Collaborative Project Proposal: In Search of the E-Cat’s Secrets (Gerard McEk — Updated With Status Report)

The following post is a proposal by Gerard McEk who is inviting interested people to participate in a collaborative project to help people attempting to understand and replicate the E-Cat

Why is it that we can’t replicate the E-Cat or the Hot Cat? Are we really such lousy replicators, or are there other reasons? Recently Andrea Rossi published his first patent and we found that additional lithium was missing from replicators’ recipes. Some replicators immediately tested reactors,with additional lithium but again with no positive results. Clearly, the patent does contain important ingredients and information to start a LENR reaction and without it, it would not work, but we are so far still missing important information. Perhaps Rossi still keeps some secrets to himself!

I have been thinking how we can find a way of how to uncover Rossi’s secrets and came up with the methodological approach using the ‘crowd’ to quickly come to results. So how does it work?

(BTW: It is not my intention to steal the secrets of Andrea who has worked so hard to bring his E-Cat into the world. I hope his patents and his advancements will prevent anyone from misusing the secrets we may uncover, but I do believe that LENR must be understood by science and that understanding can only be stimulated when we can replicate the “Rossi effect” and positive tests can be done in any suitable lab.)

I propose that first we collect as many details as possible about the E-Cat and Hot Cat in a commonly accessible Google Document. The details will be ordered chronologically, and accompanied with the source and a remark what relevance might have, or what you think the issue is.

These details can go from known reactor designs, to remarks of Rossi, to test results to remarks about these results, etc. Every item will also have an item number, which is required for the analytical part as a reference. The items are collectively gathered by the crowd and can come from patents, E-Cat World, The Journal of Nuclear Physics, Ego Out, LENR Forum, vortex-l, books (Lewan, Cook, Nikolova) and other websites and documents, and these can be added by the crowd-members in a Google document. Commenting will be available for people to add new information, questions, etc.

I have volunteered to organize and moderate this crowd-work and I hope that many of you will volunteer as a crowd-member. Once I have sufficient volunteers I will ask each volunteer to search a certain site/document over a limited period of time for relevant items.

You can view the document here:

If you would like to become an editor of the document, you will have to have a Google account. To request access to become an editor of the document, click on the link above, and then on the blue button on the top left that reads “View Only”, and choose “REQUEST EDIT ACCESS”.  After you submit your request I can approve you as an editor.


The document may look something like this:

Date Nbr Source Information Remark
2011 1 Vessela Nikolova The New Fire p 256


Focardi does not know what the ‘secret additive’ is. That is where we are looking for
2011 2 Vessela Nikolova The New Fire p 258/259


Kullander and Essén were allowed to examine the Ecat without the cover  of its isolating case and the leaden shield (2 cm thick) at the University of Uppsala. “The reactor, which is charged with powder composed of Nickel, a secret catalyst and pressurized hydrogen gas has a volume estimated at 50 cc and is of stainless steel surrounded by a copper pipe so that the water is heated as it flows between the steel and the copper”. It contained 50 gr. Ni powder and the H2 pressure was about 25 Bar. “The process was set off using an electrical conductor. The input power was 330 W, of which 30 W was used to make the electronics work”. “They observe in their report that it took nine minutes to go from 20 to 60 0C and this corresponds to the heating due to the electric power. Instead it took just a four minutes to move from 60 to 97.5 0C”. Water only 60 0C, when the LENR process starts, but difficult to say what the internal (reactor) temp was.
2011 3 Vessela Nikolova The New Fire p 260


The control box contains mainly passive components and rectifiers.

K&E got a sample of the nickel during their first meeting with AR and a sample that comes from a reactor that was in operation during 2.5 month. “Their analysis has shown that the pure powder is composed essentially of nickel, while the powder that had been used also contains a number of other substances, first of all 10% copper and 11% iron. Though copper is not one of the additives used as a catalyst, the 63 and 65 isotopes of copper can only be formed during the process. Their presence is proof, therefore, that nuclear reactions are taking place, Kullander said”.

So no active components! How is it controlled?

In the Ecat transmutation takes place. Seems different to the Hot cat. K&E cannot be sure about the samples.



Once many of these items are collected, it can be analyzed by anyone. I am sure I will be one of them. What I would like to know, for example, is the methodology Andrea is using to come to new designs, and I hope to find hints in the many items that are collected. If you look at the items above, for example, you can see that even Focardi did not know Rossi’s secret, but did Cook?

We know that some people in Industrial Heat know how to make an E-Cat. I assume that also IH did not put that in their patent either, but a good look and a proper comparison may reveal something.

I hope this project will be helpful for all the replicators. I also hope it will open many discussions and that we will find a way to produce a stable LENR reaction soon.

A project like this will require good organization and communication, so in addition to the document linked above, I have created a forum which can be used for people involved in the project to communicate. The forum can be accessed here —!forum/rossis-secret You will need to request access in order to participate.

I trust that many of you will volunteer, because only then it becomes a small job for everyone.

Thank you!

Gerard McEk

UPDATE: Oct 28, 2015

Hi all,
We have now 10 members, including myself and Frank Acland. I intend to wait a bit longer and hope more people will join in. About 20 would be perfect.Once we start I will ask you for a short introduction, like your: nationality, (alias) name, educational level and in what, how long you follow LENR, fluency in English and other languages, preferences where you want to look and how much time you can spend on this. (Maybe you can think of other important things I should know before we start, please tell me, this is new for me too).

Based on your answers, I will select an ‘area’ for you to search for details, after which we start to work. Obviously I will do some work too in the Google Document. Does this sound OK for you?

Regards, Gerard

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