Interview with Looking for Heat’s Alan Smith (Cold Fusion Now Podcast)

If people are interested more in the efforts of Looking for Heat in trying to help LENR researchers with their replication efforts, I would recommend listening to a recently published interview with Alan Smith conducted by Ruby Carat of Cold Fusion Now.

Alan discusses the goals of Looking for Heat and talks about his history in the field of engineering and his interest in LENR. He also discusses his interest in catalysis, including project he has started in which he uses a catalyst to create aluminum oxide and hydrogen from scrap aluminum.

He also describes a glow-discharge experiment that he plans to carry out at the New Energy Symposium that is planned to be held in Stockholm in June 2018.

The podcast, along with other podcasts of Ruby’s interviews with others working in the LENR field can be found here:

Incidentally, Alan has just shared on another thread here on ECW a video of a walk-through of new premises that he has just taken possession of near his home in London which he will use as a research laboratory. See below:

DSCN0830 from Alan Smith on Vimeo.

  • Axil Axil

    The demo the Alan Smith describes and intends to demonstrate involving a glow discharge though a tube of low pressure gas that activates a piece of metal foil is interesting.

    IMHO, the foil is producing muons. It is known that muons pass through light elements without reacting to any great degree. But muons react vigorously with heavy elements because of the high nuclear density of these heavy elements. The reaction cross section of muons with heavy elements like lead is about a million times greater than that with hydrogen. The muons catalyze fusion and fission on the heavy elements which results in the production of protons, neutrons and neutral atomic fragments.

    Holmlid uses copper as a way to convert muons to radiation that is more detectable by radiation counters. This has something to do with copper’s high surface conductivity.

    The high voltage discharge produces surface phasmon polaritons that will form a condensate on the surface of the metal foil and convert the energy content of the high voltage glow discharge into muons.

    This muon hypothesis can be verified through the use of a cload chamber. The chamber will produce tracks that are capable of showing the charge of the particles produced by the foil and their energies.

    With all the experience in a wide array of scientific methods, operation of a cload chamber should be well within Alan’s capabilities.

  • Axil Axil

    The key to producing SPPs is matching the electron’s energy level with the photons energy level. Alan is most likely using an alternating current high voltage source. There will be a ideal voltage in that voltage source cycle where the electron energy will match the energy of the photons.

    It should be possible to adjust the voltage of the HV source to a critical point where SPPs are no longer produced. It also shoud be possible to adjust the frequency of the light entering the tube so that the critical voltage is changed.

    It might be that the foil is generating its own photons and thus be independent of externally produced photons since it was stated that the foil glowed brightly. If the reaction occurs without the need for external photons, then the foil is self stimulated with respect to photon production. The soil might first produce heat photons due to electron impact then move up the photon frequency scale to the visible light range as the SPPs bose condensate store energy from the incoming electrons.

    The light coming of the foil is coherent and the energy gap will show the Mollow-type triplet, which becomes a signature of coherence of the photons with the e-h system and direct evidence of strong coupling.

    This experiment is similar to the exploding titanium foil experiments that was shown to change the mix pf U238 to U235 through the fission of U238.

    Low-energy nuclear reactions and the leptonic monopole

    Georges Lochak*, Leonid Urutskoev**

    It might be possible to show the stabilization of a radioactive isotope using the chiral muons/electrons coming off this reaction.

  • sam

    Comments from Lenr Forum.

    Yesterday, 11:44 am
    I transcribed a section of the podcast relevant to the discussion.

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    [21:28] [Ruby] Alan Smith, you’re going to be demonstrating a live glow discharge experiment at the New Energy World Symposium. That’s Mats Lewan’s event happening next June 18-19th in Stockholm Sweden, correct?

    [21:50] [Alan] That’s quite correct, yes. Mats is (???) for both days because I’ll be presenting the Hydrogen stuff that we’ve talked about, but also a glow discharge experiment, which [is] pure LENR; I’m designing it in conjuction with one of the “Old Guard”, as I call them – of the LENR field and they may or may not want their name to be public, I don’t know. But, what it involves is very simple equipment: we’re gonna pass a glow charge through a tube containing (???) low pressure gas, almost like a neon tube but without a phosphor. Probably running at something like 5 or 10 thousands volts. In the middle there will be a piece of metal foil. When the glow discharge begins then two things should happen. One of them (???): the metal foil should glow very very brightly, and sparkle in fact. You get sparkles on the surface. The other thing is, it produces what might be described as “anomalous radiation”, what’s, I think it was Edward Teller who coined the term, “Meshugganons”.

    [23:10] And, one of the characteristics of this radiation is that it does not do much to a Geiger counter. The Geiger… almost as if it weren’t… was neutron radiation. The Geiger is very sluggish, but as you begin to pile shielding between the Geiger counter and the source – the glowing foil – so the radiation count goes up, and up and up.

    [23:25] This sounds a little bit scary, but people who know much more about radiation than I do say: “well, the strange thing is you can saturate a Geiger counter and set all the alarms off, but it does not appear to be harmful”. So maybe it’s muons, cosmic rays or something like that. Who knows, who knows. Interesting experiment and by June I’ll know a lot more.

    [24:04] [Ruby] Well, we’ll look forward to hearing about that. […]
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    Alan Smith
    Yesterday, 11:49 am
    H-G Branzell .

    Funny thing you know, no matter how openly you discuss work and ideas the idea of ‘secrets’ is so deeply ingrained in our scientific and commercial culture that even if you are completely open about what you do and how it is done, people always believe there is more. But I assure you, that LFH is completely open. When I told Ruby we planned a LENR ‘show and tell’ live in Stockholm we really mean it, likewise with the LION replication. Another strange fact is that the more open you are, the fewer people care about it.

    As far as I am concerned fundamental and reliable LENR systems would be as impossible to keep secret as the invention of the wheel, or fire, so why bother?

    The secrecy and the patents can and should only revolve around the subsequent R&D and the IP created from that. LFH have made it very clear to our very generous donors that we will accept no restrictions on publication of basic methods or systems, and that only if they want us to go further and develop engineered applications which required further large-scale funding would we consent to work ‘under the radar’. If LENR really does turn out to be ‘Fire 2.0’ then we need to share it with all the rest of the Neanderthals before we all become extinct.

    • sam

      Alan Smith
      3 hours ago
      Update on the move into our new lab. Hopefully the landlord’s painters will do the business this weekend, I will be extremely pissed if they don’t, the pile of sheeted equipment on the lab floor (and my sense of lost time) grows by the day! Furniture fitting is booked to begin on Monday midday, a hefty new lathe and milling machine are arriving on Wednesday. I am organising the lab so we can use the space for interactive seminars if required, maybe 10-15 people at a time – I will be able to confirm numbers when the fit-out is done. Around half of the new lead-block wall came yesterday, delivered by a chap around the size of a small house. I’m so glad he didn’t hand me the crate without a warning about its weight!