Ask the Testers (David Nygren)

Ask questions to the Working Group – ECAT long-term test

Working group will answer questions!

The authors of the long term test-report of the hot-cat had offered us the possibility to ask them a bunch of questions. Our idea is that YOU can post your question to the authors of the report.

http://www.lenr-forum.com/forum/index.php/Thread/722-Ask-questions-to-the-Working-Group-ECAT-long-term-test/

  • Alan DeAngelis

    Did the Wright brothers actually fly? Did anyone check to see if there were any thin wires that were suspending it from a zeppelin?
    PS
    It’s back to the calibration for me. Rossi needs to get on the drums.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqlBoGr82_4

    • Alan DeAngelis

      How Freudian is that?
      CELEBRATION

  • Alan DeAngelis

    Did the Wright brothers actually fly? Did anyone check to see if there were any thin wires that were suspending it from a zeppelin?
    PS
    It’s back to the calibration for me. Rossi needs to get on the drums.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqlBoGr82_4

    • Alan DeAngelis

      How Freudian is that?
      CELEBRATION

  • Ophelia Rump

    It has been said the Rossi switched the fuel core to cheat the test, what kind substitute fuel could have give the results you measured if he switched the reactor core before and after the testing?

    If Rossi only switched the used core, what might he gain from doing that?

    Did your team do further research to determine the nature of the physical process generating the heat?

    Will there be further papers coming out based upon the research you have already done?

    Will you be doing further research, into the nature of the process, and how do you plan to approach that?

    Do you know enough to speculate on whether the process could be modified to directly produce electricity, and if you understand it well to speculate, do you think that it could directly produce electricity?

    Is this in your opinion a unique area of conventional physics, or is there new physics involved which will require new theory outside standard conventions?

    Is there a potential for this to be implemented in highly dangerous ways by backyard replicators, aside from the potential to detonate small quantities of pressurized hydrogen? IE: radiation, large rapid energy releases.

    Are you free to continue research with the devices supplied by Industrial Heat?

    Do you still have possession of any working Industrial Heat devices?

    Do you have any projection for what the maximum COP for a single stage device will ultimately be?

    Do you think the process can be modified to produce rare elements from common ones?

    If you consider the energy released as coming from only the materials transmuted what might the energy density look like compared to fission fuels?

    Do you sense that you will receive reasonable treatment from the Physics community, or will you be ostracized for looking at the work of an outsider?

    How far do you think the technology is from being optimized in it’s efficiency?

    Do you have any concepts for better approaches to implement the process: Higher temperatures, meta material manufactured reaction sites, solid state cores, larger scale?

    Why do you think your work is already being attacked as savagely as it is? Is it territorial rejection of the work of an outsider, financed by special interests, rigid thinking?

    Is there much deeper new science underlying this process which might change current theory?

  • pelgrim108

    Did you do any filming besides the infra red, and in case you did, will you release them on YouTube?

    • Andrew

      Please explain the fuel loading, extraction and sampling process in further detail.

      • Alan DeAngelis

        Yes, please more details about the sampling.
        I’m assuming that this test was only the first of many. In my mind it was sufficient to determine if the effect is real (real enough for patenting purposes). I never expected this short study to be the definitive study of an entirely new branch of science. Rome and the transistor weren’t built in a day but when more E-Cats can be made available for future studies it will be necessary to dissolve all of the ash (not just a portion) in acid and then do the isotopic analysis (in a heterogeneous mixture we can’t be sure if we’re getting a representative sample).

        • Alan DeAngelis

          PS
          Perhaps I’m wrong. Maybe I’m thinking about the initial sampling of the fuel.
          PPS
          Yeah, I though the real questions should be post at the forum.

          • Andrew

            I tried to register so I can post and have yet to receive a conformation email. 6 hours later.

          • Alan DeAngelis

            Yeah, I don’t think I have that many questions for them anyway after rereading the report.
            Thanks

  • pelgrim108

    Did you do any filming besides the infra red, and in case you did, will you release them on YouTube?

  • @all: Can you please post the questions in the forum? there we will collect them and the community can vote for which questions should be sent to the authors.

    Thank you!

