Making E-Cats in the Garage (or on the Couch)

I thought this exchange today here between Mike Ivanov and Mats002 summarized nicely what we might start seeing as a result of the work of Alexander Parkhomov. If you look closely at the picture below from Parkhomov’s report you will see that the experimental setup appears to be in a living room.


Mike Ivanov:

After Parkhomov experiment I start thinking to build home heater based on this design, for personal usage. Heating is very expensive in Canada….


Yes why not? I hope Rossi/IH will be very successful with industry but in the mean time garage tinkerers might be setting the stage for domestic use. My concern is safety. Some parts might better be prepared by professionals

Mike Ivanov:

It could be already a good time for smart entrepreneur to start selling DIY kits online. heating wires, ceramic pipes, Hi, Li, etc – nothing special so far.

This is the way many technological revolutions have begun…

  • wpj

    I wouldn’t like to see Joe Public playing about with lithium aluminium hydride even if they could get it ; I’ve seen one undergraduate set it on fire in a nitrogen filled glove box! Even nickel can ignite when dry depending how it is made. It’s going to be easier to get the equipment than the chemicals.

    I am also doubtful on the dog/bone replication if they only have water based cement as it won’t take much water to destroy it (can’t understand the use of argon then air then wet cement either).

    • Mats002

      I agree on the safety issue. Like computer builders in the early 80:s had to buy the CPU, the sealed core with Nickel powder and LiAlH4 (or whatever used, I guess there are many possible solutions) should be bought from professionals with all the knowledge and safety procedures in place. There might be more issues as well.

  • I think MFMP has the potential to start a spin-off (maybe non-profit like raspberry pi embedded computers which were intended for third world countries and education purposes) company which produces such kits and cartridges of powder. So the customers don’t have contact to the toxic credentials.

    • Omega Z

      It may be best suited for University lab tests. I believe that was MFMP’s original intention. Kits for lab tests. Multiply duplication of data.

      I don’t think home kits are a good Idea. I’d hate to see the home heater regulated out of personal ownership before it ever had a chance because people got careless.

    • we want LENR Fusione Fredda

      Arduino, etc…

  • Warthog

    I urge caution, both from a chemical and radiological safety standpoint (I am a chemist with a bit of radiochemical background). I am just reading Mats Lewan’s book (excellent! and explains many of the “incomprehenisble” jigs and jags the Rossi story has taken…highly recommended), and in the early days of the Rossi/Focardi collaboration, in one runaway excursion experiment Rossi “did” see neutrons. So apparently there are different pathways the reaction can take with more and different radioactivity formed.

    • No.
      Levi told to the reporter a second hand account of Focardi:
      when one of the first e-cat exploded they had bubbles on the neutron detection gel. But the shockwave of the explosion could have caused them too.

      Given we do not hear about neutrons (or dead people) in the last few years, neutron production is, at worst, trascurable or, better, not existant.

    • Fyodor

      the other thing is that unless Rossi comes out with some sort of broadly available commercial product (which doesn’t sound like his model), real acceptance will only come from broadly reproducible experiments. That’s what will open the floodgates to popular belief and the funding/research that comes with it.

      • Obvious

        I will be testing an RS-230 super spec. It is made for U, Th, and K decay measurement, but is pretty sensitive, and records a downloadable gamma spectra, in instant readings and a continuous log. It can detect a banana in a box of silica sand.

  • Ged

    The water. Gotta boil it all off first, otherwise the heat of vaporization absorbs the excess energy and does not allow temps in the room to rise much. Probably no different than a water heater, and less than wood stove.

    • Curbina

      I find it sensational to see science being done in a simple yet robust way. However, and precisely regarding the calorimetry, and even more precisely regarding the wet/dry steam chat we had the other day, there is already a “Know it all” anonymous skeptic bugging Peter Gluck in his last blog’s comment section.

  • Ged

    Haha, so true! Definitely one of those “don’t try this at home” disclaimers is very needed.