Brilliant Light Power Announces October 26th Industry Day, CEO Mills Predicts Power Industry Disruption in 2017

Brilliant Light Power continues to promote its technology, and has recently announced that it will hold a Fall Industry Day on October 26th at its facility in Cranbury, New Jersey where, according to the announcement, there will be “Invitational Public Presentation by Noted Speakers from Telecomm, Climate Change, Academic, and Market Strategy Fields with SunCell® Demonstration”

In connection with this, the Next Big Future website has published an interview with BLP’s CEO Randell Mills (

In this interview, Randell Mills is bold enough to claim that BLP will ‘disrupt the entire power industry in 2017’ with the introduction of the SunCell. Mills said an off-grid system could be created by combining a SunCell, which creates light, with a PV (photovoltaic) converter to produce electricity. Mills says that the setup requires a ‘small parasitic load’.

The big question that many people are asking is what the COP (ratio of energy in to energy out) is. Here’s an excerpt from the Next Big Future interview:

NBF Question – I am interested to know what I would see in a live demonstration that would prove that 65-150 times input power for the output power is being produced.

Randall Mills Answer – We shown these types of power gains as part of series of demonstrations on June 28th. The video is publicly available:

Moreover, we have five validation reports of power gain results of this magnitude at a remarkable power level of about 1 MW in less than a liter volume. These reports could be made available to you with some agreement on usage and with our redaction of the identify of the trace oxide chemical used

If this all pans out as Mills predicts, this would indeed be a significant development for energy production. While BLP may not technically fall into the LENR category (Mills is emphatic that it is not), this is certainly something we’ll be keeping an eye on here at ECW.

  • artefact

    Great. Will we see Edison against Tessla again ? 🙂

  • theBuckWheat

    When any of these LENR-related technologies reaches commercial viability, their implications are YUGE.

    A number of Arab countries only can fund their food imports and their internal socialistic welfare state through sales of oil. This is the case for Libya and certain the Kingdom of Saud.

    It will take decades for LENR-related energy sources to be rolled out into general use and oil will not be displaced entirely. But if oil is displaced even by 25%, we could see a collapse and revolution of these governments. But a revolution to what end? Almost certainly the revolution would have a connection to radical Islam if funded by Iran or maybe even ISIS. So, we could end up with a wonderful, history-making clean energy technology on the one hand, and a stone-age jihadist Caliphate that was hell-bent on forcing everyone within the range of its missiles to convert, submit or die resisting.

    • Zephir

      The energetic revolution may actually increase demand for raw sources including oil, not decrease. Lotta oil is still used in plastic industry.

    • Gittyup

      I do agree it would cause revolutions and mass immigration movements. Another huge issue the the amount of deflation free energy would cause. Just think how much cheaper things would be if the energy cost was removed from the supply chain. Prices of items/services could 50-75% cheaper or more depending on the energy costs of a particular item/service. With the huge amount of fixed debt in the industrialized nations it would cause massive debt defaults as the revenue/profit wouldn’t be enough to service the debt.

      At first companies would have huge profit margins but competition will erode profits and pushe prices down. New entries into the market that don’t have debt are going to crush established debt filled companies even though they probably aren’t as efficient.

    • HS61AF91

      try thinking about the exchange of information and awareness that the internet age brings and interject that into the new energy/jihadist Caliphate scenario. I believe 99.9 % of the people, made aware of freely available cheap energy and the life made possible from such, will simply tell the pushers of jihad to take their Caliphate, and Shove It!

  • Jas

    1MW from a litre sounds impressive but what does he actually mean?
    For instance how long would the hydrinos last before the fuel needs to be replenished?

    • tlp

      The fuel is just ordinary hydrogen, extracted from water, and it is injected constantly, and lasts forever. Hydrogen converts to hydrinos, and those are vented away. Hydrinos are harmless waste product, over 90 % of all matter is already hydrinos (dark matter).

      • Jas

        I’d be interested to know how long it takes to burn through the hydrogen to create 1MW. Especially with water being scarce in some areas of the world. They could desalinate though and that might be the way to go.

        • tlp

          There is enough water in the air humidity, even in Sahara. Very tiny amount of water is needed.

      • David Albert

        I agree that his work and workers are not like a scammer’s. If you review the videos on their website the progression from single shots analyzed in a bomb callorimeter to the one posted recently with 2 minuets of constant smoothly controlled brilliant reaction. Some of the same crew that was in the first video are still with them. I have recently read the book by Brett Holverstott about him and the development of his theory and the sun cell. It reveals a very smart dedicated person and reasonable progress from hard work. The book is very believable because Mr. Halverstott used to work for Mills and was in on the science and calculations that went into the theory. My wife who has a background in biological chemistry was struck the images of the molecules that come from Mills’ binding force calculations and their 5 pointed symmetry she sees in many aspects of living organisms from flowers to fruits.

  • US_Citizen71

    Are they planning a self powered looped test?

