Bill Gates Briefed at ENEA Research Labs in Italy on LENR (Cold Fusion)

There has been discussion about a recent visit by Microsoft founder Bill Gates on November 12 to the laboratories of ENEA, the Italian National agency for new technologies, Energy and sustainable economic development in Frascati, Italywhere he was given a briefing about ENEA’s research activity, including in the field of low energy nuclear reactions (LENR or cold fusion)

A post on the ENEA Facebook page about the event states:

Gates, who was accompanied by Mr Federico Head of ENEA, is interested in the activities in the field of research “frontier”. The visit lasted for a few hours and gave researchers the opportunity to explain in detail the advanced research activities of the Agency.

A report about the meeting in the Italian Newspaper Il Messaggero did not provide details about the discussions that took place there, but did mention some of the agencies and organizations that ENEA has collaborated over the years who have been involved in research in the LENR field:

“In 2010 an international agreement was signed which provides for the involvement of the Naval Research Laboratory in Washington, DC (NRL), and the University of Texas has recently expressed a strong interest to cooperate further with ENEA. They also had collaborations with the Stanford Research Institute in California [SRI] and with the SKINR Institute at the University of Missouri.”

http://www.ilmessaggero.it/TECNOLOGIA/SCIENZA/bill_gates_frascati_microsoft_enea/notizie/1008145.shtml

The picture below shows Gates being addressed by Vittorio Violante who is the LENR Research Coordinator at ENEA, and Professor at Tor Vergata University in Rome. (See here for more on Violante speaking at the European Parliament about LENR last year) . This biographical sketch for the ICCF-18 Conference states that Dr. Violante has been responsible for the ENEA Task Force for Energy from Metal Hydrogen Systems since 2011.

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Image source: ENEA Facebook page

On the Cold Fusion, LENR and Andrea Rossi Facebook page, Giuliano Bettini astutely observes that in the corner is a poster for the 15th International Conference on Condensed Matter Nuclear Science (ICCR-15) which was held in Rome in 2009.

My guess it is highly likely that Professor Violante would have at least mentioned something about LENR in this meeting.
UPDATE: Thanks to Pietro F. for the following translation from this article Italian newspaper La Stampa:

“[Gates] Arrived yesterday afternoon at four-thirty, was released just three hours later. First heard a presentation of the activities of ENEA – National Agency for New Technologies, Energy and Sustainable Economic Development – and then focused on cold fusion, frontier research in the field of nuclear fusion”

More pictures of the Gates visit are here.

The question I wonder about then is how much does Bill Gates know about LENR, and what might that mean. Gates is deeply concerned about the effects of carbon emissions on the planet and has been a strong proponent of technological innovation in the energy field to reduce carbon drastically. In a TED talk titled “Innovating to Zero” given in February 2010 he made these comments:

Almost every way we make electricity today, except for the emerging renewables and nuclear, puts out CO2. And so, what we’re going to have to do at a global scale, is create a new system. And so, we need energy miracles.

Now, when I use the term “miracle,” I don’t mean something that’s impossible. The microprocessor is a miracle. The personal computer is a miracle. The Internet and its services are a miracle. So, the people here have participated in the creation of many miracles. Usually, we don’t have a deadline, where you have to get the miracle by a certain date. Usually, you just kind of stand by, and some come along, some don’t. This is a case where we actually have to drive at full speed and get a miracle in a pretty tight timeline.

To this point, Gates focus on achieving this “miracle” has been by using new nuclear fission technology. He is a major investor in Terrapower a company that is working on developing a “travelling wave reactor” which theoretically can use nuclear waste as a fuel and run for decades without refueling. So far, however, this reactor is only in the research and development stages. It is a difficult technological challenge and it could prove to be costly in comparison with normal nuclear fission.

What if Bill Gates became convinced of the viability of LENR? He seems to have the right mindset (curious, innovative, open to new ideas) to recognize the potential of this technology. One would hope that he would not oppose it because of his own financial interests (he can afford some bad investments, I would think). He has a philanthropic outlook, spending most of his time now involved in the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation which looks to promote health and prosperity around the world — and energy is seen as a vital factor in achieving the foundation’s goals. If Gates were to endorse LENR as a ‘miracle’ power source, it would provide a tremendous boost to the field.

What would it take for Bill Gates to get behind LENR?

UPDATE: Thanks to Andre Blum for finding this video, and noticing that the last two words said by the reporter are ‘fusione fredda’ (cold fusion). Maybe some Italian Speakers can help us with the translation?

Thanks to Guiliano for this translation of the last lines or the report: “Bill Gates was primarily interested in the frontier research, in particular to the so-called cold fusion.”

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    • Freethinker

      😀

    • Billy Jackson

      I am unsure if i am ready for my e-cat to crash.. and a blue screen on a device running at 2400 degree’s Celsius in your home is just on this side of horrifying. 🙂

      • Fortyniner

        I think that should be 1400C or thereabouts, as in the recent test – a hundred degrees or so cooler than the interior of a gas boiler. Non-electronic fail-safe mechanisms should be a relatively simple matter to incorporate, just as they are in gas heaters.

