Rossi Goes to North Carolina — Working Towards Settlement?

Andrea Rossi today posted this on the Journal of Nuclear Physics:

Andrea Rossi
January 18, 2017 at 10:12 AM
JPR:
Today I am in Raleigh, N.C., with my Attorneys, but from my Team the update id good.
Warm Regards,
A.R.

It’s an interesting comment, since Rossi is normally in the Miami and reports is working hard on his QuarkX, along with the court case. Raleigh North Carolina, of course, is the headquarters for Cherokee and Industrial Heat, and the fact that Rossi says he is there in person with his attorneys may be quite significant.

A document in the court docket from January 13th, written by Thomas E. Scott, a Miami-based mediator, reports that a mediation meeting was held on January 12th between the two parties, and that the parties “negotiated in good faith,” but that no mediation was reached. He did say that he hoped they could continue to work on continued mediation in the future. (see document 117 here)

Now, six days later, Rossi and his legal team are in North Carolina. I would think that it would be normal for the attorneys for the two parties would be in contact frequently, perhaps meeting in person, but for the Plaintiff (and possibly counter-plaintiffs) to go to a meeting would seem to indicate that there was something more than legal jousting going on. I think it would take a lot to take Rossi so far away from his QuarkX reactor in this period of its development.

Of course, as with most things connected with the E-Cat story, there is not much detail to go on here. But there is maybe a sign of some kind of thaw going on.

  • sam

    Good to hear they are at mediation.

  • roseland67

    I never thought that this would go to trial,
    Either:
    Rossi and his products do not work as stated and Darden et al: were hoodwinked for 10 million by a scam artist,
    or:
    Rossi and his products work as stated and Darden et al: just threw away a license to print money.

    Neither of these scenarios are something either side wants to be public.

    And you all know where I stand

    • Rossi Fan

      Most likely, I give it a 99% chance, the outcome of this mess will be that the world will never know how many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop because there will be a gag order following a settlement. Both parties will insist on it. Rossi then will want to but can’t say anything further.

  • WaltC

    According to the 6/29/16 schedule, we’re nearing the end of the fact discovery period (2/17/17). Possibly they want AR nearby for that.

    Also, question– are depositions part of fact discovery, or does that come later? (I’d love to see those transcripts, but, for many reasons, we probably never will.)

    • Omega Z

      Depositions wont be public until after they go to court.

  • My2c

    Did Rossi bring with him the magic QuarkX ?
    He just needs to demonstrate that a QuarkX can boil a fish pond, then I am sure Darden will write a cheque.

    Rossi would only need one conclusive test of an e-cat/QuarkX by a well known, reputable institute (not by some kitchen or garage tinkerer), then his name would fill all news headlines, and every jury would decide in his favor.

    So, why doesn’t he take that easy path?
    (Easy only when the e-cat works a claimed)

    • Omega Z

      Let me guess.

      You just arrived here from another world and have no clue how things work here on Earth.

    • Jonnyb

      If Rossi did this then the price would go up considerably!!

    • Billy Jackson

      he did have one.. the 31 day test.. but of course its dismissed because he was on the same planet as the testers thus tainted the test

    • Pekka Janhunen

      Boiling the bond isn’t quite enough, also the knowhow must be transferred to Darden if he’s to pay.

  • Omega Z

    Dardens own engineer has acknowledged excess heat.

  • Gerard McEk

    It is clear that neither IH nor AR will profit of full disclosure of the Ecat technology, that may happen if this civil process continues. Therefore a settlement can have value for both parties and mediation may work.
    Maybe also the QuarkX plays a role in this….
    Just crossed my mind:
    Would it be possible that the whole legal affaire is just set-up to be part of a publication stunt?

    • Brokeeper

      No, I don’t think so. Once the demonstration is completed, it will be hard to deny it’s world implication benefits to any future juror. Who then would want to be remembered for impeding it’s progress (except the oil companies).

  • Rossi Fan

    Has any of you considered the possibility that IH might be working on behalf of the DoD or CIA? They sent IH to find out if Rossi is real. Ha ha! If that’s the case he is going to pull a Walesa or Yeltsin. When the US bribes an elected president they go nuts. Start talking nonsense. Not that Rossi made much sense from the get-go. The matter will settle with more cash than just the $10M front money and a gag order. End of story.

    • Sam

      I have considered the possibility that IH is not a CIA front company. In case people not realised, IH who are set to arrange a ICCF are taking money from individuals who openly speak of wetwork.

    • sam

      If that is the reason why would he even say he was in N.C.
      And then report problems with
      the QuarkX from there.
      And then say he was going to
      have the test after the Court Case.
      Even though I like following A.R. blog I think it might be
      better to be like Mills and Godes and give out less
      information.

