Nick Oseyko, a Ukrainian reader of ECW and an active LENR researcher met with Andrew Hrischanovich, lead researcher at the Laboratory of Experimental Physics in Ukraine on February 4, 2016, and sent me this report of an interview he conducted.
A lot of attention has been brought recently to Andrew Hrischanovich’s LENR experiments, described in details at his site www.tet.in.ua , (English translation by Alan Smith here), as well at his Youtube channel. Due to his travel arrangements it was possible to meet him shortly in Kiev yesterday. Here is the story:
Andrew Hrischanovich, a middle aged man in dark coat meets me in the Mafia restaurant at Pechersk uphills. His handshake is strong and he speaks very openly with me, ignoring the fact that I am almost a stranger to him — we spoke over the phone just two or three times before the meeting.
We sit at a corner table. While looking through the menu, Andrew easy agrees with my idea of sharing his thoughts and experiences with the ECW audience. He asks me briefly about my background, but our conversation slips back into the LENR field very soon.
Thank you, Andrew, for your readiness to share your experiences. What brings you to Kiev tonight?
There is a innovations related conference in Kiev today. Besides the fact it could be interesting itself, some investors are going to attend.
Could you please tell what experiments you have been doing recently? What were the materials used? What were the results?
I can divide my activities into two main directions, let’s describe them as Rossi or say Rossi-Celani related replications, which were executed in Moscow, and my current research, which is not related at all to Rossi’s work.
From details in some of your videos I can conclude you have a nice lab in Moscow?
It is not mine. I have been working there for two and a half years. It was a well-funded project, dedicated to the search of new energy sources, including attempts of replications of Rossi works.
Are we speaking about E-Cat or Hot Cat?
I don’t think there is a big difference between them. In my opinion the tech behind both is mostly the same, only temperature modes are different.
You are saying this with great confidence. But it seems nobody knows what is going on inside E-Cat, as Rossi keeps his lips tight.
Of course I don’t know it for sure. But as you are also doing some experiments yourself, you would agree that quite a good understanding forms if you do dozens of tests.
Agree. So you think you know Rossi formula?
No, I cannot say so. But I think I know his secret catalyser now. I cannot name it, but my tests in nearest weeks will prove or disprove it.
Is this in your lab in Zaporozhie?
Yes. As the scope of Moscow project is over, and as it was very difficult to be detached from the family, and as commuting between Russia and Ukraine became more and more challenging recently, I took a decision to continue my tests at home, in my own lab in Zaporozhie.
Good to know. You have mentioned your family. Do you have kids?
Yes, I do. I have three kids.
Congratulations, that’s great. Coming back to your Rossi replications, what were the results? Was there the excess heat? If yes, what were the COP?
Well, almost all my tests were positive, with COP between 1,11 and 1,40. So the Rossi effect is real, not possible to think it is fake any more.
And what materials were used for the reactor and as fuel?
– There were several different designs, as shown in my videos. Materials were different too.
Let’s speak about the boiler you presented in your recent video. There was a great interest and many comments about it at LENR related sites.
If you mean the boiler apparatus, it was not pure Rossi approach. I would name it Rossi-Celani mix, as the Ni wire was used instead of Ni powder.
I see. What about hydrogen source? Was it usual lithium aluminium hydrid, as described in Rossi recent patent?
No, titanium hydrid was used instead. You know, it is easy to get it in Zaporozhie. Of course it is not available in each around-the-corner shop, but an interested person always can find it as there is a huge Titanium plant in Zaporozhie.
And what about design? Why there were three reactors in the boiler and not one?
It is easy, as the the boiler has three phase electric input. Each reactor is connected to its corresponding phase.
And how is each reactor is made?
Well, the fuel core is inside a ceramic pipe. The heater wire is wound around the ceramic pipe. And there is an outer quartz glass pipe to isolate the reactor from the water being heated.
Excellent, thanks a lot for the details. Do you have your own theory what is going inside the reactor?
No. You know, I am an experimentalist, not a theorist. If you have a working device which is stable and easy to replicate, the theory will follow. There are lot of people out there with some explanation of Rossi effect, all explanations are different. Even here in Ukraine there are some serious scientists who are working in the LENR field.
Yes, I think their names are well known to world LENR society. As you time is ending, could you say what inspires you in your research?
You may be surprised, but it is the old and well-known works of early 20th century.
Like Rutherford’s ones. Yes, his model of atom was simple, but some of his insights are very much related to LENR. More of it, I do think that nuclear physics had an unlucky fork around 1937 when all attention of people at power and all funding was aligned to creation of the bomb. If mankind was a bit more lucky, the Rossi effect could well be found about 50 years early than Fleischman and Pons did their famous press-conference.
Very interesting. I think our time is up. Thank you very much for your answers.
You are welcome.
We are already outside the restaurant. I give Andrew a short ride down Staronavodnitskaya street and we shake hands and say goodbye near the Vodafone building. I wish him good luck. While driving home I am thinking about the disruption the mankind is entering. In 10 or 20 years this will be quite a new planet.