        • Billy Jackson

          you are correct.. i was remembering the conversion to Fahrenheit.. O.o

      • BSOAD

        Blue Screen of Actual Death

        • Billy Jackson

          all joking aside i am excited that someone like Bill Gates is taking an interest in this. once the big names begin to get involved its nearly a done deal simply from competition alone.. if Google and Bill Gates get involved you can bet the rest are coming so they don’t get left behind on a potential world changing technology.

          While Bill is not particularly well known as a energy guy. (he has numerous investments/research in all kinds of fields0). the fact that he’s sniffing will bring the energy guys looking too

    • pg

      made me laugh

  • Joniale
  • georgehants

    Admin writes —–“What if Bill Gates became convinced of the viability of LENR?”
    Would it be fair to say that if one of the Western scientific comics where to follow the Wonderful Russian lead and print a peer reviewed editorial etc reporting the successful TPIR of Mr Rossi then Mr Gates may take the whole Cold Fusion situation more seriously.
    He may then unlike science put money into the Research effort to save lives with the Cold Fusion technology.

    • bkrharold

      Yes based on his focus on helping the poor in underdeveloped countries, that is likely. Perhaps he might want to help provide clean potable drinking water to over a billion people who are forced to use water contaminated with heavy metals pesticides and deadly microorganisms.

    • GreenWin

      George, Gates doesn’t rely on scientific comics to take action. Which is why he’s been successful. He goes right to the source. Brings his own scientists for advice, but mostly relies on intuition and gut reaction. Comics are for kids.

      • georgehants

        GreenWin, so agree but do you agree that is not the way it should be.
        All people should I think get their scientific information from good scientific sources, or why the hell are they there?

        • GreenWin

          Indeed. However, if we rely only on journals we limit possibilities. The motivated and curious (aka real scientists) will always look outside the box for new ideas. Even an “open” box has confining sides.

  • gian luca Gian Luca

    Mr Gates have a long view on strategy to take for the success.
    If Gates have a trust in LENR…..takeoff cold fusion it is garanteed
    The down Oil price……China accept to reduce greenhouse gases after
    many years of rejected….Rossi and his ECAT pass the TR….now Gates speak
    with scientists on LERN……
    The game is going…..EUREKA!

    Sorry for my english…not clear

    • psi2u2

      message received….:)

    • you seems to connect the wire well.
      Not sure but this position is reasonable.

      If on one site you suppor the idea tha LENr is a taboo that nobody can support in publi, but that at the same time any competent reader know it is real since long…
      what is hapenning, clearly supporting LENR, but never talking of it…

      note that maybe some people were informed by Industrial spying about thing I know…
      Elforsk, Statoil, there are similar big guys of that size who are more discrete in EU, in fact they are not discrete they agreed to be named but they are not yet because of strategy.

      If you are at the head of a big corp which consume energy or manufacture device that consume energy, and you don’t have a LENR partnership underway…
      you are late.

      • Fortyniner

        Perhaps there were a few other people at the briefing who stepped briskly out of frame when a camera was produced.

        • GreenWin

          DOD brass has an aversion to publicity. This is confirmation that commercial LENR is mostly out from under national security classification. Although those will continue for LENR in aerospace and military propulsion. Nice progress isn’t it Peter?

          • Fortyniner

            It does seem to be, GW – but I was always one to try to see what was hidden in the gift horse’s mouth I’m afraid.

          • GreenWin

            Hah! A good thought. I am close to Gates Foundation work and believe their mandate can greatly benefit from an LENR-based safe water program.

          • Fortyniner

            Yes indeed – you wouldn’t even need electrical power. An evaporator combined with an ammonia (absorption) condenser, both powered by an LT e-cat, would be quite easy to design.

    • bitplayer

      il tuo messaggio era perfettamente chiaro

  • Freethinker

    Interesting to see that picture.

    To me, it doesn’t matter if he gets involved or not, or if he even cares.

    What is important, is that we find him in this room, at this institute, listening to this presentation, of what with a significant likelihood is about LENR, considering who is presenting. Why would he be there, was it all bunk?

    What I would like to know, is, who are the other guys in that picture, with Bill Gates.

    In edit: The text hints one name: “was also attended by Deputy Foreign Minister Lapo Pistelli”

  • Dods

    What would it take for Bill Gates to get behind LENR?

    Stick some hippies in a garage for him to steal it off.
    Sorry couldn’t help myself.

    • Warthog

      You mean like Jobs stole all the ideas resulting in the Mac from Xerox PARC??

      • NT

        As I understand the story, Steve Jobs bought this development and the associated IP as Xerox had no use for this idea of theirs using a mouse with a rudimentary graphical user interface. There was no stealing as you imply, it was a business deal…

        • Warthog

          Yeah…after the fact, Apple threw PARC a few bucks. Jobs was always a scumbag. Xerox was stupid, but Jobs WAS a thief. He even tried to screw Wozniak…the REAL genius behind Apple. Read “Fire in the Valley” for particulars. Jobs was a “user”, out for his own benefit and nobody elses.

          And Apple selling itself as the “anti-corporate” company vis-a-vis Microsoft and IBM, was a huge joke, Apple has ALWAYS tried to get and maintain as much proprietary control as they possibly could…and still does..the company with the REAL “open architecture” mindset was Microsoft. “Wintel” built the personal computer industry…..not Apple. To the point that even Apple was forced away from Motorola into using Intel and Intel compatible chips.

