More Details About the 1MW Plant Setup

After reading Mats Lewan’s very interesting article published on his An Impossible Invention website yesterday I followed up with Andrea Rossi on the Journal of Nuclear Physics yesterday with some more questions. Here are my questions and Rossi’s responses.
3- Darden and his investors met the Customer in the meeting rom of the offices, that is separated from the production area

Dear Andrea
I read with great interest the article published by Mats Lewan regarding your visit to Sweden and your report of some of the details of the 1 year E-Cat test. I wonder if you could clarify a couple of points:

1. From what I have read the customer’s work took place inside a sealed enclosure, maybe a shipping container also?

1- it took place inside a plant about 20 meters long, 3 meters high, 3 meters wide, obviously closed

2. Was the customer’s production facility positioned next to the plant in the same building?

2- it was in a separate area of the same building

3. Mats wrote that “IH never had access to the customer’s area”, however you mentioned yesterday that Tom Darden and his investors spoke with the customer in his factory. Can you explain what Mats meant?

3- Darden and his investors met the Customer in the meeting rom of the offices, that is separated from the production area

4. Did you buy the building you looked at in Sweden for your factory?

4- we are in the process to find an agreement

5. Mats said the 100 W QuarkX is the size of a pen — does each QuarkX include its own control system built in, or is that separate?

5- the control system is separate

This all helps give me a clearer picture of what the setup in the building was. It seems like the output of the 1MW plant was piped directly into the customer’s enclosed plant which was within the same warehouse space. At one point I was thinking that the customer’s plant was in the next door building.

It does sound like the industrial process that JM Products was doing was quite secretive, since even Tom Darden was apparently not permitted to be inside the production facility. The only information we have been given of what was inside the plant was when Mats Lewan quoted a witness as looking inside the unit when the door was open and saw what he thought was some kind of production taking place.

According to Mats’ article yesterday, the water used in the process was recycled — which I assume would mean that the steam the heat piped into the customer’s unit condensed in the production process and was then sent back into the E-Cat Plant where it was heated again. In a post on the JONP to Oystein Lande, Rossi goes into some more detail explaining how the heat produced by the 1MW plant dissipated:

Andrea Rossi
May 17, 2016 at 7:32 AM
Oystein Lande:
1. the container itself was not insulated, because this would have been useless, since all the hot bodies inside the container were thermally insulated
2. The doors were open during the operation and there was a ventilation system that sent the warm air through the exhaust windows of the roof of the factory
Besides: you correctly write that if the 1% of the heat produced was lost through the insulation, 10 thermal kW were emitted.
As you well know, just to give an example that explains which amount of energy we are talking of and as any household knows, 10 kW of power are barely enough to maintain during a mild winter a temperature of 25 °C in a two rooms apartment with close windows.
A 2 rooms apartment has a volume of about 200 cubic meters.
We were in a factory with windows in the roof always open; by the way, as you know, warm air goes naturally toward the top being lighter than air colder than it; the volume of the factory is 6 000 cubic meters which means about 30 times the volume of a two rooms apartment.
Now: if 10 kW of power are able to hold a 2 rooms apartment of 200 cubic meters at 22°C with closed windows, how much are able the same to heat a factory of 6 000 cubic meters with open windows on the roof and a ventilation system to exhaust it ? Obviously the temperature was warmer inside the reactors container, in fact I told you that there were about 40 °C, but, due to the fact that the doors of the container were open and that also inside the container there was a ventilation system, the internal temperature of the reactors container never is gone above the 40 °C.
Warm Regards,
A.R.

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