Brilliant Light Power Update, Q1 2018

Thanks to Mats Lewan for posting this link to Brilliant Light Power’s Q1 2018 update:

A few points from the documents:

  • “We are working on cost projections and timelines to achieve prototypes of thermal and electrical SunCells® that demonstrate an obvious commercial viability.”
  • They include photos of a carbon domed SunCell® for PV conversion
  • They report a partner named Columbia Tech has been having problems with melting silver to operate the SunCell®, and they have decided to make a change by instead using gallium which has a lower melting point.
  • They are planning to develop a new all-ceramic SunCell® which the consider to have many advantages over the current carbon model.
  • Images of “Novel Hydrino Compounds” are included.
  • “One goal is to prove our power source to the world in the near term through power measurements, identification of the hydrino products of the reaction, and engineered power systems”
  • Gerard McEk

    I thought it was near to ready

    • Mylan

      It’s similar to hot fusion. Just that it’s always 2 years away instead of 30. 😉

    • Monty

      With Randell Mills it is always near to ready when an investor is near 😉
      I would love to see one being tested by MFMP for example

      • Bob Greenyer

        Like that is going to happen – the only video ever taken down off the MFMP YouTube channel was because of BrLP – I believe the reason may have been it was confusing their investors.

  • Monty

    Looking forward to read this report by an “expert”. Although i have my doubts it will be conclusive in any way…

  • US_Citizen71

    “they think the fastest way to commercialization is the MHD technology” – Gee it was only a short 18 months ago that photovoltaic cells were the fastest way to commercialization. I guess Mills finally discovered that the heat generated doesn’t just magically disappear when encased in photovoltaic cells. Who knew.

    • Bob Greenyer

      I think they have missed the boat.

  • Bob Greenyer

    They better hurry up!

    Sometimes it is difficult to know how to build something when you believe it works in a way that it doesn’t, MFMP has sufferred this over the years.

    • artefact

      I imagine the PV cells degrades over time and they have not seen such a thing before.

      • Omega Z

        Those Carbon-Domed SunCell’s do not look as if they would provide enough PV capacity to be of much use. Thus, Mill’s returning his attention to MHD technology which is also several years away from being practical.

        • Bob Greenyer

          The actual reaction, not whatever Mills thinks it is, would have the carbon for breakfast, dinner and tea.

  • Bob Greenyer

    Problem with Carbon is, it can be conductive, to actually contain what is REALLY going on, you need a ceramic.

  • blanco69

    Ah yes. Just like Mr R….. We have the Ecat, the Greek Cat, Shipping Container Cat, Hot Cat, Hotter Cat, Hotest Cat, Cat with Mouse, Cat where you work out your energy bills over a year to determine if it works cat, Quark Cat, Jet Pack Cat, QX Cat. The whole time, definitive proof escapes us when we all know that 1 week after the first presentation in 2011 we could have determined scientific proof. Looking forward to reading about the Pole Cat, the Fat Cat, the Alley Cat, the Cold Cat and the Stray Cat.

  • Dr. Mike

    The news in this report is not good! It looks like BLP is incurring problems in their CPV SunCell and will now be focusing on MHD technology, surely another two year development? On the other hand it would be a huge success if BLP could replace the graphite dome with a ceramic that could operate in air rather than a pressurized inert atmosphere. However, I foresee problems with a ceramic. Will it be strong enough at high temperatures to withstand the internal high pressures? What thickness of ceramic will be needed? Will the thermal conductivity of the ceramic be high enough to support a high external temperature without the inner ceramic wall temperature getting too high?
    More information will be needed on the MHD design before anyone might be able to estimate a reasonable time needed to develop a prototype.

    • TVulgaris

      Wasn’t MHD the end-goal power system about 5 years ago? The basic reactor design was entirely different then, IIRC, something more like an automated spot-welding station- and it’s mode of operation seemed perfectly suited to MHD, with cyclic sharp spikes of energy production.

      • Omega Z

        ->”Wasn’t MHD the end-goal power system about 5 years ago?”

        Yes, However, MHD is(Last I Checked) primarily in the R&D stages and nothing of practical use is available.