          • Omega Z

            Easy big fella. 🙂
            It’s a slimy world. Let he who is innocent throw the 1st stone, There would be no stones thrown here.

      • Omega Z

        Steve Jobs & Bill Gates were cut from the same cloth.
        There is 1 difference tho, Jobs admitted taking others Ideas & exploiting them & Gates didn’t.
        Jobs has stated & pointed this out & can be found on YouTube.

        There is nothing new here. It is a common practice. I give credit to Jobs only because he publicly admitted it. Few others ever have.

  • peter gluck

    It surely had been a good meeting, Vittorio is a great personality and
    scientist plus a charming individual.

    By the way, I have tried to prepare Bill Gates for such meetings; have sent him an Open Letter in February this year:.
    http://egooutpeters.blogspot.ro/2014/02/open-letter-to-bill-gates.html

    I have explained him the great problems of Technology – for information, energy and matter and have tried to call his kind and generous attention to the New Sources of Energy
    and have invited him to read my Blog.
    He never answered- I was then informed that Bill Gates gets 4000-5000 open
    letters per month and at least ten times more closed ones, all asking for funds.
    But now everything could change and the only question iswhat will he support
    LENR or LENR+?
    Peter

    • jousterusa

      Good move!

  • Pietro F.

    He has discussed for almost three hours of cold fusion:

    “Arrivato ieri pomeriggio alle sedici e trenta, è uscito solo tre ore dopo. Prima ha ascoltato la presentazione delle attività di Enea – l’Agenzia nazionale per le nuove tecnologie, l’energia e lo sviluppo economico sostenibile -, poi si è concentrato sulla fusione a freddo, ricerca di frontiera nel campo della fusione nucleare”

    “Arrived yesterday afternoon at four-thirty, was released just three hours later. First heard a presentation of the activities of ENEA – National Agency for New Technologies, Energy and Sustainable Economic Development – and then focused on cold fusion, frontier research in the field of nuclear fusion”

    http://www.lastampa.it/2014/11/12/scienza/bill-gates-un-giorno-a-scuola-all-enea-w4oFkKdCdbOUjeLBD5PWDL/pagina.html

    • Pietro F

      “LA STAMPA”: the second most important newspaper in Italy

      • psi2u2

        Nice.

        Any thoughts on who the other gents are in the picture?

      • yes, one that was supporting il mago del petrolio before the guardia del finazia stopped him, and Il coriere della serra regularly assasinated him…

        am I right when saying that those two newspapers have very different position on innovations and technology?

        • Barbierir

          No difference at all, italian newspapers are all equally shitty

    • ecatworld

      Thank you Pietro! I have added this translation to the article above.

    • woh, great.

  • Freethinker

    A bit out of OoT but relating to the game going on behind the curtain.

    Keep an eye on Øystein Løseth, previous CEO of Vattenfall. He is also a board member in Statoil, who recently entertained Robert Godes. Possibly Øystein Løseth has a contract with Vattenfall until March 2015.

    Note that Vattenfall has early on showed interest in ECAT, and is one of the key players behind ELFORSK.

    Where Øystein Løseth will go next is unknown…

  • Andre Blum

    there is a video fragment on http://www.enea.it that shows a fuller room. Voice over clearly ends with “cold fusion”.

    • ecatworld

      Thanks, Andre! I added the video to the post above.

      • Giuliano Bettini.

        The last words are:
        Bill Gates si è interessato soprattutto alla ricerca di frontiera, e in particolare alla cosidetta fusione fredda.
        More or less…..:
        Bill Gates was primarily interested in the frontier research, in particular to the so-called cold fusion.

        • ecatworld

          Thanks, Giuliano — quote added to the post above!

        • Heath

          That is astonishing.

  • bitplayer

    The reports from the meeting demonstrate that Bill Gates knows about LENR.

    Given his history, personality, public commitment to miracle energy, and resources, I would say that it’s a safe bet that Bill Gates knows, or will very shortly know, a great deal about LENR.

    The question is, what is he likely to DO about LENR?

    Well, he’s very likely going to look for some way to put some money behind LENR. That’s what he does. He doesn’t just make supportive comments. He takes action.

    And he’s probably going to think about the very smartest way to put money behind LENR. To me, that’s the interesting thing to think about.

    And the most interesting part of that is the understanding that the LENR-space is about to explode, and that any move that he makes will be very closely watched. He knows that. I don’t think he’s in it for the money. I think he’s looking at the roadmap of the future, and trying to figure out how to seed it in a way that causes that future to be accelerated as much as possible.

    So I’m thinking, at least, university grants. I’ll bet he sets up a $100M fund (pick your number) that starts soliciting research proposals. I’ll bet we see that in within the next six months.

    At that point we’ll start seeing the VC money pour in, some of it his. I’ll bet we see that in the 12 months.

    Few of us be invited to participate. But, what is National Instruments selling at these days?

    • bitplayer

      Nah, I think at this point it will happen faster.

      “Gold discovered at Sutter’s Mill!”

