Nissan Researchers to Present at Japan Cold Fusion Meeting (Update)

UPDATE (Mar 21, 2017)

I have made some inquiries about this presentation. The conference organizers informed me that the proceedings of the conference will be published in June 2017 on their website at http://jcfrs.org/ , and nothing before them. I also contacted a member of the Nissan team asking if they could share a paper or slides. He responded that they could not, because he said they don’t understand this phenomena correctly, but after they understand it they would publish a paper in the future.

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Thanks to Ing. Michelangelo De Meo for posting the following abstract on the Journal of Nuclear Physics. A group of researchers from automaker Nissan will be making a presentation at the upcoming 17th Meeting of the Japan CF-Research Society that will be held on March 19-20 at the National Institute of Technology at Tokyo College.

The 17th Meeting of Japan CF-Research Society
JCF17 ABSTRACTS
March 19-20, 2017
Japan CF-Research Society
National Institute of Technology, Tokyo College

http://jcfrs.org/JCF17/jcf17-abstracts.pdf

Expectations on the new heat-generation-reaction between metal and hydrogen
M. Nakamura*, M. Uchimura, H. Takahashi, S. Sumitomo
Nissan Motor Co., Ltd.
*mas-nakamura@mail.nissan.co.jp
The development of technologies friendly to the global environment is a major theme in the
automotive industry today. Especially, to reduce CO2 emission and to achieve cleaner exhaust
emissions, Electrical Vehicle, EV, has received a lot of attention in recent years. The sales numbers
of 100%-EV was around 6 times higher for the past 5 years. 100%-EV means that it does not have
any other power source except motors. Nissan launched it, named LEAF, in 2010 and the total
number of sales exceeded 250,000. But some customers complains the mileage per 1 charge, around
200km. In particular, the mileage in winter season could decrease by half due to using of heater, this
should be solved.
In 2010, A. Rossi reported E-cat, Energy Catalyzer. This equipment can generate heat energy
from Ni and H2 reaction and the energy is larger than input one. This experiment was replicated by
A Parkhomov but the reaction mechanism has NOT been clarified [1-2]. If we can use this heat
energy as a heater application into EV, the problem of short mileage caused by using heater will be
solved, the EV with this equipment will be a candidate for customers who have a sense of
dissatisfaction that they should charge very often.
In this report we will report 2 things. The first one is the experimental results regarding to
reproducing Parkhomov’s experiment with some disclosing experimental conditions using
Differential Scanning Calorimetry (STA-PT1600, Linseis Inc.). This DSC can measure generated
heat within a tolerance of 2%. The second one is our expectation on this reaction for automotive
potential.
[1] A.G. Parkhomov; International Journal of Unconventional Science issue 7(3), pp. 68-72, 2015
[2] A.G. Parkhomov; International Journal of Unconventional Science issue 8(3), pp. 34-38, 2015

It’s very interesting to see a company as large as Nissan taking an active interest in LENR as a means of developing electronic vehicles, and also that they have worked on reproducing Alexander Parkhomov’s work and will be presenting some experimental results. I hope we can get more details about their findings. A company like Nissan should have the funds, facilities and equipment to carry out extensive and detailed testing, a luxury that many independent researchers can not often afford.

  • wpj

    Interesting given the Jed on LENR Forum has been saying that there is essentially none of this research going on in Japan in his arguments with IH Fanboy.

    • Jerry Soloman

      If its not in the New York Times it didn’t happen according to Jed. )

      • cashmemorz

        Exactly. The other side of that argument is that there is at least one publisher, The International Journal of Unconventional Science as mentioned in this topic. Mainstream scientists don’t bother with unconventional science I take it.

  • wpj

    Interesting given the Jed on LENR Forum has been saying that there is essentially none of this research going on in Japan in his arguments with IH Fanboy.

    • Jerry Soloman

      If its not in the New York Times it didn’t happen according to Jed. )

      • cashmemorz

        Exactly. The other side of that argument is that there is at least one publisher, The International Journal of Unconventional Science as mentioned in this topic. Mainstream scientists don’t bother with unconventional science I take it.

