Rossi: Studying Use of ABB Collaborative Robots for E-Cat Production Line

Over the years we have heard Andrea Rossi talk about having a “robotic factory” build E-Cats when they move into the mass production phase of E-Cats. For a long time it was rather a vague statement, but today we get a better idea of what has been on Rossi’s mind. Here’s a question and response from the Journal of Nuclear Physics today about ABB Robotics (Asea Brown Boveri), a major robotic company based in Zurich, Switzerland.

Gunnar Lindberg
September 27th, 2015 at 10:05 AM
Dear Andrea Rossi,
May I ask if you are collaborating with Asea Brown Boveri using their robots? They have capacity to build a robotic factory within months.
Best regards¨
Gunnar Lindberg

Andrea Rossi
September 27th, 2015 at 1:38 PM
Gunnar Lindberg:
Yes, we are studying their small “Collaborative Robots” and I think that they will be integrated in our production systems. Congrats: you understand quickly.
Warm Regards,

To get a better idea of what ABB’s latest collaborative robots are all about, here’s a video from the company discussing their next generation of robots, and this might be what Rossi has in mind for making the E-Cat. Rossi has said that they are looking to make their devices as economically as possible, to create economies of scale, and discourage reverse engineering — and automation will need to play an important role in that effort. I can’t imagine these robots come very cheap, and there will need to be a good deal of investment to set up a production line with them.

  • Roland

    ABB heuristic robots are a breakout product in every regard, including price, according to the articles I’ve read. They can self replicate, i.e. these robots can assemble ABB robots, and if the factory power requirements can be met by low cost LENR systems…

  • clovis ray

    Frank,so is it, Nobody can seriously think that we will be ready to distribute the E-Cats in months! or Asea Brown Boveri using their robots? will have capacity to build a robotic factory within months.

    • Daniel Maris

      My reading of the situation has always been that assembly of E Cats is relatively simple (compared with say assembling an automobile or aeroplane – the latter can have a million plus parts).

      So once, you have your basic parts manufactured, assembly by robot does seem doable.

      It could be important if Rossi is looking to protect his IP – have a final assembly point where few humans are involved.

    • Axil Axil

      If a reactor is built through automation that reactor should be tested extensively before sale to a customer.

      • Jarea

        Hahaha another year test, yes please 😉

        • clovis ray

          what ARE you talking about, as each reactor comes along the assembly line, it will be tested of course,I think this is what the O man was saying,

      • Omega Z

        It will be extensively tested.
        Every lithium battery is tested before it leaves the plant. I think people would be surprised at all the products they buy that are extensively tested before their packaged & shipped.

  • Owen Geiger

    Count me as skeptical. Sure, robotic assembly lines are most efficient for mass production of standardized items. But it seems to me the E-Cat is still in a relatively early design stage. The design could change every 6-12 months, canceling out the savings from the robots.

    • Zack Iszard

      With the right robots, design change requires a software change only – not hardware. Perhaps a tool or two might get swapped out, but we’re not talking completely new bots.

      Not only that, but good manufacturing design can allow for the “evolution” of a factory without replacing much capital along the way, which saves costs and maximizes process development efficiency.

      • Owen Geiger

        Let’s hope so. But the E-Cat has changed considerably over the last 6 months or so. Who knows how fast it will continue to evolve. Maybe the design has matured to where it can soon be mass produced.

    • Montague “Spitfire” Withnail

      He’s all over the place. There should be no room in his brain at all to think about this sort of stuff, let alone blog about it to strangers. I know for sure I wouldn’t be writing this now if I had a working LENR technology and the funding to develop it. Makes me deeply sceptical.

  • psi2u2

    Yep. We need to talk about the social implications, for sure. Our friend Mats Lewan has been out in front on this question, just like he has on LENR. We need a social order that is neither purely capitalistic nor purely socialistic, but is able to appropriately allocate resources in a world where traditional definitions of work are becoming obsolete because most work is done by smart machines. We’ve got about 50 years to figure it out, methinks.

  • Zack Iszard

    That first paragraph there, probably the most intelligent thing I’ve read all month long.

    The only way we can make it through the crash of the worker class is if the most influential corporate commanders realize exactly the way that they need a healthy consumer class in order to thrive as they have. Consumer wealth is required for corporate wealth in markets based on consumer goods and services.

    A broad-reaching social change in the perceptions of how the said consumer class can generate value without a traditional job would also be a big help, for example posting weekly youtube videos of the way you go about your favorite hobby to an audience of 50,000 subscribers.

  • bachcole

    Not a very good way to handle it, but because too many politicians are lacking too much gumption and vision, this may be what happens.

  • Omega Z

    It will work out.
    I’m more concerned with the up coming problem.
    4 people- 1 to old, 1 to crippled up, 1 to young to work, and 1 to take care of the other 3. That’s a lot for 1 person to shoulder. He will appreciate the robots help.

  • true, if we stay inside the industrial “job-centered” reality of Ford T

    now imagine
    1 still work as self employed to help his neighbors, because he can and he is paid for. because he is helped by an army of bot, by his nephew, and advised by many internet sites and AI. He is in good health because he still work, for himself and not for a stupid young boss, who understand nothing…
    1 already run a kid business, produce courses for his younger peers, manage youngers kids and older people, with help and watch of computers, crowd and robots. He also run a crop-factory with the help of his granddad, and many bots that his crippled neigbour found for him on Amazon.
    1 is locked in his bed and manage an internet business, is appreciated by others for his advices (paid) on chess and Go, on buying, survey information on the mattrix, and watch the neigourhouses with the helps of some drone.
    1 work at google 48h a week to designe new drones and crowdtools, plus 20h to run a blog on emdrive revolution all the night, and exploit (ok, pays with big bucks, earned from google tax) shamefully his neigbours because he have no time.

  • giovanniontheweb

    RD and production are not necessarily well going together, within he right protective measures outsourcing might be the best solution instead of building up a brand new industrial chain

  • TomR

    I am probably not the only person watching the stock price of ABB.

    • bachcole

      I don’t know who ABB is or why I should be watching their stock price. I remember ‘ABB’ here but I forgot who they are. Perhaps if you just told us who they are and what is happening to their stock price, then I wouldn’t be such an ignoramus. (:->)

      • TomR

        I tried to write this reply this morning but it was slow. It is still slow, but not as bad. The price was $17.27 Friday and closed today at $17.67.

  • clovis ray

    Hi, Yep,with ecat powered robots planting, cultivating, and harvesting, along with distribution, preparation,and served on a silver platter, lol.