    • GreenWin

      Bill’s first step should be to hire a LENR Team for the Gates Foundation. Their job will be to research and present a report (within 60 days) listing ways to best contribute to the use of LENR to address global health issues. Specifically, ways to use low cost energy to desalinate and or produce safe drinking water. Water is a key to human health at this stage. Bill & Melinda could double the impact of their foundation’s mandate, simply by making this a short term goal.

      • Heath

        Sorry, I just echoed what you said above before reading down the line.

      • bitplayer

        I think that’s right, it follows from the goal of maximizing impact.

    • Fortyniner

      Gates’ personal appearance doesn’t ring entirely true to me. I would be extremely surprised if he wasn’t already up to speed on CF through his employed advisors, and even if he’d recently discovered the topic, he could easily have sent one or two of his people to the meeting.

      However if he is already invested in LENR and progressing his own plans, then what better way to participate in the ‘rehabilitation’ of cold fusion, if that is what is now ocurring…

      • ecatworld

        He seems to be a hands-on kind of guy who would like to check things out first hand rather than sit in his office and have gophers scout things for him. I think it would be a lot more fun for him to go to the source.

        • bitplayer

          My read from his history at Microsoft is that he’s very much a hands on guy. At Microsoft he would regularly go to product meetings and ask hard technical questions. From watching him within the IT industry for 30 years I’ve always seen him as more of a geek/engineer than a mogul/visionary, compared to Larry Ellison at Oracle or Steve Jobs at Apple. Though I’d say the $81B is suffient testimony to his business acumen. He gave the reigns at MS to Ballmer to spend more time on the technology, and he’s probably smarter than most people who have EVER worked for him. He likes to make stuff happen. Learning about LENR first hand from principle investigators would be like candy land.

      • Fortyniner

        It seems from later posts that Gates has been up to speed on CF for some time and even obtained the first copy of Mats Lewan’s book, so the suggestion that he might be deliberately ‘endorsing’ cold fusion by his presence may be valid.

        As a high profile member of the financial elite, it seems likely that he is deliberately signaling that the subject is no longer taboo, and can now be reported in the MSM. IMO, this in turn probably indicates that some kind of public disclosure may not be as far away as might be supposed (this may not necessarily come from IH).

        • GreenWin

          Peter, as noted in a post above, curiously the ENEA press release spun this as a visit to their HOT fusion program. Possibly due to DARPA’s restrictions on LENR joint / contract work. BUT the non-government press has reported the facts – Gates was there to witness and catch up on cold fusion.

  • Julian Becker

    great day for LENR! If Bill Gates knows about it, I guess other people like Elon Musk, Richard Branson, the Google Guys and Mark Zuckerberg are sure to follow. I can see very well in the coming months that Industrial Heat might be bought for several hundred million dollars by the likes of Microsoft, Apple, Google or Tesla

    • pg

      And Warren Buffett. We might want to track his investment moves closely.

    • GreenWin

      Considering Google just paid $3.4B for a tiny outfit (Nest Labs) that makes “smart” thermostats and smoke alarm energy appliances – IH is worth orders of magnitude higher. However, I do not believe IH is interested in a LBO or quick sale. Their investment is in a technology that can address human suffering. I would hope that Tom Darden is driven by this larger challenge than negotiating a $20-30B buyout of E-Cat IP.

      • bitplayer

        I suspect Darden has access to all the financing the IH can absorb right now. His challenge will be to keep the other investors calm, and to maintain and extend IH’s lead. I don’t believe IH can grow like an internet firm from a room full of scruffy college kids into a multi-billion dollar valuation; you can’t download a LENR reactor (though someday maybe you will be able to, using 3D printing!) And I don’t believe they can add manufacturing or distribution capacity fast enough to keep up what is hatching at the labs of GE, Siemen, etc. So I think they’ll be looking for a buyout. Timing is everything…

        • GreenWin

          One hiccup would be if IH does not have right to sell or assign Rossi’s IP. This is often a clause that poison pills the chance to sell out to a hostile bid. Manufacturing rights to IP does not constitute ownership. And now we have a new shell owner… IPH International. Plot thickens.

  • Jimr

    A few noted professors, a few noted scientists/physicists, a few top company heads, all taking interest in LENR.
    I like the direction this is headed.

  • Warthog

    More interesting to me are the pictures showing that this was not “just a talk”.

    It was also a hardware demonstration. Note the two slides showing not one, but several tables full of apparatus.

    • psi2u2

      Interesting observation.

  • Julian Becker
  • Zeddicus Zul Zorander

    Things seem to be progressing at a faster rate than after the previous TIP report. There are lots of signs that the world and especially the business people in the world are waking up to the reality of LENR/CF. Having a guy like Bill Gates on board is a major event. Gates has an enormous network who now also may become aware of LENR. If they see the opportunities LENR offers, they may well decide to have a piece of that cake. The whole CF research could be helped enormously with the help such a network could provide should Gates become interested enough to actually support CF. Major funding for the various relevant players may be just around the corner.

    • Heath

      What makes this extremely interesting it that Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation may be looking to invest in LENR in order to bring power to the developing world which is in line with one of Tom Darden’s and JT Vaughn’s vision for the e-cat. And I can imagine that Industrial Heat LLC was mentioned as well.