    • IMO BLP never demonstrated working calorimetry and reliable energy yield calculation – so they found finally with amazement, they actually produce no energy…

  • Bob Greenyer

    Which is why I find it so amazing that he has NOT seen certain things.

  • /* they have decided to make a change by instead using gallium which has a lower melting point. */

    So, is this final end of Mill’s technobabble about “silver catalyst”?

    • tlp

      Silver is not catalyst, water is catalyst. So silver can be replaced with another similar metal, with suitable boiling point, good electrical conductivity.

      • Water is consumed for hydrino production, so it’s fuel. The silver was always claimed to be a catalyst by Randell Mills (I didn’t believe it, but this is how it was always presented). Gallium is not similar to silver at all by its chemical reactivity.

        • tlp

          Hydrogen is consumed, it can be taken from water, but not nesessarily. Water is catalyst, silver cannot be catalyst.

          • There is no other source of hydrogen in SunCell reactor, than the water. So that the water cannot serve as a catalyst, because it will be gradually consumed. With compare to it, the silver isn’t consumed within SunCell reactor – yet it was claimed to be substantial for reaction = i.e. catalyst.

            In Mills theory the BLP’s process is from electrons, of free monatomic hydrogen atoms, releasing quantized packets of light taking the electrons below ground state and triggered by particle collisions with these H electrons when a catalyst with a particular atomic structure (in the current tests it is silver) is used within his catalysis process. This process causes energy from the electron to be picked up by a catalyst atom which very quickly releases that energy *as light* and the catalyst (silver) then returns to its natural state.

          • tlp

            There is 3% hydrogen 97% argon gas environment in SunCell, actually no water at all. Water molecules are formed from an oxcide that is mixed with silver, and hydrogen. Then that nascent water molecule acts as catalyst to convert atomic hydrogen to hydrino(1/4).
            There are several possible hydrino catalysts, water is one, but silver is not.

          • Water is the source of hydrogen, which serves as a fuel in hydrino process. Thus, silver cannot be a fuel. Once it’s not a fuel but still involved in reaction, then it’s a catalyst – there is no other option.

          • tlp

            Wrong again. Hydrogen is the source of hydrogen, and hydrogen is the fuel. Nascent water molecule is catalyst, that molecule is shortly constructed from Oxygen from an oxcide mixed with a molten metal, and hydrogen. Hydrogen is injected to the reaction, hydrinos are leaking away, Oxygen is recycled, as is the molten metal. Still neither Oxygen nor that molten metal are not hydrino reaction catalysts, water is the catalyst in SunCell hydrino reaction. Molten metal can be silver or gallium or copper or some mixture with proper melting and boiling points and conductivity.

          • Below is the text from Brett Holverstott’s book where he states that
            there is a long list of catalysts that can trigger the transition and
            explains why each catalyst works and how.

            ************************ Per Brett Holverstott …..

            New energy is the holy grail of invention, and Mills lost focus on his
            other activities to dedicate himself full–time to the hydrino research.

            He started by making a list of atomic catalysts that could absorb the
            required amount of energy from the hydrogen atom, 27.2 eV. The catalyst, as the receiver, must be able to expel the energy it absorbs, perhaps by breaking off (ionizing) electrons or breaking molecular bonds; the ionized electrons would carry off the energy kinetically. So any ionization that occurred at (or close to) integer multiples of 27.2 could potentially serve as the catalyst. The list was long: many of the atoms in the periodic table could be catalysts. Lithium, twice ionized, could catalyze a transition to an H(1/4) hydrino; beryllium, twice ionized, could catalyze a transition to an H(1/2); potassium, thrice ionized, could catalyze a transition to an H(1/4). Ions could also serve: a previously ionized helium ion (He+), if it ionizes again, could catalyze a transition to an H(1/3) hydrino.

