Brilliant Light Power Update

Thanks to Doug Marker for the following post.

The below is some long awaited and anticipated news as to what Brilliant Light Power have been doing. It was in May 2017 that we last got an offcial update from them.

I won’t offer any detailed commentary on the below material other than to say that they appear to be slowly moving forward.  Am confident everyone can read out of it what they want.

Doug Marker – Aug 10 2017


BLP Business Update – August 2017

Pages 1-3 are an introduction & safe harbor statement.
Page one indicates parts of the below are redacted.

SLIDE A (Pg 4)

SunCell Heat System Design Commencing

BrLP has engaged TMI Climate Solutions to develop system concepts and solutions for thermal applications
with SunCell Light (power) source.

• Assignment is for two designs:
– 500 kW thermal radiant boiler for a 3000K blackbody radiator
– 500 kW thermal radiant boiler for a blackbody radiator at a temperature
that is optimal for commercialization using existing optimal systems

• TMI Climate Solutions provides an experienced development partner
– Parent firm MiTek, a Berkshire-Hathaway company, with revenues estimated at $1.6B (St Louis Business Journal Apr 27, 2017)
– TMI provide manufactures  and delivers the best custom solutions available today for worldwide applications

SLIDE B (Pg 5)

PV Development Progress

• Path forward based on systems analysis:
– Si technologies are best choice; widely available
– Si-ideal band gap of 0.84 eV at the ideal opening temperature for cooling of 130°C (Cooling technology readily exists)
– Si paradoxically becomes more efficient at higher temperatures, due to collecting more of the 3000 K blackbody radiator light
– Larger radius PV shell reduces system to 300-500 Suns
– Larger radius PV shell reduces cost; 10X more cells are required, but lower cost of cSi cells, overall systems cost reduced along with development risk
– Light recycling leads to higher efficiency

• Efficiency estimates are well within business plan ranges for SunCell
– 1J silicon solar cells operating at elevated temperatures can achieve over 20% efficiency
– Light recycling estimates 40-50% efficiency feasible
– Reduced cooling system complexity
– Cost feasible at $60 / kW in production volume

SLIDE C (Pg 6)

PV Development Progress

• Multiple vendor proposals in development
• System design now enables robust, commercially available PV

Si PV Cell Company:
Working on Si PV  cell company contract for cSi. 18 years of CPV field experience

FFC 1:
Fortune 500 Company (FFC1), working on contract for III-V 3J
cells on InP substrate.

Microchannel Company:
off-the-shelf PV cooling system (DRA in house).  Working on contract through FFC1 and FFC2.

SLIDES D, E & F (Pgs 7-9)
(These 3 slides go into more detail about the above 3 companies work on PV)

SLIDE G (Pg 10)

SunCell Next Generation Breakthrough Potential
• Direct power extraction (DPE), emerging technology to directly convert
thermal & kinetic power to electrical power

SLIDE H (Pg 11)


•Gold standard method of measuring power and energy balance of single hydrino fuel pellet ignition achieved using NIST calibrations and shunt circuit to overcome interference from electromagnetic pulse

•Results show 20 MW peak optical power as unique signature of a high energy continuum emission spectrum

•Results show energy gain of 200 to 500 times

•New paper to be published in noted science journal demonstrating methods for measuring power and gain from Hydrino® reaction optically and thermally using state of the art instruments

•Hydrino products identified by multiple analytical methods

•Foundation for National Labs experiments and conclusive proof of “better than fire”
energy source

•Supports the SunCell® Automated Cell demonstration by showing the potential massive power density and gain of the hydrino power source that can be harnessed into applications by the SunCell with optimization

•Commercial and academic validation in progress

  • Thomas Baccei

    Rossi sure could use BLP’s Public Relations Department!

  • Gerard McEk

    The only development I see is that they seem to improve the organization and high level scientific support. Not so much technical progress.

    • Epi

      The first three points of the list on page 3 where known. The last five points are new and you can clearly see what they where dealing with in the last 3 months:
      -leaking at high temperatures
      -cell and injector melting
      -silver streams where not intersecting properly

      Makes total sense. I like the part with the increased size of the dome. Seems to be much easier this way.

    • Vinney

      BLP and Mills may be dilluting their stake (ownership) in the technology, but on the other hand, they may also be increasing the size of the pie. These development partners and engineering firms may be using work on this project to create new processes and patent those advancements.
      I really hoped they create a thermal reactor (similar to Rossi’s early 20 kW) regardless of its physical size and convoluted calorimetry, and let some people see it working ( for a few hours or weeks).
      That would really tell us this is a two horse race.

  • Rene

    Bigger dome reduces material stresses. It also permits using far less expensive high-temp PV cells with requisite expensive exotic cooling techniques. Less stress means longer life too. Assuming the reaction really works, it is a better way to go. You push stressors to the limits when there is no other way to do it. That is not the sweet spot for continuous power generation.