      • Warthog

        And why not. Picture a shipping container. It can be air-dropped anywhere on the planet. Depending on locale, it has a thermal-electric LENR device. The device outputs electricity and heat. The heat (and perhaps some electricity) purifies water. The package also includes a computer equipped with teaching programs and information, as well as a satellite link to the global internet. The teaching program informs the villagers how to run and maintain and expand the equipment (local DC electric net to provide light and some small devices).

        • bitplayer

          “The future is already here — it’s just not very evenly distributed.” William Gibson.

          300 years of technological advancement in 1 hour. Yeah!

  • Julian Becker

    Frank, I have a capture from the content of the laptop standing at the table of the presentation Bill Gates is given. I think it shows the infrared black and white analysis of the Ecat in either the patents or the Third Party Report… Could also be from E-Catworld. Maybe sharpening the picture could help…

    Here the link:

    http://s14.directupload.net/images/141114/dzqodxgs.png

    • Mr. Moho

      Interesting speculation, however I don’t think it’s possible to get more useful information out of that blurry screenshot. There might still be hope though. Doesn’t the Italian national public broadcasting company (RAI) have a website? Perhaps one could fetch a better video there.

    • Mr. Moho

      I thought you got that capture from the TV news video linked above, but I quickly found out it wasn’t the case. So I went to the ENEA Facebook page and found this:

      https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=545349395600650&set=vb.263506500451609&type=2&theater

      If you click the “HD” button you can watch it in a higher quality. Here’s an improved version of your screenshot:

      http://i.imgur.com/c9cNBes.jpg

      • ecatworld

        Thanks — I am not sure what’s on the big screen; it doesn’t look like an e-cat to me.

        • Julian Becker

          Right. It is a ppt of something…

  • Mr. Moho

    Bill Gates has an active Twitter account but it doesn’t look like he normally answers questions there. However, there’s a chance he might write something about this meeting in the coming days. I would suggest watching that space, just in case.

    https://twitter.com/billgates

  • GreenWin

    Now the competition becomes interesting. Who can save more lives? Gates Foundation with their own brand of LENR, or the one brand proven to produce nuclear scale energy? Bill will fully explore the possibility of licensing a ENEA Frascati technology. But that is mostly older D-D electrolysis tech. E-Cat is years beyond and has a Elforsk and members supporting it. If Gates wants to get on with saving lives via global health, he’ll leverage the advantage Industrial Heat has. They are both philanthropic based.

    • bitplayer

      “We used to play for silver, now we play for lives”

  • jousterusa

    As I first revealed in my CNN story last night – I got the information very recently, so it wasn’t in the earlier version – the founders of Google have also shown interest recently in LENR and Rossi’s technology in particular. Having a major philanthropist like Bill Gates could immeasurably benefit the poor of the world, and if he managed to widely propagate the E-Cat, it might be a more significant achievement than Windows.

    • ronzonni

      It would be terrific if Gates checks out Rossi’s ecat and hot cat. Do you know if Google’s founders’ interest is about Rossi specifically? Or LENR in general? And how do you know that they are investigating it? (thanks)

      • jousterusa

        Yes, Rossi and the E-Cat, specifically…

    • bitplayer

      Perhaps interesting to remember that Gates and Ballmer bought the Windows core from a struggling company for a song, and turned around and licensed it to IBM for a fortune. I doubt he will be so fortunate with LENR, however, he does understand leverage.

    • BroKeeper

      Joe, your contribution as a political analyst with political associations is immeasurable for the LENR uninformed. Your reporting has given us some sane perspective in these dizzying economic and current events likely tied to these latest announcements.

      Yesterday’s announcements, as pointed out by Omega Z’s post, are classic examples of what occurs during Oil Crude’s market angst with LENR revelations. Being three concurrent major events added such a heavy spring weight to the market that it continued its 3.5 pt downward plunge in the early hours today. However this said, like any closed equilibrium system, it is natural to seek its own level from over-stretched forces and is counter forced in a lesser degree in opposite directions. We see this in today’s Oil Futures’ rebound effect. We can follow the LENR breakout trend (in yellow) apart from the supply and demand forces from each occurrence but its average trend is sharply downward as shown in the Sifferkoll analytical charts. http://www.sifferkoll.se/sifferkoll/

      Eventually these LENR anomalies will become commonplace enough the effects will be minimized.

      Interesting enough, if one looks closely there was a short crude oil blip downward today at 10:30AM soon after the “IH’s Patent Application Shows a COP 11!” article was posted: http://futures.tradingcharts.com/intraday/CL_Z4?anticache=1415034840

    • pg

      How do you know Google has shown interest in LENR? That would be another good piece of news

  • ecatworld

    Frank Acland

    November 14th, 2014 at 10:40 AM
    Dear Andrea,

    You might find this interesting: Bill Gates recently attended a meeting at ENEA in Frascati where he was briefed by Dr. Vittorio Violante about LENR.

    More information here: http://www.e-catworld.com/2014/11/14/bill-gates-addressed-at-enea-by-lenr-research-coordinator-what-does-he-know-about-lenr/

    Kind regards,
    Frank Acland

    +++

    Andrea Rossi

    November 14th, 2014 at 12:11 PM

    Frank Acland:
    Clearly our work is giving his consequences.
    Warm Regards
    A.R.

    • Does this mean “clearly he finds our work consequential” or something else?