      • roseland67

        Jed never said that

  • Max Temple

    I sure do hope they did extensive testing and not just a one off. This is Nissan we are talking about! They have the $$$ (unless they are being ridiculously cheap) to run a hundred different tests with the fuel pre-processing adjusted each time. If they don’t report excess heat or a very low COP, I suspect they didn’t work too hard on their fuel processing.

    I hate the vagueness of their abstract. They should just tell us one way or the other if they produced excess heat!

    • Pekka Janhunen

      Abstracts are typically written rubbery. But the meeting takes place very soon, then the audience will hear what they actually claim, if anything. “Stay tuned.”

  • Max Temple

    I sure do hope they did extensive testing and not just a one off. This is Nissan we are talking about! They have the $$$ (unless they are being ridiculously cheap) to run a hundred different tests with the fuel pre-processing adjusted each time. If they don’t report excess heat or a very low COP, I suspect they didn’t work too hard on their fuel processing.

    I hate the vagueness of their abstract. They should just tell us one way or the other if they produced excess heat!

    • roseland67

      Also I think they know how to properly measure.

    • Pekka Janhunen

      Abstracts are typically written rubbery. But the meeting takes place very soon, then the audience will hear what they actually claim, if anything. “Stay tuned.”

  • roseland67

    Yes,
    Agree 100% about Nissan being involved,
    Very hopeful

  • LesioQ

    This is a disgrace to LENR phenomena to consider it just a car interior heater.
    For heating they should use extra LPG tank, not LENR.
    LENR is to be a breakthrough, not an EV range extension.

    • Steve H

      They may want to introduce this in a gradual way. It won’t spook the wider world and gives them time and a reason to assign budgets for further R&D.

      • Bob Greenyer

        Yeh – today it is a heater… following a software upgrade and thermo-electric module attachment, it now powers the drive train.

    • US_Citizen71

      A heater be it for a car or home use is probably a perfect first use of the technology. It follows the KISS principle and doesn’t step on too many toes.

      • Bob Greenyer

        I agree – the NEVER LENR continuous improvement but no delivery crew would be trumped by even a car heater ‘over unity’ new fire device. Good for them!

    • Bob Greenyer

      I think it is a very good Idea to massively increase the range of an EV car in cold countries without having to mod the drive train. It seams like a very prudent and pragmatic move.

  • LesioQ

    This is a disgrace to LENR phenomena to consider it just a car interior heater.
    For heating they should use extra LPG tank, not LENR.
    LENR is to be a breakthrough, not an EV range extension.

    • Steve H

      They may want to introduce this in a gradual way. It won’t spook the wider world and gives them time and a reason to assign budgets for further R&D.

      • Bob Greenyer

        Yeh – today it is a heater… following a software upgrade and thermo-electric module attachment, it now powers the drive train.

    • US_Citizen71

      A heater be it for a car or home use is probably a perfect first use of the technology. It follows the KISS principle and doesn’t step on too many toes.

      • Bob Greenyer

        I agree – the NEVER LENR continuous improvement but no delivery crew would be trumped by even a car heater ‘over unity’ new fire device. Good for them!

    • Bob Greenyer

      I think it is a very good Idea to massively increase the range of an EV car in cold countries without having to mod the drive train. It seams like a very prudent and pragmatic move.

  • Gerard McEk

    Just interior heat production seems to point to low temperature (< 300 degC), still a long development away from where Andrea Rossi seems to be.
    However, it would be great if a big car company would report positively about LENR. LENR would be placed in an actual commercial perspective, which must attract other (car) companies attention. This can increase the LENR momentum dramatically, when the results are promising!
    NewEnergyTimes.net reports that car manufactures participate in the Japanese governmental LENR program. So things start rolling?

  • Gerard McEk

    Just interior heat production seems to point to low temperature (< 300 degC), still a long development away from where Andrea Rossi seems to be.
    However, it would be great if a big car company would report positively about LENR. LENR would be placed in an actual commercial perspective, which must attract other (car) companies attention. This can increase the LENR momentum dramatically, when the results are promising!
    NewEnergyTimes.net reports that car manufactures participate in the Japanese governmental LENR program. So things start rolling?

