Or through the detection of isotopic shifts?

    • Andrea Calaon

      Dear Dr. Docherty,
      In a sense the Hyd IS the hydrino. The difference is that the Hyd is not a small atom. It is the hydrogen nucleus bound to move along the Zitterbewegung race-track of the electron. The size of a Hyd is exactly equal to the size of the electron: Diameter = 386 [fm].

      You can read more about the Hyd on the draft of the article for the proceedings of ICCF19 on this page:
      The NAE does not need energy concentration, despite the fact that everyone is looking for mechanisms to increase and localize the kinetic energy.
      Instead the NAE is something that in a way “slows down” the electron.
      I do not understand your cone and the vortexes.
      The probability of more than one unconventional ingredient for the explanation of all LENR is very near to zero.I think that all LENR are due to the same fundamental mechanism: the generation of Hyd. What is manifold is the NAE. Several completely different systems can make an orbital “oscillate” at radio frequencies with all necessary features.

  • Gerard McEk

    Thomas, I sympathize with your approach of energy conservation, however to really understand the total balance, you need to know all the changes in the ‘fuel’. I do not believe that quantities were measured of the ‘ash’, at least not of the light components (H2, D2, T2, He). From that point of view calculations are impossible to make. Maybe other reactions (isotopic shifts and transmutations) took place which were strongly endothermic, but were happening below the sensitivity of these measurements.
    So maybe it is too early for your kind of approach, because not everything is known and measured and there are questions about the energy released, but I agree that it would be the best proof of the pudding.

  • Sergiu

    Is 1836 Hz the magic frequency that needs to be applied then? Should the width of the pulse be very short or the amplitude very high? This kind of signal can be easily generated with PWM.

    Wondering what would happen if water electrolysis would be done with such a pulsed current instead of continuous current…

    • Andrea Calaon

      Dear Sergiu,
      I don’t know if 1836 Hz is magic, it is the p/e mass ration, and it comes from the simplest way of considering the charge rotation inside the electron and the nucleons. A pulse contains a broad range of frequencies, so a pulse should not be necessary if you are emitting the right one. Another mater is if you want to control power density …
      I would like to know as well what would happen in CF experiments if low RF were applied to devices while they are producing excess heat.

      • Thomas Clarke

        OK – this worries me very much.

        Dimensional analysis:
        p/e mass ratio – scalar
        1836 Hz (1/t)

        No way can the 1863 p/e mass ratio have any relationship to 1836 Hz.

        This is very deeply wrong at a fundamental level so I’m hoping I’ve misunderstood what you are saying.

        • Andrea Calaon

          If you take some time and read my short article you should understand. 1836 is the difference between two frequencies, so it is a frequency.

        • Andrea Calaon

          You are right Thomas,
          I have already replied above.

      • Gerard McEk

        Andrea, I hope to make a LENR controller with a variable AC (PWM pulsed) frequency (high currents with short PWM pulses) to heat the coil and induce EM in the core of the reactor. Do you advice this 1836 frequency as the frequency which should be at least attainable? (Or should it go to e.g. 10 kHz). What would you specify?

        • Andrea Calaon

          Thomas Clarke helped my understand that the 1836 is a mistake.
          It is the ratio of the two intrinsic frequencies, and the highest is VERY high (4.5E23 Hz) , and not a difference of frequencies. So the number/frequency should not be useful. Sorry

          • Gerard McEk

            That is a pitty, so it is unlikely that frequencies in the order of 1-10 kHz have any influence, according to your theory.
            Thanks anyway and also thanks Thomas Clarke, who sharpens the minds of the theorists who try to bring light in how LENR may function.

      • Andrea Calaon

        Some time ago I answered on this thread and, among the many interesting questions, Thomas Clarke helped me understand a huge mistake I had made in estimating the coupling frequency that would allow to have the magnetic attraction between the electron and a hydrogen nucleus.

        Now I have a correction for that frequency.

