Transmutation Confirmed? New MFMP Video: “NOVA Basic – First Look at 2 Minute Processed Charcoal”

Here’s a new video published by the Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project in which they look at ash produced from processing carbon from charcoal after two minutes in George Egely’s NOVA reactor, using a Scanning Electron Microscope.

In the video, they show results in which aluminium, magnesium, iron, silicon, sulphur, potassium, calcium, titanium, sodium, copper are identified.

From the video description:

NOTE: CHARCOAL AND GRAPHITE LEAD USED WITH UNKNOWN ANALYSIS

First look at 2 mins of charcoal processed in Basic NOVA reactor seems to confirm the claims of Dr. George Egely that it is producing George Ohsawa reaction products. Tests with controlled pure carbon needed to be certain.

  • Goodrice

    If massive transmutation to iron occurs, instead or in addition to EDS analysis it should be possible right away after experiment to burn the treated carbon in a small furnace, then place the remaining powder in an acid bath to remove the oxides. It would then become immediately clear if it’s iron.

    • Bob Greenyer

      Good tip – however, the amounts in this run were small. Many more videos uploaded now to MFMP channel

      Bob

      • R101

        Thanks for this Bob, I’ve been watching and thumbing up. It’s great also that the reactor can re-heat your lunch too. It’s very versatile 😉

        • Bob Greenyer

          And very quickly to!

  • Bob Greenyer

    NOVA Basic – separating highly magnetically influenced particles from ash
    https://youtu.be/W1c_vsDmqEM

    NOVA Basic – First look at 2 minute processed charcoal
    https://youtu.be/YnCPuLgBikI

    NOVA Basic – looking at a spherical feature
    https://youtu.be/6Vnt1qYHMeo

    NOVA Basic – Looking at a spherical ash component
    https://youtu.be/nBLvhDiPdLc

    NOVA Basic – Looking at the blob
    Including a discussion on the George Ohsawa reaction chains
    https://youtu.be/5v4iTXHa5-g

    NOVA Basic – Looking at the ‘charcoal’ that moved with the spheres
    https://youtu.be/R2vIvd26ldM

    NOVA Basic – Looking at spongey blob
    https://youtu.be/3NXqPDnI-Qg

    NOVA Basic – Looking at the ash that was not moved by magnet
    https://youtu.be/TObo8tD3H44

    NOVA Basic – Looking at more ash that was not moved by magnet 
https://youtu.be/YrOw50dyv8Y

    • Zephir
      • Bob Greenyer

        I sent that Indian paper to Dr. Egely last year – his response was, “the Iron produced is heavier than the entire mass of the graphite lead plasma igniter”

        If that proves so, then that is pretty definitive.

        Additionally, this does not occur in carbon arc in water

        • Zephir

          /* Additionally, this does not occur in carbon arc in water */

          Don’t fable – investigate. This is what MFMP takes money for…

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KV8hz5Ubfc

          • Bob Greenyer

            Hi Zephir, you missunderstood me – I meant that you do not have to have a graphite pencil ‘lead’ to ignite the plasma in the the carbon arc in water like you do in the microwave, since in the carbon arc in water, you get the plasma always via discharge and in the microwave you need the lead to span the standing waves to start the plasma effectively.

            So what I meant was “Additionally, this [the questions surrounding a graphite pencil ‘lead’ elemental composition] does not occur in carbon arc in water”

  • Bob Greenyer

    Here is the FULL SEM images and EDX data from todays session – Enjoy!

    Love to see what you can do with it guys – off to do an audio recording

    https://drive.google.com/open?id=0Bz7lTfqkED9WRW1BMDZWNzltYU0

    Looking forward to running some certified pure Carbon

    • TOUSSAINT francois

      Congratulations ! to MFMP and Dr. Egely

      • Bob Greenyer

        And congratulations to all those that helped support the reactors construction and the analysis.

  • Gerard McEk

    This is astonishing work Bob! Congratulations to MFMP and Dr. Egely. Very, very important step forward. Do you have any idea of the quality of the used ‘charcoal’ or did you pick it from somewhere on the street? 😉

    • Bob Greenyer

      IMPO, this is same same as

      e- P e-, Negaton, Magnon, H-, Cooper Pair + p

      only the charge cluster is bigger and the entrained nuclei is whatever the CNO / Mg / Al etc combination is that is fusing.

