me356 Emerging?

Thanks very much to ECW reader Dodger for posting today here a video which he says he has heard via ‘reliable rumor’ that the video posted here is from the famous but mysteriously reclusive me356 who has reportedly worked extensively on developing LENR systems.

To back up the ‘reliable rumor’ claim that the video comes from me356, Dodger also posted the following image which shows an image coming from a previous test of me356, and it appears that the test was taken in the same location as in the video — it looks like a fireplace to me. http://me356.lenr-forum.com/Padua_reheat__8.jpg

As you can see from this video, the system that is producing the steam is not shown, so we can learn very little from this video alone, and certainly there’s no proof of LENR from just showing a plume of steam. However the fact that he (or someone) has posted this video may be an indication of more information to come. Bob Greenyer has said me356 has told him that when he is ready he will allow the MFMP to test his system.

So it will be interesting to see if we get more from me356 in the near future.

  • Gerard McEk

    Quite a few are waiting on ME356’s promised revelations for a long time. I hope they arrive soon.

    • nietsnie

      Yes – we have (and I count myself among those). And I think it says a lot about our anticipation that we will now discuss at length about a video of a stone wall and a small steam pipe.

      • artefact

        But I have to say, discussions about steam dryness ar premature 🙂

        • Epi

          Nice one 😀

        • Jas

          How thick is the pipe?

          • artefact

            DN80. That is obvious! Look at the stones in the background. They are the same like the ones used for the Egypt pyramids. They are huge.

          • Bob Greenyer

            That’s too funny – made my day.

          • Bob Greenyer

            The lagged pipe in the background is a standard plumbing pipe.

          • Jas

            I was making a joke. After all the fuss on the Lenr Forum about Rossi’s pipe being DN40 or 80.

          • Bob Greenyer

            Rossi – Rossi who?

        • nietsnie

          What can we know from the available data? The wall is made of bricks. At about 0:22 we can assess the approximate height of the camera using the angle of two walls and the location of the first row of bricks as a reference. This, and the reasonable assumption of standard Western bricks, allows us to deduce that the cameraman is around 6 feet tall – could be Eastern European. Presuming that the first row of bricks is very close to the floor, the business end of the steam pipe is around 2 feet from the ground. At 0:31 the camera gets very close to the steam pipe. Ergo, we can deduce that the cameraman does not believe the steam is radioactive. This *could* indicate that the apparatus connected to the other end of the pipe is either a relatively low energy e-cat design – or, alternately, a hot plate with a steam kettle. Or – possibly something else…

          • Bob Sheeter

            From the fanout angle (estimated at 18 degrees) and the known max speed of steam in air we can conservatively estimate the vapor speed at more than 125mph! However, the surface upon which the steam is impinging does not show the extensive wear that would result from such a torrent over a long period of time: ergo, this represents a recent advance in steam production.

          • nietsnie

            I think I know where you’re going with this… because I was thinking the same thing. Illuminati – right? That brick and mortar wall design is identical to the design that was commonly used by them during the 18th, 19th – and even into the 20th century.

    • roseland67

      Gerard,

      What exactly did me356 “promise”?

      • Gerard McEk

        MFMP helped ME356 with apparatus and knowhow in the expectation and also with the promise that progress would be shared. Progress was claimed but nothing was shared, which is very unfair to MFMP.

        • The narrative was that me356 was on the verge of sharing when he started getting concerned about some safety issues and went radio silent until he could get a better handle on how to make the reaction both obvious and safe.

          So nothing provable shared yet, with plausible delay motivations and a renewed commitment to share within months. We’ll see if he comes through or if he’s just another poser.

          • Bob Greenyer

            He will come through

      • SG

        He has said in times past that he is no Rossi and he is going to eventually make public his findings.

      • Max Temple

        He promised to share all the info needed to successfully replicate the NiH effect. Then when he learned how to create H1 on demand, turn the excess heat on/off, set the COP at whatever level desired, and produce unwanted emissions, he became worried. It is time for the info to be shared.

  • Gerard McEk

    Quite a few are waiting on ME356’s promised revelations for a long time. I hope they arrive soon.

