Celani Reports from ICCF-17

A brief report from Francesco Celani at the ICCF-17 conference was posted on 22passi.blogspot.com today. He seems understandably to be in good spirits and there are signs that the LENR cell which he is demonstrating at the conference might be getting some welcome attention. That the Korean TV is getting interested should be encouraging to those who are puzzled why there is so little media attention to this story.

Dear Daniele,

Everything has worked out well and better than expected. The article (5 pages) at NIWeek is the same as that of ICCF-17: you can publish it.

Other news of interest:
1) I’m sending you my presentation (about 1.5 M): you can publish it on the net.
2) Yesterday we reassembled the reactor…
3) After a brief local recalibration (about 2 hours) on the reference input power (48W), with hydrogen, the reactor SLOWLY but surely started to produce excess heat. Currently, after about 20 hours of operation, we have reached about 14W!
One of National Instrument’s engineers from the US came for the software part; he was helped by two other NI engineers from Seoul.
4) MIRACLE: even the arch-skeptics from NRL (US) have complimented me. Thus, green light.
5) In the evening, Korean TV will come and make a detailed report on it

NB: it’s complicated to make contact. EVERYBODY is looking for me. The phone lines are often filled out.

See you soon,
Francesco CELANI

Thanks, AB!

  • Ivan Mohorovicic

    Admin: the link to the presentation in your blogpost is wrong. This is the correct link, as from 22passi:

    http://www.22passi.it/downloads/Celani_ICCF17_Trasp3.pdf

    • admin

      Thanks for letting me know, Ivan!

    • K

      After quick reading the Celani paper, it seems that it is the MOTION of the protons trough the (nano-structured) lattice that causes LENR to happen, and not the COMPRESSION of the protons, as stated before.

      So the mistake was made in 1989 on the presentation, when the statement was made that the huge compression caused the nuclei to fuse. Now Celani proves that it is not the compression, but the motion.

      One “arrow” pointed wrong, made the whole scientific community search in the darkness where there was nothing to find.

      The Italians found it.

      • daniel maris

        Wow – if you’re right that is remarkable.

      • Ged

        It could be a “compacting” effect. Since the lattice has holes and vacancies that can trap atoms, and then they can pile up. ELTB theory would have that attempt at motion, and the vibrational resonance with the lattice, lead to a bose-einstine condensate; two particles existing as one virtually on the quantum level, and then fusing literally into one, as they are pushed together.

        It all comes together very nicely; theory and experimental evidence.

  • zero

    An interesting project that started up just recently.
    http://blog.scienceexchange.com/2012/08/the-reproducibility-initiative/

    It’s called the “Reproducibility Initiative”. Basically you submit your research, and it’s given out to a bunch of selected scientists across the country who blind test it, and you’re responsible for the tab. This seems exactly like what LENR needs right now to crank awareness. The Athanor and the Hydrotron seem like the perfect candidates.

    If only I had money.

    • Jon

      Well, that is what kickstarter is for. There are enough people who see the promise of this technology that we may be able to cover the costs. What could it cost for say 3 reproductions? I would put it at around 30,000 each for materials and labor ( after all these scientists gotta eat! )

      If Celani starts a kickstarter, gets it verified with the reproducibility initiative, then I see no reason why the 90 grand couldnt be collected over a couple months time… lets say 1000 people believe in this (90 bucks a pop). Perhaps someone with some weight in the LENR community could convince him to do so?

  • Venno

    Looks like the Mayans were thinking of LENR when they thought the world as we know it would end?

    • tom h

      maybe … but they could of quite as easily been talking about the coming economic collapse and the absolute carnage and chaos that will accompany it.

      of course i hope for what you said but ….

      • GreenWin

        tom, collapse and carnage are your choice. If you prefer to see steady transition, lifestyle improvement, and abundance – you will.

    • Francesco CH

      It is a usual joke for me:

      “…and the Maya knew it…”

  • Niemand

    Rossi recently at 187th changed his story. He stated that COMPLETE REPORT will published in Scientific Magazines (yes, magazineS) at Sept 8

    • Ged

      It would indeed take magazines (plural) to hold that report! Can easily split up different sections into different papers.