            Catalyst m
            He+ → He2+ 2
            Rb → Rb7+ 14
            Li → Li2+ 3
            Rb → Rb8+ 14
            Be → Be2+ 1
            Sr → Sr5+ 7
            Na+ → Na4+ 8
            Sr+ → Sr3+ 7
            Ar+ → Ar2+ 1
            Nb → Nb5+ 5
            K → K3+ 3
            Mo → Mo6+ 8
            2K+ → K + K2+ 1
            Mo → Mo8+ 18
            Ca → Ca4+ 5
            Mo2+ → Mo3+ 1
            Ti → Ti5+ 7
            Mo4+ → Mo5+ 2
            V → V5+ 6
            Pd → Pd2+ 1
            Cr → Cr3+ 2
            In → In3+ 2
            Mn → Mn4+ 4
            Sn → Sn5+ 6
            Fe → Fe3+ 2
            Te → Te2+ 1
            Fe → Fe4+ 4
            Te → Te3+ 2
            Fe3+ → Fe4+ 2
            2Ba2+ → Ba++Ba3+ 1
            Co → Co4+ 4
            Cs → Cs2+ 1
            Co → Co5+ 7
            Ce → Ce5+ 5
            Ni → Ni5+ 7
            Ce → Ce6+ 8
            Ni → Ni6+ 11
            Pr → Pr5+ 5
            Cu → Cu2+ 1
            Sm → Sm4+ 3
            Zn → Zn2+ 1
            Gd → Gd4+ 3
            Zn → Zn8+ 23
            Dy → Dy4+ 3
            As → As6+ 11

            Atomic catalysts capable of undergoing resonant absorption of approximately m * 27.2 eV of energy from a hydrogen atom to produce an H(1/(p+m)) hydrino. For instance, an H(1/1) hydrogen atom (where p = 1) may undergo a transition to an H(1/4) hydrino by transferring 3 * 27.2 eV to a potassium atom, which undergoes ionization to produce K3+. The catalyst may later recover its electrons, and is unchanged in the overall reaction.

            Even molecules may serve as catalysts. If gas–phase sodium hydride (NaH) breaks apart, and ionizes one of the sodium atom’s electrons, the reaction could allow a transition to an H(1/3) hydrino. And a water molecule, if it breaks up and ionizes the oxygen, can allow a transition to an H(1/4) hydrino (a reaction which will become important later on). After inducing the hydrino transition, the catalyst is then free to recapture its electrons or reform its bonds later on, so overall it remains unchanged. The only permanent change (a loss of energy) is within the hydrogen atom itself. Once the catalyst absorbs the necessary energy, the electron orbit in
            hydrogen is made unstable, and it can then shrink, emitting a photon in the process, to form a hydrino. The hydrogen is permanently altered, forming an atom hitherto unexplored by science. Mills was still working out of Farrell’s lab. He had arrived at a list of catalysts, but not yet begun experiments, when news broke out from the University of Utah that two electrochemists were unveiling a new major energy source of their own.


            So in the moment can not agree to the simplified statement “the catalyst is water” as was originally posted by tlp. He’s corrected again and again by different posters, yet he’s insisting on his BS – why?

          • tlp

            Cannot you read? “And a water molecule, if it breaks up and ionizes the oxygen, can allow a transition to an H(1/4) hydrino (a reaction which will become important later on).”

            And silver is not on that list above.

        • Andreas Moraitis

          We should not forget the oxygen from the water, which is (according to Mills) a suitable catalyst.

          • tlp

            Not oxygen, but nascent water molecule.

          • Andreas Moraitis

            You are right about nascent H2O, but oxygen could do it as well:

            „O2 may serve as a catalyst or a source of a catalyst. The bond energy of the oxygen molecule is 5.165 eV, and the first, the second, and third ionization energies of an oxygen atom are 13.61806 eV, 35.11730 eV, and 54.9355 eV, respectively. The reactions O2 -> O + O2+, O2 -> O + O3+, and 2O -> 2O+ provide a net enthalpy of about 2, 4, and 1 times E(h), respectively, and comprise catalyst reactions to form hydrino by accepting these energies from H to cause the formation of hydrinos.” (WO 2016/182699 A1, p. 27)

          • tlp

            I could not find that number patent but found this with that same quote: WO2016182600 A1

            More interesting is the first and the most important patent claim:What Is Claimed Is:
            1. …
            a) at least one source of catalyst or a catalyst comprising nascent H20; b) at least one source of H20 or H20;
            c) at least one source of atomic hydrogen or atomic hydrogen; and
            d) a molten metal;

            So silver is not specified, just a molten metal.