  • slear

    Interesting post by Bill Gates Beating Nature at its own game

    Uhm, Hydrogen, cathalyst, palladium but cheaper. These words are not unfamiliar to me. Uhm something really going on here?.

  • slear

    Interesting post by Bill Gates Beating Nature at its own game

    Uhm, Hydrogen, cathalyst, palladium but cheaper. These words are not unfamiliar to me. Uhm something really going on here?.

  • David

    They would be much better making a fully steam powered car, or use the process for electricity generation depending on how much COP is acheivable.

    • malkom700

      Nuclear facility located in the passenger car is unlikely earlier in the ship.

      • Max Temple

        Why shouldn’t it be in a car? Even if it does not provide the primary power source (yet) the heat could be used for many different purposes: warming up batteries, pre-heating fuel, providing internal heating for the cabin, making sure the engine doesn’t freeze up on cold nights, etc.

        • malkom700

          This is the “Cold Fusion Meeting”, and now we assume that it is a nuclear process.

          • roseland67

            Malkom

            Let’s wait a while there on the “nuclear” assumption.

          • Omega Z

            I will assume there is a nuclear component to this.

            But does it matter?

            Lets look at what people are concerned about. It may produce nuclear by products under certain configurations. Anyone skilled could take an E-cat or “Name it Here” and weaponize it(Nukes). That horse is already out of the barn. Anyone skilled in the tech could build 1 from scratch for a few 1000 dollars. It’s not like you need yellowcake or something of that nature.

            Thus, as long as it can be configured so as not to produce nuclear by products under normal use, there is really no reason not to use it in consumer products.

    • Omega Z

      From the way it reads, Electric cars in the winter using heaters reduces the battery range by half. Using the E-cat for heat would greatly alleviate that.

      A better plan would be to develop a direct heat to electric converter using the waste heat for heat or applied to heat absorbtion chiller for summer time AC.

      Steam powered car’s aren’t that greaat a deal. Many issues.

  • enduser

    Nissan is now part of a large joint vehicle combine including Mitsubishi and Renault.

  • enduser

    Nissan is now part of a large joint vehicle combine including Mitsubishi and Renault.

  • malkom700

    Nuclear facility located in the passenger car is unlikely earlier in the ship.

    • Max Temple

      Why shouldn’t it be in a car? Even if it does not provide the primary power source (yet) the heat could be used for many different purposes: warming up batteries, pre-heating fuel, providing internal heating for the cabin, making sure the engine doesn’t freeze up on cold nights, etc.

      • malkom700

        This is the “Cold Fusion Meeting”, and now we assume that it is a nuclear process.

  • Max Temple

    Does anyone have any inside information on whether or not Nissan is going to publish positive results?

  • Max Temple

    Does anyone have any inside information on whether or not Nissan is going to publish positive results?

  • LION

    When mainstream science crosses the path of LENR it always brings a smile to my face.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4319498/Electrons-use-quantum-leaps-jump-atomic-layers.html

  • LION

    When mainstream science crosses the path of LENR it always brings a smile to my face.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4319498/Electrons-use-quantum-leaps-jump-atomic-layers.html

  • GGluek

    Of course we can also use e-cats to power a steam driven vehicle! (Edit: Sorry David. Didn’t get down to your post until too late.)

  • GGluek

    Of course we can also use e-cats to power a steam driven vehicle! (Edit: Sorry David. Didn’t get down to your post until too late.)

    • bob dash

      Is this preferable to an electric lenr vehicle?

  • atanguy

    It would be interesting to know how much more kilometers, in average,Nissan will get for its car with this system. If the COP is close to 10,the same system can also be installed with solar PV or wind mills for heat/AC to houses and buildings.

    • US_Citizen71

      With a COP of 10 I want one for my living room. 200W electricity in 2kW heat out I’ll take it right now and run it off the grid. It would be at least 3 times more efficient than burning same amount of natural gas used to produce the electricity in my living room with a bunsen burner.

  • atanguy

    It would be interesting to know how much more kilometers, in average,Nissan will get for its car with this system. If the COP is close to 10,the same system can also be installed with solar PV or wind mills for heat/AC to houses and buildings.

