Hope for an E-Cat/QuarkX Presentation

There are continued signs coming from Andrea Rossi regarding an event that he has been referring to as the presentation of the QuarkX. In recent comments on the Journal of Nuclear Physics he is talking about some kind of meeting that will be made public in which the QuarkX will be demonstrated.

This would be pretty unusual for Rossi, who prefers to work in secrecy at his as-yet unidentified lab, with his as-yet unidentified team and partner.

But now he is talking about a meeting that would be used to demonstrate the QuarkX to invited guests, and also the wider public (although he says the means by which this would happen is yet to be determined), and gives the impression that he thinks he has made enough progress to move the QuarkX into the commercial realm in industrial plants. He says he really believes that 2017 will be the year for the appearance of industrial plants.

Some comments and Q&As from the JONP:

Frank Acland
December 11, 2016 at 5:50 PM
Dear Andrea,

1. Do you have plans to present the COP of the QuarkX at your public presentation? < 2. Will the general public have the ability to see this presentation, and if so, how? AR: yes, to be defined
3. Will special guests be invited to this presentation? AR: yes.

Andrea Rossi
December 11, 2016 at 11:34 AM
Dr Irina and Vitaly Uzikov:
Thank you for your continued and very important attention. You will be surely invited to the presentation.
Warm Regards,

The last time he opened his doors to an invited audience was back in 2011 in Bologna when the first 1MW plant was tested by Italian engineer Domenico Fioravanti. At that event, it turned out the the guests were only given a short amount of access as there were some safety restrictions put in place. It turned out that the plant only ran at half power, and while the test was accepted by Fioravanti, there was very little detail published regarding the test.

I think most people following the story have been hoping for a time when the E-Cat can be demonstrated openly, in the light of day, instead of being shrouded in secrecy. I have learned over the year to temper my expectations when it comes to E-Cat development, but think it’s possible that we may be turning a corner here. Of course we can’t be sure since there are so few details; there’s no date (Rossi has mentioned February 2017), no venue, and I don’t know of anyone who’s been sent an official invitation. But there are signs that something might be happening that could change the profile of the E-Cat in an important way.

  • bfast

    Bring it on! Frank, your relationship with Rossi has been so good over the years, I really hope you are invited. If you get the invite, but need funds to get there, I’m sure that your followers would put up. We would really love your first-hand perspective on the Quark-X.

    • Gerard McEk

      Maybe we should ask Andrea if he is willing to invite Frank as an official representative of his followers?
      Are you willing to do that Frank?

      • Frank Acland

        If invited, I will make every effort to get there. Until I get an official invitation I will not get too excited, however. This story has had too many unexpected twists and turns …

        • Alain Samoun

          In case of a presentation of QuarkX I hope that you will be there for us,especially for all the information that you shared about the work of Rossi. We will pay for your travel!

        • sam

          Rossi seems excited and that is good.

        • sam

          Svein Henrik
          December 14, 2016 at 4:38 AM
          Dear Andrea
          I am happy that your measurements are proven correct. This was no surprise when measuring a QuarkX must be 1 million times easier for anybody than inventing it.
          Whether the QuarkX provides 15 or 25 watts, or it has a cop of 20 or 60 is not important now.
          It will be important that day you have a product in competition with others. Then the best product will win.
          A stability so solid that it is possible to take the risk by selling it, is now essential. Only the investors are able to take this decision.
          What are now your specific main concern before a production may be initiated?

          Andrea Rossi
          December 14, 2016 at 11:17 AM
          Svein Henrik:
          My main concern is the ightmare of a massive distributed products that have shortcomings.
          It will pass.
          Warm Regards

          Gerard McEk
          December 14, 2016 at 6:15 AM
          Dear Andrea,
          The end of the year is now approaching, another year year of hard working and a year that perhaps not brought what you expected. In your New Years Wish last year you gave us your vision of what the E-cat X would give us: Light, Heat and Electricity. Now you have made a lot of progress, do you still support that vision, or has it slightly changed?
          Can we expect a new vision for 2017 at the end of this year?
          Many followers hope with you that the design of the QuarkX’s in the 5 Sigma tests will be the One that will conquer the world next year. Avanti, Avanti and good luck!
          Kind regards, Gerard

          Andrea Rossi
          December 14, 2016 at 11:14 AM
          Gerard McEk:
          I strongly hope that in February we will have a breakthrough.
          Hard work ahead, as always.
          Thank you for your sustain,
          Warm Regards

          December 14, 2016 at 6:37 AM

          Andrea Rossi
          December 14, 2016 at 11:11 AM
          On our way toward 5Sigma.
          Warm Regards

        • Warthog

          When next you query Rossi, how about asking if he would allow a test by NIST, if it could be arranged from the NIST end.