    • nietsnie

      Yes – we have (and I count myself among those). And I think it says a lot about our anticipation that we will now discuss at length about a video of a stone wall and a small steam pipe.

      • artefact

        But I have to say, discussions about steam dryness are premature 🙂

        • Epi

          Nice one 😀

        • Jas

          How thick is the pipe?

          • artefact

            DN80. That is obvious! Look at the stones in the background. They are the same like the ones used for the Egypt pyramids. They are huge.

          • Bob Greenyer

            That’s too funny – made my day.

          • Bob Greenyer

            The lagged pipe in the background is a standard plumbing pipe.

          • Jas

            I was making a joke. After all the fuss on the Lenr Forum about Rossi’s pipe being DN40 or 80.

          • Bob Greenyer

            Rossi – Rossi who?

        • nietsnie

          What can we know from the available data? The wall is made of bricks. At about 0:22 we can assess the approximate height of the camera using the angle of two walls and the location of the first row of bricks as a reference. This, and the reasonable assumption of standard Western bricks, allows us to deduce that the cameraman is around 6 feet tall – could be Eastern European. Presuming that the first row of bricks is very close to the floor, the business end of the steam pipe is around 2 feet from the ground. At 0:31 the camera gets very close to the steam pipe. Ergo, we can deduce that the cameraman does not believe the steam is radioactive. This *could* indicate that the apparatus connected to the other end of the pipe is either a relatively low energy e-cat design – or, alternately, a hot plate with a steam kettle. Or – possibly something else…

          • Bob Sheeter

            From the fanout angle (estimated at 18 degrees) and the known max speed of steam in air we can conservatively estimate the vapor speed at more than 125mph! However, the surface upon which the steam is impinging does not show the extensive wear that would result from such a torrent over a long period of time: ergo, this represents a recent advance in steam production.

          • nietsnie

            I think I know where you’re going with this… because I was thinking the same thing. Illuminati – right? That brick and mortar wall design is identical to the design that was commonly used by them during the 18th, 19th – and even into the 20th century.

    • roseland67

      Gerard,

      What exactly did me356 “promise”?

      • Gerard McEk

        MFMP helped ME356 with equipment and knowhow in the expectation and also with the promise that progress would be shared. Progress was claimed but nothing was shared, which is very unfair to MFMP.

        • The narrative was that me356 was on the verge of sharing when he started getting concerned about some safety issues and went radio silent until he could get a better handle on how to make the reaction both obvious and safe.

          So nothing provable shared yet, with plausible delay motivations and a renewed commitment to share within months. We’ll see if he comes through or if he’s just another poser.

          • Bob Greenyer

            He will come through

      • SG

        He has said in times past that he is no Rossi and he is going to eventually make public his findings.

      • Max Temple

        He promised to share all the info needed to successfully replicate the NiH effect. Then when he learned how to create H1 on demand, turn the excess heat on/off, set the COP at whatever level desired, and produce unwanted emissions, he became worried. It is time for the info to be shared.

  • Adam Lepczak

    Why the Fuhrer bunker?
    The only thing missing is some creepy pipe organ music:
    https://youtu.be/7JQXgn-cubQ
    And some dude in the background screaming: “I HAVE THE POWAAAAA”..

    And then he’ll disappear for another few years.

  • In waiting for some more tangible news I noticed that optimism are turning back towards the LENR+ community and technologies. We have seen some great promotion and large funding for both Brillouin Energy Corporation and Brilliant Light Power.

    In the Rossi debacle, a few people have stood their ground, questioning information without giving in to threats, bribery and ridicule, lo and behold they are now coming up on top. Much of what was suspected FUD one year ago now turn out to be exactly that.
    The situation does not look as clear for IH as it once did and some parties with better insight than most of us are shrugging their shoulders negligent actually believing that Rossi have the upper hand.

    They are not backing down at all – for now.

    Those that are attacking LENR+ are now back peddling on their claims, retreating and seems nervous and irritated. They said it was a sure thing, but it seems now their claims was rather thin. I think more and more it’s becoming easier to see that these “IH Experts” does not exist. No matter the situation, IH clearly hasn’t run a very tight ship.

    Not just this, maybe we are starting to see other are also growing tired of IH, possible indications that IH are not doing as well as they would have us think when they spoke about confidence in their investments.

