MFMP Video on ECCO Reactor Design

Thanks to Bob Greenyer for posting a link to a new video he has filmed during his and George Egeley’s last day in India visiting inventor Suhas.

The MFMP team did not get a chance to test Suhas’ technology (Bob has explained in previous posts and videos that the lab with all the equipment in had been locked by the bank in a foreclosure process), but Suhas has committed to continue to work together with the MFMP in the future to help them replicate his technology.

In this video Bob shows the design of the ECCO reactor.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/V7fBhV1ytr0

  • Bob Greenyer

    I will write a blog to expand on this when I have performed my other duties in the coming days.

    We were told that Suhas uses a high temperature epoxy – I found this one.

    http://www.autozone.com/sealants-glues-adhesives-and-tape/epoxy-compound/blue-magic-qs-high-temperature-metal-repair-trilingual/515553_0_0

    I am now within a whisker of stating that LENR as in “Low Energy Nuclear Reactions” (however they are caused) are real and testable based on specific data. With reference to ECCO, without knowing for certain that it is producing excess heat until after a test, the feedstock/fuel/ash data points to Suhas being able to perform LENR.

    • sam

      Now that’s exciting.

    • So let’s say you get past that whisker’s width and state categorically that it is LENR. How does MFMP replicate it and get others to replicate this result?

      • Bob Greenyer

        It may not even need that. We are discussing it at the moment.

        NOVA reactor may show it before we can replicate ECCO, but ECCO has a high probability of showing it.

        • Both at the same time would really sink the deal. Best of luck.

          • SEAL the deal. Not sink the deal. Damned autocorrect.

  • georgehants

    Bob, if you are successful are you going to keep it all secret for seven years, Most people seem to think that is the right thing to do.

    • Bob Greenyer

      My problem is I have stuff I don’t want to do (like MFMP accounts) getting in the way of me publishing everything I understand, which is sometimes growing faster than I can put it out.

      My work as an individual and for the MFMP is all for the public.

      The knowledge I want to get out now is not esoteric, it is factual and already based on multiple independent parties. It is a lot of work to bring it into a clear package for people to relate to – but I am working on a ‘minimum viable product’ way of dissemination. Several people are in the loop as always to ensure there is no risk of information loss.

      • georgehants

        Of course priorities and important caring for the “public”.
        Many thanks for you and your teams hard work, it is a great contribution.
        Maybe later if you have time, you will be able to expand on those other things.
        Best

  • Bob Greenyer
  • Bob Greenyer

    Excellent video walking through the design of an ultrasonic resonant horn.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-E7zlQEk5MA

    • HAL9000

      Bob, after the extensive research you have already conducted into Sudhas’s processes methods, and design, do you believe that your team might be able to replicate his success at this point, or are there some specific unknowns remaining on the critical path? Thank your excellent work and professionalism while working under difficult conditions.

  • Bob Greenyer

    Hi There,

    Everything Suhas said, has checked out, even when we were surprised when we first heard things. He has been making bespoke things for so long, he just knows. When we sat in his office and asked him how it all fitted together, he gave us every dimension and specific off the top of his head. Also, there is something we are verifying right now that could have profound implication for not ECCO, but for other researchers in the field.

    Suhas has his 75th birthday at the end of August and so the window
    we have between then and our visas expiring is the beginning of
    September.

    NOVA is a new-build Dr. Egely dusty fusion reactor that is nearing its first tests that is being built for MFMP with donations. I may see it as early as next week. Here are some shots from a few weeks ago.

    https://steemit.com/science/@mfmp/nova-microwave-and-high-intensity-sound-based-transmutation-reactor-under-construction

  • Bob Greenyer

    Replicating on our own would be a last choice. Working with the original claimant will take years of the work and be a path to rapid success if at all possible. Since Suhas has said he would work with us on a replication, this is the first path to take.

