Possible New Particle Discovery Could Bring Down Standard Model (Scientific American)

An article in Scientific American reports that there are rumors flying that news of a discovery of a new particle maybe about to break, which could bringing down the standard model of particle physics. The article, published on June 13 by Michele Redi, is titled: “Is Particle Physics About to Crack Wide Open?” and can be read here:

At CERN’s Large Hadron Collider in Geneva Switzerland, article detectors called CMS and ATLAS have picked up a ‘bump’ in the experimental curve, indicating unusual activity and the presence of a previously unknown particle six times bigger than the Higgs Boson.

From the article:

“This is by far the most exciting thing that has happened in particle physics over the last three decades. If this hint of new physics is confirmed—something that could happen within just a few weeks, or possibly even within days—it is difficult to state the importance of such a discovery. It would be bigger than the detection of the Higgs boson, which was just confirmation of what was already known.

“If the bump is real, we are about to start writing a whole new chapter in the history of fundamental physics. It is impossible to imagine where this could lead.”

  • BillH

    This could lead to calls for extra funding for an even bigger particle accelerator, hmmm, not so impossible to predict after all, hehe

    • Alan DeAngelis

      Ah yes, the search for the Big Hairy Deal (BHD) particle.

    • Dave Lawton

      Those were the days,taken for free lunches down the pub by photomultiplier and
      scintillator salesmen.

  • Axil Axil
  • Alan DeAngelis

    So, the “Please, May I have a cup of tea?” people found a
    new particle but they missed LENR.

    • cashmemorz

      My feeling about this episode is that similar to success breeds further success. In the case of big physics its the “big” is all that is required to get noticed for whatever reason. Then as soon as something of any significance is announced from that quarter then it gets anything it wants, more funding, publicity. LENR is small by any comparison so it gets little of anything Maybe the DOE announcement for consideration to be made for new possible useful tech such as LENR and the report about LENR the security division want this fall just might move LENR up a notch.

      • Zephir

        /* similar to success breeds further success */

        Of course, now the physicists ignore cold fusion as a single man, but from the same reason they will follow the crowd, once it will become a new mainstream. Well, and a new findings will be ignored instead: I don’t think, the people will ever learn from their past.

    • psi2u2

      Very witty.

    • Zephir

      We are living in occupational driven society. These people will never miss the opportunity to extend their occupation and to avoid findings, which could threat / doubt this occupation. After all, from the same reason the medieval priests ignored the Copernicus and Galielo. The dress code changes, but the people and their way of thinking remains.

  • Rene

    They have a bit of work ahead to get to the gold standard of 5σ. Presently the researchers are at 1.5-2σ

  • Gerard McEk

    Maybe before installing a ten times more powerful accelerator, they first revisit the their method. I question the method they use to determine the sub atomic structure: The usage of highly excellerated particles having huge energies. Can’t they cause the formation of unknown particles, which wouldn’t normally exist in the universe?
    I would very much welcome a thorough investigation of Stoyan Sarg’s theory how matter really looks like.

    • Zephir

      In particular, this bump occurs at the 20 MeV scale, which is something many orders bellow the LHC energies currently achieved. No powerful accelerator will be required for its replication – on the contrary: the effect has been probably overlooked for years just because its energy is so low.

  • Zephir

    You people of developing countries have big potential, but I don’t see any way, how the assumption that all elementary particles are made up of two another ones could explain the bump observed. Try to review the logic used in your reasoning first.

    • psi2u2

      I think you could have said that without the stereotyping overgeneralization about millions of people.

      • Zephir

        I could, but I didn’t want to. You could avoid unnecessary call for political correctness instead. Some trivia are still true, despite they apply to millions of people at the same moment.

        • psi2u2

          Any sentence that begins ‘you people’ is simply an expression of prejudice.

    • cashmemorz

      Similar to “Polish” notation in set theory to cover intuitively opposite method of indicating negation of parts of set, and “Mayan” Language having pertinent logic regarding aspects of group theory that led understanding nuclear process via Feynman diagrams. If the wrong approach is taken, via incomplete research or immature assumptions, then beautiful looking proposed theories can be developed without a real basis towards being robust, re Predictability via said theories.

  • Zephir

    Here I already explained, that this finding could correspond the Cassimir force, just applying to distance scale of atom nuclei instead of atoms. Such a finding could be therefore derived from Standard Model as an manifestation of Yukawa force, which is known force already, it’s just overlooked.


  • LCD

    Is it really at 20Mev around where the lithium proton bombardment experiment claims to also see a new particle?