    When you use arguments such as ‘Cockroaches are going to be stomped’ it’s probably not an indication of strength, greatness and swag. This is fear, intimidation and fakery. Those that have seen Jackie Chan or Bruce Lee movies knows very well, those with great Kung Fu does not talk down to people, they are confident in their martial arts.

    Did we hear Rossi write that he would bomb people and crush them like bugs? No, that guy is focused and he is playing to win. The fact that he doesn’t shows that he is much more confident than IH et’al.

    Rossi is swagging!

    Obviously if Rossi has the technology he claims, he would not be very concerned because he would have the upper hand and if he released his technology, it would be game over. Unfortunately for us he hasn’t.

    Instead he is trying to beat IH in their own game. Rossi is clearly mad, he is fighting to win.

    While i detect an growing optimism around LENR+, this video by Me356 unfortunately haven’t contributed to it. Me356 – if you want to prove your Kung Fu you gonna need better swag than this!

    • Max Temple

      The force is strong with Me356. He shall return.

  • Me356 – if you want to prove your Kung Fu you gonna need better swag than this!

    • Max Temple

      The force is strong with Me356. He shall return.

  • radvar

    I am not particularly sympathetic to the secrecy, however, I’m entirely sympathetic to the desire for privacy.

    • roseland67

      And safety

  • Zephir

    /* this video does not look like it took place in a typical R&D setting. More like an old basement.*/

    Providing that his setup generates neutrons, which would make most metals radioactive, I wouldn’t get very surprised, if me356 would move all his experiments into the basement. Note the freshly made hole in the brick wall behind the reactor – it’s probably made for ventilation of radioactivity from the experimental room. He apparently deals with really dangerous stuff.​

    • IIRC Bob Greenyer said that me356 conducts his experiments in a shed away from his main property by remote control.

      • Zephir

        Well, at least the blue wire ends in the hole behind the wall. But which remote control you we could except the regulation of reactor power?

        • I don’t know his exact setup… just relaying what I recall being described.

        • US_Citizen71

          The wire looks like an ethernet cable so I would assume control would be through a PC or equivalent.

          • Zephir

            A person was standing there recording on what appears to be a smart phone.
            This is also what I’d expect today for remote control.

          • Rene

            And that person standing there suggests he’s safe (or ignorant), but since I suspect that is me356 doing the videography, it is running rad safe. And so two questions for me356: Has he circumvented the issues that were causing radiation (and need for his interesting out building bunker test site), and is he willing to share the recipe and process.

          • Bob Greenyer

            me356 uses a custom built controller software hardware combination – based on standard Arduino and rPi.

        • roseland67

          US,

          It’s not cat 5/6, looks more like coax to me?

  • Zephir

    /* this video does not look like it took place in a typical R&D setting. More like an old basement.*/

    Providing that his setup generates neutrons, which would make most metals radioactive, I wouldn’t get very surprised, if me356 would move all his experiments into the basement. Note the freshly made hole in the brick wall behind the reactor – it’s made for “remote” manipulation with reactor from outside the fireplace ventilated into chimney, where the reactor is placed. It’s actually quite clever arrangement, as the chimney provides perpetual draught. Me356 apparently deals with really dangerous stuff.​

    • IIRC Bob Greenyer said that me356 conducts his experiments in a shed away from his main property by remote control.

      • Zephir

        Well, at least the blue wire ends in the hole behind the wall. But which remote control you we could except the regulation of reactor power?

        • I don’t know his exact setup… just relaying what I recall being described.

        • US_Citizen71

          The wire looks like an ethernet cable so I would assume control would be through a PC or equivalent.

          • Zephir

            A person was standing there recording on what appears to be a smart phone. This is also what I’d expect today for remote control.

          • Rene

            And that person standing there suggests he’s safe (or ignorant), but since I suspect that is me356 doing the videography, it is running rad safe. And so two questions for me356: Has he circumvented the issues that were causing radiation (and need for his interesting out building bunker test site), and is he willing to share the recipe and process.

          • Bob Greenyer

            me356 uses a custom built controller software hardware combination – based on standard Arduino and rPi.