      The Dusty plasma creates electrons and ions and the carbon is key

      • Gerard McEk

        According to the Star Dust video, the plasma is created in a resonator where due too multiple resonances a vast power amplification is reached, which exceeds that of the hadron collider. So it seems HOT fusion to me.
        Did you measure radiation outside the reactor?

        • Bob Greenyer

          I got my radiation monitor on my return. I did test the ash – and it shows nothing.

          This is, IMPO, charge cluster driven fusion – the extreme V/cm static field is set up between suspended highly charged polarised carbon particles – and the microwaves are their. The fact that you can split the electrons from the various nuclei is a winner too – all, this is what happens in the corona of a sun, or a NOVA, hence, the name.

  • Andreas Moraitis

    Was there hydrogen involved (cannot watch videos at the moment, sorry)?

    • Bob Greenyer

      Comes from water in the air

      • Andreas Moraitis

        A test without any possible hydrogen source might be informative. Since every experiment in the ‘LENR’ field seems to have used hydrogen in one or another form, a positive result would be the maximum surprise.

        • Bob Greenyer

          The ‘Super NOVA’ allows for controlled gasses and vacuum – that is a lot more work.

        • Bob Greenyer

          Egely did that in the past – I will have to touch base with him on the outcome.

  • georgehants

    Wonderful, hope it is all confirmed and Thank You Frank for allowing such advanced work to be published on ECW, there are some here continually complaining if asked to follow any Research beyond a steam-engine.

    • Bob Greenyer

      Thanks George, I do want to see it again with Pure, verified Carbon. I have some and will verify by EDX next week – then we will need to wait for a few weeks for the extra cooling, remote control etc to be added to the ‘Basic NOVA’ before it is more practical to use.

  • invient

    If you run it longer or can force certain branching paths toward gold/palladium or other expensive elements, could MFMP use the technology to self fund?

    I remember watching an earlier video saying Egely could produce gold, and that he got shut down as soon as his funders realized he could… One question I always have with these technologies, is if an inventor can produce gold or a high COP device, why can’t they use it to fund themselves (in the case of Egely, produce enough gold to sell on the market, or a high COP device, sell the energy)… As far as I can tell, they get shut down before they can, or it is simply too impractical to negotiate selling energy direct instead of through a utility or setting up a uncertified device inside a production facility.

    Do noble gases also react in a NOVA-like reactor? If nitrogen is replaced with xenon and carbon is forced to react with itself and oxygen, then palladium should be reached in six branching reactions…

    • Bob Greenyer

      George was tasked with producing Palladium, something that forms an alloy that is super good at storing the energy. After he demonstrated it, I am told that, whilst he was on holiday, his ‘investors’ took the lab, his own tools and computers – everything.

      I will explain how, IMPO, you can force it – but I think a variant of Suhas Ralkar’s foil processor will be more effective – otherwise you will just end up with one element, mostly.

  • Bob Greenyer

    I want to say that I really had FUN with the ‘Basic NOVA’ reactor on Sunday, my daughter, who was my founding motivation to go on this journey was there to witness it being fired up and when particles in the ash responded to the magnet, she thought it was so cool.

    Today, I hope, is an indication that just maybe, Dr. Egely’s multi-decade journey will bear fruit – it was just wonderful to see those Ohsawa products pop up, even the Phosphorous that Dr. Egely said he had only seen rarely. His descriptions of how the Plasma worked and how the metals fell out of the hot zone were represented in the ash – and having the opportunity to witness this most replicated work end to end was a real honour. FULL credit to Dr. Egely for agreeing to work with the MFMP and thankyou to the Swiss ‘Investors’ that tried to destroy the technology, without that attempt to quash it, our opportunity as a community might never have arisen.

    I must thank the crowd for their unwavering desire to see this technology made open. If the pure carbon we have (I will certify the electrodes I have on Tuesday) delivers the same results in a few weeks time, I will look back on this week as one of the best of my life.

    • Max Nozin

      Does Dr.E expect pure C to work? Remember you said that one of the great italians wispered to you that you may want to mix potassium in?
      Does just sheer percent of iron alone speak for it?
      Of course sceptics would say that Bob and Dr.E did not remove all the piercings but why would you care?
      Once again, congrats Bob and Gyorgy!