    • bitplayer

      Andrea Rossi + Bill Gates = warm fusion.

      Regardless of the business relationship, I’m looking forward to the photo op.

      • hempenearth

        I reckon cold fusion is now officially cool fusion

        • bitplayer

          hoo ah!

    • Buck

      Andrea’s strange phrasing strikes again. Here is one guess:

      “Clearly our work is giving his (work) consequences.”

      • nightcreature3

        He means “our work is giving its consequences”. In Italian, inanimate objects are also referred to, as having male or female gender.

        • Obvious

          I’m going to remember that phrase to use at work one day.

  • EEStorFanFibb

    that is a fantastic article. very encouraging. thanks Frank and Frank’s helpers.

  • Dave Lawton

    For me with regards to Microsoft it was Paul Allen who had the idea`s.

    • Omega Z

      Others do the real work. Gates is the exploiter. Jobs played a similar roll at Apple…

  • A word of caution. The illuminati has many agents. I would ask that each of you search how this man is associated with Monsanto & eugenics….

    • bitplayer

      Have you looked under your bed lately? Or checked out that little door in the back of your closet?

  • JedRothwell

    The author wrote: “My guess it is highly likely that Professor Violante would have at least mentioned something about LENR in this meeting.”

    What else would he talk about? Anyway, the poster is from ICCF15 so that’s the subject.

    If anyone can make a good impression, Vittorio can.

  • pelgrim108

    Another short video from the meeting
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8Kk3xswRVk

    • GreenWin

      They all seem kind of HAPPY! Why would that BE??

      • Buck

        I believe it has to do with Prof. Violante’s private blend and roast of Coffea Arabica. You know, the espresso is very good in Italy . . . they are all over the top from a great double-shot espresso.

        Of course, they got the water from a LENR reactor in honor of John Huizenga

  • jousterusa

    The discussions below are in themselves phenomenal. They demonstrate in cold type the excitement that is growing around the E-Cat and cold fusion. It’s enough to make my palms sweat!

  • Curbina

    I was a little unsure to make much of this at the first hints of this visit from Gates to ENEA, but today’s updates the interest in cold fusion from Gates is demonstrated in a totally unambiguous way.

  • Julian Becker
  • Don’t understand Italian, but I did hear “Bill Gates” and “fusione fredda.”

  • bitplayer

    Consider the timing. Until recently they could have been seen as having poor judgment if they jumped in. Plus, they were all betting on some form of alternative energy. So as soon as they bet publicly on LENR, those investments (and people, and efforts) would be trashed.

    But with LENR credibility rapidly rising, thanks to TIR, (AND THANKS TO ROSSI !!!), they will look like they have poor judgment if they DON’T jump in.

    Plus they all want a piece of the glory, and the opportunity is evanescent.

    To more directly address your question, if we don’t see VC investment relatively soon, then we would have a real puzzle. Like, yeah, what do they see that we don’t? Or, are the part of the evil conspiracy of LENR repressors? If YOU believe LENR is real, then you have to imagine them opposing it, knowing that it’s going to break out eventually. I don’t think they would want to have to live with that decision.

    So what do you believe?

  • Gerrit

    why was Gates there?

    That is the real question.

    • Bob Greenyer

      Mats Lewan might just have answered that question over on the MFMPs Facebook – basically, he did all he could to get the one of the first copies of the first print edition to him way back in March

  • EEStorFanFibb
    • Buck

      “Well, you’ve done an incredible job explaining the evolution of LENR from the days of F&P and what it can apparently provide to humanity. I really want to get my hands around this, and help you all in any way I can.”

    • pelgrim108

      I agree

    • pelgrim108

      “Does this LENR reactor have windows and where is the mouse located?”

      • Kevin O

        “I made a few billion from a mouse, now I can make a few billion from a cat.”

    • “A priest, a rabbi and an atheist walked into a bar…”

    • EEStorFanFibb

      “I too can create tritium, but with my fingertips”

  • Robyn Wyrick

    People on this website/forum have speculated for the whole time I have been on it, that Gates, Musk etc. have had some eye toward Cold Fusion technology.

    When Al Gore mentioned it as very interesting a year and some back, I knew if he was aware of it, than the whole Davos crowd did also. Gates being one of them.

    I think we have all feared that this technology might be knocked off in its infancy, that some cabal might find a way to put the cork back in the bottle like they did in 89. But I don’t think that now.

    You can’t have all these big names involved if they intend to shut it down. You can’t have so many researchers coming up with positive results. I think the genie is out, and the only question that remains is who will declare it first.

    • Robyn Wyrick

      Of course, Darden did declare it. So maybe that is how it will unfold, one by one.

  • kdk

    Something like this is one of the things necessary for humanity’s survival. Thank you.

  • Sanjeev

    Elon Musk and Sergey Brin/Larry Page also need one copy each… just to speed things up.

  • Sanjeev
  • Axil Axil

    LENR is an enabling technology. It opens the door to new opportunities and
    new hopes. It will restore the vigor of the human spirit born to
    wonder and explore into new lands and new possibilities. From the
    dawn of human existence, when faced by imminent extinction, the human
    spirit sought out new places were existence was more assured and prospects were better. In latter times, when our forefathers suffered from the oppression levied by
    the stubborn social problems of of their birthplace: poverty,
    economic crises, class oppression, racism, prejudice, and wars, they
    packed up the rucksacks and headed for their ports of departure to
    try their luck at a new land with new hopes and opportunities. These
    places of new hopes and opportunity still exist, but in this modern
    age we must look upward to realize them.