        The coupling should manifest not only when the the intrinsic frequencies of the two particle are identical, but also when one is an integer number of times the other. The ratio between the intrinsic frequency of the proton and that of the electron is (as precise as it is known) 1836.15267389. The delta frequency necessary for the electron intrinsic frequency to become equal to 1/1836th of the nucleons’ frequency is therefore:

        This coupling frequency corresponds to an energy of 85 [eV] or, equivalently a radiation with a wavelength of 14.6 [nm], in the Extreme Ultra-Violet (EUV) range.
        Only non-valence orbitals of nuclei with proton number higher than 2 reach this energy. Such core orbitals share always the space around the nucleus with other interpenetrated orbitals. This should prevent the coupling and be the reason why Hyd normally are not produced.

        It may be interesting to note that 85 [eV] is not too different from the second ionization energy of lithium, 75.64 [eV], which is by far the highest of all second ionization energies, because the second electron is subtracted from the first principal energy level.

        A possibly interesting fact is that this energy is precisely at the upper limit of the unusual radiation that Randell Mills measures in his plasma ([8]). Emission in the EUV range is absorbed very efficiently in matter and readily transformed into heat, so if the Hyd emit mainly in this range the radiation could remain easily quite confined inside the solid matrix.

        If the NAE in not in a plasma, it should be an electron orbital that has an energy of 85 [eV] and no other internal orbitals. However, as already mentioned, the energy is so high that it can be reached only with nuclei with a proton number > 2. And all orbitals with this energy have always inner orbitals. My “extreme guess” is now that it could be enough for the proton to travel very rapidly near to a naked energetic orbital for the coupling to take place … If this is the case an ionized (+1) Li atom touched lightly by a hydrogen nucleus that has the missing energy (84.985 – 75.6402 = 9.345 [eV]), could provide the necessary frequency and lead to the formation of a Hyd.

        Thomas Clarke, fact police what do you think?

  • peter gluck

    My tangential comments to this paper are on my blog EGO OUT
    It is time to inject realism and pragmatism in Cold Fusion/LENR theories


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  • Andrea Calaon

    Dear Thomas,
    You can find more details in the draft of my article for ICCF19 at this address:
    1 – Because Hyd are like new nuclei and not fundamental particles. Accelerators collide fundamental particles and form others as fragments of the collisions. Moreover Hyd do not originate thanks to high energy. It is somehow the opposite, they form when the electron is sort of “slowed down”.
    2 – See answer 1. I can also add that the special mechanisms that can lead to the formation of Hyd are not present in high energy collisions. These mechanism require long coherence times, which is somehow the opposite of a high energy collision.
    3 – The standard model is untouched. Only the nuclear force (which is not part of the Standard Model) should be interpreted in the correct way as mainly due to an electromagnetic interaction.
    4 – The Cold Fusion theory I have proposed does not entail special features of the weak or the strong interactions.
    5 – I am not questioning quantization or QM. If there are intermediate eigenvalues of the Hyd energy the emitted photons will reflect them. I do not have the Hamiltonian of the bound Hyd state, so I am not able to precisely evaluate energies and states. What I used is just the explanation of the nuclear force as an magnetic attraction that manifests between synchronous rotating charges.
    On the other hand I have a few non-conventional ideas about QM, but they play no role whatsoever in the Cold Fusion theory I described.

    Experimental issues:

    1 – As I said, there are no neutrons because all Cold Fusion reactions producing neutrons are endothermic and require tritium. Soft gammas are easily absorbed by solid matter, plus a large part of the energy is fractionated into even less energetic photons due to the many levels present for the acceleration of the electrons and nuclei.
    2 – About the reactions of Ni and Li n the Hot Cat and my comments about the energy balance and the representativity of the samples, you can look at the pdf document at the end of this page:
    2 – The Hyd explain all Cold Fusion phenomena. If you name one I will try to explain it. I try always to compare experimental data with theoretical prediction. So far I haven’t got stuck. Edmund Storms is very positive about my theory, so my guess is that it actually passes most of the tests …

  • Axil Axil

    This proposed theory fails because it does not demonstrate action at a distance. In experiments with exploding titanium wires, the exploding wire is placed in an icompletely enclosed isolated water filled chamber surrounded by a outer water filled chamber filled with a dissolved uranium salt. After the wire explosion, fission of uranium is found in the outer chamber through detection of the fission ash of urnium.

