MFMP Plan and Proposal Regarding ECCO Device

Below is a summary written by Ryan Hunt of the Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project of the Hangout meeting that was held this afternoon.

Summary of Live Hangout on 7/13/17

MFMP has been planning to do a validation test of the ECCO device in Mumbai for a few months now. We have known for over a month that Suhas, the inventor, has a loan guaranteed by the real estate for his lab and all the equipment and the bank is in the late stages of foreclosure now. We have learned, now, Suhas has just in the last few days made a deal to sell his ultrasonics technology to a company that has a very specific pipe cleaning application for it.

The deal includes the foundational tech and the prototype ECCO apparatus. This would very likely result in no further open work on his LENR device. This deal will be finalized at the end of July and includes some ongoing consulting to implement the pipe cleaner in an industrial plant.

Suhas has been relatively open about how the fuel for the ECCO device was made and how the device is constructed. He has sent Bob samples of the raw material, the finished fuel and the ash, all of which were tested and reported on. Suhas has stated his interest in making his technology open on several occasions. Unfortunately, Suhas had to find a way out of his financial predicament.

Next week, Bob Greenyer and George Egely will fly over to do the long awaited test with a lightweight set of instruments and will try to do the tests live on video. If the tests look positive and convincing enough, Ryan Hunt will fly over and join them a few days later with live data streaming test equipment like what was used in the AURA tests in May.

If the tests still positive and convincing, we will try in earnest to work out a deal to allow us to work with the technology in cooperation with Suhas. Such a deal could take several forms, but most will require some form of bridge financing to help make them happen. Towards that end, MFMP held an on-air hangout that was recorded on youtube. In the hangout, Bob Greenyer, who has been the MFMP contact with Suhas, explained the situation and our need to gauge the interest and capability of the crowd to help make a deal happen if we can come to an agreement.

Some of the potential deals discussed or suggested by viewers include:

Raising $320K in donations to buy the assets, including the real estate. Then we would sell the real estate and pay back the donors within 90 days. This would require appraisals, good local lawyer services in Mumbai, and solid agreement between all the players. Then the assets would be available for research in a different lab.

We could arrange a license or split the technology purchase with the other company. This would not recover the capital till we made copies of the reactor for sale to research institutions.

The technology is not patented, so we could wait for Suhas to finish his obligations, or split his time with the company buying his technology before we work with him. Replicate the reactor on our own – we are very reticent to take this path as it is likely to require a huge amount of research and funds to catch up.

There may be other options that supporters will come up with, too. Most of this will have to be dealt with in person after we find out if the reactor performs as claimed. To help be ready for that discussion, MFMP has put together a survey at for potential supporters (or detractors) to fill out. If the support is strong, we can go into any dealmaking with more flexibility to help us secure this technology to be developed openly.

The long term vision is to kickstart the LENR industry. Once a valid LENR technology has been publicly and openly tested like this, we envision creating many copies of the device and distributing them to research institutions around the world for subsequent validation and further research into the phenomenon.

The research agreements would include ongoing protections on the openness of the science. The end result would be a large mass of open knowledge of the underlying physics and at least a few embodiments that would be available for use in thousands of new products.

Written by Ryan Hunt