MFMP Begins Testing of ECCO Fuel

Bob Greenyer has been posting on the Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project’s Steemit site about their progress in testing of fuel that has been sent to them from Indian researcher Suhas Ralkar, the inventor of the ECCO reactor, which he claims to be a working LENR device.

The MFMP are planning to visit Suhas in India, but before taking that trip, they have been sent fuel which they have begun testing. Bob posted this today:

For those that are unfamiliar with Suhas Ralkar’s process for creating Nickel foil – please check out our previous article here. Nickel Sulphate is mixed with de-ionised water, the combination of which is used to electro-deposit Nickel foil onto 304 Stainless Steel by way 300khz of 200V DC ultrasonic ‘hydrogen plasma’ and in sympathy vibrations.

According to a previous MFMP post, Suhas’s fuel starts out with this:

There are two types of fuel Suhas produced and ran, both of which contain 60% Titanium + 5% Carbon black + 5% Potassium Carbonate + 10% Lithium Hydroxide

In addition, during processing:

“1x” fuel has 10% Nickel + 10 % Molybdenum
“final” fuel has 20% Nickel

In their most recent post, the MFMP now states that testing suggests that the used fuel has been shown to include gold, silver, palladium, holmium and tantalum, which was not in the original fuel.

CORRECTION — Bob Greenyer below has explained this in a comment below:

“Frank, gold, silver, palladium, holmium and tantalum, was found on the Nickel Foil during EDX and MALDI TOF MS, not as a product of the ECCO reactor. We have yet to publish any data of what is in the ash, and most of the ashed have not been analysed yet.”

UPDATE: Bob has posted a video of magnetic testing of some of the ECCO fuel here:

  • Gerard McEk

    According Bob Suhas uses ‘sympathy vibrations’?!
    That must lead to a successful LENR test! 😉

    • Bob Greenyer

      He uses vibrations at the same frequency, both his foil production (300kHz DC 200V pulses with physical 300kHz surface wave vibrations along metal substrate) and the ECCO reactor (approx. 1MHz DC 2000-2400V pulses with same frequency of ultrasonic vibrations to the tube to fluidise fuel).

      In the case of the fuel, there is expected to be cavitation in the fuel processor, which may cause discharge, this would be in some sort of relationship with the applied 19.46kHz sound.

      • Gerard McEk

        From what I read, cavitation may cause substantial nuclear activity, probably because the forces within the cavitation bubble can tear apart lattice surface structures locally at nano scale. On macro scale when breaking rocks/stones under high pressure, transmutation happens along the broken surface of the stone. These surfaces may also be nuclear active. I assume that locations where atoms were removed from the lattice can have special conditions that may lead to LENR.

        • Bob Greenyer

          Hi Gerard, you are referring to the work of Alberto Carpinteri – a chap who we tried to replicate way back when, but had wrong stone, not enough force and wrong bubble detectors. Doh!

          Haematite splits to 2 Al on brittle fracture – the exact opposite of 2 Al forming Fe in George Ohsawa electric discharge reaction!

          • Gerard McEk

            Yes, let us wait and see how Suhas fuel behaves. Do you know when you go to India?

          • Bob Greenyer

            Maybe sooner than planned. George Egely has his VISA, mine hopefully on way

          • Bob Greenyer

            I have my visa now. Waiting on go ahead from Suhas

        • Bob Greenyer

          Cavitation is certainly brutal.

  • Bob Greenyer

    Frank, gold, silver, palladium, holmium and tantalum, was found on the Nickel Foil during EDX and MALDI TOF MS, not as a product of the ECCO reactor. We have yet to publish any data of what is in the ash, and most of the ashed have not been analysed yet.

    • Frank Acland

      Thanks Bob — I have included your correction above.

      • Bob Greenyer

        Thanks, and well done on your work transferring the site. I used to run some wordpress sites and they were forever getting attacked. At least commenting seems to be more functional now!

        • Frank Acland

          Glad to hear it, Bob.

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    • Stephen

      Wow. That is curious…

      Do you know how the axis line up with the phone? Is the Z axis through the body of the phone and the X,Y axis over the face?

      Did you try aligning the packet sideways as well as the Back and front?

      Looking forward to the SEM analysis now

      • Bob Greenyer

        Please look at the videos on Steemit link above. I tried many orientations.

        I have not looked up the magnetometer specifics for the Galaxy S7, I imagine it is out there somewhere.

    • Andreas Moraitis

      Looks like typical values for the earth’s magnetic field.

      • Bob Greenyer

        Please see videos on steemit link.

        • Andreas Moraitis

          Maybe you could repeat the test

          1- in a box made of mu-metal to get rid of the external field,
          2- with some ‘dummy’ powders (not magnetized vs. magnetized).

          • Bob Greenyer

            I have a mu-metal box that should fit my phone. Currently the samples are taped to a radiographic plate and I want to leave them there for several days.

            All of the other powders did not show this property.

    • Gerard McEk

      Earth magnetic field strength is 25 – 65 uT according Wikipedia. Did you zero that beforehand?
      If the content is Ni its permeability (ur) may influence the earth field and cause the shown result.

      • Bob Greenyer

        You need to see the videos, the values are pretty stable when not moved.

        Why did no other fuel batches or ash have this effect, I mean none of them did, not the wet slurrys or the dry powder, just this one.

        Super conductors do not allow magnetic field to pass through them – however, this was more like a the slurry has magnetic properties.

        Surely if it was just blocking it, it would be the same regardless of orientation?

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  • Andreas Moraitis

    New paper on JoNP by Paolo Accomazzi, „Binuclear Atoms: a model to explain Low Energy Nuclear Reactions“:

    http://www.journal-of-nuclear-physics.com/files/Binuclear%20Atoms%20-%20A%20model%20to%20explain%20Low%20Energy%20Nuclear.pdf

  • Bob Greenyer

    ECCO – Titanium powder form and purity

    Not as one would expect!

    https://steemit.com/science/@mfmp/ecco-titanium-powder-form-and-purity

  • Anon2012_2014

    Frank, can you look into putting the number of comments on the new format front page? That helps us decide if there is more commentary to read. Thank you, Anon12

    • Frank Acland

      I wish i could, but since the migration the comments are not showing acccurately, so I took them off the front page. For example, for this thread it reads zero comments. I am trying to fix that at the moment.

      • Anon2012_2014

        Thank you Frank.

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    • CWatters

      What is it with LENR researchers and steam?

      • Bob Greenyer

        The ECCO reactor, we are led to believe, can run in hot water mode. We will preferentially test it like this – though we will have the equipment to test steam.

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