          • Andreas Moraitis

            Yes, the „99“ was a typo, sorry. I also think that the silver (or gallium) serves primarily as an electrode.

          • tlp

            “and a molten metal to cause the fuel to be highly conductive,”

            Silver is of course best for conductivity, but gallium is very easily molten. Still boiling point is about the same as silver.
            And gallium is less than half the price, currently. Though it is not consumable, but investment anyway.

  • cashmemorz

    Seems Mills can’t collect or use the Hydrino-Hydrate in way that will allow him to make enough of the “very energy intensive to destroy” plastics that the device itself produces.

  • Job001

    MHD is a bit sophisticated like specialized PV was, and arguably may require excess development. Liquid piston engines may be a near term solution with certain advantages. For instance, liquid piston engines are well developed, have minimal parts, and the liquid metal stream through the liquid piston engine could be easily filtered to eliminate problematic oxide or other unwanted chemistry buildups.

    I find Dr Mill’s research impressive with good transparency, funding, and fairly rapid problem solving!

  • Mylan

    If investors would give money only if it was save beyond any doubt, investors would never loose money. But startup investors loose money all the time. It’s very naive to believe some person or entity can not take bad investment decissions, just because it is rich.

  • Val K

    “One impediment is that CT (Columbia Tech) has not succeeded to melt the silver.” – This sounds odd. In the previous statements from BrLP, melted silver streams driven by the electromagnetic pump was the key advance in the SunCell development. So, either BrLP did not share its know-how with CT, or this know-how does not exist.

    Using gallium instead of silver does not look like a smart idea, especially, for the ceramic “open” design because of much greater reactivity of gallium compared to silver. Additionally, the ability of gallium to penetrate into other materials can change the properties of the structural components of the SunCell.

    the whole presentation reminded me about their previous statements.

    July 2016: “BrLP anticipates having field trials in 2017 (

    July 13, 2016: “BrLP presented live demonstrations of the enormous power density and power gain by multiple methods. BrLP also presented an engineered SunCell® prototype having no moving parts that it believes is capable of producing 125 kW of electricity and is planned to be launched for initial commercialization in 2017.” (

    October 28, 2016: “…SunCell could be available for commercial use by the end of 2017” (

    February 27, 2017: “As of now the new power source unit does not have a set price, but the Brilliant Light Power team says it is expected to be on the market for commercial use by next Spring. ” (

    March 13, 2017 “Brilliant Light is planning to have these devices ready for testing at cooperating companies by the second half of this year with units ready for commercial installation at customer locations in 2018.” (

    February 6, 2018: Still no prototype to start commercialization with. No time line is given. But it sounds like there is a lot of development to be done.

    Looks like it is time to buy another bucket of popcorn.


    “One goal is to prove our power source to the world in the
    near term through power measurements, identification of
    the hydrino products of the reaction, and engineered
    power systems. ”

    I think this is very important. Achieving this goal will overweight all past delays and unfulfilled promises.

    • PhysicsForDummies

      Here is a joke I heard.

      Knock, knock.
      Who’s There?
      E-cat 1MW, Sun Cell PV and “Red Pill”.
      E-cat 1MW, Sun Cell PV and “Red Pill” who?

      (tic-tock, tic-tock)
      Sorry, they left for some strange reason.
      But QX, MHD, and “O day” are coming tomorrow, and boy are they so much better!

      I find this BrLP news depressing. At this point, if it really works, he should concentrate on getting some of this mystical hydrino material to a reputable lab for independent verification. And can’t he just release a device so that the “unique” spectrum can be analyzed and verified? I know, you will say he already did this. Well do it again with impartial labs or universities not paid by BrLP.

