Testing Update — Looking for LENR (Frank Acland)

I thought I would give an update here about some testing I have been doing personally recently. I have seen something that I find encouraging, and has got me motivated to keep going.

First of all, I must say I am very much a novice with this kind of experimentation, and I am learning as I go along. Basically I am just doing this for my own curiosity and enjoyment. I am using a very basic setup, using a fuel core that has been provided to me by another researcher (who for now does not want to be identified), so I feel like I can’t take any credit for the testing I am doing. I have just put some equipment together and am taking measurements.

I first planned to use a PID to stabilize temperatures, and measure input. However I purchased a solid state relay that did not work with my PID — so I have to put that on hold for the time being. So for the time being I decided to try something more simple.

The components on the circuit are a wattmeter at the power outlet, an AC motor speed controller (basically a dimmer). These are hooked to a coil made of Kanthal A1 wire that is insulated with ceramic wool and is placed inside a cylindrical metal container (an empty Bush baked beans can). I measure the temperature using the thermometer part of the PID hooked to a thermocouple which is stuffed inside the insulation near the wire core. The fueled core is made of ceramic, and my supplier tells me it contains about 1 gram a ‘Parkhomov mixture’ — nickel powder (90%) and lithium aluminum hydride powder (10%). It is sealed with a ceramic cement. It has been pre-baked by the supplier, so I have not done any special treatment on it.

Ceramic core inside (broken) coil
Heater with core inside

The testing is simple. I set the output with the knob on the dimmer, then watch the temperature until it reaches a steady state. After that, I turn off the power, insert the core into the coil and start it up, keeping the power output the same. Then I watch until the temperature reaches a steady state.

This morning I did a test using this process. Here are the results. With an input of around 401 Watts (it fluctuated slightly), the empty coil reached a temperature of 802 C; with the same power input the temperature reached 875 C after I put the coil inside. I held the temperature for about 15 minutes in both cases. Unfortunately, after I turned off the power for the fueled test, when I turned it back on again, I found that the wire had broken, so I will have to wind some more cores before winding

I don’t want anyone to think of this being a scientific report, it’s just a post by someone tinkering in a garage — so take it for what it’s worth, but I found the results interesting and encouraging, and I want to do more and better tests. I hope to increase temperatures in the future — without burning out coils, which has been a problem so far.

I will be happy to answer any questions here, and will be happy to take suggestions.

Frank Acland

  • Bob Greenyer

    Welcome to the Party Frank!

  • Private Citizen

    walking the walk. good on you.

  • Stephen

    Great! Good luck Frank

  • Sanjeev

    Nice to see you doing your own experiments.
    All the best Frank and keep us updated.

  • Gerard McEk

    Nice to see you doing these things Frank and courageous too. I hope you enjoy it. Be careful!

  • Christina

    Caution first! You have only one body, one life. Take great care.

    • Obvious

      Please be careful. This sport becomes addicting.
      It is easy to quickly progress from a simple garage experiment to a rack of different power supplies, many tubes, dozens of coils, several digital meters and data loggers….

  • Freethinker

    P~T^4 for a black body. Now, this is then likely the upper limit, but still
    P2=401* (273+875)^4/(273+802)^4=521W, meaning that your Pin/Pout=1.30.

    Nice Going!

  • ss dd

    Seeing someone get started with a more rudimentary design just shows how far the MFMP has gone! Hope you get some interesting results!

  • clovis ray

    Hey, Frank, are we having fun yet, can i play, smile.

    • clovis ray

      Hey, frank i have this little fluke hand helt IR thermometer,i can send it to you, if you would like,

      it can read -40°C to 760°C (-40°F to 1400°F). Plus, the enhanced optics allow you to measure smaller objects further away

      • ecatworld

        Thanks so much for the offer, Clovis — but most temps I am trying to measure are above the 760 C limit. It might not be so useful at the moment.

  • ecatworld

    Thanks to everyone for the good wishes. I will try to be very careful. I don’t have a huge amount of funds or time to devote to this testing, I have just been mainly trying to satisfy my own curiosity, and see if it might be possible to see the Rossi effect in a relatively simple experiment.

  • hempenearth

    All the best Frank from far away. And don’t forget Andrew Riley.

    • ecatworld

      Thanks! Who is Andrew Riley?

      • hempenearth

        The cold fusion scientist who died at SRI, in the early nineties

        • ecatworld

          Ok, thanks — yes I remember now.

  • Kevmo

    Good luck, Frank. Do you have a video camera so that skeptopaths won’t claim you cheated or are a super magician apprentice?

    • ecatworld

      I do have a camera, but I’m not sure a film would convince those who are deeply skeptical, and I’m not sure I want to go to the time and expense of trying to prove LENR to the skeptics.

      • Kevmo

        Well, with a setup so simple as yours, you might put it on youtube and convince a few thousand tinkerers to do their own replication. The aggregate weight of a thousand tinkerers submitting basic replication papers to NATURE magazine would set the world on its head.

        • Been there, Seen it

          Don’t encourage replicators who don’t have access to the Parkhomov magic mixture. They will kill themselves!

      • Video will not convince. Also your data will not convince.

        What will convince is: Build a reactor who is working reliable and shows undoubtable excess heat. Then write down your protocol to build and drive it very detailled.
        Go to a big university in your nearby and let them test your reactor and help them to replicate it with your protocol instructions. Then let them write a paper for nature, journal of physics or something else.

        Nothing else, except maybe the market entry of E-Cat will convince.

        • Paul

          It is quite clear that this first replication was made only for fun…

          • I know that.
            My post was related to the “make a video to convince skeptics” post of Kevmo.

            Nothing else.

        • builditnow

          Barty, numerous working reactors that are doing useful work will interest the public and break the NONscience cone of silence.

  • R101

    Thumbs up Frank! I think a lot of us here would like to be doing the same sort of experiments, but can’t for one reason or another.

    Best of luck and thanks for sharing!

  • Sanjeev

    Another explorer joins the adventure.

    Wanted to post in always open thread but can’t access it from mobile site.

  • clovis ray

    Hey, buddy.
    How about we start a project fund, to help out with off the off the shelf stuff ,

    • ecatworld

      It’s a nice idea, Clovis, but I’m not sure I’m in the best situation to do a lot of rigorous testing. I am hoping we can get a local university to agree to some more rigorous testing in a professional lab environment.

      • Mats002

        I think those of us who can should try to do that, we are spread around the world and most people have a local university nearby.

        When MFMP ‘call it’ – can be soon – I think it is time to call some contact at the local school. A presentation with some slides with highlights from the past years should help a lot.

        What milestones do You consider worth a slide? A good rule of thumb is 2 minutes per slide and maximum 30 minutes to have time for questions and discussions, calculates into 15 slides of LENR background, state of the art and the final hook – the DIY proposal!

        Why should the average university replicate? Arguments needed. Risks with experimenting will certainly be questioned. What’s in it for them if a) “official science” start to move and what if b) they don’t, at least not yet