      • Bob Greenyer

        He has used carbon moderator bricks made for nuclear reactors, the best carbon you can get.

        Personally I think having some potassium in there will accelerate the process – due to its low first ionisation energy.

        • Zephir

          Carbon rods for spectrophotometers are way purer, especially with the respect to content of iron

          https://www.tedpella.com/carbon_html/carbon-rods-shapers.htm

          • Bob Greenyer

            That is what I have which was given to me on Sunday by Dr. Egely, I will test them for their purity on Tuesday, you can see me playing with one in this video showing its diamagnetic property.

            https://youtu.be/Hu6IdnABLOQ

          • Zephir
          • Bob Greenyer

            I do like the 2ppm carbon powder though – that might be a good route to go down to ensure known purity. Thanks for the pointer.

          • Zephir

            I had underwater carbon arc fusion on mind, for which the carbon dust is unusable.

          • Bob Greenyer

            Better approach for the basic reaction – takes a few questions out of the equation.

      • Goodrice

        It seemingly also works with pure graphite rods and arc discharge in water:
        http://www.ans.org/pubs/journals/fst/a_30331

        Actually, I’m also trying this right now with improvised equipment with some positive effect.

        • Bob Greenyer

          Yes, that is one of the original Ohsawa variations

          Good luck!

          • Goodrice

            (I didn’t read the second part of the comment until much later on)

            The positive effect I’m referring about is the replication of the magnetic graphite effect (to some extent), although there are already reports of this in the mainstream literature.

            I have no idea of the COP; I couldn’t have measured it with the very crude way I conducted the experiment.

            I think there could be iron because after I put the graphite in an acid solution (slightly heated), the solution became yellowish, which could mean that some has dissolved in it. However the experiment is too crude to tell for sure. It could be contamination of some sort.

            Anybody with equal or better equipment than I have could try to replicate the experiment. The bar is very very low.

            I’ve posted a short report here: https://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/thread/5345-an-improvised-quick-carbon-arc-experiment/

          • Bob Greenyer

            Thanks.

            I will produce some animated gifs from the elemental distribution data.

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  • Pixel Cube

    Very nice. I’m looking forward to the follow-up.

  • georgehants

    Morning Bob, just take a moment to confirm to those that are not aware that FTL communication is a proven Fact and say, it will be great to see all those Wonderful scientists, the Alchemists, being proven correct after the arrogant beating they have taken for years from the scientific holy masters.
    ———–
    PhysOrg
    Bell Prize goes to scientists who proved ‘spooky’ quantum entanglement is real
    A trio of scientists who defied Einstein by proving the nonlocal nature
    of quantum entanglement will be honoured with the John Stewart Bell
    Prize from the University of Toronto (U of T). The prize recognizes the
    most significant recent achievements in the world in quantum mechanics
    and is considered by many to be the top international award in the
    field.
    The recipients each led separate experiments in 2015 that showed two
    particles so distant from one another that no signal could connect them
    even at the speed of light nevertheless possessed an invisible and
    instantaneous connection. They are:
    Read more at: https://phys.org/news/2017-08-bell-prize-scientists-spooky-quantum.html#jCp

    • Bob Greenyer

      Morning George, thanks for the tip off

      There is so much more than this – it is a complete crime, that which has been going on.

  • Bob Greenyer

    Hey guys, who has had experience with CPU/GPU water / cryo cooling units – to maximise the run time of NOVA we need a MUCH better cooling system for the magnetron. Any experience notes here please.

    • Ophelia Rump
      • Bob Greenyer

        Thanks

    • US_Citizen71

      You will likely need 4 or more CPU coolers, CPU use less than 50W on average even the overclocked ones are under 100W.

      • Bob Greenyer

        What about GPU coolers?

        • TOUSSAINT francois
          • Bob Greenyer

            I see there is some coherence emerging

        • US_Citizen71

          Artefact is correct you can use them on CPUs rated higher, but the all in one ready to go systems really are not designed for that workout. GPU/CPU coolers are essentially the same thing, the differentiation is the mount to the chips. You can build a custom system easy enough by chaining more than one mount in series or parallel with multiple radiators even. After looking at your image below you could likely get away with two mounts, one on either side of the waveguide/heat exchanger, as long as the magnetron is mounted in box with fans providing air cooling as well. Here is a link to pieces and parts for custom building: https://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=liquid+cooling&ignorear=0&N=100008008&isNodeId=1

          • Bob Greenyer

            Hi, yes – I was thinking along the same lines – however, Dr. Egely has written to me today to say that the cooling has been very much improved, so we may be able to run for significantly longer. He said that he feels that the data so far is not significant since during his experience he only really got the large amount of transmutation after around 3 mins and we only had this running for about 2.

