Does Brilliant Light Power Reactor’s Run on Overunity Too? (A Speculation)

The following post has been submitted by Zephir Zephir

Those who follow experiments of Brilliant Light Power (BLP) of Dr. Randell L. Mills undoubtedly realized, that – despite the hydrino theory used for their explanation – these experiments are conceptually similar to another overunity technologies based on the plasma formation during gas discharges (Papp’s plasma engineLangmuir’s overunity from atomar hydrogen, Chernetsky plasma generato r or underwater discharges 12345 for to name just a few), including the cold fusion Quark-X reactor of Andrea Rossi. In addition there is fundamental problem with identification of source of energy in the hydrino model, because Dr. Randell Mills says, that hydrino is energetically most stable ash, so it should pile-up inside our Universe at various places, not to say about forming compounds presented by Dr. Mills. From this perspective his hypothesis, that the hydrino forms dark matter also gives sense – but it should preferably clump and to form hydrino based dense objects all around us – which was never observed.

In dense aether model perspective there is no reason for why the hydrino should be stable, more stable than ground state of hydrogen the more. In this model the particles in vacuum resemble pollen grains floating at the water surface being shaken by its Brownian noise. The similar noise (colloquially called Zero Point Energy) in vacuum is caused by vacuum fluctuations and it’s responsible for the fact, that superfluid helium doesn’t freeze even at zero absolute temperature. We can imagine, that quantum fluctuations of vacuum are shaking with helium atoms and they’re prohibiting them in their arranging into crystal. The similar effect would also prohibit the formation of more compact sub-quantum states, which are considered by Rande l Mills theory. If we squeeze the atoms more, they will not collapse into hydrinos, but they will bounce back into basic quantum state once the pressure gets released (this effect keeps the stars before collapse and it is called degenerated pressure). We can imagine some exotic situations, where subquantum states could be still preferred, like the Casimir vacuum inside metal nanocracks or surface cavities of metals of negative curvature – but just these situations are missing in BLP’s experiments with exploding wires and/or SunCell® reactor, which contains only molten or evaporate d metal (silver) and plasma – nothing else.

Another pilar of Randell Mills theory is nonradiation condition (see also Sommerfeld radiation condition), which is supposed to stabilize hydrino atoms in accordance to hydrino model. Dr. Mills considers, that hydrogen orbitals form thin spherical shells, the electronic transition of whose get suppressed in similar way, like the radiation of spherical antennae. This is correct insight, but by itself it wouldn’t make hydrino atoms energetically richer. Instead it, it promotes special way of electronic transitions – so called forbidden mechanism, during which the orbital shell collapses all at once during very brief time, being metastable. In my theory of overunity such a metastable transition is of negentropic character, because the spherical shape of electron orbitals prohibits the smooth transition – so it can include negentropic effects, being assisted by vacuum fluctuations. Negentropic effects are quite common in the nature and they involve all irreversible transitions like oversaturation, overheating or overcooling effects, when the energy is not released smoothly – but after overcoming some activation energy. At the moment when this energy gets supplied by vacuum fluctuations, then the net result during fast repeating these transitions can be positive instead of negative.

Considering that energy transitions of hydrogen can be also forbidden, it would mean, that it’s not the hydrino formation itself, but the highly symmetric, i.e. spherical geometry of orbital transition is responsible for observed surplus of energy, claimed by Randall Mills. This explanation actually doesn’t exclude the existence of subquantum statees of hydrogen, on the contrary – it just doesn’t require to be stable, more stable than fundamental ground state the more. It also means, that Dr. Mills hydrino theory is not downright wrong – but merely incomplete description of the reality of BLP process and patents. The advantage of this explanation is, it comprehends another observations of overunity in plasma, which could have the same origin – even without permanent formation of hydrinos. Their atoms just should be present in fully dissociated atomar state (as Lan gmuir al so has found) – because only such a state provides perfectly spherically symmetric orbitals. But monoatomar noble gases and their mixtures (dtto Papp’s engine) are usable for this purpose too. It could also explain, why Dr. Mills observed his overunity effects mostly in ultraviolet spectrum, where the hydrogen atoms get fully dissociated into atomic hydrogen. In this sense it may be important, that some aditives (chlorine or oxygen) may assist during hydrogen ionization or recombination in similar way, like catalytic metals promoted by Dr. Mills (tungsten, silver?).

