New Energy World Symposium Postponed

Mats Lewan has published a post on his New Energy World Symposium website, announcing the postponement of the symposium that had been scheduled for June in Stockholm, Sweden.

https://new-symposium.org/2018/03/16/the-new-energy-world-symposium-will-be-postponed/

Here is an excerpt:

After some time of discussions and considerations, I have today decided that the New Energy World Symposium, scheduled to have taken place in June 2018 in Stockholm, will be postponed to a later date, yet to be defined.

The main reason is that several people, including some of those who are working with the development of LENR based technologies which is the main focus of the symposium, have asked me to wait until there’s a product in the market. This would make the event more relevant given that it turns to a wide audience wanting to get a better understanding of the consequences of such a disruptive energy technology—clean, compact, carbon-free, cheap and abundant.

Since there are good reasons to believe that a commercial LENR based energy product could be launched within a year or so, I find it reasonable to listen to this argument, and I will be looking forward to continuing the planning for the event while a product launch is getting closer.

  • Bob Greenyer

    It is a good Idea to not jump the gun.

    Thanks for your continued support to this community – good luck with your other work.

  • Frederic Maillard

    “including some of those who are working with the development of LENR based technologies”
    A. Rossi ?

  • George N

    Can all public LENR conferences be postponed until after Rossi’s IPO? Better to spread the word of LENR until after the current LENR community cashes in 😉

  • Gerard McEk

    I believe that you made the right decision Mats, although it must not have been easy.
    If there is a groundbreaking new LENR development or when indeed a LENR product arrives on the market, then that will attract attention and make such a conference much more wanted and for a larger public.
    Thank you for playing your role on the LENR scene, very much appreciated!

    • Vinney

      I think when there is a product on the market, unless Mats joins with a large marketing organization, there will be dozens of symposiums more significant than his, even many paying significant sums of money to the presenting researchers and experts.
      I am still hoping Andrea Rossi will supply much needed E-cat powered water distillation equipment to needy third world countries government.
      These handmade ‘bespoke’ units will be a symbol of the good the E-cat will be to humankind, and should preherald massive commercial production.
      What a gesture that would be from Andrea Rossi.

  • PhysicsForDummies

    Very good idea for Mats to delay, considering the propensity of certain LENR “researchers” to overhype and never deliver. I am hoping that the people he mentioned are real researchers (Mills, Mizuno, etc.) not Rossi

  • HS61AF91

    Having an occasion to interject some LENR into an anti-tariff comment, I took the liberty of using some of Mats great wording in the response to this
    “Trump orders huge tariffs on China, raises trade war worries”
    report in Stars and Stripes online newspaper:

    Trade restric­tions force prices upward and production downward. That is far from fair. Prof. Mises said; “When a State tries to improve economic conditions by tampering with the free market, it usually succeeds in accomplishing pre­cisely the results which it sought to avoid … “ (or officially sought to avoid, at any rate). So a tariff is a tax, hidden in more cost passed on in hidden fashion, rather than as a sales tax. The government collects this money immediately, while the industry needing the tariffed material pays more, and the consumer of the finished product gets scalped too. The consumer gets to absorb the passed on higher expense of production. Not too good as a fair and balanced approach to prosperity. The availability of near free energy for all ( ” … a disruptive energy technology—clean, compact, carbon-free, cheap and abundant. … “) would turn this quandary into a bountiful abundance of goods and services for all. Shame we humans have not advanced enough to either release near free energy upon the earth, or live magnanimously enough to accept this kind of paradigm change. The current era should not continue, ad infinitum, it has begun, even now,
    to fade away.

    • Vinney

      So how come Japan is soo successful with tariffs, quotas and a myriad of regulatory and other non-tariff barriers imposed on imports from anywhere.
      I think the theory is ‘culturally’ specific, in that it doesn’t work in Anglo-saxon countries, but works very well in Japan, South Korea, to a lesser extent China.
      A good Western European example of where this theory largely don’t work, is West Germany.
      The German republic restricts imports by a devious means of setting exceptionally high quality, safety and purity standards, where the homegrown industries easily find loopholes.
      Whereas imports have to comply 100%, and I bet there are heavy penalties for non-compliance.
      The importer’s distribution and fiscal reporting standards are also onerous.
      Maybe the USA should take note and follow suit, with similar ‘non-tariff’ barriers, and usefully employ the 100 million bureaucrats they have on payroll.