    This says that no particle based agent is responsible for the LENR reaction.

    • Andrea Calaon

      Dear Axil Axil,

      thank you for the interesting article about exploding Titanium wires.
      With the premise that I am not into exploding wires, I have to say that in the description and in the pictures of the article I do not see the double water filled chamber you are describing. Instead I see a steel shell with inside an externally pressurized high-density polyethylene sealed vessel. Inside the polyethylene vessel there is bidistilled water plus salts and two Ti electrodes, one in foil form.

      The article says:
      “… if some salt of a metal having several isotopes is added to bidistilled water, the number of admixture atoms from the solution that get to the plasma channel would be small compared to the number of Ti atoms.”
      From this I understand that the authors wanted to verify if only the wire and the plasma of the explosion (that invests only a small portion of the solution) are affected by the strange isotopic shifts, or if the nuclear reactions can instead invest the entire surrounding volume occupied by bidistilled water plus salts. The whole water solution volume is clearly much larger than the volume where the plasma forms.

      The experiments described are a very strong confirmation of the presence of a neutral radiation, that can collect nuclei, cause special nuclear reactions privileging stable nuclei, and that has a large magnetic moment. It really seems the description of the Hyd. But let us analyze things more carefully.

      The radiation emanates from the exploding electrode wire and invests the surrounding solution. Since the isotopic shifts are significant the neutral radiation must have reached in part the polyethylene vessel. And in fact the radiation even partly escaped the steel vessel as well!

      In this case it seems U238 has a larger cross section for Hyd then U235 despite having no magnetic moment of first order, while U235 has one. So, as the results of the Lugano test already showed, the first order magnetic moment does not give a complete picture for what regards the cross section with Hyd.

      Hyd can capture more nuclei on their way, always along electron ZB race-track. The nuclei inside the Hyd meet at almost no excess kinetic energy and sort-of disassemble slowly (I admit that I will have to explore and develop much better this part of the theory), so taht the nuclei have the possibility to “explore many combinations” up to when they find the combination that minimizes the excess energy that has to be released as kinetic, when the Hyd breaks apart. Those combinations seem exactly the ones found by Doctor Fillipov and confirmed in the experiments.

      The “collectivity” of the reactions is due to the collecting capability of the Hyd. I agree with the conclusion that “Since weak interactions are characterized by small cross-sections, a catalyst is needed”. The catalyst that is able to gather more nuclei in a few femtometer range is exactly the electron which acts as a “race-track for nuclei”.

      It seems the Hyd flux was so intense that it managed to exit the steel chamber. I would not stand near to these experiments …

      There are no delta electrons because the Hyd have no charge and do not knock off electrons from orbitals.

      The conclusion that “The particle which left the trace in the nuclear emulsion is charged, as nuclear emulsions are insensitive to neutrons” is wrong because the authors do not consider the existence of a neutral radiation which is not made of neutrons, which is precisely made of Hyd.

      The conclusion “The particle cannot have electric charge, as otherwise it could not be able to pass through two meters of atmospheric air and two layers of black paper” is right.

      Another interesting feature is the fact that the traces were strongly influenced by a magnetic field. This confirms that the neutral particle has a large magnetic moment. In fact the magnetic moment of the Hyd is similar to that of the electron, about one thousand times larger than any nuclear magnetic moment.

      The “strange” radiation is precisely the consequence of neutral Hyd crossing solid matter. It is precisely one of the most evident while unusual evidences that are in agreement with the theory I am proposing.