    • tlp

      As soon as those CPV panels are ready. Those need to be manufactured and assembled in ball shape around the tungsten ball (bottom half of that is visible in the latest video).

      • Fyodor

        I will tell you what will be shown at the demonstration day so that you don’t have to wait a month.

        1. There will be a power point with graphical drawings of how nonexistent devices are supposed to work.

        2. There will be references to how they have “engineering designs” or “engineered systems” that are intended to convey the impression that they are close to completion when they really just have sketches.

        3. There will be a lot of discussion and many slides about how profitable it would be to have an infinite energy device and all the things you could use it for (This is true but irrelevant).

        4. There will be something that sparks or makes lights for 30 seconds. It will be shared on youtube.

        5. There will be no disclosure of energy balance.

        6. There will be another prediction of a high power industrial product which is only six months away despite the fact that they haven’t even demonstrated a working self sustaining prototype in the four years since this technology was disclosed.

        • Epi

          You are right. And the jan 17 presentation will be the same. The interesting presentation will be in june 17. The last critical component of the system is the concentrator cell. I hope they are working close with the manufacturer of these cells to establish optimal working conditions. Placing a pv cell in front of a ultra hot bright white radiating metal dome seems pretty challenging. But that is their problem.

          In the meantime I am asking someone to look into the question of how Mills achieved to calculate the binding energies and structure of a vast amount of molecules with analytic equations.

        • Hhiram

          Unfortunately I have to agree. Mills’ entire operation just screams scam to me. I would *love* to be wrong about it, but I get a much worse impression from him than from Rossi. And I certainly don’t have 100% confidence in Rossi either.

          The problem with the sun cell is that we haven’t yet seen anything that is fundamentally different that what you would see if you just produced an electrical arc. At least with Rossi we now have a great deal of insights into how the 1MW E-Cat powerplant was designed, thanks to reverse-engineering efforts by Engineer48 and MFMP. And Rossi’s designs really do seem to suggest he has a real heat source. But Mills? There just isn’t enough of the design details visible for anyone to analyze, and so it just looks like a staged circus act.

          Again, I hope I’m wrong. But my confidence in Mills is under 5%.

          • Jas

            I have to disagree with you both. If you have been watching all the videos they have produced over the last few years and you can clearly see they have made progress. Saying it looks like an electrical arc is like saying a dogbone is just a glorified bar heater.

    • MorganMck

      No. If you read the preliminary Q&A, it is Mills is clear that all their products will require mains power.

      • tlp

        No, you have misunderstood badly that. SunCell does not need mains power at all, how could it work in all those vehicles you can find in their business plan if it needs mains power?

        • Jas

          They would use the charge in the car battery to power the Suncell most likely.

          • tlp

            Of course initial startup needs a battery like in a normal ICE car, but there is seldom need to stop SunCell once started, it can run all the time.

          • Michael W Wolf

            Capacitors to start the reaction, then power from the CPV”s to loop some back to keep the reaction going and stable. I am pretty sure that is the direction BLP is headed.

        • Michael W Wolf

          No man. The integration with CPV’s to take it off the grid is set for 2017.

          • tlp

            SunCell is not SunCell without solar panels.

  • LuFong

    True or not, this might motivate others to come to the market earlier. If MFMP and/or me356 demonstrate LENR this all could explode (figuratively) into the public’s attention. I’m not holding my breath.

  • US_Citizen71

    He needs UV photo-voltaic cells that are higher efficiency than the 5-7% ones that have been demonstrated by others to date. With the majority of his power supposedly in the UV ban below 400nm it is curious that you don’t see Mills or his assistants wearing more protection as UV as strong as he claims would cause near instant sun burns.

    • tlp

      UV is converted to visible light using tungsten globe. All radiation, including UV, is heating tungsten to 3000K, and it works like a huge halogen light, There is, or will be halogen gas between that globe and CPV panels. Those panels are about 40% efficient.
      And those tests are run inside a glove box with heavy UV protection (and halogen gas inside).

      • US_Citizen71

        The tungsten globe is a good idea for safety but will cost some efficiency. The UV is not currently being changed to visible by a tungsten globe. Currently his experiments/demonstrations happen in a clear box with the full reaction in view. Granted certain types of glass absorb UV but that would mean that the glass is absorbing several kilowatts of power That absorption should heat the glass greatly, otherwise kilowatts of UV light are bathing those in the room.

        • tlp

          One video showed closed cell, not outside but a peek inside from a tiny window. Developement is better to do openly in a glove box to better see what is going on to tune the process. In the latest video the bottom half of the tungsten globe is visible. The reaction has become much smoother, so the tuning has been succesfull.
          The glove box would become very hot, but they must be cooling it heavily for these longer duration tests.

          • Zephir

            /* The glove box would become very hot, but they must be cooling it heavily for these longer duration tests.*/

            You just explained, how the energy production could be measured without any UV photo-voltaic cells

          • tlp

            Yes, and they have already many times measured the energy production.