      Looks like Celani lit a fire under Rossi!

      • Job001

        More likely US patent law change. March 16, 2013 first guy published has much higher legal patent standing. Expect transparent; Less hidden and more published.

        • GreenWin

          Exactly Job001. The patent naysayers will founder on this. Nice to see the entire composition playing so well! Music to the ear!

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  • mikes44

    Rossi is claiming that he is working directly with Siemens’ R&D centre on another major innovation…any thoughts? That’s quite a claim is it not?
    Andrea Rossi
    August 15th, 2012 at 7:49 AM
    Dear Joe:
    The next big step is in preparation between us and the Swedish Siemens R&D center.
    Warm Regards,
    A.R.

    • Kim

      Its pretty obvious that Siemens has gone
      through the numbers and realize that they
      have a generator that will work!

      Heck I can do some quick calculations and
      figure that out. Its a Win Win situation

      Trust me they are falling all over themselves
      trying to get things lined up.

      Respect
      Kim

      • Stringbustr

        I just hope the powers that be will let this continue.
        maybe the Genie is far enough out that it can’t be stopped.

        • edog

          I think it might be too far advanced for anyone to put the brakes on now!
          Lets hope so and spread the good news.

          I might even give a bit of LENR a go myself… doesnt look that hard!

          🙂

          • edog

            Thank you Celani for not keeping secrets!!

            Im going to have a LENR BBQ,
            Hot tub.
            Swimming pool…
            and house boat (see you on the water Kim!)
            summer house out in the desert somewhere (an LENR oasis)
            and the winter ski lodge!

            just think of all the places that are uninhabbited that I will be able to go and mess up!!!!

            change brings changes guys!!

            I really do love the houseboat idea!!! with a silent engine! wow!!

          • MIles

            Yes. The e-Cat is out of the bag. The OIL Companies ought to be worried.

    • daniel maris

      Hey – that was my intro! (over on Independent ECat News) LOL…

    • DaveS

      Not sure if this has already been posted, but relates to the above comment on Siemens in Sweden:

      Andrea Rossi
      August 8th, 2012 at 10:04 AM
      Dear Jake Di Vita:
      There is a limit due to the fact that nickel melts at 1455 Celsius degrees, but we will have to heat water, so the actual limit will be 600 Celsius when we will go to make steam. At 600 Celsius the efficiency will be around 50%. Wre are working on this, now, with our Friends of Swedish Siemens Friends. When we told them we reached 1 200 Celsius they became lyric.
      Warm Regards,
      Andrea

      • Kim

        Yes I remember that Post by Rossi

        Thats what I mean; when I say that
        he has siemens attention.

        50% is huge and very do able.

        Respect
        KIm

    • GreenWin

      Probably matching up the 15MW e-cat with the SST-150:

      The SST-150 is a single-casing steam turbine, proving geared drive to a 1,000 or 1,800 rpm generator respectively geared or drive for industrial applications. The turbine is packaged in a skid-mounted design. For power generation, it provides high efficiency together with a compact arrangement.

      • Kim

        Sounds Good to me.

        Lets
        Get Er Done!

        Respect
        Kim

    • Omega Z

      This has been out for a little while.

      Encouraging that there has been NO Denial on the part of Siemens.

      • GreenWin

        Let’s get pragmatic. OBVIOUSLY LENR commercial viability is proven. Why bother with “They deny this, or we don’t have proof of that.” Commerce has no respect for the “scientific method.” Too bad for the eggheads. Had Edison to wait for egghead verification of his phonograph, motion picture camera, or light bulb – we’d still be huddling around coal fires at night looking at our own shadow.

  • georgehants

    The time is fast approaching I think when main-line establishment science must face it’s Nemesis.

    • Kim

      You would think.

      It don’t work with money. That is why.

      Respect
      Kim

      • Kim

        Energy is Money

        If you flood the world with Energy
        you have flooded the world with Money

        The Science is Proven. the bankers are
        standing at the gates.

        Flood the world with free energy and
        the bankers go away. (the problem bankers)

        As long as their is money in this world
        and the need to protect the pile, then
        gangster type mentality will prevail.