    • US_Citizen71

      With a COP of 10 I want one for my living room. 200W electricity in 2kW heat out I’ll take it right now and run it off the grid. It would be at least 3 times more efficient than burning the same amount of natural gas used to produce the electricity in my living room with a bunsen burner.

  • Old_Skeptical

    First application in a moving vehicle subject to catastrophic crashes at speed? — I’d place odds on Brilliant Light power being commercially viable and a 1000 bagger before LENR shows up in ground transportation.

  • Old_Skeptical

    First application in a moving vehicle subject to catastrophic crashes at speed? — I’d place odds on Brilliant Light power being commercially viable and a 1000 bagger before LENR shows up in ground transportation.

  • Omega Z

    From the way it reads, Electric cars in the winter using heaters reduces the battery range by half. Using the E-cat for heat would greatly alleviate that.

    A better plan would be to develop a direct heat to electric converter using the waste heat for heat or applied to heat absorbtion chiller for summer time AC.

    Steam powered car’s aren’t that greaat a deal. Many issues.

  • Omega Z

    I will assume there is a nuclear component to this.

    But does it matter?

    Lets look at what people are concerned about. It may produce nuclear by products under certain configurations. Anyone skilled could take an E-cat or “Name it Here” and weaponize it(Nukes). That horse is already out of the barn. Anyone skilled in the tech could build 1 from scratch for a few 1000 dollars. It’s not like you need yellowcake or something of that nature.

    Thus, as long as it can be configured so as not to produce nuclear by products under normal use, there is really no reason not to use it in consumer products.

  • atanguy

    From the paper:
    “…some customers complains the mileage per 1 charge, around (is)
    200km. In particular, the mileage in winter season could decrease by half due to using of heater, this should be solved.”
    The average battery power: 0.2KW-h/km
    In winter the Nissan system produces 0.1KW-h/km of heat
    @60Km/h the system produces then 6KW. That is about half of what Rossi claims with the E-Cat (10-20KW per units).
    So Nissan seems to have it….

    • Max Temple

      So the Nissan paper has been published?!? Where can we read it?

      • Max Temple

        Ignore the above post. I realize that text was in the abstract.

    • Nissan is in its very early stages of these experiments.

      Don’t expect more than COP > 1.5 in the mW to W range. This is basic reasearch, not final market product engineering.

      Their EV-battery talk is just future chattering.

  • atanguy

    From the paper:
    “…some customers complains the mileage per 1 charge, around (is)
    200km. In particular, the mileage in winter season could decrease by half due to using of heater, this should be solved.”
    The average battery power in LEAF: 0.2KW-h/km
    In winter the Nissan system produces then 0.1KW-h/km of heat
    @60Km/h the system produces then 6KW. That is about half of what Rossi claims with the E-Cat (10-20KW per unit).
    So Nissan seems to have replicated it….

    • Max Temple

      So the Nissan paper has been published?!? Where can we read it?

      • Max Temple

        Ignore the above post. I realize that text was in the abstract.

    • Nissan is in its very early stages of these experiments.

      Don’t expect more than COP > 1.5 in the mW to W range. This is basic reasearch, not final market product engineering.

      Their EV-battery talk is just future chattering.

  • Zephir

    This work is about Pd/Ni – D/H system, i.e. essentially about Patterson electrolytic cell, which utilized
    beads composed of Ni/Pd layers. There is synergy between Ni and Pd fusion, as the Pd probably speeds-up the uptake of D in atomic form. It think, that even pure palladium work in similar way and that the actual fusion runs on grains of impurities embedded in it.

    https://ecatsite.wordpress.com/the-e-cat-and-the-patterson-power-cell/
    https://ecatsite.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/ceti_bead.jpg

    • Max Temple

      The test by Nissan has nothing to do with Pd – they mention it is a replication of Alexander Parkhomov. We know he used Ni and LiAlH4.