    • we-cat

      Barty,

      Please ask the following question;

      What would the group of testers like to test in a hypothetical next test where there are no restrictions? Why?

      Thank you,

      JB

  • @all: Can you please post the questions in the forum? there we will collect them and the community can vote for which questions should be sent to the authors.

    Thank you!

    • we-cat

      Barty,

      Please ask the following question;

      What would the group of testers like to test in a hypothetical next test where there are no restrictions? Why?

      Thank you,

      JB

  • Andrew

    Please explain the fuel loading, extraction and sampling process in further detail.

    • Alan DeAngelis

      Yes, please more details about the sampling.
      I’m assuming that this test was only the first of many. In my mind it was sufficient to determine if the effect is real (real enough for patenting purposes). I never expected this short study to be the definitive study of an entirely new branch of science. Rome and the transistor weren’t built in a day but when more E-Cats can be made available for future studies it will be necessary to dissolve all of the ash (not just a portion) in acid and then do the isotopic analysis (in a heterogeneous mixture we can’t be sure if we’re getting a representative sample).

      • Alan DeAngelis

        PS
        Perhaps I’m wrong. Maybe I’m thinking about the initial sampling of the fuel.
        PPS
        Yeah, I though the real questions should be post at the forum.

        • Andrew

          I tried to register so I can post and have yet to receive a conformation email. 6 hours later.

          • Alan DeAngelis

            Yeah, I don’t think I have that many questions for them anyway after rereading the report.
            Thanks

    • Richard Hertz

      That is the key Andrew.
      Did the testers physically observe with their own eyes that the material that was loaded into the reactor was the exact same material that was sampled as the fuel sample?
      Did the testers physically observe with their own eyes that the material removed from the reactor was immediately sampled as the ash sample?
      Did Rossi at any time have an opportunity to tamper with or manipulate the samples in any way that would cast doubt on the ultimate result?

  • Buck

    I have a simplistic question for the testers.

    Why is it a naive idea to use alumina cement to build up between and across the ridges 2-3 contact points of minimal sufficient area and then attach thermocouples to the central body of the reactor?

    The researchers spoke with concern of the specific design of the main body which enhances heat dissipation. If the attachment points reduced the heat dissipation capabilities then they could reduce the input power and still attain a target temperature.

    • Warthog

      1) Because it would totally screw up the heat transfer characteristics of a device that depends entirely on heat removal to avoid destroying itself. It would probably take a major redesign effort to come up with a “smooth outer surface” E-Cat.

      2) I’m sure they did.

  • Buck

    I have two simplistic questions for the testers.

    1) Why is it a naive idea to use alumina cement to build up between and across the ridges 2-3 contact points of minimal sufficient area and then attach thermocouples to the central body of the reactor?

    The researchers spoke with concern of the specific design of the main body which enhances heat dissipation. If the attachment points reduced the heat dissipation capabilities then they could reduce the input power and still attain a target temperature.

    2) A thermocouple was inserted into the body of the reactor as part of the control system. Do the testers have access to the readings of that thermocouple? If “yes”, can the report be updated to reflect this information and the implications?

    • Warthog

      1) Because it would totally screw up the heat transfer characteristics of a device that depends entirely on heat removal to avoid destroying itself. It would probably take a major redesign effort to come up with a “smooth outer surface” E-Cat.

      2) I’m sure they did.

  • MLWerner

    As a controls engineer I am interested in the operation of the reactor. Let the scientists worry about the theory.
    There is a chart in the report that shows the transition from 800 to 900 watts of input. Did the team gather data during startup and shutdown? Could we see a graph of those transitions? I am wondering if there is a knee in the response that would indicate the firing up and quenching of the actual reaction.
    Since the power due to the resistance is well understood any nonlinearly in the heating or cooling of the reactor would directly indicate that something else is contributing to the heat output.

  • Buck

    Does the following have merit regarding the setup and results of ITPR2?

    http://www.cobraf.com/forum/immagini/R_123566844_1.pdf

  • Buck

    Does the following have merit regarding the setup and results of ITPR2?

    http://www.cobraf.com/forum/immagini/R_123566844_1.pdf