        • Zephir

          Why to convert the UV for some visible light, if you just need the heat for vapor generation? It’s conversion to electricity works with high efficiency (over 90% if you use Stirling motor, over 60% with dry steam turbine)

          • tlp

            There is no 90% Stirling motor. Solar cells are better, more compact and no moving parts. Maintenance free.

          • Zephir

            Solar cells may be more practical, but their efficiency is lower than the Stirling

          • tlp

            So stirling efficiency is 34% and very difficult to make better. And is bulky and have many moving parts.
            Solar cells are developing all the time, now they have 40% efficiency, soon more.

          • LilyLover

            I have been looking forward to this for a long time.
            Since he didn’t try to befool me in his amazing books, I believe in Dr. Mills’ theory, however incomplete they may be.
            I am fairly confidant that what Dr. Rossi did to oil-trend, will be further emphasized by Mills. Rossi was a signal for big-money divestment, now Mills will hit the panic button for the masses. Between the two, the race will begin, energy will be trivialized, and humanity “should” elevate from present scarcity-paradigm.
            Best of luck.

    • Zephir

      /* He needs UV photo-voltaic cells that are higher efficiency than the 5-7% ones that have been demonstrated by others to date */

      This is nonsense, at these energy density demonstrated the water cooled mantle of reactor would run as efficiently. IMO Mills just evades the direct calorimetric measurement of the COP, because it would cool down all his investors.

  • Andrew

    Out of popcorn… /pretzels

  • Alan DeAngelis

    Crazy thought. Under these conditions, could oxygen-18 water absorb its protons to become neon-20 in an excited state that fissions into oxygen-16 and helium-4.

    2 H(1) + O(18) > Ne(20)* > O(16) + He(4) 16.1 MeV

    Maybe they could run their reaction using commercially available oxygen-18 water.

    • Alan DeAngelis


      Or something more straight forward.

      H(1) + O(18) > He(4) + N(15) 3.98 MeV

      H(1) + O(17) > He(4) + N(14) 1.19 MeV

      • Gerard McEk

        Similar idea: During a thunderstorm the following reaction may occur:
        O(16) + N(15) > P(31)
        This would explain the global spread of small quantities of Phosphor in the upper ground layers.
        At the same time your reactions may take place, which I think are also likely during a lightning strike.

  • SG

    Not optimistic at all. How many times has BLP been on the verge? And they love to tout power, which is meaningless, instead of energy balance. And it looks like it would need very routine maintenance. While I follow their developments, their track record is not great. Then again, Rossi’s isn’t great either. Negative mood today I guess.

    • bachcole

      I know how you feel.

      Rossi is not filling me with excitement because he has made too many Earth shaking announcements and too few confirmations. But what has been confirmed (to my satisfaction) is still lightyears ahead of Mills, whose confirmations are so limp as to be in practice non-existent. I will believe Mills when we get an independent third-party confirmation of high COP. Otherwise, his is nothing more than scientific wanking.

  • Zephir

    /* Mills and his crew definitly believe in what they are doing. */

    This is just what bothers me too. If the hydrino is most stable form of matter, why most of matter (at least hydrogen one) is not already formed with hydrinos? If the hydrino is the most stable form of hydrogen and Mills already prepared the gram samples of hydrides, it shouldn’t be a problem to isolate the hydrino in its pure form or at least detect thermogravitationaly or mass spectroscopy. The contemporary nuclear chemistry has a tools for exact characterization of microgram amounts (of very unstable compounds in addition) already.

    One thing is to have an expensive & secret reactor producing energy, which must be replicated first without breaching the IP – or to have a publicly available compound, which can be immediately analyzed in thousands of labs around the whole world. But it did never happen.

    Regarding Mills experiments, I still missing the elementary calorimetry in his demos.

    • tlp

      Most of matter is hydrinos = dark matter, more than 90%.
      Hydrinos has been detected with all those methods you mentioned, just read those scientific papers.

      • Zephir

        Mills claims various hydrino compounds, but these samples were never tested in the independent lab. Despite that it would provide the best evidence of hydrino model without breaching of any Mills know-how for their preparation.

        • tlp

          You should read the Holverstott book, at least around this quote:
          “In a monumental 26–page paper published in 2000, Mills presented the analysis of dozens of new hydrino hydride compounds and clusters, using TOF–SIMS, XPS, XRD, FTIR, NMR, and Raman spectroscopy (Mills 2000).”

          • Zephir

            This is just what I’m talking about – these compounds should be confirmed in another independent lab – not just with Mills.

          • tlp

            Why would some independent lab work for that. Who pays?
            Mills has payed, but then it is not independent any more.

  • bachcole

    I don’t give a fig which category BLP fits into just so long as it gets a high COP and it is otherwise harmless to children and other living things.

    Somehow Mills’ confirmations don’t fill me with confidence.

    But we will see what we will see. I look forward to progress.

  • Zephir

    Nope, my official stance about Mills is here