    • Bruce Williams

      I will support that.

  • tlp

    Rossi is feeling pressure from BrLP. They are really competing to be the first in market.

    • artefact

      I think both are watching each other carefully. Often I have the feeling that if one makes a step foreward to the public the other also does.

    • Stephen

      When real alternative approaches and genuine real competition breed new insights and innovation I think everone benefits.

      All though we all hope for a breakthrough in 2017 If one method comes through we will all be thankful and amazed. if both methods come through and work in their own way different ways that’s doubly amazing to me. Stunning actually. But brilliant if true.

  • builditnow

    Hi Frank, The way I see it is, that Rossi benefits by “lack” of interest in LENR and the E-Cat, provided he has plenty of cash for continued research and development, that way he can work on pulling further ahead of his competitors, technologically, but, if he needs further investment in his research, then he may need to be a bit more public to raise funds.
    Since Rossi’s court case started, it seems like there has been a considerable reduction in interest in the LENR field in general and Rossi in particular (from my armchair view).

    On the other hand, Rossi gains some protection from his followers, if he or his work is attacked in some manner, his followers could lend some important support. If the number of followers dwindles, Rossi could feel more exposed. The anti-LENR folks may be “sharpening their knives” so to speak. Using this line of thinking, Rossi may also want to increase the interest a little right now, but, not too much.

    So, he could have two goals in some sort of a public demonstration, invigorate the supporters and raising come cash. The somewhere between $11 to $20 million he raised could be running a bit low, now that he’s not getting the promised $89 million.

    At a guess, a repeat of the 2011 type demo is under consideration. Nothing too solid, just enough to stir up interest. A bit like Brilliant Light Power.

    Frank, see if you can get an invite 🙂

  • Frank Acland

    Thanks, orsobubu.

  • Flo

    In 2 years…

  • Bruce Williams

    I thoroughly agree !

  • Omega Z

    I have followed Rossi since very early on.

    Friendship has a price. Rossi does not like to give public demos and thought the demos he did give in 2011 were premature. However he did them at the request of Sergio Focardi. Focardi’s health was failing and Focardi wanted this technology to go public while he was still here with us.

    For the 1st time, it feels to me as if Rossi is proposing this public presentation of his own choosing and not at the behest of someone else. It feels as if Rossi himself is now confident that it is ready.

  • georgehants

    December 12, 2016 at 11:39 AM
    Dear Mr. Rossi will your public demonstration be open to the public
    and will somebody independent who has tested your QuarkX etc.be there
    to confirm the results.
    Best Wishes
    Andrea Rossi
    December 12, 2016 at 6:37 PM
    Warm Regards,

  • Monty

    It sounds interesting but till now is “Rossi says”. I believe it when somebody is actually there confirming there is a presentation. Till this point I am sceptical.

  • Teemu Soilamo

    Hope… springs eternal. I would like to remind everyone that even if we DO get a presentation, even if special people ARE invited, we still won’t necessarily have ‘proof’ that the E-Cat works nor an immediate path to commercialization. Something will come up, it always does. After the February event, an indefinite amount of time–probably measured in months–will pass, after which we will start hearing echoes of a finalized “robotized line” being ready next year at Rossi’s new plant in southern Sweden. It never ends, does it?

    • Ciaranjay

      That would be like deja vu all over again.

      • Teemu Soilamo

        I asked Rossi what was the purpose of the February presentation, but he deleted my question. Probably others have done the same; but received no response.

        • sam


          December 13, 2016 at 8:01 AM

          Mr Rossi:
          If the QuarkX will not be perfectly ready by February 2017, will you force the presentation or delay?

          Andrea Rossi
          December 13, 2016 at 8:24 AM
          Warm Regards,

        • Jas

          Andrea Rossi
          December 13, 2016 at 10:41 AM
          To give good information of the QuarkX at the eve of its industrialization, I hope.
          Warm Regards

          December 13, 2016 at 8:57 AM
          Whats the reason for the presentation you are planning?