Of course the overunity during atomar hydrogen recombination could apply also to most recent QuarkX reactor of Andrea Rossi in lesser or greater extent thus complementing nuclear reactions (cold fusion) – but this is just a speculation in a given moment. What is more important is, the assistance of vacuum fluctuations during symmetric collapse of spherical fields may apply to wide range of another overunity phenomena at various scales – from isomerization of nuclei (Valee synergic generator) over plasma overunity (as noted above) to collapse of magnetic domains during saturation of ferromagnets (MEG of T. Beardeen and/or various magnetic motors) and/or collapse of bubbles during cavitation (Rosh buyoance engine) and/or even collapsing fields inside spherical capacitors (Testatica of Paul Baumann) and conical/concentric bucking coils of (various Tesla and Kapanadze generators). These perspective are currently subject of my undergoing private research.

  • Jouni Tuomela

    Does this relate at all?
    “Quasiparticle observed getting involved in dissociation reaction

    Plasmons’ ability to directly excite molecules and partake in a chemical reaction has been observed by researchers in Japan, South Korea and the US. The work provides fundamental insight into the underlying photochemistry and could aid the design of photocatalysts.”

    • Nope, “free electrons” (loosely coupled) don’t imply any “free energy” (free as a beer)…

  • Anon2012_2014

    Interesting speculation (hypothesis) and just as much valid as the other hypotheses for the excess energy production.

    Long term we should be able to design experiments to test these hypotheses.

    • /* Interesting speculation (hypothesis) and just as much valid as the other hypotheses for the excess energy production. */

      Only if we ignore already existing experiments and observations. Some hypotheses may be applied to wider group of overunity reports than others – and this is just the route which I follow. For example, absolute majority of overunity theories considers, that the vacuum fluctuations are responsible for overunity – and now we “just” should somehow unify understanding, which particular mechanism is actually responsible for it.

      • Anon2012_2014

        Zephir — we should always integrate the experimental observations into our revised models. How to do so is not clear to me.

        • Well some people utilize more experimental observations than others.

  • Omega Z

    Overunity as to many means a perpetual energy device.

    Overunity should be defined as we do not understand of comprehend what is actually taking place.

    Rossi’s E-cat is no different then an internal combustion engine. Apply a spark to activate the stored energy in the fuel. Mill’s BLP is of a similar nature as are many others.

    A heat pump puts out more energy(heat) then we apply. However, this is merely moving heat from 1 place to another. It should be possible under the right circumstances(temperature differentials) and a very efficient Stirling engine to self loop. However, this would not be Overunity or perpetual motion. It is merely exploiting and utilizing energy that already exists.

    IF you were to create say a Zero Point Energy(ZPE) module, Then you have merely discovered a way to move energy from 1 place to another. Much like a Heat pump. No overunity involved.

    Question? If it cost a Million$ to create ZPE module only to need replacing after extracting only a million watts of energy, would you still be trying to create one. All these have certain things in common. Finding a cheaper source or way to produce energy and, we don’t always understand exactly how they work.

    By the way. I once had a neighbor who invented a Zero Point Energy cord. It worked great until I unplugged it from my outside outlet. lol..

  • Thanks Mr. Acland for kind translation of my blurbs from my usual “Czenglish”… 🙂

  • Dr. Mike

    What experimental work would you propose to confirm your theory? Mills is running some experiments and releasing some data that is consistent with his theory of hydrinos, but certainly has not yet accumulated enough data to prove his theory.

    • First of all I’d repeat Langmuir’s experiments with atomic hydrogen and their overunity claims – these ones are documented best and some hydrogen torches are even used. Replication of Papps engine and Chernetski generator would be also desirable as they don’t use any hydrogen – their overunity would therefore doubt hydrino mechanism claims.

      • Dr. Mike

        I would really like to see a replication of the Papp engine. Do you think that you could accomplish this feat?

        • Reliably not – currently I’m focused to solid state magnetic generators just because they don’t require any mechanical parts. They’re also most accessible for wide public from that reason.

      • Bob Greenyer

        The turning of metal to a liquid, or glowing ‘red hot’ is not necessarily due to temperature.

        Both effects are necessarily involve electrons.

        • I’m not sure what do you have on mind with it – some sort of “Hutchinson effect”? Do you have some other indicia for the above claim?

          • Bob Greenyer

            My first encounter came before I was connected with Hutchison, this was the glowing of stainless steel without higher heat reported by me356.

            My second encounter came before I was connected with Hutchison, there was the glowing of titanium and iron bars, and additionally melting of iron bars under water by Suhas Ralkar.


            Listen 12 mins in

            I discuss some old thinking here


          • The glow in Me356 reactor may depend on the exact location of his catalyst within reactor: once it catches the heat, the corresponding part of reactor may start to glow well outside the zone originally heated from outside by wire.

            Otherwise we can imagine, that hydrogen at some part of reactor gets heavily ionized into atomic one and it will recombine at another part of reactor. On this principle the welding by atomic hydrogen has been based. This explanation would depend on direction and flow of hydrogen within reactor and it would support my theory well – but I’m not sure that Me356 did use flow of hydrogen in his reactor (instead of it I presume, he did use sealed pipes under low pressure).