    Much of the key information is there, Alan is starting to work on the electronics as Suhas lost his guy and Alan is great at that skill. However, there will be many gotchas. It is incredible how much Suhas has shared – now it comes down to knowing what we need to know that we don’t already know and presenting the right questions to get the answers needed.

    On the Friday, having predicted I would in the morning, I fell down the rain washed, muddy marble stairs at the Lower Parel station in the evening, and broke my little finger on my right hand, my output is a little constrained, though the agony is passing. Will be back to full steam as the weak goes on. Your kind words are appreciated.

  • Bob Greenyer

    ECCO – Strange Radiation, Update

    https://youtu.be/aGfVkWKBwPs

    • Goodrice

      Could you check if it seems to affect by contact also Plexiglas (PMMA) and Teflon (PTFE)? Two other polymers of significantly different composition.

      • Bob Greenyer

        Sure Goodrice, however, as things are set up – I can only add them in a non contact way and outside the current non-contact PET. After this experiment could put some in direct contact.

        On an elemental level we know what the fuel is from EDS and the feedstock. Will get data out on the fuel asap.

        • Goodrice

          A few years ago Holmlid found when he put ultra-dense deuterium on hydrogenated polymer
          surfaces (like PE, PMMA) that some of the ultra-dense deuterium became ultra-dense protium. He suspected an isotope exchange effect with the hydrogen atoms composing the polymer material. This didn’t happen with Teflon, containing only carbon and fluorine atoms. Besides this,hydrogen-containing polymer appeared in general to have more affinity with the ultra-dense hydrogen. So this might not necessarily be (or at least, not just be) an effect of strange radiation emission from the material, but also of direct interaction with the processed fuel itself beyond what could be expected through ordinary chemical alterations.

          Source paper: http://aip.scitation.org/doi/figure/10.1063/1.4729078

          • Bob Greenyer

            Interesting, thankyou for sharing your rationale, of course, Suhas used light water, so any quantity of deuterium will be very low.

          • Goodrice

            If ordinary protium atoms in a hydrogenated material can seemingly easily exchange place and form with ultra-dense deuterium atoms in contact with it, perhaps a similar effect can happen between different forms of the same hydrogen isotope; this is what I am thinking.

          • Bob Greenyer

            ok – I get you. however, if protium gets exchanged with protium, what is the difference.

            Or are you suggestion that UD protium replaces protium?

          • Goodrice

            What would happen to the bonds of an ordinary hydrogen atom in a material when it gets replaced with an ultra-dense hydrogen atom? The dynamics are not known but I don’t imagine that they would be without structural consequences, both at the lattice level and perhaps even deeper than that.

            However, this is just a hunch of mine and it could be confirmation bias. Holmlid hasn’t reported more on the matter than what’s on the previously linked paper.

          • Bob Greenyer

            If I can find the plastic samples – I’ll try the test.

          • Goodrice

            Thanks; of course it has to be added that ordinary chemical effects would have to be tested first. PET isn’t compatible with concentrated caustic solutions and this could end up being something as simple as that.

          • Bob Greenyer

            It could be.

          • Axil Axil

            There is an effect called rydberg blockade that provides a quantum mechanical template for one Ultradense nanoparticle to produce a copy of another particle even of a different element. Potassium is used to form the ultra dense hydrogen nanoparticle when the shell catalyst is used to form the UDH..

    • Axil Axil

      See my post above on related theory.

  • Axil Axil

    As I understand ultra dense hydrogen(UDH) theory, the UHD is a superconducting nanoparticle that has a core of positive holes (protons) at its core with a covering of electrons on the outside. This particle can absorb light energy in the electron layer and convert that light energy to muons over time more with muons produced immediately after exposure to light and gradually decreasing as the stored light energy decreases over time.

    Think of this particle as a battery which stores energy and gradually goes dead without recharging.

    It is this nanoparticle that produces the strange radiation seen on the film. The energy stored on the nanoparticle is transferred to the silver particles on the film thus exposing that film leaving a track of its passage. Each silver particle removes a few hundred electron volts of energy from the particle as the track is generated.