  • Gerard McEk

    Well done orsobubu.

  • Bob Greenyer

    Rossi needs to hurry up…
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/319a27883ec8d8900eb94b20873828aa714829c0a3c0b227537dd49fdefb0ba5.png https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/319a27883ec8d8900eb94b20873828aa714829c0a3c0b227537dd49fdefb0ba5.png
    Informative videos reveal latest SunCell(TM) that may produce up to 250kw continuously in a domestic fridge sized unit.

    PART 1: https://goo.gl/gIQO8b

    PART 2: https://goo.gl/ma1gtd

    Really nice history and overview of Brilliant Light Powers claimed emerging energy technology.

    The consumable is the hydrogen in water, the product is claimed to be un-reactive ‘shrunken’ hydrogen as predicted by Maly, Vavra & Mills that the latter calls hydrino.

    • artefact

      It would be a good time for me356 to present his findings now. Later it could be to late to get some recognition.

      • Bob Greenyer

        I had already written to him and suggested as much and offered to visit him before 22nd Dec if he is willing before I posted the above.

    • wpj

      Is that a UK fridge or a US fridge??

      • Bob Greenyer

        UK – US would be what, like a gigawatt? 😉

        and don’t expect an icemaker

    • Bernie Koppenhofer

      Thanks Bob, this has helped me understand Brilliant Light Powers. I agree Rossi had better “put up (Not miss his Feb. presentation) or shut up” (Stop (not) answering questions on his JONP site)

  • Axil Axil

    A study of Rossi’s method of doing business over the years has shown that he only gives a demo when he is seeking additional money from investors. It could be that Rossi does not have enough money to move on the the next aspect of what he wants to do to develope his Quark industrial reactor. He might well be seeking to dial up some additional funds to move on to either additional R&D and/or manufacturing.

    R Mills does the same thing. Mills gives a demo to potential investors when his R&D funds of getting low.

    If we consider these demos as a way to generate more R&D funding, we will not be far from the truth.

    • Bob Greenyer

      To be fair to Mills, Randall has been extremely consistent on theory – his theory – and he does provide a high degree of detail in his recent presentations including looking into claimed functional devices.

      No one could argue that replacing tungsten/molybdenum electrodes with molten silver was not an elegant and logical progression.

  • peacelovewoodstock
    • Omega Z

      Don’t hold your breath waiting for a peer reviewed paper. No Science journal will publish any such paper. It is all but forbidden at this time. But perhaps once there is a product in the market they will have no choice but to do so.

      Reverse engineered doesn’t mean anything until you use that knowledge to develop you own unique arrangement.

  • Rene

    I am less interested in another Rossi softball presentation. There is not much point to them. I hope he concentrates on getting a working commercial product out, as he has said he would do. Then we can determine the merit of his work.

  • roseland67


    Rational & unbiased?

  • artefact

    China confirms it is already testing out an EmDrive in orbit



    “This ties in with information sources in the international space industry gave IBTimes UK under condition of anonymity that China already has an EmDrive on its orbital space laboratory Tiangong-2.”

    • artefact

      On Reddit “TheTravelerReturns” wrote:

      “There are very major EmDrive events in play.
      Events which will make the Chinese EmDrive announcement seem insignificant.
      I suspect the Chinese know of these upcoming events and they are why the Chinese moved 1st, to try to gain the “High Ground”.
      BTW the Chinese EmDrives in space are not superconducting thrusters.
      If history is any judge, IBT’s Mary-Ann will be doing more articles on this and other events VERY SOON. Watch this space: http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/innovation

  • SD

    How do you put a product on the market without presenting it to potential customers?

  • BillH

    No help at all, it’s a completely different system from the 1MW plant. It might even make IH more keen to retain their contracted distribution rights in N America.

    • US_Citizen71

      What rights? No pay, no play.

  • Steve Swatman

    isnt it illegal or something to make such accusations without absolute proof, you know, witness’s or video evidence?

  • Omega Z

    Rossi didn’t submit a sample for the isotope analysis.

    The sample was taken/scraped from the insides of the Lugano reactor following the test by those who performed the Lugano test.

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