            There is still possibility, that the atomic hydrogen would get ionized and dragged to cathodic part of the reactor, where it would recombine with cold metal parts of it (under occasional overunity), but I’m just speculating here.

          • Bob Greenyer

            Stainless steel is a bad conductor of heat and it is opaque.

            me356 said that before glowing, at a particular temp.

            during glowing – same temp

            difference, stimulation on and input power down (therefore glowing is incident with excess heat).

          • Axil Axil

            When the stimulus is applied, a Bose condensate is formed because the density of polaritons are increased beyond the condensation threshold level. That condensate will produce Light.

            The stainless steal will glow in the same way that the QX reactor produces light.

            this is the article

            Marrying superconductors, lasers, and Bose-Einstein condensates


            This is the research.

            High-energy side-peak emission of exciton-polariton condensates in high density regime


          • Bob Greenyer

            Yes Axil.

            There are at least two modes by which light is released.

          • Thanks, but do you have link or source of original Me356 claim? The overunity and cold fusion scene is flooded by many claims without reliable source and sometimes it brings more confusion than actual progress.

            Was this glow observed in camera only – or by naked eye too?

          • Bob Greenyer

            I quoted directly me356 from LENR-FORUM. The link to the source is under the cycling GIF I produced from the two static images he posed there.


            I understand this was visible to the naked eye also and I have no reason to suspect otherwise – it is one thing that the active agent can do.

  • BTW This article is actually inspired by this one “On the Electromagnetic Electron“, reposted from E-Cat site of Vessela Nikolova. The quantum zitterbewegung is just special motion of electron orbitals, which could participate on draining energy from vacuum fluctuations.

  • georgehants

    After many years of neglect by establishment science trying to maintain a purely mechanical philosophy by their holy priests, now genuine Research is happening new discoveries are coming daily.
    Where will it lead, what will be found, the proof that our minds effect Quantum events opens up possibilities being confirmed that have been known for thousands of years.
    The apparent inner calm of quantum materials
    May 8, 2018, University of Geneva
    Researchers from the University of Geneva (UNIGE) and multi-institutional collaborators have
    been studying BACOVO—a one-dimensional quantum material. They report
    that the material exhibits a novel topological phase transition governed
    by two types of topological excitation. In addition, they were able to
    choose which of the two types would dominate the other. Their research
    is published in the journal Nature Physics.
    Read more at:

  • Bob Greenyer

    This is a good review by Zephir – whatever is the underlying process, it is likely responsible for many observations.

  • sam

    A celebration of curiosity for Feynman’s 100th birthday

  • The concept of quantum zitterbewegung is explained for example here. It’s inherent concept of quantum mechanics from its very beginning – but it’s rarely used in anglo-Saxon literature, which is why it still keeps its original German name. One reason could be, it’s actually effect of scalar physics, which is tabooed at West, whereas the Germans did scalar wave research to the end of WWW II. But it’s principle is very simple: every quantum fluctuation can be considered as a density blob of vacuum which undulates from place to place.

    But this motion actually consist of two components: vector one which changes location of particle in space – and the second scalar one, which changes its size or intensity. This scalar component can be further divided into Majorana, Weyl and Dirac transitions. Usually the scalar component remains suppressed, which is why this solution is neglected in Schrodinger equations and only relativistic form consider it. The energy transitions from large to smaller orbitals and vice-versa are considered atemporal if not amoral and usually not considered in theory (as unmeasurable “quantum jumps”). But under certain circumstances the scalar component of orbital transitions cannot be neglected – and these situations are just what makes them interesting for overunity applications.

    • One reason why scalar transitions are usually neglected is, the electron transition usually propagate like electromagnetic wave from orbital to orbital at the moment, when at least one of them is just a bit asymmetric and as such capable of radiation.

      The scalar transitions between orbitals are relatively rare, because transverse electromagnetic wave has nowhere to propagate across/through the bulk of orbitals (so-called “forbidden transitions“). They also manifest usually by subtle lines in spectra, because they run with lower probability.

      Nevertheless just these transitions are of great practical importance as a basis of luminescence and fluorescence, where the energy of atoms gets released slowly. In slowly radioactive beta decay systems, multiple levels of forbiddenness can
      stretch life times by many orders of magnitude for each additional unit
      by which the system changes beyond what is most allowed under the
      selection rules.

      • Under normal conditions, the character of electron transitions is hardwired in structure of atom orbitals, but under certain circumstances it can be modified by changing the conditions of atoms. For example ionization of some electron can lead into rearrangement of remaining orbitals in such a way, some of their transitions can become “forbidden” and vice-versa. But this effect is difficult to predict in general way.