        If their is plenty of energy. then people
        have unlimited options and freedom’s

        Respect
        Kim

        • GreenWin

          Kim,

          E=M+vpC2 where vp is the unknown quantum virtual particle?? Anyway, money will play a role. But a LOT more people will have energy than have ever had it before. Money will decrease in importance as we’ll no longer need piles of it to pay for gasoline, electric bill, heating, water, etc.

          • Kim

            Yes money will slowly diminish
            in importance.

            Do you think that highly advanced
            race of people from half way across
            the galaxy are coming here to ask
            if we have change for a twenty?

            Respect
            Kim

          • georgehants

            Everything should be based purely on productivity, no profit, no finance, no economics just the least number of workers needed to do the job.
            Everybody could retire at 50.
            No rich and powerful, just everyone achieves for society and not themselves, no unemployed, just all working less.
            Technology should free us not lead to higher retirement ages and women with children having to work, crazy.
            The less people working at real jobs the better, not the more working and wasting their lives.

          • Kim

            Life is energy.

            Life is not Money.

            georgehants your commnets tell
            me you are awake.

            Tell others.

            The science is proven.

            Respect
            Kim

          • Andrew Macleod

            We are almost there already! Money isn’t the problem, it’s just a common bartering tool. The real problem resides in intrest rates. This is where the rich get richer and the poor get poor. Intrest is a fairly new concept in fact it used to be outlawed by the church. Borrowing money is a form of self slavery and lets people live beyond their means(at a price).

          • Iggy Dalrymple

            georgehants – no profit, no finance, no economics just the least number of workers needed to do the job.
            Everybody could retire at 50.
            No rich and powerful, just everyone achieves for society and not themselves, no unemployed, just all working less.

            Retire early because no salary, no stuff, no food, no innovation, no job, no internet, no ammo to fight off takers. Just piddling around naked in the garden hoping the veggies will grow without fertilizer.

          • GreenWin

            Ig, there is a self sustenance plateau in growing season when the veg supplies nutrition and the excreta supplies the fertilizer. Alas, as winter sets in, the fruit diminishes.

            Hence the need to develop LENR desktop alchemy, where, shhhhh, we can turn lead, into gold!

        • Chris

          Serious?

          You seem to have no idea of what “money” is and you neglect some egregious things.

        • Paul Stout

          Try paying your doctor bill with energy and see how far you get. The relative value of many things will not change with cheap energy.

          • Andrew Macleod

            Not at first… The first adopters of cold fusion as an energy source will see higher profits as their bottom line is reduced. As the tech is more widely used business will use the lower bottom line as an edge to gain competitiveness by lowering prices to increase sales. If widely used the world could see inflation stall or even reverse it slightly.

          • GreenWin

            To empower the earth’s population we need some 60Twatts. Today we consume about ten. Someone is going to make a lot of money raising the standard of living for 4.5 billion people.

            Takers? Or should we fuss around with windmills for a century??

          • georgehants

            Iggy, you disappoint me with your assumptions and no questions.
            That’s how Cold Fusion was delayed for 23 years.

          • Mannstein

            At a minimum my house heating bill should change. With the money saved maybe I can afford Paul, the flim Flam Man, Ryan’s health insurance plan.

      • Ivan_cev

        This field of research is called cold fusion, because once a researcher produces something that should be reproduced the others turn COLD!!!!

        Mr Celani, how are you planing to share the tech around the preparation of the wire???

        Is the info given enough for replication?

        • Ivan Mohorovicic

          Celani stated in his presentation that a paper dedicated on that is in preparation, so I guess we will eventually see one at some point.

        • Ged

          It is more than enough for replication. There’s even scanning electron micrographs of each stage.

          • Ivan_cev

            Where? are this pictures?

    • Andrew Macleod

      I hope they hang their heads in shame….. If they still have them.

  • Exciting days to come …

    • dragonX

      Very!
      I like that 20MW Siemens turbine SST-150 (needs only 505C steam) that can use Hot Cat ((600C steam output). I hope that is what Rossi meant when he said they are working with Siemens for a new solutions (electrical solution).

