Video: Tom Darden Reflects on Life in Environmental Cleanup, LENR Businesses

A reader sent me a link to a video which he recorded at a Clean Tech Summit at the University of North Carolina held in March 2017 of an address by Cherokee CEO Tom Darden, where he discusses a lifetime working in the field of investing in brownfield cleanup and in supporting LENR research, and some of the lessons he has learned.

He refers to talking to many top researchers in the LENR field, and initially investing in about a dozen. At the time of this talk, he states that there are about three of them that they still felt were promising (not naming any names). He makes no mention of the Rossi v. IH lawsuit which was going on at the time.

The audio quality is not great (it’s really quiet), but with my headphones on and turned up I can hear it fine.

  • sam

    T.D said with 20 minutes left in speech
    that it is unusual for him to spend more
    than 30 dedicated minutes at one thing.
    Could this have caused a problem with
    him trying to figure out A.R. and his

    • Abd Ul-Rahman Lomax

      Darden delegated most of the work to Vaughn. I had an extended talk with Vaughn in Miami. If you look at the documents, most work was being done by Vaughn, a relatively young man. Darden was the Keeper of the Secret, i.e., the fuel formula, but that did not require him to do a lot of work. On the other hand, if somehow the fuel were improperly prepared, that could explain the Boeing test failure. In LENR, what might seem tiny, inconsequential details can make a difference.

      On the other hand, what was really being tested by Boeing was not exactly the “Rossi technology,” but whether or not a useful technology had been fully transferred. For business purposes, it’s practically irrelevant if there is a “real technology,” if it hasn’t been transferred. That transfer is what gives it social value, which is what money is about. Otherwise, what if reactors actually work very well as long as Rossi is there babysitting them?

      I’ve called this Rossi Grease, as a crucial ingredient for successful reactor operation. It’s actually a sign of transfer failure. Why did Rossi need to be there personally every day for so many hours?

      Yes, I can imagine a pseudoskeptical reason. But set that aside. Couldn’t he teach someone else to babysit the reactor? If not, why not?

  • Buck

    Darden turned to the topic of fusion energy at about 35:00 into the video. At about 41:00, Darden begins to assess himself, his traits, his cares, his philosophy. The Q&A portion of the video begins at 49:30 with an IH question being asked at 55:50

    My take on his speech will become firmer with the release of the agreement for ending the lawsuit and Rossi’s still to be scheduled presentation before year end on the QuarkX.

    If the agreement and QuarkX presentation turn out as I hope, then history will likely not treat Darden well.

    • sam

      The person that asks guestion about I.H. Is coming in loud and clear.Asks nothing about A.R.
      Is this a Dog and Pony show.

      • Buck

        I would say Darden is positioning himself, that he was painting a picture of how he wants others to see his character and his life. IMO, Darden by that time had the sense the case with Rossi would not go well.

        So, without knowing if Darden knew the person who recorded the speech and posed the question, I can’t say much more than his intent to position himself.

    • Buck

      Just read Mats Lewan’s interview of Rossi about the now disclosed settlement. Wow! ! !

  • Brent Buckner

    According to Mr. Lomax: “‘Smart man’ was not about Rossi”.
    per his comment

  • Buck

    Well, I just read Mats Lewan’s interview of Rossi about the now disclosed settlement and the events leading up to the settlement. The following really cements my opinion of Darden

    Mats: “Going back in time—when did you first understand that things were not going well between you and IH?”

    Rossi: “When I discovered that IH was making agreements with our competitors. At that point, I understood that they were trying to fill up their portfolio of intellectual property in view of litigation with us pending the huge payment they were going to have to pay. It was instinct—I had no proof, but eventually, the facts confirmed this instinctive doubt.”

    • sam

      What facts?What competitors?
      Rossi thought Brillouin.
      But Godes said no.