The Nature of Thermal Anomalies During Electrolysis of Light Water: The reversible hydrogen-neutron cycle ( B. A. Sidorov, and N. E. Nevessky)

The following post has been submitted by Alan Smith who provided an improved English translation of an article titled”The Nature of Thermal Anomalies During Electrolysis of Light Water (The reversible hydrogen-neutron cycle)”  written by researchers Sidorov B. A., and Nevessky N. E. which was originally published on the website of the  Laboratory of Experimental Physics here: http://tet.in.ua/index.php/en/

http://www.e-catworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Thoughts-on-electrolysis-from-the-lab-of-exp-phys..pdf

TALES-FROM-THE-LABORATORY-OF-EXPERIMENTAL-PHYSICS-Part-2
  • Zephir

    Thank You Alan once again for your tireless impressive work with translation of various LENR articles! I do really appreciate it!

    • Alan Smith

      Hi Zephir. Thank you for your kind words. I ‘re-translated’ these documents because I am developing a particular interest in Russian/Former USSR private and academic research into LENR. It seems that Easter Bloc scientists were big enough and brave enough to go where others were afraid to tread.

      • Zephir

        They’re brave the more, as the oil based mafia in Kremlin undoubtedly isn’t very happy from free energy movement.

        • Alan Smith

          @Karm. Thanks for that- if I do much more of this I had better invest in a good Russian dictionary.

        • Zephir, you could also imagine that oil based economic interests in Russia at some extent realize the threat aigainst the oil economy and that they could be keen on leveraging the LENR research in Russia in order not to be left behind, should commercial LENR based energy hit the market.

          • Roland

            Aside from some minor relief from building armaments for export at lower cost it’s difficult to conceive any net benefit to Russia from LENR that could offset the loss of their O&G exports.

            LENR would allow the populace to grow enough food in greenhouses to stave off starvation and heat their homes, as the the rest of their economy collapses, as there has been zero progress towards diversification, other than periodic posturing, during previous slumps in O&G revenues.

            Outside O&G, the arms biz, and organized crime no Russian economic sectors are internationally competitive; why would LENR change that?

  • Zephir

    Thank You Alan once again for your tireless impressive work with translation of various LENR articles! I do really appreciate it! This study is pushing the “small hydrogen” mechanism, which may be related to hydrino stuff of Randell Mills and which I leave without comment.

    I can only note, that the overunity was also observed with John Kanzius, who did the electrodeless electrolysis of light water (with sodium chloride addition for improved conductivity) – so that the possible LENR effects of electrode material could be excluded here.

    Before ten years American researcher John Kanzius announced, that the salty water generates lotta hydrogen under action of polarized radiowaves at 14 MHz. With respect to energy density of radiowaves (5.10E-8 eV) the splitting of water molecules requires ~ 1.3 eV, so it’s as improbable and “miraculous” from thermodynamic perspective as the cold fusion runing at few electronVolts.

    It indicates, both phenomena are actually driven with the similar underlying physical mechanism, similar to nanocavitation involving mutual collisions of water clusters, i,e, not individual molecules. During this electrolysis also the thermodynamically metastable mixture of hydrogen and hydrogen peroxide is formed, which indicates, the excess of energy gets greatly buffered – the hydrogen peroxide would otherwise decompose. This aspect is also similar with cold fusion, which doesn’t emanate energetic particles. The interesting thing is there apparently is no intended ignition- seems to auto-combust as soon as it gets in the resonance frequency field – i.e. the absorption of radiowaves makes the resulting hydrogen very reactive, probably nascent (with high amount of monoatomic form).

    • Alan Smith

      Hi Zephir. Thank you for your kind words. I ‘re-translated’ these documents because I am developing a particular interest in Russian/Former USSR private and academic research into LENR. It seems that Easter Bloc scientists were big enough and brave enough to go where others were afraid to tread.

      • Zephir

        They’re brave the more, as the oil based mafia in Kremlin undoubtedly isn’t very happy from free energy movement.

        • Zephir, you could also imagine that oil based economic interests in Russia at some extent realize the threat aigainst the oil economy and that they could be keen on leveraging the LENR research in Russia in order not to be left behind, should commercial LENR based energy hit the market.

          • Roland

            Aside from some minor relief from building armaments for export at lower cost it’s difficult to conceive any net benefit to Russia from LENR that could offset the loss of their O&G exports.

            LENR would allow the populace to grow enough food in greenhouses to stave off starvation and heat their homes, as the the rest of their economy collapses, as there has been zero progress towards diversification, other than periodic posturing, during previous slumps in O&G revenues.

            Outside O&G, the arms biz, and organized crime no Russian economic sectors are internationally competitive; why would LENR change that?

  • Pekka Janhunen

    “… the mass of the small hydrogen electron – because of its enormous orbital velocity … the sum of the mass of this relativistic electron and its accompanying proton practically coincides with the mass of a neutron.”

    This idea sounds wrong, because although it is true that the kinetic energy of a low orbiting particle is higher, negative energy due to electrostatic attraction between the electron and the proton is even higher in that case. For example in classical nonrelativistic Bohr model hydrogen atom, the orbiting electron’s negative potential energy is exactly two times larger in absolute value than its kinetic energy. If a hydrogen atom would have a lower energy state than the usually known ground state, the lower state atom would be lighter than normal hydrogen, thus making the mass gap between it and a free neutron larger, not smaller.

    • Zephir

      Actually the relativistic electrons are the general feature of LARGE atoms (they’re giving the yellow color to gold but not silver or oxidation properties to lead(IV) compounds – but not tin(IV)) – not these SMALL ones. From Kepler model of atom follows, the electrons would revolve the atom nuclei with the lower speed, the smaller is their distance from atom nuclei.

      One possible explanation of this apparent controversy may be, that the electrons, which are forced to move closer to atom nuclei than it would correspond the basic quantum level will get accelerated with density fluctuations of vacuum, thus violating the Kepler law. But the same effect will also prohibit their fall bellow this fundamental energy level and hydrino formation.

    • Andreas Moraitis

      One might expect an increase of the relativistic mass if the electron could occupy very low orbits. However, this is difficult to imagine on the basis of the classical model: The radius would have to be extremely small (< 0.0001 of the Bohr radius, I think) to bring the electron’s speed close enough to the speed of light. But there are alternative models which introduce more complex orbits, like those of Guglinski or Mills. More open questions, of course…

      • Andreas Moraitis

        The factor < 0.0001 is likely wrong since the non-relativistic model would not work under these conditions. Maybe somebody else can do it better.

  • Kazm

    In the article, near end of part 2, is encountered Russian word using English Alphabet: “nizkoteploprovodnoy”=low heat conducting. My background includes Russian with some cosmology-physics at University of Toronto, 1970.

    • Alan Smith

      @Karm. Thanks for that- if I do much more of this I had better invest in a good Russian dictionary.