        • roseland67

          US,

          It’s not cat 5/6, looks more like coax to me?

  • Rene

    This video does a great job of hiding the source of the steam. The camera is handheld and the movements carefully keep the generator just out of frame. Why? Maybe me356 can explain?
    Also, I can well understand why he would site his testing in shielded areas if he is seeing radiation. But then why is he seeing significant radiation (neutrons? muons?) while other experiments have not. It has been a long time since Rossi said he solved that problem of, as he called it, “side reactions” that were not necessary for LENR.

    • US_Citizen71

      The most obvious reasons would be contamination of the fuel or materials the reactor is built from. The contamination may be from the source and have nothing to do with his handling.

      • Rene

        It could be that. The other small LENR experiments did not show those signs, so maybe it is related to the formulation and process that enables the possibility of LENR+. Of course, only Rossi and maybe me356 have claimed LENR+ success.
        I look forward to reading me356’s thoughts on the problem.

        • Zephir

          /* The other small LENR experiments did not show those signs */

          The other small LENR experiments didn’t use the hydrogen discharge at all at the first line. Why they should provide similar results, after then?

          • Rene

            Because there is no evidence either way yet.

      • roseland67

        US,

        The most obvious reason is there is no radiation

      • Horshu

        IMO, the most obvious reason is that the video is just a teaser.

  • Rene

    This video does a great job of hiding the source of the steam. The camera is handheld and the movements carefully keep the generator just out of frame. Why? Maybe me356 can explain?
    Also, I can well understand why he would site his testing in shielded areas if he is seeing radiation. But then why is he seeing significant radiation (neutrons? muons?) while other experiments have not. It has been a long time since Rossi said he solved that problem of, as he called it, “side reactions” that were not necessary for LENR.

    • US_Citizen71

      The most obvious reasons would be contamination of the fuel or materials the reactor is built from. The contamination may be from the source and have nothing to do with his handling.

      • Rene

        It could be that. The other small LENR experiments did not show those signs, so maybe it is related to the formulation and process that enables the possibility of LENR+. Of course, only Rossi and maybe me356 have claimed LENR+ success.
        I look forward to reading me356’s thoughts on the problem.

        • Zephir

          /* The other small LENR experiments did not show those signs */

          The other small LENR experiments didn’t use the hydrogen discharge at all at the first line. Why they should provide similar results, after then?

          • Rene

            Because there is no evidence either way yet.

      • roseland67

        US,

        The most obvious reason is there is no radiation

      • Horshu

        IMO, the most obvious reason is that the video is just a teaser.

  • Bob Greenyer

    I recognise the wall as being similar if not the same as me356s outbuilding lab.

    You can see images on our website. A sample is here.

    http://www.quantumheat.org/index.php/en/home/mfmp-blog/510-celani-rossi-mash-up-me356

    I conclude that this video is indeed from me356

    • Frank Acland

      Thanks, Bob

    • Dodger

      Thanks Bob, this undoubtly proves that it is me356’s location. Just compared the pictures:
      https://i.imgur.com/Prp51Qw.jpg

      • Bob Greenyer

        There you go!

        • doug marker

          Excellent detective work 🙂 – it looked a reasonable match but with that telltale mark it is as good as proven. Thanks Bob.

          • Bob Greenyer

            Actually, it is the lagged pipe that gives it away

      • Max Temple

        If he is ramping up to share his knowledge, I’m excited. We need the step by step fuel treatment protocols now more than ever.

    • TOUSSAINT francois

      Hello Bob,

      Nice to hear you !

      • Bob Greenyer

        Holiday nearly over – oh no!

  • Bob Greenyer

    I recognise the wall as being similar if not the same as me356s outbuilding lab.

    You can see images on our website. A sample is here.

    http://www.quantumheat.org/index.php/en/home/mfmp-blog/510-celani-rossi-mash-up-me356

    I conclude that this video is indeed from me356

    • Frank Acland

      Thanks, Bob

    • Dodger

      Thanks Bob, this undoubtly proves that it is me356’s location. Just compared the pictures:
      https://i.imgur.com/Prp51Qw.jpg

      • Bob Greenyer

        There you go!