      Summarizing. The article you suggested is one of the most compelling evidences in favour of the existence of the Hyd.
      Axil Axil, I have to thank you because I had never explored carefully the exploding wire experiments.

      • Axil Axil

        The premise of the paper is that a monopole is the cause of the reaction. That monopole is particle like and is free to move in liquid/plasma based reactions. This electron based monople (AKA EV as per Ken Shoulders) is also formed in the proton 21 experiments and LeClairs cavatation experiments. The reason why the LENR causation particle is monipole and not a Hyd is that the monopole can contain a large amount of kinetic energy and the Hyg cannot. Think of this monople as a nano sized ball lightning.

        Proton 21 has measured the energy content of this electron vortex at hundreds of MeVs, LeClair has seen holes in this walls and in the trees outside his office caused by these monopoles that have pass through the walls of his reactor. LeClair has see a monopole eat through 2 meters of copper. The energy content of that monopoles is truly mind boggling. The Hyd cannot carry such huge amounts of energy.

        You are mistaking the EV, aka soliton, aka ball lightning, aka monopole for the Hyd. The idea behind the Hyd is just to overcome the coulumb barrier whereas the soliton carries huge energy that produces the nuclear reactions and can move freely through space.

        • Andrea Calaon

          I see, Ok.

  • Omega Z

    Your number s are the overall numbers.
    I believe the last few hours indicated very close to 3.5Kw.
    If I find the time, I’ll take another look.

  • Andrea Calaon

    Dear Mark,
    I interpret the comments more as possible precious occasions of improvement or suggestions of a better explanation, more than pointless critics.

  • Thomas Clarke

    Ok – I’m putting a pointer here to a matter that anyone contemplating this idea should consider.

    1836 is the p/e mass ratio. A scalar. Andrea says below that this is the reason you need 1836 Hz. A frequency.

    That is impossible – deeply wrong because seconds are not a natural unit and you cannot therefore compare a number (1836) with a frequencies measured in units of 1/second. The latter unit is arbitrary. Dimensional analysis means you cannot equate ratios and frequencies.

    This is a big deal – but maybe I’ve just misunderstood Andrea below.

    Apologies for not joining this discussion earlier – I’ve now replied to all Andreas’ replies to my first comments I think. However, this 1836 problem is separate from that and more fundamental.

    • Andrea Calaon

      Dear Thomas,
      about the 1836 issue you are right. It is a silly mistake and I will need to reconsider the electron – nucleon coupling conditions. Let me anyway try so answer to your other many questions and observations. I will not have too much time in the weekend. I will do my best.

    • Andrea Calaon

      I would like to add that you get 1836… only using the magnetic moments of the particles, their g-factors, and the charge rotations. I then noticed it is identical to the mass ratio. But it could be something that happens “by definition”.

  • Thomas Clarke


    I regret that I did not, below, address your point that QCD is unpredictaive and cannot be calculated.

    Your reference was 2006.

    Have a look at a 2013 review:

    • Andrea Calaon

      Thank you Thomas!

      I will read the reference carefully trying to understand as much as I can. Cheers

  • Andrea Calaon

    I think I have made clear my position on the Standard Model, QCD and nuclear force in my exchange with police.
    If 26 years after Cold Fusion became first public we are still discussing about its mechanism, PART OF IT MUST BE SOMETHING NOT COMMONLY ACCEPTED BY THE COMMUNITY OF PHYSICISTS. So, I chose one, and only one, uncommon ingredient, already present in the scientific literature. I used the proposal of Prof. Valerio Dallacasa and Norman D. Cook (made in the ‘80s), and assumed that the nuclear force is mainly electromagnetic (or electroweak). In this way I can say that the nuclear force mechanism could manifest between electron and naked nuclei. Without this assumptions electrons would not participate because, as everyone knows, they do no interact through the strong force. Simple as this. I think the strong interaction, whatever it is, remains confined inside nucleons, with families of quarks, colour charge, 8 gluons, asymptotic freedom, and all the rest.
    QCD has predicted the existence (not the mass), of a number of particles and is a huge achievement.
    I repeat what I have already said to make things even more clear:
    I am not suggesting something against a sea of evidence, theory and history. I am just using an ingredient that was proposed and published by expert physicists (Dallacasa and Cook), NOT BY ME. So actually what I did is only putting things together, may be clumsily.