    Under these assumptions it goes to reason that a fully charged nanoparticle will leave a more pronounced and longer tract the a discharged nanoparticle.

    Green light increasing into the ultraviolet will charge the nanoparticle into increased activity which includes leaving a more robust and detectable track on the film.

    I expect that the upcoming UV LED irradiation of the LENR ash will produce the maximum strange radiation signature on the film.

    Fresh ash will produce more robust tracts that old energy depleted old ash.

    • Bob Greenyer

      Hi Axil,

      The first test is with fresh fuel without additional UV – then with UV. The fuel has exposure to high energy focussed sound driven cavitation in light water.

      Ash will come later, though we have less of that.

      What you describe in your first paragraph is equivalent to the description of a charge cluster with entrained protons (it could be any positive ion actually). Shoulders says they shield photons, so your description of them may apply to gamma photons and may be why, as shoulders says, we do not see gamma from LENR.

      Even with the extremely short lifetime of any Muons so produced, their life is extremely long when compared to nuclear reactions they can initiate, and so the reaction would be self-supporting.

      • Axil Axil

        What you are seeing in the fuel produced by cavitation is the micro particle called the “water crystal”. LeClair took a picture of it as seen in slide 18 of this presentation.

        http://www.waterjournal.org/uploads/vol5/supplement/LeClair.pdf

        This ultra dense water based microparticle is the LENR active cause in cavitation.

        If you are into cavitation, you should understand what LeClair has discovered.

        • Bob Greenyer

          Yes I am aware of LeClair’s work, his observations and interpretations.

          • Axil Axil

            Please be careful about radiation exposure in the preparation of ECCO fuel. LeClair must have been using a hybrid fusion reaction, and not a full LENR reaction. During the generation of his fuel, Sugas may be exposing himself to radiation just as LeClair has done.

  • Bob Greenyer
  • Bob Greenyer

    Excellent Mark Leclair interview on Smart Scarecrow helps explain previously observed ECCO fuel transmutations…

    https://youtu.be/Ce3vqlIGxvk?t=1h10m11s

    Could Suhas Ralkar’s fuel production method, be the first real independent data supporting Nanospire’s claims?

    Tip off: ‎Francois Toussaint

  • Bob Greenyer
  • Bob Greenyer

    Suhas was angry at the supplier. Bad form – he wasted a month on a test of this.

    Will show fuel images, data today / tomorrow.

    The University has looked at only some of the ash samples so far, more on that later.

    • sam

      What University are you working with Bob.Can they
      help Suhas get better powders.
      I wish I was rich and had a spare million to promote
      Suhas LENR research.

      • Bob Greenyer

        ‘bad powders’ might be the key, that is why you must document what you see.

  • sam

    Comment Bob Higgins L.F.

    It is interesting to note that Suhas’ stated objective in the long ultrasonic treatment of the fuel was to make the particles smaller through comminution with the added tungsten shot. His water, and all of the other constituents of his starting ingredients should be analyzed.

    Note also that many ultrasound drivers use PZT ceramic to generate the acoustics. PZT is lead zirconium titanate. Could pieces/dust fractured from these ceramics be contaminating the lab and the apparatus?

    • Bob Greenyer

      Tungsten not used in later fuel prep and does not appear in analysis.

      We have discussed PZT at Asti.

  • Bob Greenyer

    Strange Radiation update 3 – 1 Week

    Degradation in more than just the fuel bottle?

    https://youtu.be/nBPasKfQSqc

    • HAL9000

      I would try to keep the fly away from the container that may be degrading due to “strange radiation.” You don’t want to be going off now and creating a new type of Marvel Comics monster! We have enough PR challenges with LENR as it is 🙂

      • Bob Greenyer

        haha – I did think of that.

        The PR challenges are manufactured – this is now obvious to me.