Rossi on Reactors Working in Concert for High Self-Sustain Periods

Andrea Rossi has commented about how he has achieved synergy between multiple reactors within his 1 MW plant, and that is what has allowed for the high periods of self-sustain mode. Once he talked about having a ‘cluster’ of reactors, but yesterday said that word was vague and used wrongly.

A reader suggested that it might be better to talk of “many reactors in concert.” This seemed to please Andrea Rossi who replied:

Andrea Rossi
June 5th, 2015 at 9:20 PM
Dan C.:
The concert model is proper: wherein many instruments can make a harmony that is not just the sum of single sounds: resonances can generate virtual entities whose energy is higher than the sum of the energy of the singles.
The Mouse has a driving license, of course!
Next time you bake a cake I send him to make the pick up.
Speaking seriously: thank you for your insight.
Warm Regards

I find it interesting to see the analogy between E-Cats and musical instruments here — since it seems that in both cases things like harmonics, waveform, frequency, apply — and when you you combine them you can get resonances between them.

The phrase “resonances can generate virtual entities whose energy is higher than the sum of the energy of the singles”, could be describing an important element in getting the high periods of self-sustain mode.

  • Daniel Maris

    Great. Now let’s see the orchestra perform in the concert hall…the overture has gone on long enough!

  • Gerard McEk

    I cannot wait to have my LENR controller constructed. It is able to generate short AC spikes (from < 0.01 msec onward) of high currents and can be PWM to accomodate power input control. It provides also short circuiting of the heating coil for damping the out of control run-away of LENR, if that would happen. I just wonder if just DC PWM control would suffice. That would make the controller cheeper and simpler. On the other hand: I believe the prototype should be made such that different wave-forms (e.g.10 Hz to 10 kHz and of different shapes) can be generated for research purposes. What would you suggest?

    • Axil Axil

      I beleive that the short duration and very sharp rise time of the pulse is more inportant to the effectiveness of the stimulation of the reaction than the high current output. Instantanious power in a very short pulse might be greater than a slow rising pulse with high current,

      A pulse can be made so short that it does not heat the lattice. This fast pulse is what Brillouin Energy uses to stimulate their reaction.

      • clovis ray

        Axil axil
        May I ask , does all matter it’s own own resonance, if so why couldn’t the nickel be pulsed at it’s given frequency, in order to get the effect started , and maintained.

        • GreenWin

          It probably could clovis. Peter Hagelstein suggests physical shock can start the reaction “ringing.” So too could a tuning fork adjusted to the resonance of the reactor fuel.

      • Gerard McEk

        I have to work with the electrical laws, Axil. The coil is an inductance. To get a high di/dt (or more importanly a high dH/dt) you need a relatively high voltage and fast switching devices like IGBT’s. Also a low resistance of the coil will help. That is what I intend to use. The number of turns of the coil should be low to get a low inductance, but high to get a high field strength (H). I think I would choose the limited number of turns. This all with the aim to get the highest dH/dt with the shortest current pulse.

  • Gerard McEk

    Jim, you suggested right. I was an electrical and control engineer. See my answer to Axil above as well.

  • Matteo172

    This comment refers to the Hutchison Effect video that Alan DeAngelis posted

  • Axil Axil

    These vortex based solitons have be seen is a number of LENR experiments. Defkalion has seen this and reported it in their IFFC-18 paper:

    “Rydberg States (atoms/molecules) created + Ni magnetized above

    Curie Temp. creating nano-scale localized magnetic traps

    (LMTs) with short life-times on Ni surfaces , most probably due to

    Plasmon-Nanoplasma interactions [16,17]”

    This solitons explode in a “Bosenova”. As a result of his observations, Dr. Kim has added the Bosenova to his BEC theories.

    There is a soliton/vortex/plasmoid basis for cavatation, brown’s gas, and Ken Sholder’s Evs.

    LeClair has seen free moving solitons punching holes in his walls and his trees outside his lab.

    The Proton21 experiment has seen free roaming vortexes produced in their experiments.

    Also See

    IMHO, Ball lightning is the SPP soliton produced on the macro scale.

  • Alan DeAngelis

    Good points Matteo. But if it were me, I don’t think I’d grab that thing even if it was cold after the juice was turned off. How about Kim Kardashian with one of those handheld infrared thermometers (like the one Rossi points at the Hot-Cat)?

  • Axil Axil

    There has been a wide range of experimental results that show the light released from the Dark mode solitons is in the soft x-ray range. This shows that the energy absorbed by the soliton increases from the infrared range to these higher XUV wavelength values.

    Does that not say the the solitons can advance in energy content above the wavelength of light that first formed them?

  • Alan DeAngelis

    The “best minds” have been the biggest impediment to LENR for the past quarter of a century. I would prefer to see Rossi work on it by himself.

    • Bob Greenyer

      I have posted one option in the dedicated thread.

  • Axil Axil

    Dekalion exposed their technowogy to a major extent during the ICCF-18 and NI conferences. They were ignored and even worse was accused of fraud. Dr. Kim put out a revealing paper but pulled it back. He would not have put out a draft if he was unsure of his experimental observations. Why Kim pulled the paper back is unknown, but it might have been the fraud accusation. But the Defkalion design lives on in the AIRBUS patent.

    If the past is prolog, the best minds will at best ignore the LENR technology. Rossi is right, when you have an E Cat lighting and heating your home, the best minds mignt be willing to look into LENR.

  • Omega Z

    You would have 2 primary camps.
    Those who think Rossi is pretty much taking the right track AND Those who think it should be Open Source.

    Open Source would spread the INFORMATION Faster.
    Rossi’s path will spread the Hardware Technology faster.

    The reason is that this technology will require 100’s of Billion$ in up front investment. That kind of investment requires a certain amount of guarantees.(IP’s) 10 or 20 years latter when these IP’s expire, it wont matter. The ground work foundations will already have been set.

    If this technology is open sourced, we will have to wait until certain entities devise their own technology that can be covered by IP before the big investments come along.

    The 1 thing both camps would agree on is they wish it would come about faster. Probably the primary reason some would like to see it open sourced. In the end, tests have to be performed & if that’s a 12 month test, No amount of money will shorten that test or the number of tests that Government will require..

  • clovis ray

    Hi, guys, I love open source science, great minds working together, what better science could there be, but you see, Dr. Rossi didn’t have any help, save Dr. Forcardi, this is his baby, he created it, and now he knows all about it, we on the other hand have to search for it. at least until this last test is preformed, I love all this testing everyone is doing, because it gives me a better knowledge of what is going on in the reactor, soon Dr. Rossi will tell all, if we have not figured it out by then.
    Dr Rossi, has been very crafty, in navigating all the horror’s and dangerous water between prototype and product, when no one else could have.

  • James Andrew Rovnak

    We did see some of these resonance EM TRIAC inputs in the Lugano report from the PCE 830 trace presented in that report of input current shape & its frequency spectrum.

  • Axil Axil