  • Dr. Mike

    My comments on the August 2017 update:

    Page 3. Power Systems Progress- BLP seems to have solved some engineering problems, some of which were known and some new problems arising as development continued. What is missing is information on how high of power level they have achieved and for how long the system has operated. I assume they haven’t yet achieved a very high output power and have not operated the system for very long at the achieved power level or BLP would have been featuring the news on this page. (Remember they had anticipated having prototypes by mid-2017.)

    Page 4. Heat System- It’s good they have hired TMI Climate Solutions to design the new heat systems; however, by not having in house engineering to do this task, TMI Climate engineers will first have to study the basic power system before doing much design work. IMO this doesn’t make the prospects for a prototype showing up in the near future (one year or so). However, having experts design the boilers might improve the timeline for the availability of a commercial system.

    Page 5. Going to a Larger Array of Si CPV cells. The previous approach was to use 1-Junction, 2- Junction, then finally 3-Junction III-V semiconductor cells at a concentration of ~2000 suns to achieve an electrical output. It appears BLP has determined it can make a less expensive system using SI CPV cells at a concentration factor of only 300-500 suns. This can be achieved by placing the cells at a much larger distance (3X or so) from the graphite radiator than the III-V CPV cells were to be placed from the graphite sphere. The larger geodesic dome of Si CPV cells will require up to 10 times the area required for the III-V CPV cells. However, the cost per unit area of a Si CPV cell might be only 2-5% of the III-V cells. Therefore, a larger array of Si cells collecting light at 300-500 suns equivalent, will probably be less expensive than the 3-junction InP based cells collecting light at 2000 suns. Also, it should be easier to cool the cells operating at the lower incident power levels. It should be noted that with 20% efficient cells, BLP will probably only be able to convert 10% or so of the incident power to electricity because of issues of the amount of area coverage and the illumination uniformity that I discussed in previous posts. Also. BLP,s claim a 40-50% efficiency with light recycling does not mean they will get any additional electrical power out of the system. It only means they will need less fuel (hydrogen) to achieve a given dome temperature and perhaps need less CPV cell cooling.

    Page 6. BLP has finally issued a contract for building the triple junction InP CPV cells, which have the potential to output a little more power than the Si CPV cells. However, no update was given on the development of the 2-junction cells. Has this been successful?

    Page 10. Direct power Extraction. No information was given on how BLP will attempt this so my assumption is that prospects for this innovation are well into the future.

    Page 11. It is interesting to note that previous presentations claimed an energy gain of 200. Now BLP has upped this claim to 200-500.

    • tlp

      “… and perhaps need less CPV cell cooling”
      It definitely means less waste heat (and less cooling) and that is very important. 40-50% efficiency is better than any other heat to electricity conversion method used today. Also that waste heat is now much more valuable when the temperature is about 130 C compared to about 60 C with the earlier design. It is now more usable to all kinds of heating purposes, and if you still have no use for that heat, it is much easier to cool it to 130 C compared to 60 C.

      • Dr. Mike

        The conversion of output power to electricity will only be about 10% in the initial design, not 40-50%. The “light recycling” will not add to the electrical output; however, by reflecting the infrared energy back to the source rather than have this energy heat the CPV cells, less cooling of the cells will be required and less fuel will have to be used to maintain the temperature of the graphite sphere.

        • tlp

          But it reduces waste heat, so electricity out is about the same as waste heat! That is very good result. Efficiency IS 40-50%, try to understand this.

          • Dr. Mike

            My estimation of the total output with 20-25% efficient Si CPV cells is about 10% electrical power, about 40% reflected energy back to the source, about 50% waste heat. The electrical output will improve somewhat as the illumination uniformity can be improved (and perhaps a better design on the geodesic dome).

          • tlp

            50% waste heat means that another 50% is not wasted. So then that must be generated to electricity. Reflected energy warm the light bulb and cannot go anywhere else but back to the CPV.

          • Dr. Mike

            The 40% of energy reflected back to and captured by the graphite sphere only reduces the amount of hydrogen needed to be converted to hydrinos to achieve a certain graphite sphere temperature (plus reducing cooling requirements). Since the hydrogen is generated from electrolysis of water the energy used in the electrolysis process can be reduced by about 40%. If one assumes an output of 200KW of thermal power from the graphite sphere and the energy gain of producing hydrinos is 200, then it will take about 1KW to generate the hydrogen for this output level. A 40% savings from infrared being reflected back to the source will amount to a 400W overall system energy savings. IMO the savings in the power used for cooling may be larger than this 400W savings in hydrogen generation. Based on my estimates the electrical output will be initially about 20KW without regard to the amount of energy reflected back to the source for this scenario of 200KW of output power from the graphite sphere.