  • Zephir

    This work is about Pd/Ni – D/H system, i.e. essentially about Patterson electrolytic cell, which utilized
    beads composed of Ni/Pd layers. There is synergy between Ni and Pd fusion, as the Pd probably speeds-up the uptake of D in atomic form. It think, that even pure palladium work in similar way and that the actual fusion runs on grains of impurities embedded in it.

    https://ecatsite.wordpress.com/the-e-cat-and-the-patterson-power-cell/
    https://ecatsite.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/ceti_bead.jpg

  • Bob Greenyer

    About to call the Indian, any questions about his reactor – put them here

    • artefact

      I think we know too little to ask questions exept for maybe:
      What is it, what is the COP, is reproducible, how long does it run, transmutations, what theory did he follow while inventing it?

      • Bob Greenyer

        Call was fantastic – true to his commitment to me, he has been very open. I respect this man a true EGO OUT.

        I think you will be VERY satisfied with the interview and the other videos I will share.

        Writing up key facts for those that can’t be bothered to watch and listen.

        Release and Discussion will be on https://steemit.com/@mfmp

        • stica

          Release and Discussion will be on ..
          when please ?

          • Bob Greenyer

            I have a lot of videos to upload, one to make and some key point transcripts to write. It is also a weekend and so I have to fit these things around my family.

            I want to get it out today latest tomorrow.

          • Bob Greenyer

            Starting to share more information – video on YT and Audio in Sound cloud – links on FB.

  • Bob Greenyer

    About to call the Indian, any questions about his reactor – put them here

    • artefact

      I think we know too little to ask questions exept for maybe:
      What is it, what is the COP, is reproducible, how long does it run, transmutations, what theory did he follow while inventing it?

      • Bob Greenyer

        Call was fantastic – true to his commitment to me, he has been very open. I respect this man a true EGO OUT.

        I think you will be VERY satisfied with the interview and the other videos I will share.

        Writing up key facts for those that can’t be bothered to watch and listen.

        Release and Discussion will be on https://steemit.com/@mfmp

        • stica

          Release and Discussion …
          when exactly ?

        • stica

          Release and Discussion will be on ..
          when please ?

          • Bob Greenyer

            I have a lot of videos to upload, one to make and some key point transcripts to write. It is also a weekend and so I have to fit these things around my family.

            I want to get it out today latest tomorrow.

          • Bob Greenyer

            Starting to share more information – video on YT and Audio in Sound cloud – links on FB.

  • atanguy

    Thinking about this potentially first industrial application:
    If, as said in the abstract, the CF Nissan system allows to replace up to half of the range of the LEAF car; this means that the COP doesn’t have to be tremendously high to be technically/financially attractive. A COP of only 2 will increase the range of 50Km for the car in cold weather!
    The same can be done with a PV or eolian system on an house for example: A reliable low COP CF can replace a lot of electric wattage for heating the house.
    Maybe Rossi trying to start building a 1MW system should have done instead a smaller low COP but reliable CF that can be sold with PV/Wind Mills systems.

  • atanguy

    Thinking about this potentially first industrial application:
    If, as said in the abstract, the CF Nissan system allows to replace up to half of the range of the LEAF car; this means that the COP doesn’t have to be tremendously high to be technically/financially attractive. A COP of only 2 will increase the range of 50Km for the car in cold weather!
    The same can be done with a PV or eolian system on an house for example: A reliable low COP CF can replace a lot of electric wattage for heating the house.
    Maybe Rossi trying to start building a 1MW system should have done instead a smaller low COP but reliable CF that can be sold with PV/Wind Mills systems.

  • Bob Greenyer
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  • kenko1

    Day 1 of the conference is over. Day 2 is just starting. Anybody got any news?

  • kenko1

    Day 1 of the conference is over. Day 2 is just starting. Anybody got any news?

  • Jonnyb

    Off subject but has anyone heard how MIT NANOR is going, and developments and Santelli?

  • Jonnyb

    Off subject but has anyone heard how MIT NANOR is going, and developments and Santelli?

  • Peter Lang

    there should be much more mainstream coverage at this stage. MIT NANOR, suncell, ecat, HHT boiler there is clearly “something about hydrogen” and it needs taken seriously

  • bob dash

    This should be on the mainstream news by now! Imagine a powerful car or SUV you don’t charge or fill up, powerful enough to run your house/campsite off of in an emergency, or supplement the grid during peak demand. Just get get a maintenance check up / reactor swap once a year and your good. Push the envelope Nissan!