Rossi on Scaling Down the E-Cat X to a Few Watts

Thanks to Stephen for posing some interesting questions to Andrea Rossi on the Journal of Nuclear Physics about scaling down the E-Cat X. Here are his questions, along with Rossi’s responses.


I have a couple a small questions I have been curious about if I may.

1.Would the new materials developed for e-cat X also improve the reliability of the 1MW e-cat plant or are the issues there different?

A:  the improvements are applicable also to the 1 MW E-Cat

2. Is there a theoretical smallest size that e-cat X can be made. Could it work for example with 10 kW units or even smaller?

A: it could be scaled down to few Watts

If 2 is possible:

3. Would it still have the same operation life?

A: I suppose yes, but it has to be experianced

4. Would it scale down in size in proportion to the change in power

A: yes.

5. Could it be made much smaller for integration in small mobile or small distributed devices?

A: yes.

Best Regards

This takes the E-Cat X in an interesting direction — moving away from industrial heating that is the purpose of the first E-Cat plants. If the E-Cat X is able to produce light and/or electricity as Rossi has hinted at, then there would be many potential applications it could be useful for, but one would expect there would be a lot of testing and refinement that would have to be done before putting small E-Cats on the market in consumer devices, since it is still in its very early stages.

I do think that in Andrea Rossi’s mind the E-Cat X is the future of his invention, especially if it is scalable up and down. It could fit the bill for large heating units as well as small ones.

  • Stephen

    I like the idea that it can possibly be deployed in a distributed format:

    Perhaps it can be used to light and in winter thermally heat roads and rail lines and if electricity is produced to inductively power or recharge vehicles travelling along it.

    • Omega Z

      How about we crack anti-gravity & hover.
      Then we need no roads. Just direction posts.

  • Slightly Skeptic

    There should be nothing preventing Rossi from making very small and low power devices of this type. As long as an adequate amount of insulation is available then most of the thermal input drive can be captured and applied to the core material.

    Positive thermal feedback is going to be present just as with his large design provided the geometry is carefully constructed. Of course the electronics can be shrunken when the drive power is significantly reduced.

    The battery required to initiate the reaction is likely going to be the main drawback. If a method of thermally recharging that device is found then a multitude of applications are going to arise.

  • Alan DeAngelis
    • Fibber McGourlick

      Clever satire!

    • Brokeeper

      You should see the 1GW version.

    • Alan DeAngelis

      Yes, it’s a bit flippant but even if this brute force approach works as promised is it preferable to LENR?

      I keep thinking about this analogy (that I’ve referred to before).

      • Brokeeper

        Bravo. But nano scale is brilliant perfection.

  • Agaricus

    Off Topic: Admin, the ‘Always Open’ thread appears to be empty and is marked ‘Comments are closed’. I think there may be a glitch that needs sorting.

    • artefact

      I faced the same problem like an hour ago. Then it worked again and now it is gone again.

      • ecatworld

        Thanks for pointing this out. It’s fixed now. Some setting had been changed accidentally. I wondered if we had reached a limit on that thread, but apparently not.

      • Pekka Janhunen

        Yes, cooling would be harder. I don’t actually have any good ideas how to integrate significant cooling into clothing. A heat pump would be too bulky, I’m afraid. Hmm…

    • Pekka Janhunen

      A present-day smartphone uses only about 0.3 W electric on average, if one’s usage pattern in such that one empties and loads the battery once every day. (2000 mAh times 4 V divided by 24*3600 seconds=0.33 .) With conversion efficiency of 20%, that would imply only 1.6 W continuous 24/7 heat dissipation. Of course, the smartphone would also need a conventional battery for buffer storage, but one would never need to load it.

  • Omega Z

    It took about 20 seconds for this to soak in.
    Then I snorted my morning coffee.

  • _Jim

    So, we are one step closer to a Mr. Fusion Coffee Maker that ‘runs’ on ambient room light?