New Interview with Aldo Proia, E-Cat Licensee

The International Business Times has published a new interview with Aldo Proia, CEO of Prometeon srl, Italian Licensee for the E-Cat. Prioa covers much of the same ground that he has discussed in previous interviews, but there are some interesting points worth mentioning.

  • When asked whether he is sure of the E-Cat’s validity, he says that he has never had any doubts. He says that he has researched the technology thoroughly using qualified physicists and engineers who had access to information through confidential channels. Proia states:

We knew that the maximum COP apparatus – taken to extremes not be proposed because commercially unstable – was about 200, a tremendous value. This means that even if Rossi had missed a measure of energy by a factor of 2, there would be no particular problems to ensure the customer the COP 6 guaranteed, because essentially the E-Cat is a Ferrari that is made to walk like a turtle.

  • Proia hopes that eventually the Italian government might encourage the E-Cat as a means of saving businesses money, and thus spurring the hiring of employees.
  • He mentions that he has had lots of interest — 2000 emails in a month and a half, but he now must turn his attention to customers.
  • He sees no serious competitive threat to the E-Cat on the horizon — the only threat that could come, he says, is from someone who got unauthorized access to Rossi’s technology.
  • Payback on the thermal E-Cat is estimated at less than five years, and beyond that time,  a savings of about a quarter of a million Euros per year.
  • He mentions that both Leonardo and Prometeon monitor the web and keeping track of malicious comments about E-Cat technology. He states that there could be future lawsuits against people who spread falsehoods to damage the business interests of the companies.

A Google translated version of the article can be read here.

 

  • Andrew Macleod

    5 yr ROI is pretty good. This is a good way to bolster economys and let business flourish, once enough units are in operation they will gather huge amounts of data helping further their domestic ecat efforts and increase capital to expand. I think it’s a solid business plan.

  • It’s good to hear from a hard-headed businessman who is also a true believer. We will need a lot of these to bring this technology into the forefront of the electrical-generation mainstream.

    • Ivan_cev

      They still need to prove they able to constently produce heat! lets ask Rossi for heat, the rest will came by itself.

      • Warthog

        The “Nanor” device demonstrated at MIT produced documented excess heat for MONTHS ON END, yet your (and others) denial of reality continues. Standard skeptopath propaganda.

  • admin: Proia, not Prioa. In several places including title, sometimes also correct though.

  • Max S

    shutdownrossi.com is back online

  • Th comments on Defkalion having stollen E-cat technology does not remind under scrutiny…
    I don’t know if DGT had guessed e-cat catalyst, but clearly they no more use it and they choose another way.
    If Proia is right with the COP 200 claim, which is possible yes unstable, it appears that Defkalion choose anothe engineering compromize to allow faster control, better stability, yet more complexity and less maximum COP…

    those company have done a good job, and some public relation mistakes, yet Rossi is clearly the leader is bad communication and bad management.

    if those company don’t succeed quickly to be on the market, I can see 1 US and 2 european company that can deliver later, after some already startes research…
    and I don’ talk about the silencer like nichenergy, lenuco, the japanese, the chinese…

    time to be serious and stop playing the snake and the clowns, chasing the libel case.

    Time also for Rossi to stop playing the smoke screen to keep LENR not credible, hiding good results, because other companies will win credibility before.

  • georgehants

    The Guardian home
    The Observer home
    Series: … on science
    Nuclear fusion – your time has come
    Harnessing nuclear fusion to create cheap, safe and sustainable energy used to be a futuristic joke. But its day is almost upon us.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2012/sep/16/nuclear-fusion-iter-jet-forshaw

    • Adam Lepczak

      George,
      This actually looks like a huge fail when compared to the E-Cat. Did you read the price tag on these projects?

    • Alan DeAngelis

      I don’t think it will fit in my basement.

    • Despite their perhaps opposite meaning, this sort of journalism is actually welcome preparation of societal ground for cold fusion to take seed.

    • Tokomak hot fusion reactors produce prodigious amounts of fast neutrons which destroy the very materials of which the reactor is composed. It is likely the entire concept will be made moot by the impossibility of maintaining a reactor that would pay for itself before its life expires. A better idea is aneutronic hot fusion of protons and boron: http://deadstickarizona-zedshort.blogspot.com/2012/06/alternate-path-to-cleaner-brighter.html

      • But alas, boron fusion is next to impossible because its plasma is so hot that bremsstrahlung cooling (thermal emission of X-rays) is much larger than fusion power density, and both depend in the same way on plasma density so increasing it doesn’t help. It might work only if X-rays could be efficiently turned into electric energy outside the reactor, part of which would be pumped back into the reaction to keep it hot.

        Similar problems concern He-3, although to a lesser extent, besides the fact that He-3 is practically nonexistent on earth.

        • Follow the link provided. I wrote the article with the help of Dr. Lerner of Lawrenceville Plasma Physics Laboratory (LPP) http://lawrencevilleplasmaphysics.com/ who with his people are working on proton-boron fusion. They have made a theoretical breakthrough w.r.t. bremsstrahlung. There is a quantum effect that prevents those losses at very high magnetic fields densities. The x-rays supposedly can be captured via the the photoeletric effect in multiple layers of foil. I think the article is readable and replete with links to their sources most of which are from LPP. BTW Dr. Lerner worked with Dr. Miley years ago and he told me that if Dr. Miley really believes there is something to LENR then there probably is.

          • I remembering hearing about it. I’m however quite suspicious how one could have gigagauss magnetic fields to invoke said quantum effect. The magnetic pressure of a gigagauss field is quite enormous, millions of times larger than what structural materials could tolerate.

          • The field is produced when the currents flowing between the anodes into the cathode come together and shortly form an instability that creates something like a knot that collapses. The knot is about a millimeter in diameter and the gradient is extreme and is formed in a plasma free of conventional materials.

          • But if it’s a transient phenomenon, is “Mr. Lawson” happy?

          • Not sure what you mean. The proposed p-B reaction would be cycled about 3000 times per second.

      • Mannstein

        Inertial fusion using high powered lasers might be a better approach than the magnetic confined method. No neutron flux to worry about.

        • The inertial confinement experiments at Lawrence Livermore National Lab are being conducted to gather data that can be used as benchmarks for the testing of computer code written to represent nuclear explosions for the purpose of designing atomic weapons. The power generation story is a cover story for weapon research. They have not a chance of turning such a scheme into a power reactor.

  • Chris

    Now that is interesting. Glad they are receiving plenty of mail.

  • What is holding back the eCat?

    Capitalism.

    • Chris

      Actually, Capitalism is showing quite an interest in it. The only thing it needed was to believe in it. It is beginning to believe in it.

      Capitalism is interested, with due diligence, in anything that’s a good competitor for a given purpose. The competitors of LENR are losing their campaign against it, enrgy hungry enterprises are starting to believe.

      That’s how it works.

    • I’m not sure if anything is actually holding it back.

  • John

    What we really know from this article is that a bunch of contracts were signed and someone bought some business cards.