      • artefact

        I read of overclockers that have 200W and cooled it down to 57C. That is of course not enought for the reactor.
        I think the best would be to have a drum of water instead of a radiator.

  • Zephir

    Chemistry dirty secret: simple alchemy of converting carbon into iron

    http://amasci.com/freenrg/carbiron.html
    http://i.imgur.com/UftqcoV.gif

    The presence of iron could be proved with peroxide and thiocyanate

    http://www.chem.uiuc.edu/chem103/equilibrium/iron.htm

  • Bob Greenyer

    The reason we must test with certified pure carbon is that wood does contain 5 – 7% potassium, 1.5 – 2% phosphorus. Also
    they contain 25 to 50 percent calcium compounds.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/93dc6a6f4baa8d5642baae421af5a54970fd6150553cc58011c2759de86bd641.png

    And from this reference,

    https://conservancy.umn.edu/bitstream/handle/11299/149252/Annals%20-%20Mayer%20and%20Gorham%201951.pdf?sequence=1

    woods under this study have little Fe in them and the Fe is often lower than the Mn or not massively different.

    This does explain where the non-Ohsawa predicted Mn may have come from and provides and this in turn provides an indication as to the maximum expected amount of natural Fe to expect.

    Overall, as I say repeatedly in the videos, my final verdict will come when we get to see the data from a pure carbon run.

  • Bob Greenyer

    From link Zephir shared – NOTE: We will be using spectrograph carbons in the official testing

    Update 6/2001: using high-purity
    “spectrograph carbons” does not eliminate the magnetic grains produced by
    the arc. Dan Y. in Seattle found some pure carbon rods that analyze to a
    couple of ppm of silicon and manganese, but no iron. Grinding up this
    carbon does not produce any grains which are attracted by a supermagnet.
    However, after arcing at about 8 amps in air, some tiny magnetic particles
    are found mixed
    with the carbon detrius which falls from the electrodes. Could these
    magnetic grains be a paramagnetic compound of carbon, nitrogen, and/or
    oxygen? We must repeat the experiment in a He or Ar atmosphere!

    To produce an arc, I jammed the carbons into slightly small holes drilled
    in brass blocks, then wired them in series with a 1200W 120V electric
    heater.
    Also, I wrapped my NIB magnets in white rubber cut from a toy balloon.
    This produces a
    very clean surface, and any magnetic grains which it picks up can be
    easily seen with a hand lens.

    http://amasci.com/freenrg/carbiron.html

    • Axil Axil

      The use of a strong magnet will attract paramagnetic as well as ferromagnetic elements to the white surface but it will also push away the diamagnetic elements like carbon and copper. Antiferromagnetic elements like chromium won’t respond to the magnet at all. The magnet will work to select a class of elements over others. Is that your intent?

  • Bob Greenyer

    Well, don’t know precisely, but typically a 1100W unit gives about 700W in MW and 400 in thermal losses, in addition that thermal loss is across the whole system. This device needs at least 500W of cooling on the Magnetron.

    Max temperature is 110ºC as said here (5m47s) and so best to run hot for cooling efficiency, but a good margin under that to give longer life.
    https://youtu.be/Ql7bvdF2-1M?t=5m47s

    Don’t know what coolant is best, however, the biggest challenge is where to mount to the magnetron and how – or perhaps it would be better to have a heat exchanger with the cooler mounted to it so that it makes cool air to be sucked though the magnetrons on cooling fins?

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1fbfdac00e0406e946aec013d2627b623ce39dac8d44a965de11ab4cf5ba9420.png

    • US_Citizen71

      Mount it in a closed box with the CPU coolers attached and the hoses running to the outside. Then mount two 120mm fans in a push pull configuration on opposite ends of the box.

      • Bob Greenyer

        sounds like a plan.

