Rossi Promises a Revolution in the Production System (Larry Jameson)

The following post was submitted by Larry Jameson

A comment and response from the Journal of Nuclear Physics yesterday:

Dr Andrea Rossi:

The National Research Laboratory of the US Navy has published a report in which implies you are the leader of the LENR and cites a long list of potential future competitors of Leonardo Corp. Which of the list you think is more likely to be able to compete with you in the future?
Thank you,
Anonymous

Andrea Rossi
October 3rd, 2015 at 4:42 PM

Anonymous:
As you know, I never comment the work of our real or virtual competitors. Obviously we will have competitors: this is the reason why I will put Leonardo’s products on the market only when our production will have the economy scale necessary to make close to impossible, if not totally impossible, compete with us. You have no idea what I am inventing (F9). It will be a revolution in the production system.

Warm Regards,
A.R.

F9 – refers to Rossi’s standard disclaimer which is “if the results of the one year test are positive but could also be negative”.

Rossi’s Blog: http://www.rossilivecat.com/

I wonder what he might mean by this. Is he referring to flooding the market with his tech or is he referring to some new pricing model for energy or is he referring to possible direct electricity production from the E-Cat X

It sounds exciting whatever it is, almost diabolical, mwah ha ha!

Larry Jameson

  • EEStorFanFibb

    the navy research labs did what? is this common knowledge?

    • SG

      Would also like to see a link to the Navy report if anyone is aware of one.

  • pg

    The Navy story might be a fake.

    • Hi all

      I am presuming it came from the IEEE event at Teradyne https://meetings.vtools.ieee.org/m/35303 but I too would like to see confirmation from the author, a matter for the attention of Frank Acland 😉

      We know the US Navy has had a black budget LENR project for some time, anti Rossi character Mr. Krivit may have lost his security clearance because he reported on one of their conferences a while back, seem to remember him being castigated for it.

      Other unconfirmed sources put the US Navy black budget for LENR research at $7 Billion. We know that they have an LENR team because some of their research papers and their patents are now public knowledge. Only those who still have a seccurity clearance will know more.

      Kind Regards walker

      • ecatworld

        Although it has been rumored, as far as I am aware there has never been any confirmation that the US Navy was the military customer who got an early E-Cat plant.

    • I got the slides via paul mahler confirmed by Albert Opdenaker
      of DOE (at least he controls a DOE mail address)

      no news about navy working on LENR… an old story.

      • Jarea

        An email in a slide can be changed.

        • to spoof google sendmails is much harder.
          nothing new in those slides, and the LENR commitment of deChiaro and Opdenaker is nothing new.

  • Bob

    I restate state my opinion….. “I will put Leonardo’s products on the market only when our production will have the economy scale necessary to make close to impossible” is a folly. (Or that we will never see the Leonard Product) Industrial heaters are NOT that high a volume of product. So there is not enough market to even require a mass production. Yes, there is a lot of requirements, but often they are not one single model, requiring many options. Not lent to mass, mass production. Home Heaters are more mass commodity products, but Rossi is not talking about these. He is talking about Industrial Heaters. There is NO mass market for a single model unit. Is he stating he will not reveal the 1mw plant until home units are on sale?
    .
    Ford Motor Company revolutionized high volume mass production. Ford was very successful. Ford still had MANY competitors and within 10 years, market share was a war of price, innovation and quality. Mass production was not nearly enough to capture the market.
    .
    This is nonsense about becoming the premiere mass production specialist in the world. Concentrate on making the eCat work and be reliable.

    • Omega Z

      –>”Industrial heaters are NOT that high a volume of product.”

      WOW, You Really don’t know how things work.
      Nearly everything around you involved the use of heat. From the food you eat, the clothes you wear. The flooring material in your home to the fabric on your furniture and everything used to build your home. Much of it was processed with heat at multiple stages.

      The market is huge. It would also require only a couple variations. Low/Medium/High temp systems would cover most all needs. As to scale, that merely requires adding additional modules. Like a N-gas furnace, just add additional burners. 2 burners provide 40k Btu and 6 burners make it a 120k Btu. About 20K Btu per burner depending on who’s tech.

      As to Rossi, if you follow JONP, you would know he expects competition. However, if their priced cheap enough, Many will just license IH/Rossi’s technology. It’s simple economics. How much time & millions will it take to create their own technology.

      As to those who would reverse engineer the E-cat reactor, Only to gain an understanding. They will not copy it because it is covered by patent. They will try & create their own technology.

  • Bob Greenyer

    His wafer design lends itself to continuous manufacture – but that I mean the four layers of 1mm steel, fuel, mica and heater layers can be coming of rolls – Cut, crimped and welded continuously.

    • Omega Z

      That sounds very similar to Lithium battery production. The cheapest way to manufacture them, but still not cheap.

  • Brent Buckner

    We have been told that IH has rights respective of China and the United States. In light of the respective regulatory regimes, I would not be surprised by a plant in China that would first supply units for installation within China.

    On a value-per-kilogram basis I’m not sure that shipping costs from China to the U.S. would be prohibitive (especially if any required shielding were incorporated at installation sites). Based upon China’s WTO membership I’m also not sure that tariffs would be prohibitive.

    Perhaps IH and Leonardo plan different approaches for their different geographic distribution areas, and much of what we read from Rossi is respective of his plans for Leonardo.