    Answering your questions:

    Testing the Hyd theory in the “particle way” I guess could be done for example trying to deflect the Hyd through a magnetic field and verify that the mass and the magnetic moment are not those of the neutron.

    Once you have the electron binding to naked nuclei a long series of Cold Fusion evidences can be explained, or at least have at least a chance of being explained, including the titanium wire explosions proposed by Axil Axil.

    If the mechanism of generation of Hyd (the NAE) is (for example) related to the properties of a closed orbital, high energy collisions should not be able to generate them, I imagine. In this case it should not be a problem of energy, but of mechanism. And this mechanism must somehow be related and reachable through chemistry and electromagnetic stimulation.

    Now I hope you understand that your recommendation/suggestion/critics:

    “Physics is not just some vague idea scribbled down. It is something put together with much pain, effort, and trial and error, and validated through predictions it makes. Some bits better validated than others. You here are I feel not being polite to the very many ground-breaking physicists who have contributed to our current not complete but amazlngly accurate understanding of subatomic physics. Surely it is worth looking at the experimental evidence that supports this when proposing something different?”.
    is out of place. I don’t think I am underestimating any overwhelmingly proven and successful part of physics. The idea that the nuclear force could be mainly electromagnetic and not the a residual strong interaction is not mine and not new. If anyone will show (not suggest through an elegant and complex architecture) that the nuclear potential is really due to the strong interaction I will simply acknowledge that the proposal of Valerio Dallacasa and Norman D. Cook is not correct. I don’t think what you have written is appropriate for these two scientists either, who, differently from me, really know the subject and doubt about the correctness of the residual strong force. I think they proposed their theory without being impolite “to the very many ground-breaking physicists …”

  • Andrea Calaon

    (2) You get 1836… only using the magnetic
    moments of the particles, their g-factors, and the charge rotations. It is the ratio of the intrinsic frequencies of proton and electron. After getting it I noticed it is identical to the mass ratio. But it could be
    something that happens “by definition”. May be you can check if it is the case.
    At ICCF19 some Russian approached me saying that a Russian scientist some year ago had found something similar. So far I haven’t received a comment on this.

  • Andrea Calaon

    Dear police, dear Thomas,
    to support our chats, I have found an interesting article (simply arXiv) about the state of the art of Lattice QCD in 2013, that you probably know already:

    The author (Martin J. Savage) is confident in the future success of QCD, and declares: “Ideally, one would start with a LQCD calculation and predict all of the quantities of interest in low-energy nuclear physics. Presently, we are not in a position to do this”. So there is still some time to wait. Many masses have now been post-dicted and this for sure is the nth success of QCD for the single nucleons and their inner structure.

    police: I am definitely NOT qualified for judging QCD and its chances because I know only its version “for dummies”. My work as engineer has hardened me towards “only seeing is believing” (I hope you understand what I mean). This is why I am convinced CF is real, by the way.

    My statement about the civilization and the lack of understanding of the nuclear force when answering to Axil Axil was just a strong statement that I thought would match the strong claims of Axil Axil (which is where all this discussion started from).

    Anyway my conclusion so far is that without a more or less stable coupling between electron and a hydrogen nucleus it simply not possible to explain the evidences of CF. And the coupling explains qualitatively many experimental results. What could be the reason of such coupling if not an electromagnetic origin of the nuclear force? I am with almost no other choices left.

    I am looking forward to see what the Lattice simulations will say.
    Thank again you both for your engagement with me.