      • GreenWin

        To Barry and Patty Simon: Thank you for this absolutely lovely tribute to Martin Fleischmann in words and music. You guys bring right brain sensitivity to this revolution and should be ordained LENR Artists in Residence.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Et39OA2DYXE

        • edog

          Nice!
          Thanks guys

          • Kim

            Very good Comment BodhiD.

            I am always amazed that People like who have the
            knowledge think we have all the time in the world

            For God’s sake we live day by day now wondering if
            they will pull the nuclear trigger.

            We are on the edge and people worry bout making money…

            There will not be an economy left to spend that money
            if people don’t start to wake up and see where we
            are at in time.

            Respect
            Kim

        • Kim

          God gives us people like Martin Fleischmann

          and we throw them away for the love of money.

          Thanks for the Tribute.

          Thats it.

          Respect
          Kim

        • Hampus
        • freethinker

          Very nice work Barry and Patty.
          For me you capture the sense of loss for us all and the great injustice served Martin Fleichmann himself by people serving more their own greed and egos than science and truth.

          • Barry

            That last sentence sums it up. Thanks all.

  • BodhiD.

    Dr. Rossi wrote: “on the 8th of September we will publish on scientific magazines the complete report”

    Thanks God, this very important non-delaying act maybe will thwart another illegal war. After publication of this important complete report and maybe some visible real operation of real E-Cats in real industrial duty – there will absolute obvious that ALL classic nuclear powerplant are technologically obsolete.
    Iranian Ayatollahs are educated men and with this important informations these will capable soon analyse, that their nuclear powerplants and thousands centrifuges are obsolete, unnecessary and oldfashioned iron. There is high probability they may order shutting off of this hardware in such new situation.

    With Iranian nuclear powerplants and centrifuges out of duty, Sionist leaders will lose their excuse for another aggression, another illegal war.
    Northern hemisphere will saved from thousands tonnes of radioactive dust from debris of eventually bombarded installations.
    Dr. Rossi – not only as inventor, as peacekeeper too

    • Kim

      Very good Comment BodhiD.

      I am always amazed that People like who have the
      knowledge think we have all the time in the world

      For God’s sake we live day by day now wondering if
      they will pull the nuclear trigger.

      We are on the edge and people worry bout making money…

      There will not be an economy left to spend that money
      if people don’t start to wake up and see where we
      are at in time.

      I have hopes for what miram Keshe has to say
      in September also. Perhaps he can convice the
      world. to give it up.

      Respect
      Kim

      • jfab

        LOL! Kim and BodhiD, what a double act!

        • dragonX

          🙂

    • Ivan_cev

      Celani has shown 14 glorious watts, this is hundreds of times more prove and transparency than ever rossi has shown.
      God bleess you Francesco Celani!!!!.. Thanks.. for making the dream a reality.
      soon this 14 watts tech will be developed to terawatts of energy!!!!!

      • Kim

        Yes, I agree.

        Respect
        Kim

    • jacob

      Good point

  • Roger Bird

    Oh, come on! Be honest. You really think that those Italians are cute and adorable. And their accents are particularly cute and adorable. It’s not politically incorrect. You can still respect them. There is no reason why cute and adorable can’t also be brilliant and powerful. In fact, I always say never underestimate the power of sweetness. That is not too far from never underestimate the power of cute and adorable people.

    • Well said. Mutual respect, first of all!

    • MPB

      What kind of comment is that? Do you think “maybe I should keep this to myself”. It’s called a filter, use it.

  • captain
    • Barry

      HEH HEH HEH! This is genius! HEH HEH!

      • Barry

        If you need a good laugh, watch this video by Hank Mills.

    • Barry

      Thanks captain

  • s

    Although I have always believed LENR worked in general, I still require proof of individual claims. I won’t believe Celani’s results until a reputable, independent third party runs Celanis setup, or a setup of their own design, and verifies these results are real and repeatable.

    • jacob

      just buy a 1 megawatt unit, already for sale

      Nobody seems to go out of their way to impress all
      the unbelievers.

      so sad for you s