        • doug marker

          Excellent detective work 🙂 – it looked a reasonable match but with that telltale mark it is as good as proven. Thanks Bob.

          • Bob Greenyer

            Actually, it is the lagged pipe that gives it away

      • Max Temple

        If he is ramping up to share his knowledge, I’m excited. We need the step by step fuel treatment protocols now more than ever.

    • TOUSSAINT francois

      Hello Bob,

      Nice to hear you !

      • Bob Greenyer

        Holiday nearly over – oh no!

  • Epi

    Dodger, do you have the possibility to find out what the reason for this video is? Is this some kind of teaser or more a “I am not dead yet”?

    • Max Temple

      He repeatedly promised to release all the info needed for people to replicate – even if he has been very slow about it. Hopefully, he is realizing keeping the info to himself serves no purpose. Of course in one sense he told us a lot. He probably expected the LENR community to do more with what he shared. But it looks like he is going to have to walk us through his process step by step – especially fuel treatment.

  • Max Temple

    Me356 is likely to blow us away with a massive revelation that re-confirms and builds upon the original extensive work of Focardi and Piantelli. Unlike what some people would like to make others believe, I think that NiH based cold fusion is far simpler than we expect – if you can nail the fuel pre-treatment. Then enhancing the surface area and supplying a source of atomic hydrogen can boost the effect high. I’m making no promises, but this is my sincere opinion.

    • Pekka Janhunen

      Agreed. I thought earlier, but I’m no longer sure, that LiAlH4 would somehow clean the surface so that no lengthy vacuum pre-treatment is needed. If vacuum treatment is needed, it has not yet been so much explored by the thus-far open replicators.
      Another area which has not yet been explored so much by replicators is the AC waveforms.
      Molten lithium-containing metal can dissolve some ceramics. Thus if a ceramic part has locally melted in an explosive event, it may not necessarily imply that the temperature reached above the ceramic melting point.

      • Zephir

        Max Temple is just inventing stuffs, which he never did try, not to say he replicated cold fusion successfully – so he couldn’t be trusted. For example, some other patents recommend the repetitive oxidation and reduction cycles instead for to get porous surface of nickel instead. The cleaning would remove the existing pores and it will open the internal ones, where the pressure could be formed – so you may get exactly the opposite result instead. The LENR scene is flooded with such armchair theorists who are just contributing to the informational noise.

        • Karl Venter

          I quite like Max Temple summation of possibilities in LENR
          Your criticism is noted in your wisdom of LENR
          Do you have a theory? On how it works and to replicate or are you just criticizing

        • Pekka Janhunen

          Do you think the pores (or whatever small scale structure one needs) can survive Lugano/Parkhomov (>1000C) temperatures? I find it unlikely although cannot prove the opposite. This would be in principle experimentally testable.

          If they do not survive the operating temperature for the entire duration of the run, then the structure must be somehow repeatedly re-created. Maybe repeated melt-freeze cycle (with melting point lowered by lithium) where the freezing for some reason makes some needed small scale structure.

          I believe there can be more than one route to some wanted small scale structure, but the question is if that is enough in the sense of giving a long enough LENR episode that one can recognise it by calorimetry. If not, then one may have to go to the structure re-creation way.

          • Zephir

            /* Do you think the pores (or whatever small scale structure one needs) can
            survive Lugano/Parkhomov (>1000C) temperatures? I find it unlikely
            although cannot prove the opposite. */

            Well, exactly. This was actually one of my arguments regarding Max Teples’s theories about significance of pores and cleaning the surface.

          • LCD

            The mystery of the high temperature non-melting has never been properly addressed. We all sort of glossed over that.

        • Max Temple

          Insults and mockery: that’s all that comes out of your fingers. The truth is that I’ve suggested many different types of pre-treatment should be tested so we can learn what works, what doesn’t, and how to optimize. One of the central themes I’ve suggested (because replicators who have obtained results have told us it is needed) is vacuum degassing. This is something that should be tested with intentionally baked and chemically reduced nickel and nickel that has been cleaned by various processes without intentional oxidation. And I’m not making this up, regardless how loud you want to scream: Piantelli and Focardi vacuum degassed their fuel as well. Unless you think the papers on LENR CANR and other websites are just hoaxes. Me356 also said that getting vacuum pumps would, “solve lots of problems” and Christos Stremmenos stressed the importance of vacuum degassing.