      • tlp

        It is difficult to get any lab or even university to do some work for you without paying.
        But anyway, from Mills yesterday:
        “This is the first time that we have the capability to make hydrinos in a bottle at will on demand. Prior tests were performed with the gas absorbed on a surface or in a crystalline matrix and defects. We did not aggressively pursue independent analysis of the prior samples. The significance of the current advancement is a game changer, worth the wait and effort.”

        • Val K


          ***But anyway, from Mills yesterday:***

          Can you provide the source?

          • tlp


        • causal observer

          I thought at one point Miils was saying that hydrinos were dark matter and that when they were created in the SubCell reaction they kind of soaked into the earth or atmosphere.

      • Bob Greenyer

        The MFMPs total budget for the last year has been around that of a family car, so thankyou (I think) for putting our open efforts alongside very well funded operations, at least one that has a good body of full time staff.

      • cashmemorz

        The problem is not verification, but acceptance by protocol driven academia. The peers required to out check Mills’ papers are either too far and few between to make a good comparison against quantum mechanics knowledgeable ones, and outright refusal to consider that anyone could possibly achieve what Mills has achieved, and too different to be believable. Paradigm shift is too large. If you had invested most of your life to something that seems to work very well and then told there is something even better but also in a too different way, you would be very hesitant to accept that new way of doing your job, Also you could lose your job or have to redo, in a big way, the way you are doing that job and similar reasons. Human frailty in the face of being shown to have been wrong for so long, like almost a century.

        • Bob Greenyer

          After ‘O Day’ people will have an unexpected and non-mathematical way to prove that they have a system that is able to do LENR.

          • causal observer

            Like a cookbook for converting Looking For Heat components plus widely available industrial materials into highly replicatable irrefutable excess heat, or information that can be directly translated into same, without requiring non-procedurally-reproducible special mental perceptions, insights or pattern recognitions to fill in the gaps?

      • Bob Greenyer

        ‘O Day’ is every day, you will know that on ‘O Day’

  • tlp

    Heater is still the first target, as in the pdf slide 6: boiler design is done. They just need to get that molten metal flowing, that is needed also in the heater.
    I guess their engineering subcontractor just “over engineered” the design so that they could not melt the silver anymore to get the process going.
    It would be clever if it can be solved just by changing to gallium. That is probably not optimal, when you are targeting direct electricity production with MHD, as gallium is so much less conductive than silver, which means more waste heat. Of course in the heater application there is not any waste heat. But COP is perhaps lower.

    • Carl Wilson

      Gallium supply limited. As far as I know, there are NO gallium mines. My recall, faulty as it is, is that gallium comes mainly as a by product of producing lead. (My memory is from the time that the Regan administration used the idea of gallium arsenide in PV as a way to turn aside from pursuing the silicon path. And no, I’m not very interested in pursuing & updating my research on the matter.)

      • Omega Z

        Gallium isn’t found in it’s elemental state. Most gallium is produced as a byproduct of mining other metals.

        Gallium arsenide has long been considered as a replacement for silicon in computer chips as such chips would be many more times faster. However, Gallium is much more sensitive to heat. NASA once hinted of making Gallium arsenide wafers on the shuttle, but have never mentioned it since. I always suspected the U.S. military and NASA has access to them.

  • tlp

    Just look at my message down under, they have finally managed to produce hydrino hydride compounds bigger amounts.

    • Bob Greenyer

      Would love to have some to test.

      • tlp

        It might be possible in about one month:

        >>May a materials laboratory petition you (BrLP) for a sample to test?
        >>AMKOR semi-conductor lab in S.Korea has expressed an interest to me, and I said I would ask >>you about it.
        >Yes, but I need a month or so to finish the work first.

        That was 2 days ago. Mills is finalizing a paper about this hydrino hydride generation shown in their latest video from December, and doing more repetitions and verifications.

        • Bob Greenyer

          Good to know.

  • I know it, because they never published it. My stance could be argued easily by single link instead of ironical paragraph.

  • Jas

    Latest quote from Randy Mills:
    Invention cycle went through another turn. The new design is awesome. Worth the short delay. New patents filed. Better product, easier to
    manufacture, install, and service, shortened field trial phase, and likely
    more revenue in the long run.

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