  • Zephir

    Carbon dust experiments are very easy to improvise – Egely routinely does it with microwave oven during his public lectures. But the interpretation of results without at least trivial chemical analysis is disputable: the ferromagnetism of annealed graphite is known for years and it cannot serve as a proof of LENR by itself (1, 2, 3…)

    • Bob Greenyer

      Hence why I took the opportunity to EDX the ash and will produce a verified purity sample of carbon for future runs.

      There was definitely Iron coming out of that test, and apparently silicon. Now it remains to be confirmed if pure carbon will deliver the same result as others have claimed this reaction can do.

      I have in my mind the carbon arc ferro-silicon furnace data that Mahadevan Srinivasan presented at ICCF20, where over a 6 week period, they produced an average of 4 tonnes of excess metal per day, 3 tonnes of excess Silicon (comes from C+O according to Ohsawa and the largest product in the Sanitilli reactors) and 1 tonne of excess Iron.

      https://youtu.be/vgr4aoZZ4fI

      • Andreas Moraitis

        What if that ‚silicon’ was actually a compound (magnetically bound C+O nuclei – you did mention Santilli)? If so, we had no nuclear fusion (or transmutation), but a ‘neochemical’ (or at least ‘neo-something’) process. To me, this would look much more interesting than a genuine nuclear reaction (and we could forget the problems of the Coulomb barrier and the missing radiation signatures).

        • Bob Greenyer

          I get the sense that Santilli was just trying to avoid ‘fusion’ to get his patents passed OR he wanted to avoid the exact same observations by Ohsawa that would render his re-discovery unpatentable.

          • Andreas Moraitis

            Maybe. He also renamed his „Thunder Fusion“ company into „Thunder Energies“ some years ago.

          • Andreas Moraitis

            BTW he needs his “magnecule” concept anyway to explain his ‘clustered’ hydrogen species (which can obviously not be described as a result of nuclear fusion).

          • Bob Greenyer

            And thunder comes from lightening – and Kenneth Shoulders says Lightening is just charge clusters.

          • Andreas Moraitis

            Language is different from the reality that it tries to describe, thus one should not overrate linguistic features. There are whole libraries full of philosophical treatises about this issue.

            Clusters of (optionally charged) particles would make sense, but ‘clusters of charges’? I do not see how this could be a meaningful term.

          • Bob Greenyer
  • Bob Greenyer

    For those doing carbon arc experiments, if we accept Ohsawa:

    In water I would expect more Silicon
    In air, I would expect more Iron

    • Goodrice

      Unfortunately I realized that Si, Fe, Al, are the main impurities used in pencil leads (put by the manufacturer to give different gradations), so I cannot draw any conclusion from my improvised experiments. The Fe was probably already present in my case:

      https://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/1107/1107.1662.pdf (Table.2/page 7 for XRF analysis)

      • Bob Greenyer

        When I presented that table to Dr. Egely many moons ago, he said that the weight of Fe alone exceeded the entire weight of the pencil lead.

        I think people are looking at this the wrong way round, something I shall expand on later as it requires a lot of step wise understanding.

        If you want, I can send you some of our spectrographic electrodes, I will be certifying them as pure (or not) on Tuesday – but they should be, since they would be useless otherwise for their primary purpose. Impurities are normally around 2ppm.

        • Goodrice

          I was strictly referring to my simple experiments with ordinary pencil leads. While I knew already that there were likely impurities, I wasn’t previously aware that clays are actually a rather significant portion of their composition. So on this regard tests using these materials are inconclusive and cannot be used to prove in a home-made fashion whether transmutation actually takes place.

          • Bob Greenyer

            And so I offer you some certified pure carbon with which to test.

          • Goodrice

            Due to the comment being mostly copy-pasted from another made in reply to another user I misread and thought you were referring to sending analysis of the carbon samples you plan to use for future NOVA tests (e.g. to prove that no iron will be contained therein).

            Tests with better samples in my premises would deserve far better equipment than I have and/or am willing to invest on. These ones were intended to be zero-budget experiments with what I already had at disposal.

  • Bob Greenyer

    can you point to a reference?

  • Bob Greenyer

    Hi Nick,

    Thanks

    Given the use of pencil lead and wood, most if not all of the elements in the analysis were in there in some concentration. Of course with other studies that have used just pure carbon in air and water this is not the case.

    When I raised this with Dr. Egely last year, he said that there was more iron in the ash typically than the entire weight of the pencil lead used.