          • Zephir

            /* Piantelli and Focardi vacuum degassed their fuel as well */

            This is supposed to be an argument? For what? Just because I know the papers on LENR CANR, I don’t require the armchair theorists without any papers.

  • Max Temple

    Me356 is likely to blow us away with a massive revelation that re-confirms and builds upon the original extensive work of Focardi and Piantelli. Unlike what some people would like to make others believe, I think that NiH based cold fusion is far simpler than we expect – if you can nail the fuel pre-treatment. Then enhancing the surface area and supplying a source of atomic hydrogen can boost the effect high. I’m making no promises, but this is my sincere opinion.

    • Pekka Janhunen

      Agreed. I thought earlier, but I’m no longer sure, that LiAlH4 would somehow clean the surface so that no lengthy vacuum pre-treatment is needed. If vacuum treatment is needed, it has not yet been so much explored by the thus-far open replicators.
      Another area which has not yet been explored so much by replicators is the AC waveforms.
      Molten lithium-containing metal can dissolve some ceramics. Thus if a ceramic part has locally melted in an explosive event, it may not necessarily imply that the temperature reached above the ceramic melting point.

      • Zephir

        Max Temple is just inventing stuffs, which he never did try, not to say he replicated cold fusion successfully – so he couldn’t be trusted. For example, some other patents recommend the repetitive oxidation and reduction cycles instead for to get porous surface of nickel instead. The cleaning would remove the existing pores and it will open the internal ones, where the pressure could be formed – so you may get exactly the opposite result instead. The LENR scene is flooded with such armchair theorists without experience who are just contributing to the informational noise.

        • Karl Venter

          I quite like Max Temple summation of possibilities in LENR
          Your criticism is noted in your wisdom of LENR
          Do you have a theory? On how it works and to replicate or are you just criticizing

        • Pekka Janhunen

          Do you think the pores (or whatever small scale structure one needs) can survive Lugano/Parkhomov (>1000C) temperatures? I find it unlikely although cannot prove the opposite. This would be in principle experimentally testable.

          If they do not survive the operating temperature for the entire duration of the run, then the structure must be somehow repeatedly re-created. Maybe repeated melt-freeze cycle (with melting point lowered by lithium) where the freezing for some reason makes some needed small scale structure.

          I believe there can be more than one route to some wanted small scale structure, but the question is if that is enough in the sense of giving a long enough LENR episode that one can recognise it by calorimetry. If not, then one may have to go to the structure re-creation way.

          • Zephir

            /* Do you think the pores (or whatever small scale structure one needs) can survive Lugano/Parkhomov (>1000C) temperatures? I find it unlikely although cannot prove the opposite. */

            Well, exactly. This was actually one of my arguments regarding theories about significance of pores and cleaning the surface. It really has no meaning to spend time with cleaning and preparation of nickel surface and after then to expose it the conditions, which would destroy it immediately.

            http://www.e-catworld.com/2016/10/09/looking-for-heat-publishes-proposed-protocol-for-nickel-hydrogen-lenr/

          • LCD

            The mystery of the high temperature non-melting has never been properly addressed. We all sort of glossed over that.

        • Max Temple

          Insults and mockery: that’s all that comes out of your fingers. The truth is that I’ve suggested many different types of pre-treatment should be tested so we can learn what works, what doesn’t, and how to optimize. One of the central themes I’ve suggested (because replicators who have obtained results have told us it is needed) is vacuum degassing. This is something that should be tested with intentionally baked and chemically reduced nickel and nickel that has been cleaned by various processes without intentional oxidation. And I’m not making this up, regardless how loud you want to scream: Piantelli and Focardi vacuum degassed their fuel as well. Unless you think the papers on LENR CANR and other websites are just hoaxes. Me356 also said that getting vacuum pumps would, “solve lots of problems” and Christos Stremmenos stressed the importance of vacuum degassing.

          • Zephir

            /* Piantelli and Focardi vacuum degassed their fuel as well */

            This is supposed to be an argument? For what? Just because I know the papers on LENR CANR, I don’t require the armchair theorists without any papers.

