Industrial Heat to Organize ICCF21 in Raleigh, NC

Thanks to Sam for pointing out this comment on Peter Gluck’s Ego Out website here:

http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com/2016/10/oct-06-201q6-lenr-news-info-and-short.html

NEWS FROM ICCF-

At the gala dinner at Sendai it was announced that the next ICCF21 will take place in June 2018 at Raleigh (North Caroline) organized by Industrial Heat. In May 2017 it will be organized a workshop at Sienna in Italy.

Having Industrial heat organizing the conference certainly indicates that despite their conflicts with, and reservations about Andrea Rossi and the E-Cat, they are positive about the field of LENR and committed to operating in the field for quite some time to come.

I think we can safely guess that Rossi will not be attending, but then he never does go these meetings. If the E-Cat hits the market before the conference takes place then I would expect the flavor of the meeting would be quite different than ICCF meetings have been to date, and it would put IH in an interesting position. It would be hard to deny the reality of the E-Cat if it is obviously working in a commercial environment. On the other hand, if the E-Cat has still not emerged by then, Industrial Heat could be seen as a company to spearhead continued efforts in LENR.

We’ll have to see how things stand 20 months from now.

  • 2018 or 2017??

    • roseland67

      Barry,
      I think 2018 in Raleigh,
      2017 is workshops only in Sienna, Italy

  • 2018 or 2017??

    • roseland67

      Barry,
      I think 2018 in Raleigh,
      2017 is workshops only in Sienna, Italy

      • Gi Lu

        Siena (Toscana, Italia), not Sienna

  • Freethinker

    Then to reiterate, as I am not really impressed by the decision made by ICCF:

    Why should IH host ICCF21?
    It will lend IH undeserved academic credibility, but will do the contrary to ICCF.

    • Gerard McEk

      Indeed, it is strategically a good move of IH, and the question is how ICCF will come out. In this time till june ’18 a lot can happen and I have to see what happens if Rossi wins the court case.

      • roseland67

        Gerard,

        Maybe they will use this in court.
        “Look judge, we’re hosting ICCF”

        • Gerard McEk

          Exactly it may give them the aura of good-willingness towards LENR. It looks like: ‘Look here, we do everything to push LENR/CF forward, but this evil fraud cannot be trusted’.
          IH’s aims to monopolize LENR, but one (important) frog has jumped out of their bucket and must be neutralized.

          • MasterBlaster7

            I don’t know how IH would neutralize Rossi. Even IF IH were to win the whole thing….Rossi still has rights to the markets in Europe….and his QuarkX does not fall within the domain of what IH can control through their involvement with Rossi patents. I remain optimistic despite the law suit.

          • Gerard McEk

            Exactly. I think IH was unable to fit AR completely in their monopoly trap and had to allow AR serving the EU and some other markets. They must have thought that they would be able to push AR into their monopoly with their common factory. But AR invented an even better LENR process (E-cat X/QuarkX), that was not part of their deal and that will make their know-how completely useless. Now they see their monopoly endangered and they hope they can stop AR by bankrupting him.

    • roseland67

      Free,

      Or maybe deserved credibility,
      Time will tell

  • Freethinker

    Then to reiterate, as I am not really impressed by the decision made by ICCF:

    Why should IH host ICCF21?
    It will lend IH undeserved academic credibility, but will do the contrary to ICCF.

    • Gerard McEk

      Indeed, it is strategically a good move of IH, and the question is how ICCF will come out. In this time till june ’18 a lot can happen and I have to see what happens if Rossi wins the court case.

      • roseland67

        Gerard,

        Maybe they will use this in court.
        “Look judge, we’re hosting ICCF”

        • Gerard McEk

          Exactly it may give them the aura of good-willingness towards LENR. It looks like: ‘Look here, we do everything to push LENR/CF forward, but this evil fraud cannot be trusted’.
          IH’s aims to monopolize LENR, but one (important) frog has jumped out of their bucket and must be neutralized.