      • HS61AF91

        You make an interesting observation, that different cultures react to tariffs differently. We’ll see what does occur this time around, when we observe results. It seems to me the more abundant products are, the cheaper they become, and LENR means of production enables that. So I maintain a positive posture for us all.

      • Mylan

        There is no West Germany any more. And people, who are also voters, in German speaking countries, expect and demand high regulatory standards. Interesting that one could interpret this as a trade barrier. Such standards apply to imports and homegrown products likewise.

    • Alan DeAngelis

      Ah yes, “the invisible hand of the market place”. Or is it just an invisible finger?

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wWL43AOrRU

    • Omega Z

      Your under the impression there is free trade with China. One of Trumps detractors, Elon Musk actually agrees with Trump in this matter. China places huge tariffs on U.S. goods. 25% on all imported cars from the U.S. and many others products.

      As China already practices a protectionist policy with tariffs, it can’t do much that doesn’t hurt them more then the U.S. thus the threat of buying less grain from the U.S. and buying grain elsewhere. However, that’s like musical chairs. Someone else will take the chair they vacate. There’s always more players then chairs.

      • HS61AF91

        We would not feel slighted if China traded freely. Is it human nature in business, everyone trying to make money off of everyone else? Lessen the incentive to gouge, in reducing all prices for everyone. That’s a miracle at this point in time, ‘neva hatchi.’ But change the costs if energy and miracles happen. Hello, LENR.

  • Jas

    At first I thought fair play to Mats, perhaps it makes sense to delay. Now I am thinking that perhaps Mats knows something we dont? If one is to delay an important conference based on the belief that a product release is immenent it could be argued that one is foolish to delay as the product could still be years away. We all know that Mats is no fool. Perhaps as a confidant of Rossi he has some inside knowledge of actual release dates?

  • Alain Samoun

    Hum… Stockholm in winter? Of course a good place to test LENR’s heat

  • sam

    Rafal Krych
    March 23, 2018 at 8:34 AM
    Hi Andrea,

    I see that Mats Lewan decided to postpone his New Word Energy Symposium:
    https://new-symposium.org/2018/03/16/the-new-energy-world-symposium-will-be-postponed/

    Reason stated here is:
    The main reason is that several people, including some of those who are working with the development of LENR based technologies which is the main focus of the symposium, have asked me to wait until there’s a product in the market. This would make the event more relevant given that it turns to a wide audience wanting to get a better understanding of the consequences of such a disruptive energy technology—clean, compact, carbon-free, cheap and abundant.

    Since there are good reasons to believe that a commercial LENR based energy product could be launched within a year or so, I find it reasonable to listen to this argument, and I will be looking forward to continuing the planning for the event while a product launch is getting closer.

    My question is if “commercial LENR based energy product could be launched within a year or so” is related to your E-CAT?

    I’m asking because I’ve added myself to non-binding list of potential E-CAT buyers and just checking chances of having market delivery.

    Andrea Rossi
    March 23, 2018 at 9:57 AM
    Rafal Krych:
    I cannot answer for Mats Lewan, but I think he is referring to what I told him and I am also writing on this blog. My Team is working on this issue and we hope to succeed.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

  • Alan DeAngelis

    Give these guys front row seats.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BemTGkjl6U

    • Alan DeAngelis
    • sam

      I think Brian and James are skeptics of Rossi Ecat.
      It is interesting that Sven Kullander who worked with
      Rossi to invent the Ecat was
      A member of the Science Skeptics Association in Sweden.

      http://www.vof.se/about/

      • Alain Samoun

        Two mistakes: It was Hanno Essen who was (is?) a member of the Science Skeptics Association and, above all, Sven Kullander never worked with Rossi: He was,with Essen, at the first demonstration of the e-cat in 2011 to evaluate the machine.

        • sam

          You are right that it was Essén and not Kullander that was a member of skeptic society.
          Rossi has said that he
          collaborated with Kullander when working
          on Ecat invention right up to his death in 2014.
          He named the new Ecat
          he is researching the Ecat SK in his honour.

  • sam

    AlainCo post from Lenr Forum.

    The symposium was held yesterday.
    Old and new faces. Researchers, young and retired, people in the industry at the top and bottom of the chart … I was very happy to be surprised by the variety of the audience.
    As for the previous RNBE there were some English speakers, such as Dewey Weaver and JD Vinko from ISCMNS, as well as some Belgian and Swiss.