          • tlp

            Fuel savings are peanuts, waste heat reduction is the key here.
            They have estimated 40-50% efficiency, meaning that waste heat is only 50-60%, using simple and cheap solar panels, by just reflecting unused wavelenghts back. Remember also, that if/when solar panels are not covering 100% of the dome area, those other areas can have mirrors to reflect (almost) all light back.

      • CWatters

        Does the efficiency of the cells really matter very much if the COP is 200-500? Easily enough to transform an existing power station.

        • tlp

          It does not matter so much in a power station, at least when it is combined electricity and heat power station, but in mobile applications too much waste heat is harmful. But anyway that light recycling is simple and effective way to reduce waste heat. Simply reflect those waveleghts that the CPV cannot use back to the graphite dome. Of course reflection cannot be 100% effective, otherwise you could get 100% efficiency from any solar panel this way. But that 40-50% efficiency could very well be possible using normal 20% solar panels.

  • Dr. Mike

    See if my comment above helps. Si CPV cells are dirt cheap relative to triple junction InP CPV cells. Also, BLP is still planning on operating the 3-J InP CPV cells at a illumination intensity somewhat higher than currently speced. They may be anticipating some problems here which would either force a larger dome array size or reduce the power output of the graphite sphere.

  • Dr. Mike

    Si is silicon. Si CPV cells have been around for a long time. My PhD thesis completed more than 40 years ago was on fabricating a Si CPV cell. Triple junction III-V cells on InP substrates have only been developed within the last 10 years or so.

  • Job001

    The problem solving underway at BLP is impressive.
    1.The SunCell design is altered to use established solar product(slightly less efficient existing silicon solar cells).
    2.Hydrino theory is advanced by more sophisticated testing and instrumentation.
    3.Practical thermal control, material, and reliability issues are being solved.
    4.Thermal gains of 200 to 500 times are not fake.
    5.Teaming up with TMI Parent firm MiTek, a Berkshire-Hathaway company provides manufacturing, marketing and financial brilliance.
    As a tough skeptic I am impressed and look forward to the next advances likely early 2018.

  • Michael W Wolf

    The engineering and development is extremely complex. Many people and organizations are involved. This really makes Rossi seem years away from commercialization. This is what I hoped to see from Rossi. But he is back to his lab table and a long way away from his dream.

    • Omega Z

      Mills and Rossi have taken two different approaches. Each appears to have their own advantages.

      Mills technology will require a lot more technical R&D work then Rossi’s even for making use of the heat. Rossi’s E-cat is pretty straight forward. A simple off the shelf boiler or exchanger will suffice. Obviously, a market product for a specific purpose may need minor tweaking, the technology is still off the shelf. Even for electrical power plants, most of the technology preexists.

      As I see it, Mills technology will be more user friendly for transportation(cars & trucks), but more so should they develop an efficient MHD direct energy convertor.

      One take away in watching Mills(He’s become more open about problems) is when one issue is resolved, you suddenly find you have another. I have no doubt that Rossi has had similar experiences. I believe Rossi’s premature projections have suffered from this. Thus we see Rossi is more reserved in his projections with less certainty as to time frame.

      Should Rossi’s QX pan out, building a marketable product will happen much faster then Mills.

      • Piper

        Liquid Metal Magnetohydrodynamics (LMMHD), Alkali Metal Thermal to Electric Conversion (AMTEC), Hydrogen Metal-Hydride Thermo Electric Conversion (HYTEC), Photo-Enhanced Thermionic Conversion (PETE), Metal-Insulator-Metal (MIM) Optical Rectenna are possible routes to harness a light/heat source for electrical production.

        The first three on the list have some association with a nuclear derived heat source, though concentrated solar works ok. They also have been evaluated as potential space power electrical systems. The others are of more recent vintage.

        They all need further work in materials science development to gain efficiency or longevity to be competitive. Some are low power density; yet, may be suitable for mobile applications in which weight isn’t a limiting factor.

        • Omega Z

          Mills original plan for the Suncell was MHD. Then suddenly turned to PVC. No explanation was given.

          Something that seems like a great match for Rossi’s QX is JTEC created by Dr. Lonnie Johnson(of Super Soaker fame). However, I don’t know how far along he has come. He’s talking 60% Carnot at 600`C with an ultimate goal of 85% Carnot. It’s a solid state system. Zero moving parts.

          • Piper

            Dr. Johnson went the route of pursuing a better battery than the lithium technology of the time–that is where his funds are sunk–likely a down-hole oilfield equipment application. As to JTEC, this appears to be an evolutionary advance of HYTEC, which has roots in AMTEC. Suffers from the common “new technology” problem of a materials deficiency blocking commercial application; and, likely will require much funding to resolve.