    Actually, I think people are looking at this the wrong way – more on that later!

  • georgehants

    Morning Bob, with the work you are doing on transmutation, do you feel that the results you are getting are leading to MFMP being able to publish a report that others can follow to confirm your findings.
    In other words how confident are you that soon you can shout EUREKA.

    • Bob Greenyer

      I think that with pure carbon, and after a few cycles, we will be in a much better position to call it. However, I have a sneaky suspicion that people are thinking about this wrong way, time and some hard work, will tell.

      Of course all will be published.

      • Ophelia Rump

        Please do test a control sample under the same conditions without LENR. By that I mean burn it to ash in an equivalent atmosphere and container materials and evaluate the ash for comparison.

        • Bob Greenyer

          I will look to heat the carbon in air

          • Ophelia Rump

            I don’t think that would serve any purpose. You will get oxidation resultants and a different set of contaminants. Apples and Oranges.

          • Bob Greenyer

            The NOVA is loaded in air and operates in air

  • Bob Greenyer

    HAHA – that is a little extreme – looking for something more effective and ideally quieter.

  • Bob Greenyer

    It would be desirable to have a sealed off the shelf solution. Predictability is important here.

  • Bob Greenyer

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  • Bob Greenyer

    Hi Peter, Thanks for the tip

    The ‘Super NOVA’ does this according to Dr. Egely – I think we need to categorically prove the basic reactions before moving forward.

  • Bob Greenyer

    Hi Peter, Another great tip. Well, I will be able to do EDX on the graphite we have Tuesday – so we can start with this. If the whole thing delivers then we could look to certify other sources such as this one you suggest.

  • Bob Greenyer

    I think Dr. Egely has solved the cooling problem to allow the NOVA Basic to run long enough to perform the transmutations.

  • Bob Greenyer

    This is a bot, it is re-posting ‘GoodRice’s’ comments. 5th I have seen.

  • Warthog

    I fail to see how carbonized coconut shells would exhibit any superior purity….they should contain all the elements metabolized by the coconut palm. For pure carbon you need carbon rods specifically made for use in arc/spark Atomic Emission Spectrometers. THOSE “are” as pure as they can be made, and great pains are taken to see that they remain so.

    • Bob Greenyer

      And those are the type we will be using and further – I will be buying a Petle and Mortar, grinding a few up and then testing the ground carbon via EDX tomorrow, which will form the foundation of the test.

  • Lou Pagnucco

    Possibly of interest is the relatively recent discovery of superballistic current in graphene – As discussed in the summaries at —
    “Experiments confirm theory of “superballistic” electron flow”
    http://news.mit.edu/2017/experiments-confirm-theory-superballistic-electron-flow-0824
    “Electrons in Graphene can become superballistic which start a new wave of physics”
    https://www.nextbigfuture.com/2017/08/electrons-in-graphene-can-become-superballistic-which-start-a-new-wave-of-physics.html
    “Confirmed: Electrons Flowing Like Liquid in Graphene Are Insanely Superconductive”
    https://www.sciencealert.com/confirmed-electrons-just-smashed-a-fundamental-speed-limit
    “Superballistic flow of viscous electron fluid through graphene constrictions”
    http://www.nature.com/nphys/journal/vaop/ncurrent/full/nphys4240.html
    I believe that with correct chemical catalysts, graphene can form in microwave plasmas – possibly allowing extremely intense transient magnetic fields/pinches to form. Just an improbable speculation.

    • georgehants

      Lou, good link, thank you, it always makes me laugh as all these “impossible” discoveries are made by genuine scientists, when for many years and still even now, most establishment educated scientists are quite convinced that they “know” what is and what is not possible.
      70 years of closed-minded half-wits preaching that their god tells them what is possible and destroying every genuine scientist that ever tries to move outside of the holy teachings.
      Perhaps we are at last on the mend and these religious deniers will be put out to grass at last.
      A new education system encouraging our brilliant young students to actually think.
      ———–
      It’s time for science to move on from materialism
      https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/jan/28/science-move-away-materialism-sheldrake

  • Warthog

    After thinking a bit, I believe you may be confusing relative freedom from ORGANIC impurities (benzene, chloroform, etc. and other molecules of interest in trace/pollution analysis) with INORGANIC impurities (trace elements). Carbonized coconut shells are often used to capture/filter organic compounds from air prior to desorbing them into a measurement device (GC, MS, etc.). For freedom from inorganic impurities in trace analysis, 99.9% is grossly contaminated. Arc/spark carbon or semiconductor grade carbon are required.