  • Max Temple

    He repeatedly promised to release all the info needed for people to replicate – even if he has been very slow about it. Hopefully, he is realizing keeping the info to himself serves no purpose. Of course in one sense he told us a lot. He probably expected the LENR community to do more with what he shared. But it looks like he is going to have to walk us through his process step by step – especially fuel treatment.

  • R101

    ME365, please come back, we miss you.

    • Zephir

      OK, so he will return and he will tell us few more details about his reactor: temperature, voltage, hydrogen flow speed. He will show us some graphs with COP in range 10 and 40, a neutron measurements.

      What next, after then? Will you start with replication, if you didn’t do it during whole last year – or what?

  • R101

    ME365, please come back, we miss you.

    • Zephir

      OK, so he will return and he will tell us more details about his reactor: temperature, voltage, hydrogen pressure used. He will show us some graphs with COP in range 10 and 40, a neutron measurements.

      What next, after then? Will you start with replication, if you didn’t do it during whole last year – or what? From your behavior I seriously doubt it – you’re apparently a type of person, which will not do anything without some leadership.

      The free energy is about change in paradigm in thinking the most – it’s about private initiative. The people who are adhering on corporate based mindset and who are waiting, that someone else will make the progress instead of them are predestined to remain dependent on corporate based energy sources.

  • Zephir

    More info from Me356 would be indeed welcomed – on the other hand, his existing revelations were instructive enough. He introduced glow discharge into pure nickel dust (no LiAlH4 used) heated under low pressure atmosphere of pure hydrogen – this is enough for to start with replications. We already know, that A.Rossi does the same with thin nickel wires (Quark-X reactor). The people who are calling for Me356 return will not do any replications anyway and without replications the progress will stop in this way or another.

    • Goodrice

      >We already know, that A.Rossi does the same with thin nickel wires (Quark-X reactor)

      Already know from what??

      • Zephir

        Quark X was claimed to be a very thin device (thinner than pencil). It couldn’t utilize the dust samples, after then. Maybe it utilized some wire coated with dust for increasing the surface area – but I doubt it.

        • Goodrice

          The information available is quite vague. The QuarkX may as well be something akin to a gas discharge lamp, for example.

          • Zephir

            Of course – and how else it should work? Why it should run in more complex way? Just use the Occam razor criterion and a good sense.

          • Bob Greenyer

            Xenon and deuterium, applied dielectric barrier discharge/electrostatic field, and tuned microwaves would be sufficient.

          • Zephir

            I did talk about construction, not the physical mechanism. The Me356 reactor is also just a discharge lamp in its principle.

          • Bob Greenyer

            Well – I do not specifically know what me356 has, so I can only speculate, but my speculation would not be far off yours.

  • Zephir

    More info from Me356 would be indeed welcomed – on the other hand, his existing revelations were instructive enough. He introduced glow discharge into pure nickel dust (no LiAlH4 used) heated under low pressure atmosphere of pure hydrogen – this is enough for to start with replications. We already know, that A.Rossi does the same with thin nickel wires (Quark-X reactor). The people who are calling for Me356 return will not do any replications anyway and without replications the progress will stop in this way or another.

    • Goodrice

      >We already know, that A.Rossi does the same with thin nickel wires (Quark-X reactor)

      Already know from what??

      • Zephir

        Quark X was claimed to be a very thin device (thinner than pencil). It couldn’t utilize the dust samples, after then. Maybe it utilized some wire coated with dust for increasing the surface area – but I doubt it.

        • Goodrice

          The information available is quite vague. The QuarkX may as well be something akin to a gas discharge lamp, for example.

          • Zephir

            Of course – and how else it should work? Why it should run in more complex way? Just use the Occam razor criterion and a good sense.

          • Bob Greenyer

            Xenon and deuterium, applied dielectric barrier discharge/electrostatic field, and tuned microwaves would be sufficient.

          • Zephir

            I did talk about construction, not the physical mechanism. The Me356 reactor is also just a discharge lamp in its principle.

          • Bob Greenyer

            Well – I do not specifically know what me356 has, so I can only speculate, but my speculation would not be far off yours.