    LENR will change the economic model of doing business in space by providing the economic leverage and energy surplus to clime into the sky where new possibilities await.

    Standing in Houston, Texas in theearly 1960s, a young and vibrant President named John F. Kennedy looked skyward and offered a new and hopeful future to his
    generation. In the middle of a Cold War, in the heart of a time when
    the threat of total annihilation loomed over the heads of everyone,
    he dared to challenge those listening to take on a higher goal.
    Rather than succumb to the darkness and fear, he held out light, and
    rather than cast what was in reality a technological face off into
    the mix of that shadow war, he held it aloft, a beacon to all who
    could hear and understand what he meant. At just the time when it
    seemed there was no choice but the continuation of a pointless global
    wrestling match which at any moment could result in the end for all,
    he spoke of choices.

    He said “We choose to go to the Moon. We choose to go to the Moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard, because
    that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies
    and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to
    accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one which we intend to
    win, and the others, too…”

    Today we must ask ourselves again to face that noble challenge. What kind of tomorrow do we want for our lives and to give to our kids? Thanks to LENR, a new choice
    stands before us. A better future is not certain is we do not reach for it.

    Our first possible choice, and the one lots of folks sometimes seem to believe is inevitable, is the worst. It’s what will happen if we keep on rolling along and do
    nothing about conserving our natural resources and descend into
    materialism and stagnation of the spirit . It is a dark dystopian
    image, a apocalyptic vision, the result of a time when all the
    world’s cultures rush to create consumer societies such as those as
    now exists in Europe, Japan and the USA. Eventually our excesses
    exceed our limits and we end up with a polluted and stripped world
    whose environment collapses, bringing down whole societies, leading
    to war, famine, the end of global culture, and the dawn of a new dark
    age.

    Our second choice is to attempt to sustain the human race on this one world through rationing of resources – at the cost of personal freedom and accomplishment- as we
    anesthetize ourselves with virtual realities and sensory distortions
    and illusions… Under the heavy hand of global Big Brother, our
    lives, actions, and even our very thoughts will be monitored and
    controlled. Imagination and innovation will be seen as threats to
    order and safety. Risk will be avoided at all cost. Our lives will
    eventually become so physically and intellectually passive that we
    finally load ourselves into banks of virtual electronic realities and
    pass the eons in a bliss of pretend adventures and paradises
    uncounted to await some global catastrophe such as an asteroid strike
    sends us into oblivion.

    Or there’s the third choice, opening the High Frontier of space and
    breaking out into the galaxy. Celebrating the spirit of exploration and individuality, we begin to truly explore and open the space around us to human settlement.
    Turning debates between free enterprise technologists and protectors
    of the Earth on their heads, we unleash the power of human
    imagination to create ways to harvest the unlimited resources of
    space, not only saving this precious planet, but also blazing a path
    to the stars. This is a tomorrow where life is exciting, new
    possibilities open up each day, and humanity spreads outwards, as the
    harbinger of life to worlds now dead. This future is characterized by
    new ideas and cultures spreading every where, the entire human race
    engaged in spreading life to the stars and a future that is ever
    expanding and hopeful.

    Opening the space frontier willalso change what it means to be human.
    The effect of the space frontier on humanity will be profound. Our pioneering
    past will spring forth and be honed sharp to drive us confident into to our
    future. Our heritage will be strong once more to once again to fill
    our tomorrows with vision and excitement. The paths set by the trail
    breakers will continue onward and upward across the stars. The
    spirit of family will be resurrected as the frontier ethics of hard
    work and familial support are reinforced through the simple need to
    survive and prosper in a hostile environment. Our relationship to the
    cosmos will change, as we throw open the doors to a unlimited
    tomorrow for all, and as we always do, offer to hold those doors open
    for all and everyone to follow. Opening the frontier will change what
    it means to be a human being. We will become a multi-planet species,
    assuring our survival, and that of the life forms for which we are
    responsible. And a child living in such times will know why they are
    alive, and be able to see an unending and ever opening panorama of
    possibility stretching out before them. Ans in those final hours of
    our lives we will look at the stars as old friends might and know
    that we have done well.

  • georgehants

    A great deal of very good news and yet strangely the number of comments on Vortex has dropped dramatically in the last week.
    Not even a mention of the Wonderful first in the World, peer reviewed, premier journal coverage by the Russians.
    http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.html

    • Kevin O

      “A great deal of very good news and yet strangely the number of comments on Vortex has dropped dramatically in the last week.”
      ***I was thinking exactly the same thing. I don’t get it.

  • georgehants

    Should the UN set up a coordinating committed to try and kick-start the Research and investigation scientifically and practically of Cold Fusion?
    Is there anybody in the World that in the 21st. century that can take responsibility for major events such as this?
    Millions dying and yet no official organisation seems to see the need for urgent action beyond leaving all the work to a few little brave, honest and True scientists.
    Science provenly has shown itself to be at present incapable of the task, who will take the responsibility to again get them back to do their jobs as scientific investigators and Researchers of important breakthroughs and possibilities?