          • MasterBlaster7

            I don’t know how IH would neutralize Rossi. Even IF IH were to win the whole thing….Rossi still has rights to the markets in Europe….and his QuarkX does not fall within the domain of what IH can control through their involvement with Rossi patents. I remain optimistic despite the law suit.

          • Gerard McEk

            Exactly. I think IH was unable to fit AR completely in their monopoly trap and had to allow AR serving the EU and some other markets. They must have thought that they would be able to push AR into their monopoly with their common factory. But AR invented an even better LENR process (E-cat X/QuarkX), that was not part of their deal and that will make their know-how completely useless. Now they see their monopoly endangered and they hope they can stop AR by bankrupting him.

    • roseland67

      Free,

      Or maybe deserved credibility,
      Time will tell

  • Bernie Koppenhofer

    Like asking a Fox to organize a chicken convention.

    • roseland67

      20 months?
      Once again, I’ll take the “over”

      • Bernie Koppenhofer

        What?

    • MasterBlaster7

      You said a mouth full Bernie.

  • Bernie Koppenhofer

    Like asking a Fox to organize a chicken convention.

    • roseland67

      20 months?
      Once again, I’ll take the “over”

      • Bernie Koppenhofer

        What?

    • MasterBlaster7

      You said a mouth full Bernie.

  • Sam

    IH who never ever shares any (relevant) information unless there is a court order now wants to arrange the ICCF. As if they never had before…..

    • Omega Z

      I wonder who Industrial Heat is actually fronting for?

      • cashmemorz

        Since Industrial Heat is an offshoot of Cherokee Investment Partners, LLC, then the operations of those two are about investments in the green industry. Specifically, remediation of brown fields and similar activity. It starts with investments by others so Cherokee basically uses other peoples money to do the work in the green sector. This can be interpreted as or be in fact, if one is inclined to do so, to influence Cherokee to due diligence of the highest order to make as completely sure as is possible that the money invested is going into a sure thing. This can be the front, as you say, for what and why IH is doing what they are doing. Namely due diligence by way of organizing the ICCF 21. This can give IH a front row seat and more in public relations cum advertising of their efforts in the green sector. This then becomes a part of their due diligence of the highest order, Similar to the court case with Andrea Rossi. The data coming out of the legal action will be used to either uphold or demolish Ross’s claims about the E-Cat. Although IH was not the one to instigate the court case, they certainly were the ones to force Rossi’s hand towards the court case by not paying him the $89million due upon the apparently successful one year real world test of the E-CAT. As I have pointed, numerous times, this aspect of why IH is acting as they are, is for the main purpose of their business, that of investments via other peoples money, where due diligence is demanded by the investors.

        • Omega Z

          If you study the Cherokee connections, you will find a who’s who of the energy industry from the companies who support them with hardware such as Seimens, GE to the major distributors. I find it highly probable that Darden is just the front man for these industries and not the power.

          As to the Cherokee brown field investors, I doubt many if any of them are involved. They do not fit the profile for this type of investment..

        • cashmemorz

          Edit: On the other hand IH is using ICCF for a close up look of LENR to get their hands on some of the data contained in submitted papers, exhibits, presentations to allow IH first dibs in procuring the more promising research, developments for their own investment and/or profit.

          This would also fall under due diligence of a more proactive type.

      • Hgtyu

        The army

  • ggooggllee anmeldezwang

    So we can come come to the conclusion, that Th. Darden doesn’t expect LENR reactors commercialisation within the next 2 years. Neither from Rossi nor from Godes, Mills etc.!

  • sam
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  • Omega Z

    If you study the Cherokee connections, you will find a who’s who of the energy industry from the companies who support them with hardware such as Seimens, GE to the major distributors. I find it highly probable that Darden is just the front man for these industries and not the power.

    As to the Cherokee brown field investors, I doubt many if any of them are involved. They do not fit the profile for this type of investment..

  • cashmemorz

    Edit: On the other hand IH is using ICCF for a close up look of LENR to get their hands on some of the data contained in submitted papers, exhibits, presentations to allow IH first dibs in procuring the more promising research, developments for their own investment and/or profit.

    This would also fall under due diligence of a more proactive type.