        Another situation will happen, when the atoms are subjected to physical constrains from outside, like the motion in space or subjected to magnetic field. In general, the constraining of atom motion to a narrow plane (graphene) or even line (nanotube, superconductor stripe) leads into strong enforcing of scalar transition in accordance to this animation. The scalar transition is transition across temporal dimension of space-time, as Dirac already noted. By constraining motion in spatial dimensions the motion across temporal dimensions gets enforced. This is also why the materials under stress or those of linear of planar structure have so much Dirac electrons and tendency to both supeconductivity, both interaction with scalar waves.

        The application of magnetic field has similar but somehow different effect. The magnetic field curves path of electrons by Lorentz force and in general it makes their path more flat, asymmetry and spatially constrained, than at the case of electrons without magnetic field. The induced precession also makes additional energy levels and paths, along which the electrons can jump from one orbital into another ones.

        But the external magnetic field also makes the electron orbitals more wide and it rises the possibility, that electrons will interact mutually, which kills the superconductivity. The solution is to compensate this effect by another magnetic field in opposite direction as practiced by bifilar or bucking coils and/or magnets in “anapole” arrangement. In this case only scalar component of magnetic field (so-called B-filed) would apply and we enforce the probability of scalar transitions again.

  • This is a repost from post presented at reddit originally. The reading of reddit post Simplest theory of overunity devices possible is recommended for understanding its context. The general line of reasoning is as follows:

    1. The overunity (actually just a violation of 2nd law of thermodynamics​) may be possible by utilization of zero point energy of quantum fluctuations of vacuum
    2. This utilization is possible by exploiting macroscopic negentropic phenomena violating the thermodynamic time arrow like the overheating, overcooling, negative resistance and all phenomena requiring overcoming of activation potential energy barrier.
    3. One such a potential barrier possible follows from nonradiating condition of spherical atom orbitals​, on which hydrino theory of Dr. Randell Mills​ is also based.

  • Sonoluminescence is the emission of short bursts of light from imploding bubbles in a liquid when excited by sound. Collapsing bubbles have hot plasma core: laboratories have measured the center of the bubble at thousands of degrees, with recorded temperatures going as high as 20,000° Celsius. A proposal for research and development in the area of high energy sonoluminescence hypersonic focused shockwaves.

    Couldn’t the above mechanism of overunity, subquantum mechanics from Casimir vacuum or cold fusion explain the overunity effects of cavitation heaters? See for example quantum radiation model by Schwinger and Eberlein. They used Unruh radiation aka Dynamic Casimir effect to explain the phenomenon LeClair experiments with laser induced fusion in water above solid surfaces are also more or less just about cavitation. It’s worth to note, that the spherically symmetric collisions (in Taleyrkhan sonofusion style) should be less effective for cold fusion than shock waves and emergent cracks – but more effective for explanation by scalar overunity mechanism.

    See also Sonoluminiscence recipe, Bluish flash of sonoluminiscence (YouTube video).

  • In dense aether model the vacuum is elastic and it should mediate waves not only between dipoles but also within spherically symmetric capacitors and spherical radiators in Tesla/K.Meyl style. The simplest evidence of scalar wave field consist in demonstration of electromagnetic induction without magnetic field. Hooper-Monstein experiment has been conducted by in 1992 and it shows that an electromagnetic induction can be produced even when magnetic field remains equal to zero. The original arrangement of experiment was often subject of critique – IMO it should be demonstrated more consequentially by pair of Ledskalnin’s bucking coils, which generatemonopole-like field during current impulse. This arrangement has been used in configuration of many overunity devices claimed so far.

  • Infinity SAV USA recently acquired a US patent, in a transaction valued at over $3 million, that protects its generator technology that “produces several times more power than it takes to operate”. The generator is powered solely by permanent magnets. Infinity’s US Patent 7,095,126 B2 is the first (?) patent issued for a motor and generator / alternator feedback loop combination that continuously produces excess energy.

    IMO it’s typical "troll" patent useless with respect to actual overunity generation – unfortunately it covers wide range of so-called QMoGen systems (the shape of the letter Q refers to the idea of "self-looped with energy left over", mo = motor gen = generator) consisting of motor and dynamo coupled by pulley or directly by common axis. Just these types of generators became widespread in YouTube free energy fakes. From my perspective the investment into such a patent still represents a good new, as it indicates, that Gary Tripp – founder and owner of Infinity SAV Co. – plans serious business and not just to sell his inventions to some CIA backed company (like the Akula and Stepanov did), which would burrow them for ever before public.

    More info about InfinitySAV Team generator, Australians can already buy the scalar dynamo, working on the same principle, info about Thaiwan clone, new amateur replica.

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