    • georgehants

      Roger, I think you will find that most scientists laugh at the Huff because it is considered to cover topics banned by their religious masters.

    • GreenWin

      George, the UN is troublesome. It is a huge bureaucracy riddled with failed programs, graft, high turnover and inefficiency. Better I think to build a team to address location-based projects. This could operate under the UN Flag but should be independently managed. To start the team could focus on powering water purification systems like the Deka Slingshot with LENR/E-Cat.
      There is also urgent need to desalinate ocean water. A test project should be initiated to install a pilot desal unit – probably in a stable country in West Africa or possibly Saudi. Generating fresh water is an excellent transition business for Saudi engineers. Large desal plants and pipelines and maintenance is a growing industry able to absorb a portion of the oil workers as they’re laid off.

    • jousterusa

      As I just now (11:15pm ET Saturday night) reported in my story about cold fusion and the E-Cat on CNN (http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-1187686), Bill Gates actually got a copy of Mats Lewan’s “An Impossible Invention” when Mats caught up with him in Sweden in April 2014. That sort of suggests his visit to ENEA is not just tourism.

      • James Andrew Rovnak

        Great I forwarded some things to Bill several years ago on Rossi’s work. Met him years ago at a Boston Computer Society meeting . You know what happened to that organization, don’t you? Anticipate a better outcome for Rossi now. Admire his tenacious work ethic .

  • georgehants

    Paul below writes ——This is an incredibly uplifting thing, seeing in no uncertain terms that
    Mr. Gates has seen the light, as it were. This fellow has just had the
    second greatest technology of all time just fall in his lap. WOW!!
    ——
    Would it not be more “uplifting” if our scientific community where to have “seen the light, as it were.”
    He says —-“This fellow has just had the
    second greatest technology of all time just fall in his lap.” well main-line science had it fall in their lap 25 years ago and still they sit achieving nothing,
    Will the day ever come when I can write on page, a congratulations to some official area of science beyond the Russian small contribution, for even at this late stage contributing at least something to this amazing scientific endevour?

  • HarryD

    Bill Gates visited the Netherlands the day before (13th) and gave an interview on national TV on the program College Tour which was transmitted on the 14th.
    http://collegetour.ntr.nl/page/detailreacties/790373/Bill%20Gates

    Around 13th minute the topic of energy also gets touched ….. two soundbites:
    -“we need energy that is a lot cheaper and doesn’t emit CO2”
    -“we’re not ready to stop using oil”

  • GreenWin

    It’s a good thing you make the effort. Because the official ENEA press release leaves out any mention of the reason for Gates’ visit. The likely reason for this is the ENEA agreement with DARPA and possibly NRL. Those R&D agreements likely are under gag order. Still, the regular press reported the facts – Gates is catching up on LENR.

  • GreenWin

    Here’s spin and photos from S Kirvit’s petulant perspective: http://bit.ly/11caeSg

  • pg

    Lowell Wood worked with Edward Teller, one of the greatest theoretical physicist of the 20th century (father of the hydrogen bomb). I can comfortably speculate that he is a good friend with his son Astro Teller, which makes me believe that Google is for sure in the loop, if not in the race.

    • bitplayer

      http://www.astroteller.net/biography.php

      “Dr. Astro Teller currently oversees Google[x], Google’s moonshot factory for building magical, audacious ideas that through science and technology can be brought to reality.”

  • bitplayer

    Suggestion: throw in some links, if nothing else then to lenr-canr.org. I got some likes by doing that on the HP blog about the Lugano report.

  • Giuliano Bettini

    Gerardo Musuraca

    Today 16 / 11 / 2014

    Gates finances the Enea “We are close to an agreement”

    ENEA’s Commissioner Federico Testa: “Its foundation is considering to
    support some of our projects”.

    http://www.larena.it/stories/Economia/947605_gates_finanza_lenea_vicini_ad_unintesa/?refresh_ce#scroll=911

    • Giuliano Bettini

      Il motivo della sua visita? «La
      sua Fondazione», ha proseguito Testa, e cioè la Bill & Melinda Gates
      Foundation, «sta valutando di finanziare alcuni progetti dell’Enea e i nostri
      ricercatori, che stanno lavorando con risultati di assoluto rilievo mondiale,
      sono riusciti a destare l’interessare del responsabile economico della
      Fondazione, il professore di fisica Lowell Wood, stretto collaboratore di
      Gates».

      The reason for his visit? “His foundation,” he said Testa,
      namely the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, “is considering to finance
      some projects of ENEA, and our researchers, who are working with outstanding
      results worldwide, managed to arouse the interest the chief economist of the
      Foundation, the physics professor Lowell Wood, a close associate of Gates.

  • Omega Z

    Like Microsoft used in their game system. Wait? wasn’t that determined to be Linux based.
    Whew. I was concerned there for a second…

  • TJ

    Are the “travelling wave reactor” physics not identical to widom larson theory but with easy to create high speed neutrons?

    See the picture on this page: http://terrapower.com/pages/the-physics

    The only difference being high speed vs hard to produce ultra low momentum neutrons.

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