    I’m going to do a quick synthesis, rather in the spirit of a teasing than a report.
    I advise you if the “teasing” seems attractive to you to consult the documents, to see to ask information directly to the authors.

    The first presentation by Jean-paul Biberian took stock of what happened at the ICCF20 in Xiamen and sendai and at the ISCMNS workshop in Asti.
    Jean-Paul Biberian resumed his syntheses published on his blog at the time.
    http://blogde-jeanpaulbiberian.blogspot.fr/2016/10/
    http://blogde-jeanpaulbiberian.blogspot.fr/2017/06/
    To go back on these conferences, we see the important work of the Japanese, that should be reanalyzed. Otherwise, various works in Russia, Ukraine, USA, Italy, China, India, Hungary, France and old experiences revisited.

    Note that the next ISCMNS Workshop No. 13 was announced by W Collis for 5-9 October 2018; details are to be read soon on the ISCMNS website.
    http://www.iscmns.org/

    Then experiments (quite close) in progress in France were presented by the Fondation louis de Broglie, and then Jacques Ruer.

    The first is an electrical discharge experiment in water, related to the hypothesis of leptonic magnetic monopoly (George Lochak theory).
    Discharge calibrated by the load of a capacity under some kV, are sent in a spark gap (stainless steel screw), in demineralized water to keep boiling, and the calorimetry is done by measuring the loss of mass of water, when the steam produced is very dry.
    The heat gain over background heating is about 10%.
    The pulse-related COP is of the order of 3 when it is conservative, but if the losses are analyzed (17%, 64% resistors) it seems that the impulse COP is 8.5. the COP remains at 1 when the spark gap is short-circuited. The experiment is repeatable but only works on average once in four, and depends on many known parameters (non-conducting water) and unknown. Improvements are under way, with cold liquid calorimetry (it seems to work), and the lowering of the voltage that seems to improve efficiency.
    It will be necessary to consult the published documents.

    The second that Jacques Ruer presented is that of electrical explosions in the water.
    It resembles the work of Graneau, Randell Mills (cited in one of his patents), and Tucker Levitt (see Trowbridge in 1907).
    The idea is to trigger a supersonic explosion in the water by brutal electric discharges.
    For this reason, an oscillating cathode is immersed in water with little conductivity until the arc is created.
    The explosion can be very violent (at the point of destroying the cell), but does not occur systematically (even a simple arc occurs with the overly conductive).
    a very high surtentions is observed, and seems to be caused by the expansion of the plasma (dynamo effect). This is probably not an anomaly, but could serve as a marker for effective discharges.
    There is no calorimetry result yet.

    2 other theoretical presentations followed.

    Philippe Hatt presented his theory of the structure of atomic nuclei composed of alphas particles.
    It shows how the binding energy of these nuclei can be explained by alpha particles connected by NPN NN and NNP NN bonds.
    He is looking for help on various points, including modeling in space of his theory.

    Jean Luc Paillet presented the works that realized with Andrew Meulenberg on the deep electronic states, integrating relativistic corrections on the atomic models.
    He managed to ascend that such state would be possible, to find the energy level and the stability (towards 1.6fm, binding energy towards the 509keV). he uses
    At the end the question was asked how it was possible to place an electron in such a state. It seems that incredible pressure is needed, as in neutron stars (astronomical observations seem to allow it), or why not in nanocracks as Edmund Storms proposes.

    Finally Jean-luc Biberian presented different experiences seem to reveal LENR transmutations.

    He referred to the work of Benjamin Barrel, apparently showing biological transmutations in cyanobacteria.

    Then he mentioned his cooperation with George Egely (Hungary) with possible transmutations in microwave charcoal in a chamber incorporating a regulating magnetron furnace, but also a quartz cell with a tuned electrode.
    Finally, the isotopic analysis of old electrodes, which Martin fleischmann used for ICARUS9 experiments, proved to be very productive.
    The analysis revealed the presence of silver 107 specifically present in the first 1 μm of surface (a progressive erosion shows how the anomaly is visible on the surface and disappears after 1 μm). There were also clearly “hotspot” where the anomalies are concentrated.
    The fact that the anomaly is observed only in the first 1μm is a very important fact for understanding the phenomenon.