            The explanation one seeks concerning Mill’s change in direction has similarity to the chemistry quirk of Ballotechnic materials (Sandia National Laboratories research) which produce heat versus blast effects as initiated by a shock-wave. The Mill’s catalyzed chemistry produces very little in reaction products carrying kinetic energy, virtually all the energy is released as short wavelength radiation. The reaction plasma’s generated pressure is too low to drive a plasma MHD conversion device. Seems this caught him by surprise, thus the sudden pivot to photovoltaics driven by a very hot black-body radiator. The carbon sphere assists down-conversion of soft X-ray and solar spectrum UV from the reaction, re-radiating the energy at wavelengths suitable for solar spectrum PV conversion devices.


  • Zephir

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    металлов демонстрация Энергонива – ответная ЭДС в реакторе Вачаева,
    эффект Лыгина from

    Videos are in Russia, so feel free to ask for details. For background see
    . This technology shares many resemblances for BLC Power process: high current discharge inside the water vapor plasma between copper or silver electrodes with signs of overunity – just the the arrangement of experiment is a bit different.

  • georgehants

    Michael W Wolf, georgehants “rants” about anything that delays Cold Fusion or any technology or effort to be shared and help people and the World, just like you are ranting now about something you believe and I have made very clear in the past I agree with.
    It does not matter to me what causes that delay or lack of caring and sharing, be it the system, greed, ego, stupidity, ignorance, media brainwashing, etc. etc.
    So please include me in your fight against such a “travesty.”

  • Dr. Mike

    Correct. BLP found that once the system reached some high temperature, the reaction was self sustaining. My assumption is that once this occurs the energy produced depends only on the amount of hydrogen fuel available. The output could also be limited by the amount of material available that accepts the energy from the hydrogen.

    • Omega Z

      “BLP found that once the system reached some high temperature, the reaction was self sustaining.”

      Any bets on the high temperature being around 2600`C. I’m betting Mills and Rossi are obtaining excess energy from the same pond. Just using slightly different bait.

      • Dr. Mike

        I originally thought this might be true, but after seeing the energy spectra generated within the SunCell, it now does not seem likely they are the same process.

        • Omega Z

          Different process. Same source. Mills original device was very similar to Rossi’s. Even the same elements NI/H. Both have evolved. Mills and the Suncell and Rossi with the QX using different mix of elements then they started with.

          • Dr. Mike

            The possibility exists. When the processes are fully understood we will know if the source is the same.

  • US_Citizen71

    All I get out of the update is essentially they can’t get it to work reliably with the in house talent they have so they are bringing in talent from the outside. I hope they get it to work, but I fear it will end up just like every other attempt Mills has made at commercialization of power from his “Hydrinos”.

    • MorganMck

      BrLP have been partnered with Columbia Tech, which is largely an engineering firm, for some time. Several of their videos were actually shot at CT.

  • Rene

    Thanks for the dung dump, ignored.
    The problem is that there is no definitive proof yet. It looks nice on paper, and the academic conversation is quite varied. It looks nice and spectular on YouTube, it looks nice on their say-so but it is not independently verified. So, until is it verified by disinterested 3rd parties, maybe it works. This is no different a treatment than all the Rossi says statements.

    I’m happy for you. Jim, that you are true believer. I remain an evidence based skeptic.

  • Rene

    Answer: independent disinterested parties must verify it. Period.

  • CWatters

    Why concentrate on using PV to make electricity? Wouldnt it be better to bolt a subcell onto an existing steam turbine power station?

    • Dr. Mike

      It certainly seems possible that a power plant boiler could be replaced with a new boiler design and an array of SunCells. Even with a fairly expensive boiler design, the entire system would probably pay for itself in a few months of fuel savings.

    • MorganMck

      Mills has said that the efficiency of non-PV solutions were all inferior plus they require more maintenance and have a shorter projected life. They like the PV solution as it is near solid state and close to maintenance free.

  • georgehants

    Michael, no problem, it is good that we seem to agree that our system needs to be improved.

  • Rene

    Yes, there are different flavors of ‴independent‴ parties. We have years of that documented in this site and others. It is not, however, a dual experience, hence I do not automatically trust Mills as much as I do not trust the true disbelievers either. I trust evidence that can be reproduced by others than the inventors. And even then, it warrants scrutiny.

  • Rene

    Dr Mike covered it well. The short of it is that using exotic PV tech, though a great efficiency goal, also means you take on another set of problems. That they have come to realize this problem and are switching to older known tech is a good sign. Making a product is very different than making a solid working prototype.

  • sam
  • ElaisaKasan

    You pay to charge the battery pack, but not the SunCell. Big difference.