  • Peter Mobberley

    Bob is using EDX for analysis. EDX sensitivity is typically 0.5 atomic% or 0.1 atomic% at best ,
    depending on the instrument.
    So ppm purity is not necessary because EDX won’t see it.
    Pete.

    • Bob Greenyer

      This one is a good one. Still, need to check.

  • Bob Greenyer

    NOVA – Carbon Crushing and Analysis

    Surprisingly compulsive video to watch!

    https://youtu.be/O1UrNl-5a4A

    • Omega Z

      Well it is obviously contaminated now with ceramic materials.

      Now pulverize the ceramic for analysis so you can sort it out.

      • Bob Greenyer

        Er… but but, there was no hint of the ceramic material in the ground carbon tested and pretty much the whole FOV was sampled.

        • Omega Z

          Pretty sure I saw some #102 egg shell white in there. 🙂

    • Goodrice

      Completely unrelated with the video, but could you measure the cold DC resistance (from top to bottom) of one of these electrodes, in addition to measuring their overall length and diameter?

      • Bob Greenyer

        Yes – will do that at the earliest opportunity, of course, they are designed for discharges.

        • Goodrice

          On a second thought, they look like 7x40mm rods, which means they will have a resistance along their length in the order of 0.05 Ohm or less, which standard multimeters wouldn’t be able to measure. To generate arc discharges with these, equipment similar to a welding machine would be probably needed.

          • Bob Greenyer

            Cheap lead acid car batteries should do it, that is what Quantum Rabbit used in early tests.

          • Goodrice

            Even without a welding machine, at these levels welding gear and a suitable testing environment would still be needed: at each electrode strike large luminous sparks would be generated together with significant amounts of soot if done in air or steam production / explosions if done under water. With such low-resistance electrodes and no current limiting circuit it would be like shorting the battery, for all intents and purposes.

            I didn’t know about QuantumRabbit. It looks like they used (used to use?) powders; in my tests I was doing something slightly different.

            http://newenergytimes.com/v2/news/2008/NET28.shtml#rabbit

            http://newenergytimes.com/v2/news/2008/28img/Esko-CA-Bench.jpg

          • Bob Greenyer

            They used carbon crucible and carbon rod – the crucible would collect the ejectiles (mostly)

  • Bob Greenyer

    As people consider trying George Ohsawa reactions under water, it is good to understand just how amazing ‘water’ is.

    Look at this from 10m35s especially.

    https://youtu.be/KN3PBFxV3Xw?t=10m35s

  • Bob Greenyer
    • Russell K

      Bob, where can I learn about this NOVA reactor, everything I see are slivers of information scattered around, is there a dedicated webpage about it and principals involved?

      Thanks

    • Charlie tapp

      Hi bob don’t know the exacts but I do high voltage line work and recently had a bad lightning strike on a 21 thousand volt power line. It completely blew the Lightning arrester to pieces. No damage other than that thankfully. But I keep everything and found the stack pieces of what I am pretty sure is silicon carbide . It’s been a couple weeks since the incident and today I happened to be looking at it in the sunlight and noticed all the bubbles on the side from heat I guess they are to the side of the actual flash over path which is very obvious from all the sintering looking a lot like steel after cutting with torch. Anyway everywhere there is a bubble it has turned green like copper does when it oxidizes. May want to try some silicon carbide in nova and look for transmutation to copper don’t know if that is even possible but I can’t think why else those bubbles have green oxidation. Worth a try. You can probably ask a line crew somewhere for an old lightning arrester to play with if not let me know I will send this one in.

      • Bob Greenyer

        When we have the reactor to do more tests with, hopefully it will be robust enough to allow many tests, Silicon Carbide is tough – the particles need to be small enough to loft into the plasma.

  • Bob Greenyer

    Thanks Jake, for our first tests, we will use the spectrographic carbon as we have confirmed that it is, basically, 100% pure carbon.

    We may purchase some spectrographic braided carbon ribbon for the plasma igniter to remove any questions surrounding that.

  • sam
  • Bob Greenyer

    Yes – seen it before

  • Bob Greenyer

    Thanks invient