    Jean-Paul Biberian also spoke about the testimony of Stanley Pons on the 1985 incident, with a cube of 1cm on the side, where a reaction PdD had a tou in the table and the ground.
    F & P had let the experiment run for a long time, and decided to reduce the current density in anticipation of a 3-day weekend, to avoid problems.
    in retrospect, it seems to be probably because of the incident, by unloading the cube.

    The size of the hole was evoked with Stanley Pons which seems really huge according to what JP Biberian showed, a diameter well beyond 20cm, and a depth of more than 10cm … My visual estimate is maybe wrong, but is far from the testimony cited usually evoking a small depression of a finger in the concrete … The testimony of the intern who attended F & P, and evoked a huge thing, seems finally fair enough.

    The last session was a round table on how to move forward and structure the community.
    The fact that cold fusion is a taboo word in France was mentioned, and this seems to prohibit funding. it is an area that “is not admissible”.
    In the current economy there is money, but do we say there are no “good projects” … The cold fusion today, in spite of what we know, does not bet “good projects”.
    Marc Benmarraze and Christophe Pellerin spoke of the need to make a reference document in which the various claims are judged, where the consensus is cited, and the “non-consensual” claims rejected. the aim would be to provide decision-makers, politicians, with better informed reports than those that CEA “experts” usually interviewed would answer (“it’s bullshit, do not even think about it”). It should first of all “clean” to make the area credible.
    According to them, “it goes in all directions”, and it would require a clear strategy, establish a common goal, with for example 2 lines of experience to support, to change the vision of the authorities.

    But other, more skeptical voices were raised, recalling that the situation had been known for a long time, and that this vicious circle of unsupported research unable to produce clear results capable of making the field “acceptable” was a fact against which everyone was already fighting in the room.
    Should you recognize that there is no public funding to fund current research to make the domain acceptable? that only the private sector is able to finance these disruptive searches? Or should you still hope for more open decisions?
    France would be one of the places where the cold fusion would be the most active, with Italy, in Europe, with a huge public funding potential, to unlock … Others argue against that culturally, organizationally, what would be the worst place for this type of innovation.
    It was also mentioned the fact that the private, if it is open to novelty, however requires quick results, and can not afford to fund research without results for years …

    In any case, Christophe Pellerin has proposed to coordinate the creation of a summary document, and asks that those wishing to participate contact Mathieu Valat of the SFSNMC.
    There was a desire in the room to support this initiative, but also skeptics.

    Mathieu Valat reminds that there is a Google SFSNMC group (ask for your registration) to exchange.
    https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/sfsnmc

    • LION

      Hi sam,
      Thank you for posting this valuable information here:

      “Finally Jean-luc Biberian presented different experiences seem to reveal LENR transmutations.

      He referred to the work of Benjamin Barrel, apparently showing biological transmutations in cyanobacteria.

      Then he mentioned his cooperation with George Egely (Hungary) with possible transmutations in microwave charcoal in a chamber incorporating a regulating magnetron furnace, but also a quartz cell with a tuned electrode.

      Finally, the isotopic analysis of old electrodes, which Martin fleischmann used for ICARUS9 experiments, proved to be very productive.

      The analysis revealed the presence of silver 107 specifically present in the first 1 μm of surface (a progressive erosion shows how the anomaly is visible on the surface and disappears after 1 μm). There were also clearly “hotspot” where the anomalies are concentrated.

      The fact that the anomaly is observed only in the first 1μm is a very important fact for understanding the phenomenon.

      Jean-Paul Biberian also spoke about the testimony of Stanley Pons on the 1985 incident, with a cube of 1cm on the side, where a reaction PdD had a tou in the table and the ground.

      F & P had let the experiment run for a long time, and decided to reduce the current density in anticipation of a 3-day weekend, to avoid problems.

      in retrospect, it seems to be probably because of the incident, by unloading the cube.

      The size of the hole was evoked with Stanley Pons which seems really huge according to what JP Biberian showed, a diameter well beyond 20cm, and a depth of more than 10cm … My visual estimate is maybe wrong, but is far from the testimony cited usually evoking a small depression of a finger in the concrete … The testimony of the intern who attended F & P, and evoked a huge thing, seems finally fair enough.”

      • sam

        Stanley Pons lives in France.
        It would have been something if he had showed at the Symposium.

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