  • Jonnyb

    I just hope Woodford is still involved with Rossi in some way after this.

  • Bob Greenyer
    • georgehants

      Bob, with the millions of pages released, I think they as usual would all have been checked ten times to make sure that nothing honest or worthwhile is released, or all the Whistle-blowers who help people know the Truth would not be put in jail.

      • Bob Greenyer

        Sometimes people with the worst intentions let things slip and there is a lot of sometimes in this number of documents.

    • artefact

      “temporarily unavailable. We apologize for the inconvenience. Please try again later.”
      Hey, not all at once 😉

      • Bob Greenyer

        haha

        • Stephen

          I guess the panicked. The were expecting a whole load of searches for Aliens and UFO’s but I guess after your post suddenly got 10,000 searches for LENR 😉

          • Bob Greenyer

            haha – yeh… Tie everyone up, but it backfired

    • In case you’re all wondering, “Stargate” was code name of the U.S. government’s first official Remote Viewing or psychic espionage project. (The documents here are referred to as Stargate 1 or SG1.) It later was run by the DIA at Fort Meade but started out at the CIA. Research was conducted by SRI in Palo Alto. And some of you wanted me to leave this out of my CF videos on YouTube?

      • Bob Greenyer

        Thanks for the detail, and never be shamed into not speaking your mind, even if one is wrong in the end, being open is the fastest way to iterate to the truth.

  • sam

    Keerthi Redd
    January 19, 2017 at 2:20 AM
    Dear Dr Rossi:
    We notice that you are ignoring all the debates in the blogs related to the litigation: why?

    Andrea Rossi
    January 19, 2017 at 9:36 AM
    Keerthi Redd:
    The proper place to discuss issues regarding the litigation is the Court, where evidence is deposited. Besides, my Attorneys have forbidden to me to talk od any issue related to the litigation in the blogs.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

    Andrea Rossi
    January 19, 2017 at 9:33 AM
    Michael:
    Maybe.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

    JPR
    January 19, 2017 at 4:56 AM
    Update?

    Andrea Rossi
    January 19, 2017 at 9:32 AM
    JPR:
    Right now I am in Raleigh, NC, but from the factory I have been informed of a problem.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

    • Karl Venter

      There goes the FEB demo
      “but at the factory I have been informed of a problem”

  • US_Citizen71

    If they had kept to the contract it would be theirs to use. But, they never paid the final installment so the IP is no longer theirs to use. IH knew about the HotCat and the QuarkX before they made the choice not to pay. So I do not think this is a likely scenario.

  • roseland67

    Arnd,

    Do you believe this?

  • Holmid zapping hydrogenated foil with laser pulses and calculating a COP 450 in the form of a flood of high speed kaons (and pions and muons).
    http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0169895

    Gee I wonder if any exotic science is happening in hydrogen loaded metal lattices? Maybe we ought to look into that.

    • Axil Axil

      Will you begin looking for muons in your experiments?

      • Are you asking me or Holmid?

        • Axil Axil

          Holmlid has invented a peer reviewed muon detector that he has used extensively and regularly. I am asking you who may now understand that this method is so important to copy.

          • I don’t run experiments.

          • Stephen

            Is the detector easy to build and the method easy to replicate?

            I must admit I’m also curious if muons ars observed and if so if their energies, direction etc can give us better insight into the process that generates them. Even a negative result would be interesting as it might suggest related but different processes occur at different energies or different levels of disruption. I know you have said as much many times. It would be interesting to see for sure though if its possible.

            Unfortunately I’m also not an experimenter.

  • That is correct. I probably didn’t consider that a settlement but rather Rossi giving up the lawsuit and IH winning. But of course you’re right.

  • I have to admit my assessment hasn’t advanced much. I expected the result of the one-year 1MW test to be of crucial importance, but since it was never released, and also disputed, we haven’t come much further. In the end, the only thing that counts here are conclusive and repeatable experimental results, and we still wait for them.

  • sam

    Is it I.H. that does not want you to believe what A.R. says or just
    D.W. himself.
    Has T.D. said that Dewey speaks for I.H.?

  • sam

    Tom Conover
    January 24, 2017 at 6:13 PM
    Dear Andrea,

    May I inquire if the heat transfer again had to be increased? Thank you for your answers to Frank, and the many others that openly try to encourage you in your work.

    Tom

    Andrea Rossi
    January 24, 2017 at 6:15 PM
    Tom Conover:
    Yes, we found a very brilliant solution.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

    JPR
    January 24, 2017 at 3:30 PM
    Update?

    Andrea Rossi
    January 24, 2017 at 4:00 PM
    JPR:
    Got a good restart,
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.