CERN To Host Seminar on “The Anomalous Heat Effect on D/H loaded Palladium”

I have just received information about a seminar that will be held at CERN in Geneva, Switzerland on October 14, 2015 from 14:30 to 15:30 titled “The Anomalous Heat Effect on D/H loaded Palladium”.

There will be three speakers at the seminar: Graham Hubler of The Sidney Kimmel Institute for Nuclear Renaissance (SKINR) at the University of Missouri, Vittore Violante of ENEA (Italian energy research institute), and Juliana Schell of CERN

Here’s a link to a description of the event from CENR:

It’s interesting to see that CERN itself is doing some research into the ‘Anomalous Heat Effect’ (some people prefer this term to LENR or cold fusion). Here’s a summary of their findings to date from the above description:

“The third part of the presentation will review our recent preliminary in-situ PAC measurements performed at the SSP labs at ISOLDE during the electrolysis in 0.1 M LiOH or LiOD for 181Hf implanted Pd cathodes at the BONIS – HISKP Bonn separator.

“The data for LiOD electrolyte show anomalous, variable high frequency electric field gradient (EFG) components that appear / disappear near specific loading ratio of D/Pd that is not evident for LiOH electrolyte. This high frequency component does not appear in static samples so it may be attributed to the dynamics of D loading at the 30 nm implantation depth of the Hf. Details of the data analysis and possible explanations will be discussed, as well as possible complementary experiments to further elucidate the findings. “

  • I’ve heard at ICCF that there was SKINER efforts to collaborate with CERN on some measurements…
    it seems it worked.

    • Bob Greenyer

      What – like…

      Pd 46 DD

      Sorry, best I could do with the material.

    • clovis ray

      HI, Alain
      yep, and they have some of the best minds in the world, to figure out just about anything, they have a huge amount of collages working with them, around the world, they are one of our great hopes in this new world.

      • competence is no problem, and with age I observed that you can do great things with non-exceptional minds, who have good emotion in good group.

        the group effect, the emotions allows sometime intelligence to addup instead of dividing or substracting. Intelligence can be negative, or useless depending where it goes… I see that well with cryptodenialism, where intelligence works well.

        the problem of CERN is like corporate culture. they do big science. hopefully, scientist are a bit strange so some really keep creativity and defend it well…

        I see with pleasure that they don’t only do LHC as we see here…

        BARC, LANL, Spawar, and some garage have produced good result too, sometime better.

        1mW of LASER light can have more impact than 1W of white light.

  • Revelation is starting to dawn on the establishment.

  • Mats002

    CERN have had seminars about LENR since at least 2012, they are more open than US fascilities obviously.

    • Bob Greenyer

      They also send representatives to ICCF conferences – normally hiding in the corners of Thai restaurants – trying to listen in – but, then, when you are open – not a problem!

      • the “representative” I’ve seen were mostly hiding from their boss 😉
        I cannot criticize, as I’m hiding from my boss too.

        I’m often very nastyly talking about physicist, but it is unfair.
        Beaudette use the word “outspoken physicist” to name the people who did much evil against cold fusion.

        most scientists were either conservative, or enthusiast on cold fusion, most curious or not interested… but very few started to be aggressive.
        aggressivity developed as a group effect, in public place, because of few aggressive people like Nathan Lewis, Douglas Morrison, Huizenga , parks…
        Few parrots and mindguard , mostly not scientists, raised the flag of oppostion to cold fusion…

        anyway the evil came from the silence of most scientists and journalists and academic actors…
        most chemist, material physicist, were simply ready to accept LENR. Indian, japanese, Chinese, many EU even British (BAAS) seemed to be ready to consider LENR, but they surrendered to nature, Science, DoE, Ivy league, terror program.

        the evil win not because of a handful of outspoken toxic personalities, but because of the kind and weak obedience of the masses.

        • Stephen

          It saddens me but I think you put your finger exactly on the point. Except that blindly following assumptions and lack of awareness may be also played a part.

          I hope more and more individuals and organisations learn about LENR and speak up about it. The detailed and developed knowledge and experience they have with particle physics in CERN, proton beam experiments with different target materials in medical research, nuclear magnetic resonance and magnetic containment, nanoscale physics, plasmonics and quasiparticle effects as well as nuclear and atomic physics knowledge etc should be being applied to furthering our understanding of LENR as well.

          • Alan DeAngelis

            Maybe their knowledge and experience won’t help that much.

            “Nuclear and high energy physicists seem to be unaware of the fact that phenomena in materials are not always as reproducible as are phenomena in their field. Transistors are a good example of variability in solid state devices.”
            Brian Josephson (his comment here)

        • Omega Z

          “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.” –
          Edmund Burke

  • Gerard McEk

    Cern belonged to the institutes that deliberately banned Pons and Fleischmann and accused them of fraud without proper reasons after a very brief investigation. Now after more than 25 years they seem to get a bit more interested. But they will never be excused for what they have done to these two brave pioneers. Only a very meant apollogize may improve a slightly bit of their shedded image.

    • clovis ray

      well, Gerald, that’s the first i heard that, do you have a link to that accusation i do know they confirmed the existence of lenr and said as much when everyone else was call us scam artist, Cern have been looking at this effect for a while now, i my self have been registered since the beginning and keep track of their machine, and what a grand machine it is too, largest and most expensive in the world, and they are doing great research.

      • Alan DeAngelis

        Yes, it’s very impressive. I’m sure that the facility that houses that massive machine will become one of the world’s greatest museums.

      • Gerard McEk

        When P&F published their discovery, many labs immeniately starte to verify their claims. Cern was one of them. A colleague of mine worked there at the time and he hold me that they more or less ‘aimed’ to results that would be negative. By just keeping the tests to below the 90 days (necessary according P&F to get sufficient D2 in the palladium) hardly any results were found (except in MIT)

    • Alan DeAngelis

      Gee, maybe there’s something to it

      (now that the E-Cat is as obvious as Krakatoa erupting).

      • bachcole

        I see Krakatoa rumbling. I know it is a volcano, but, for me, it is not yet erupting. The E-Cat will have far more effect on the world than Krakatoa had.

    • Alan DeAngelis

      It might be a more productive seminar if they played this video (that someone put on one of the LENR websites before) at the beginning of the seminar.

  • Alan DeAngelis

    This is “the world’s best example of pathological science”
    (see 17:20 min.).

  • GordonDocherty

    October 14th, CERN AHE (presumably, Saint-Genis-Pouilly on the French/Swiss Border)

    then, a quick trip across France to:

    October 15th -16th, 11th International Workshop on Anomalies in Hydrogen Loaded Metals, Airbus, Toulouse, France

    Alas, can’t go, but I hear the South of France is very nice this time of year… 🙂

  • Omega Z

    (and include it in his comments on NATURES- “Week in Science”)

    Never going to happen.
    That issue now says- “Comments for this thread are now closed.”
    Below that it says-“There are currently no comments.”

  • Alan DeAngelis

    Yeah, but it didn’t help them understand or predict LENR. In fact, instead of helping, their assumptions mislead us for a quarter of a century. They thought it was nonsense.

  • Alan DeAngelis

    Because CERN was so off the mark in their understanding of LENR in 1989, I find myself wondering about what else they may have missed. I think the F&P affair has open up a huge can of worms.

    Videos like this one are now catch my eye.

  • radvar

    from 14:30 to 15:30…one hour? Ah, well, gotta start somewhere.